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WeakTuna
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada71 Posts
June 29 2009 15:32 GMT
#81
I always wondered why does player with big "name", such has reckrul, artosis etc never get temp ban ( or maybe they are some time, but i never saw it). It's that i dont find their post funny or anything, but some time i think they turn some post in huge drama storry and find it sad (funny but sad) And btw Happy birthday reckrul.
taurum
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany43 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 15:34:47
June 29 2009 15:34 GMT
#82
Sad, sad, sad ....Hey Strelok, u are our WCG Champion ! Be a man and replay that game. I can understand your anger, but be above of that unprofessional decision making. Its bad for SC, its bad for valor and its bad for u, because u are definitely capable of winning this tournament.

Furthermore publish that replay and make a poll, so the community can decide which one of the decisions were right !
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
June 29 2009 15:34 GMT
#83
On June 30 2009 00:32 WeakTuna wrote:
such has reckrul, artosis etc never get temp ban


Are Rekrul and Artosis in the same category?
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
June 29 2009 15:36 GMT
#84
On June 30 2009 00:15 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Facts:
1. It was bad for the admins to make a decision and go back on it.
2. Strelok can justifiably by upset about that.
3. Fenix AND strelok should not have lost because of this.
3a. This means that Fenix deserved the regame as a close game -> disconnect should never be awarded a win in tourney play AND strelok should be man enough/have a cool head to accept a shitty decision WHICH MEANS he recovers from admins flipping a decision.
4. Artosis made the right decision to have them replay game 2.


whoohoo! can't argue with facts.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
June 29 2009 15:38 GMT
#85
On June 30 2009 00:34 taurum wrote:
Sad, sad, sad ....Hey Strelok, u are our WCG Champion ! Be a man and replay that game. I can understand your anger, but be above of that unprofessional decision making. Its bad for SC, its bad for valor and its bad for u, because u are definitely capable of winning this tournament.

Furthermore publish that replay and make a poll, so the community can decide which one of the decisions were right !



our? uh? what your from germany yes? last i checked strelok wasnt.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
June 29 2009 15:40 GMT
#86
On June 30 2009 00:38 StorZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 00:34 taurum wrote:
Sad, sad, sad ....Hey Strelok, u are our WCG Champion ! Be a man and replay that game. I can understand your anger, but be above of that unprofessional decision making. Its bad for SC, its bad for valor and its bad for u, because u are definitely capable of winning this tournament.

Furthermore publish that replay and make a poll, so the community can decide which one of the decisions were right !



our? uh? what your from germany yes? last i checked strelok wasnt.


OMG ur such a genius!! :D

This post made my day,even better than the whole thread hahahah
taurum
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany43 Posts
June 29 2009 15:42 GMT
#87
the korean wcg winners just doesn´t count ?!? ^^
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 17:11:05
June 29 2009 15:45 GMT
#88
On June 30 2009 00:15 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Facts:
...
4. Artosis made the right decision to have them replay game 2.

I love it when someone lists their own opinion as a fact... It almost makes them sound reasonable.

------

People must have missed it when strelok said that he would have accepted 0-1 if that had been the decision in the first place.

Also, 1 week (really?) of training for a tourney and then all your time spent goes to the toilet when the admins change their decision... I guess Strelok's time must not be worth much to you guys!

ps. oh shit rekrul drama inserted into thread, AND he whines about strelok adding drama to the issue... world explodes
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
-StrifeX-
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States529 Posts
June 29 2009 15:46 GMT
#89
On June 30 2009 00:32 WeakTuna wrote:
I always wondered why does player with big "name", such has reckrul, artosis etc never get temp ban ( or maybe they are some time, but i never saw it). It's that i dont find their post funny or anything, but some time i think they turn some post in huge drama storry and find it sad (funny but sad) And btw Happy birthday reckrul.


All the big names rarely get banned. It's an admin decision. I also believe rekrul might still be an admin. I know he was at one time.
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
June 29 2009 15:47 GMT
#90
Guys, you are messing different things.

If the game 2 was really very close, it should be replayed.
If the Lipton behaved bad as a judge, he should be banned as a judge for the rest of the tournament.

