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HYPE: Idra vs Mondragon Bo5 22nd of June 21:00 CET - Page 38

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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 22 2009 21:10 GMT
#741
Skyhigh was playing 2nd and 3rd game, true story.
GGs anyway! Greg fighting~
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
June 22 2009 21:10 GMT
#742
VODs?
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
June 22 2009 21:10 GMT
#743
On June 23 2009 06:09 AtlaS wrote:
I still don't understand how the first game even happened after seeing the next 2. was Idra eating a hotpocket for the first 10 minutes?


I hope Idra come's in here and sais "I was on the phone with Tasteless guiding him trough some moves on SF4"
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 22 2009 21:11 GMT
#744
On June 23 2009 06:09 Holgerius wrote:
Lol at that video! :D

Will people ever stop questioning Idra's skills?


Once he starts owning B-teamers. :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
aeonshifter
Profile Joined April 2009
United States123 Posts
June 22 2009 21:11 GMT
#745
On June 23 2009 06:10 Itachii wrote:
Skyhigh was playing 2nd and 3rd game, true story.
GGs anyway! Greg fighting~


I believe it.
iMate
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada263 Posts
June 22 2009 21:12 GMT
#746
where can i watch the replays or vid of this game?
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
June 22 2009 21:12 GMT
#747
On June 23 2009 06:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2009 05:59 infinity2k9 wrote:
On June 23 2009 05:56 Lobbo wrote:
This just in, Idra has improved.


the first game wasn't impressive at all and the second no any skill was even shown, hardly enough play to show any improvement

This game didn't show improvement at all either, huh?
All he did was mass and move out, it wasn't like he played intelligently or anything.
/sarcasm


an improvement on what? unless we are talking over a long period of time, didn't seem any better than other recent games. the defence of the drop in the 3rd game was good but i wouldnt call much of it 'intelligent play' it was just 100% standard
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
June 22 2009 21:13 GMT
#748
On June 23 2009 06:12 iMate wrote:
where can i watch the replays or vid of this game?

They always posts the games on ESL after a while so just wait or hang on GG.net.
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
June 22 2009 21:14 GMT
#749
On June 23 2009 06:12 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2009 06:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 23 2009 05:59 infinity2k9 wrote:
On June 23 2009 05:56 Lobbo wrote:
This just in, Idra has improved.


the first game wasn't impressive at all and the second no any skill was even shown, hardly enough play to show any improvement

This game didn't show improvement at all either, huh?
All he did was mass and move out, it wasn't like he played intelligently or anything.
/sarcasm


an improvement on what? unless we are talking over a long period of time, didn't seem any better than other recent games. the defence of the drop in the 3rd game was good but i wouldnt call much of it 'intelligent play' it was just 100% standard

Yeah he has improved he's standard game to just move out and win.
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
June 22 2009 21:15 GMT
#750
On June 23 2009 06:07 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
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On June 23 2009 06:03 Kennigit wrote:
These german commentators sure are impartial and not biased at all no not one little bit!


do you even understand german? theyre kinda rooting for idra but hey, you know best


do you even understand german? they kinda said idra has no inspiration, no innovation and sucks pretty bad considering he's been in korea for so long but hey, you know best
@riotsnowbird
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
June 22 2009 21:21 GMT
#751
On June 23 2009 06:12 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2009 06:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 23 2009 05:59 infinity2k9 wrote:
On June 23 2009 05:56 Lobbo wrote:
This just in, Idra has improved.


the first game wasn't impressive at all and the second no any skill was even shown, hardly enough play to show any improvement

This game didn't show improvement at all either, huh?
All he did was mass and move out, it wasn't like he played intelligently or anything.
/sarcasm


an improvement on what? unless we are talking over a long period of time, didn't seem any better than other recent games. the defence of the drop in the 3rd game was good but i wouldnt call much of it 'intelligent play' it was just 100% standard



wtf wud you want him to do...

