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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-20 07:15:45
May 20 2009 07:14 GMT
#1
Hopes and Dreams:

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Previous articles have discussed the fundamental problems concerning E-sports itself and the governing bodies which dictate its behaviour as a whole. However, there hasn't been a wide-spread discussion in relation to (selected) dream scenarios as a domestic/foreign community. Those wishes that may never be granted (or already have been) , but which fill the hearts of the overseas (and Korean) fans with pride, hope and sometimes even amusement.

~ Bringing back the Heroes. ~

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~ JulyZerg - a return to form or simply good timing? ~

When JulyZerg (STX Soul's Park Seungjoon.) steam-rollered over Do Jaewook (BeSt of SKT1.) in a demolishing charge during the finals of the EVER OSL one of these dreams was realised for a wide spectrum of fans within Korea and watching from afar.

JulyZerg is a long-standing figure in the progaming scene. He has won five major titles
(iTV, Gillette, KT-KTF, IOPS, EVER 2005 and EVER 2008.) and his influence upon the way Zerg is used as a race in the current gaming climate is undeniable. He's been through his fair share of drama and changes including three transfers in recent memory Now he has finally joined STX Soul where he has settled in amidst a flurry of young players and fellow veterans like Jin Yeongsu aka. Hwasin.

The queue for the EVER OSL finals had to be seen to be believed. It stretched all the way around the central Seoul venue of SETEC (a massive convention centre and arena.) This stage was truly befitting of such a potentially glorious come-back for a much-loved player whose progress had been as subdued as several others of his caliber and vintage for a significant time before he climbed the ranks of the EVER qualifications. SETEC provided the platform for his return in a way the Incruit OSL's COEX hall failed to hail Stork's (Song Byungoo) eventual OSL gold success.

Older fans mingled with teenagers and the support for Do Jaewook paled in comparison to the overwhelming enthusiasm (and noise.) of the fervent STX Soul fans who turned out in their droves to cheer him on to a decisive victory.

Regardless of how individual games could be debated and brackets deemed a breeze for certain experienced players such as JulyZerg it is hard to argue with the fact that seeing a classic name rise from the ashes to claim yet another title (as well as the coveted Golden Mouse.) brought the Esports scene to a stand still out of respect and in many cases, surprise.

As fun as it can be to root for dominant forces within Korean StarCraft such as current kings of the scene Lee Jaedong (Jaedong) Kim Taekyong (Bisu.) and Lee Youngho (Flash.) Those who have been involved in the Korean esports scene since its inception cannot help, but feel a special warmth towards certain veteran players who have continued to game when others might have graduated on to commentating (such as TheMarine or Garimto.) or begun their mandatory military service.

For these fans (and they are not slim in numbers upon either side of the pond.) the chance to see their older favourites revitalise themselves and claim another title is a compelling thought. For example the pure fervor of Lim Yohwan's devotees when he returned to the SKT1 fold and resumed his daily life as a progamer was nothing short of overwhelming. His performance (and that of the squad over all.) might have been lacking during his stint with AirForce ACE. However, nothing seemed capable of denting the loyalty felt by those who witnessed Boxer at his peak and those who have since begun to look back at the vast shadow he has cast over the world of StarCraft.

Ma Jaeyoon (SaviOr) is another player who both needs no introduction and also perfectly illustrates an example of this long-standing community based purely upon faith (despite what hard results might suggest.) Famously, the Maestro was toppled from his throne by Kim Taekyong (Bisu.) who heralded the era of Taekbang along with fellow Protoss Song Byungoo. Despite his struggles to overcome extroverted rival Lee Sungeun (Firebathero.) and his lacklustre proleague and individual standings he still draws a crowd only rivaled by that of the Emperor himself.

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~ SaviOr: We still believe. ~

Korean fans still believe and within the foreign community, Jaeyoon's statement about 'Destroying everyone in 2009.' has become a slogan, a catchphrase and a mantra for all those who still play, watch and learn under his banner.

The idea of seeing a veteran once again reclaim their former glories appears to hold the same coveted position as that of watching a fresh hot-shot unexpectedly tearing down the competition.