We should be fair to Fenix, and so the game should be replayed.
We should be fair to Strelok, and so Lipton should be banned as a judge.

Strelok, you shouldn't ask to return to the first decision, because it was unfair decision. However you can ask to ban Lipton as a judge, you have all the rights to ask for this satisfaction.

Lipton as a real man should give to Strelok such satisfaction, and Strelok as a real man should accept it and replay the game 2.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
June 29 2009 15:50 GMT
#91
On June 30 2009 00:47 Bifur wrote:
If the Lipton behaved bad as a judge, he should be banned as a judge for the rest of the tournament.


Lol! Lipton created the tournament (with SDM and Tasteless)!
jeddus
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States832 Posts
June 29 2009 15:53 GMT
#92
On June 30 2009 00:32 WeakTuna wrote:
I always wondered why does player with big "name", such has reckrul, artosis etc never get temp ban ( or maybe they are some time, but i never saw it). It's that i dont find their post funny or anything, but some time i think they turn some post in huge drama storry and find it sad (funny but sad) And btw Happy birthday reckrul.



They aren't going to temp-ban him on his birthday.

Besides, he's THE man.
sex appeal
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 29 2009 15:56 GMT
#93
On June 30 2009 00:47 Bifur wrote:
If the game 2 was really very close, it should be replayed.
If the Lipton behaved bad as a judge, he should be banned as a judge for the rest of the tournament.
.

TSL never had these problems! ~sticks nose in the air like asshole~
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 29 2009 15:56 GMT
#94
we still love you Strelok
You're still my favorite terran, you will win some other tourneys soon
Cheers
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
June 29 2009 15:57 GMT
#95
On June 30 2009 00:47 Bifur wrote:
Lipton as a real man should give to Strelok such satisfaction, and Strelok as a real man should accept it and replay the game 2.

I would say that making a drama thread on the forum home to Artosis' friends, against Artosis' opinion, is very manly... I would have shat my pants and accepted the hard truth instead of risking public humilliation from Rekrul coming into the thread and making gigantic posts that make all the nerds get wet.
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
June 29 2009 15:57 GMT
#96
On June 30 2009 00:56 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 00:47 Bifur wrote:
If the game 2 was really very close, it should be replayed.
If the Lipton behaved bad as a judge, he should be banned as a judge for the rest of the tournament.
.

TSL never had these problems! ~sticks nose in the air like asshole~


Not like an asshole, you're correct sir.

Go rekrkekrekrekr
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
June 29 2009 16:00 GMT
#97
Usually Rekrul writes trolling trash but this time he's right.
Decency and the right decision should ALWAYS win.
Strelok acted like a dick.... and still is.

The only information I need is that Strelok was offered 1-1 and took it. Any respectable player would have declined immediately and asked for a re-game.
Now he's bitching about the right decision? Grow some balls.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 16:04:30
June 29 2009 16:03 GMT
#98
Why would they get banned for telling the truth?

I have to say Artosis very clearly defended the change in rulings and there was no valid counter argument by Strelok.

How would Strelok feel if the situation was reversed?
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 16:21:23
June 29 2009 16:15 GMT
#99
That Lipton and Daniel Lee would both decide that the alternative to letting a disconnect decide game two should be a replay of the entire series is mind-bogglingly stupid. It doesn't take "experience as an admin" or StarCraft knowledge to realize that such a decision is moronic -- just common sense.

Strelok has a right to withdraw from the tournament and of course he was wronged by Lipton's wishy-washyness, but letting such a decision stand would have been unacceptable. And as other posters are pointing out, the manner thing to do would have been to refuse the 1-1 and ask for a replay of game 2 right off.

However, let's keep in mind that it's the job of tournament administrators to avoid situations in which players must act against their own interests for a fair solution to be reached.
✌
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
June 29 2009 16:20 GMT
#100
Imho not only the admins are supposed to behave professionally but also the players. I find it highly unprofessional to try to get a freewin and then leave crying when it doesn't work. I have nothing against strelok personally but this post also seems like it was made to get people on his side without telling them the truth (because if they knew it they wouldn't agree with him) and that is also very unprofessional and childish.
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