MECH????
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Dreadwave
Profile Joined January 2008
Netherlands254 Posts
June 22 2009 21:22 GMT
#752
On June 23 2009 06:07 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2009 06:06 Shivaz wrote:
On June 23 2009 06:05 SuperArc wrote:
kinda reminded me of Nada vs Jangbi, lol


You mean the first game where Nada destroyed Jangbi right?


I mean the series, yeah.
First game, brilliant play from the underdog.

The rest, the favourite owns.

I don't think the first game was that good for mondragon actually, he did make lots of effective attacks but he sacrificed a lot of economy to do so. His drone count was pretty low and he kept losing bases, his 3rd gasses never lasted long.

I'm not saying he played bad but each one of those swarm pushes was intended to end the game and they didn't really do that, IdrA defended them pretty well while keeping his army roaming the map.

Trading armies is a lot worse for Zerg than for Terran especially if Zerg is on equal bases which they were most of the time.
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
June 22 2009 21:33 GMT
#753
On June 23 2009 06:15 snowbird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2009 06:07 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
On June 23 2009 06:03 Kennigit wrote:
These german commentators sure are impartial and not biased at all no not one little bit!


do you even understand german? theyre kinda rooting for idra but hey, you know best


do you even understand german? they kinda said idra has no inspiration, no innovation and sucks pretty bad considering he's been in korea for so long but hey, you know best


i didnt listen the whole time because i often mute them due to their knowledge of starcraft. but in game 3 they were talking about mondi trying abusive strats to counter idras far superiour mechanics and timings. i think you should try to look up my location and then continue bullshitting.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
June 22 2009 21:37 GMT
#754
lazy to read through 38 pages, what are the results?
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Dreadwave
Profile Joined January 2008
Netherlands254 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-22 21:42:11
June 22 2009 21:39 GMT
#755
On June 23 2009 06:37 alffla wrote:
lazy to read through 38 pages, what are the results?

+ Show Spoiler +
IdrA wins 3-0.
Ret wins 3-1(not sure about score).
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3351 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-22 21:40:50
June 22 2009 21:40 GMT
#756
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Ret 3-1 Dinot
Idra 3-0 Mondragon
김택용 Fighting!
FlyingDJ
Profile Joined April 2008
Germany153 Posts
June 22 2009 21:57 GMT
#757
I never said IdrA has no talent because it couldn't be further from the truth. All I said was that for someone who has been in Korea for that long playing StarCraft full time, the difference between a good and a great player is talent. He's still easily one of the best non-Koreans at the moment which he showed especially in the 2nd and 3rd game.
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
June 22 2009 22:02 GMT
#758
GO MONDI!11!!!!!1!
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
groro
Profile Joined March 2009
67 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-22 22:08:36
June 22 2009 22:03 GMT
#759
On June 23 2009 06:33 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2009 06:15 snowbird wrote:
On June 23 2009 06:07 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
On June 23 2009 06:03 Kennigit wrote:
These german commentators sure are impartial and not biased at all no not one little bit!


do you even understand german? theyre kinda rooting for idra but hey, you know best


do you even understand german? they kinda said idra has no inspiration, no innovation and sucks pretty bad considering he's been in korea for so long but hey, you know best


i didnt listen the whole time because i often mute them due to their knowledge of starcraft. but in game 3 they were talking about mondi trying abusive strats to counter idras far superiour mechanics and timings. i think you should try to look up my location and then continue bullshitting.


well the commentary wasn`t absolute unbiased but agree that you should be aware that you can`t rely just on forum postings to fully judge them because they are selective, summarized towards the negativity and come of twice as harsh as if you can understand them discussing back and forth. one of them started some discussion about possible missing brilliance and talent(meant as cream on the top and not as that "you suck pretty bad" if you dont got it) to overwhelm the koreans he is training with and that this beeing also discussed in forums. but they also said things like "but you gotta handed to him he played very good here" and stuff like mentioned.

ggs and gratz to idra. i think he played very good and deserved the win.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
June 22 2009 22:23 GMT
#760
I wanted drama! : (
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