~ A little More Conversation. ~

The communities within both parts of the world seem to be divided over the issue of how to fundamentally approach the way in which live events are run. There are those who long for the days when players cried with happiness when they clasped an important victory, hung their heads low when everything went wrong and even engaged in some of the most random and comical behaviour seen on the MBC and OGN channels.

Elements of these times still remain and some have been improved upon for the fans who enjoy the spectacle and experience of attending live StarCraft. The mascots of KTF and SKT1, the ceremonies wheel and the competitions to win prizes which are becoming more and more frequent in relation to teams such as Hwaseung OZ.

Others have been restricted to the point where controversy arises and the whole business of professional gaming in Korea appears to be just that, business and commerce without heart or passion. In game chat, mistakes when typing and the ceremony restrictions have caused uproar which implies that the majority of fans are longing for a bygone era in gaming.

~ R.E.S.P.E.C.T ~

StarCraft is an esport and a community largely dominated by men. There have been women's leagues during the past, but due to a lack of interest and a general lack of female gamers willing to throw away everything to compete they eventually found themselves lumbered with cancellation.

A single woman remains as the lone figure of female (StarCraft) progaming, Seo Jisoo (ToSsgirl.) of STX Soul. Some may argue that she has no place in the progaming scene, but unfortunately her role is largely defined by two basic aspects; her gender and her perceived attractiveness. Pigeon-holed by the very company she works for, Jisoo is now regarded as not only a player with no chance to advance beyond the ranks of the middling male progamers, but also as so-called 'eye-candy.' Dressed in mini skirts and tight fitting tops she fulfills the same role as the Star League booth girls.

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~ ToSsgirl waits for her turn at GOM TV. ~

However, there is a vital difference - her function within StarCraft *should* be that of a player - someone who is there to entertain at the same time she participates and strives for victories. The boothgirls upon the other hand are there as decoration and (unlike several other Esports which use women as a marketing tool.) they serve no other purpose.

ToSsgirl has recently been announced as a member of the 'Old Stars' tournament at the impending EStars in Seoul event. When placed next to such legendary names as Kangmin (Nal_ra) and Choi Yeongseung (Iloveoov) a significant amount of fans asked the question 'Why is she regarded as a star?' (let alone one of similar calibre as the others gathered for the event.)

Yes, she is the most competant female gamer of her time, having been dominant in her respective women's leagues. However, how many people actually remember this when she is constantly paraded around in visually appealing clothing and trotted out to do more promotional work that she ever does actual gaming?

This is not to say that her image should be with-held in its entirety. However, there doesn't seem to be (as with many elements of Korean progaming.) a balance between illustrating a positive ideal of female gamers for other women to aspire to and simply marketing her as the 'sexy' aspect of the team and nothing more.

Maybe, StarCraft needs to pay more attention to other increasingly visible Esports such as Dungeon & Fighter League which hosts more female gamers (such as the second-in-command of the team 20:3) since its fourth season than ever before and FPS gaming where women gamers are mandatory additions during Special Force Leagues and do not have to rely upon skimpy clothing for live events. The system might do itself and the spirits of those women gamers who look up to their professional counterparts if it stopped looking for 'pretty' or 'bankable.' and started seeking out 'talent' and 'motivation' instead.


~ Coming out of the Closet. ~


This issue mainly affects the foreign community. However, even for those living within Korea it can pose an annoying and tedious barrier as well. It's an idea that has been raised time and time again by forums and individuals; the lack of access to merchandise.

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~ Lee Jaedong advertises shoes worn by the Hwaseung team at Winners League. ~

Teams including CJ Entus are slowly cottoning on to the outside demand for progaming clothing, equipment and general merchandise. However, the vast majority of fans still have to get their goods via the third party access of a Korean connection.

Emulating ones heroes or simply demonstrating casual allegiance has never been so difficult.

The only team with a physical shop is that of MBC Heroes (which is located in the horrific design disaster that is LOOX.) Unfortunately due to under-staffing it is closed more often than it is ever open at this current time. The only other channels through which to aquire merchandise are by utilising the seasonal sales posted upon Korean gaming site Fomos (most of which require the wiring of currency and a Korean bank account.)

This presents a depressing dilemma for fans everywhere. None more so than those who have no access to the Korean social security numbers required to register upon the team sites or those who cannot journey to the Hero Centre in person.

The situation appears to be changing little by little - with the opening of the CJ online shop and the generous actions of various Korean fans who have set aside their own time and money to provide this much desired method to purchase Korean goods. Also eSTRO now hosts an English language sign up section for their official site which is another step in the right direction when it comes to bridging the divisions between the two communities and the teams themselves.

~ The Future? ~

Will women gamers ever recieve as much respect as their male counterparts?

Can foreign fans bridge the gap between Korea and themselves?

Who (if anyone) will make a return in 2010?

Will Scaramanga ever get himself a KTF t-shirt?

These and many other questions can only, truly be answered by the passage of time. Esports governing body Kespa ultimately holds the reins to professional StarCraft, but it is the fervor of the fans, the netizens influence and the players themselves who can, in their own various ways change the face of Esports forever.

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Just to round off the article, here's a little question for anyone who wants to answer it;

Question:

What changes/hopes/wishes do you hold for StarCraft (and esports in general.) in the future?
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
orangeshines
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom202 Posts
May 20 2009 07:20 GMT
#2
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-20 07:28:19
May 20 2009 07:25 GMT
#3
Q: What changes/hopes/wishes do you hold for StarCraft (and esports in general.) in the future?
A: Abolishment of KeSpA, 10 more osl titles for july and 2 msls, bisu in massive slump.

Edit: ty for article!!
OMG you nasty gurl
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-20 07:34:25
May 20 2009 07:31 GMT
#4
Very interesting read, although I want to point to a few things -
Shouldn't it be SITEX? That's what I remember the site being called iirc. Not 100% Sure.

Also, the Bisu-Stork era should be 'Taek-beng' (no idea why they call it that way though) instead of 'Taek-bang'.

Great pics of Savior and Tossgirl there. I agree that STX SouL is doing too little to help Tossgirl to perform in the field of gameplay, instead using her more as a promotional figure/model. It's a wonder how she finds that will to continue gaming, despite her team totally ignoring her original purpose.

Oh, and what I hope to see:
KeSPA doing what is right, not what is written.
Overseas promotion of e-Sports
Rise of Savior

And also @ this:
Can foreign fans bridge the gap between Korea and themselves?

I believe in 'yes'. Compared to just a few years ago, the interaction between the foreign fans and the players/teams have significantly become closer. Foreign fanbases are letting themselves known that they are there, regardless of how far they are, to support for their favourite players.
POGGERS
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
May 20 2009 07:39 GMT
#5
Nice article, liked the first part best.
Peace~
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
May 20 2009 07:40 GMT
#6
Here's crossing my fingers to seeing a women truly break through into the professional scene, legitimately...
but I have a hard time seeing that - women simply aren't drawn to playing starcraft as men are - to them, it's more about watching the players be damned attractive - thus leaving the pool of people that play the game smaller, leaving a smaller chance that a great player will exist in this pool...etcetc. It would take a lot for a girl to really break through, but it would be pretty awesome if the sex-barrier could be broken down.

Great read though . It'll be interesting to see the direction SC takes in the next year or so!
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
May 20 2009 07:40 GMT
#7
Woot July we miss you in PL buddy hope you make it in to the next OSL as always . Nice article thank you .
FastEddieV
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States614 Posts
May 20 2009 07:43 GMT
#8
That's a great picture of JulyZerg! I'm a big fan of this article and your work in general, NeverGG. Thanks for this writeup!
platinum? more like leaf
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
May 20 2009 07:44 GMT
#9
speaking of which, when is that Old Star tournament going to be? I remember it's going to be like around June/July or something?
blabberrrrr
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
May 20 2009 07:53 GMT
#10
There's one way of getting more old favorites to play in more high profile games. Give all past champions of a each starleague automatic entry into the Ro32/36. Sure it's a tad unfair to everyone else, but winner's privilege, and will lead to more highly anticipated games, rather than fan-favorites losing in a crapshoot some offline qualifier to a noname player. (Even if a player has a 70% winrate, the chances are surprisingly low to actually qualify, so it truly is a crapshoot.)
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
orangeshines
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom202 Posts
May 20 2009 08:06 GMT
#11
On May 20 2009 16:53 Zona wrote:
There's one way of getting more old favorites to play in more high profile games. Give all past champions of a each starleague automatic entry into the Ro32/36. Sure it's a tad unfair to everyone else, but winner's privilege, and will lead to more highly anticipated games, rather than fan-favorites losing in a crapshoot some offline qualifier to a noname player. (Even if a player has a 70% winrate, the chances are surprisingly low to actually qualify, so it truly is a crapshoot.)


This must be the BEST IDEEA EVER i think
ssystem
Profile Joined August 2008
United Kingdom337 Posts
May 20 2009 08:16 GMT
#12
On May 20 2009 16:53 Zona wrote:
There's one way of getting more old favorites to play in more high profile games. Give all past champions of a each starleague automatic entry into the Ro32/36. Sure it's a tad unfair to everyone else, but winner's privilege, and will lead to more highly anticipated games, rather than fan-favorites losing in a crapshoot some offline qualifier to a noname player. (Even if a player has a 70% winrate, the chances are surprisingly low to actually qualify, so it truly is a crapshoot.)

All all title holders are also automatically seeded into a Ro16 where the winner plays the winner of the 'showcase starleague'. Also the winner of the seeds starts with a 2-0 advantage and the other player only gets half a win each time.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
May 20 2009 08:18 GMT
#13
as always thanks for writing an insider article for you to share with us.

however, could you or someone else be kind enough to explain this part?

However, there hasn't been a wide-spread discussion in relation to (selected) dream scenarios as a domestic/foreign community.


I don't get this part at all, and i'm assuming it's the whole point of the article.
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
May 20 2009 08:32 GMT
#14
On May 20 2009 17:18 broz0rs wrote:
as always thanks for writing an insider article for you to share with us.

however, could you or someone else be kind enough to explain this part?

Show nested quote +
However, there hasn't been a wide-spread discussion in relation to (selected) dream scenarios as a domestic/foreign community.


I don't get this part at all, and i'm assuming it's the whole point of the article.


@Konadora - no it's on the official map for the place itself spelt 'SETEC.' Also it's been romanized both ways - so I picked the more visually appealing one.

@broz0rs;

Um....I'm not really sure where your confusion is stemming from - the whole basis of the article is - good things that could happen for the Korean SC scene (for both foreign and Korean fans/players.) I can't put it more simply than that. Also a slight discussion of the problems (but I covered that a lot in my last article.)
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
May 20 2009 09:36 GMT
#15
What are you advocating in the section about tossgirl?
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DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 20 2009 10:04 GMT
#16
Nice read
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-20 11:36:35
May 20 2009 11:36 GMT
#17
Nice write-up!

Needs more Nada though =). Btw, Savior won't destroy anyone in 2009 imo
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 20 2009 12:00 GMT
#18
Awesome article!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-20 12:37:29
May 20 2009 12:36 GMT
#19
The question is simple with tossgirl: she doesn't win but has fame far beyond her abilities simply because she is a woman. How is this fair for the legions of male progamers stuck in the middle ranks with her, who can't gain fame by being marketed as female?

I fail to see how that equates with a "lack of respect" for female gamers, which is simply a feminist trope that is trotted out without regard for the situation; in fact, it inverts the situation. For tossgirl, if she and her managers didn't play up her looks, why would anyone pay any attention to her at all when her win rate is abysmal?
I will eat you alive
Spanxxx
Profile Joined February 2009
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-20 13:20:31
May 20 2009 13:17 GMT
#20
I hope sc bw stays alive even when Sc2 comes along. Sc2 is a totally different game in my opinion, so hopefully there is no conversion to it.

A dream of mine would be to get any kind of skt1 memorabilia, especially a team shirt and jacket. I also wish to be able to fly to Korea and see a live match.

I hope to see Savior take at least 1 more title before he retires. I hope Bisu keeps on dominating aswell. I hope Best returns to form and I hope to see Boxer get back to winning some games.

I hope fbh continues to lose to the point of getting demoted to b-team.
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