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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 01 2009 20:39 GMT
#521
On December 01 2009 23:28 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 23:25 Armathai wrote:
Thanks for the guide, i had super trouble trying to set it up with Camtasia 5 and finally went and found a copy of 4. No problems after that, except that one of your screens for FMLE shows bitrate for 650 which is beyond what unverified users can use. However after solving these small issues its all working great! Thanks a bunch.


Yeah, when I made the guide livestream had no max bitrate.

Which is a crying shame, cause viewers are really missing out on some really good quality 2000k streams. It's a pity I can only go up to 500 kbps.

And it's 500 kbps whether you're verified or not. Only premium users can go above.
God Bless
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 01 2009 20:52 GMT
#522
On November 29 2009 22:08 gorchiza wrote:
thanx for the wonderful thread !!!
I made all the things and everything is working.

But i have one question. The stream is great in the site but its a little bit laggy in the game and i am not sure that in iccup it will be good if there is lag for me. Which setting i should lower to improve the quality of play int he game ? Thanks in advance !

You should just set starcraft and camtasia recorder to high priority in task manager. You need more than 1 core to run flash media live encoder. At least that's my experience. I use a Core 2 Duo.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
December 05 2009 05:32 GMT
#523
On December 02 2009 05:52 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2009 22:08 gorchiza wrote:
thanx for the wonderful thread !!!
I made all the things and everything is working.

But i have one question. The stream is great in the site but its a little bit laggy in the game and i am not sure that in iccup it will be good if there is lag for me. Which setting i should lower to improve the quality of play int he game ? Thanks in advance !

You should just set starcraft and camtasia recorder to high priority in task manager. You need more than 1 core to run flash media live encoder. At least that's my experience. I use a Core 2 Duo.


Sorry, but this a noob question about computers.

I have a Core 2 Duo as well, but do I have to manually set the Media Live Encoder to run on one core and Starcraft on the other? Or does the computer set that automatically?

I have no idea what I'm doing wrong because I lag like crazy whenever I start running my LS session. Basically, Starcraft is unplayable.

Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
December 05 2009 05:42 GMT
#524
On December 05 2009 14:32 Amnesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2009 05:52 T.O.P. wrote:
On November 29 2009 22:08 gorchiza wrote:
thanx for the wonderful thread !!!
I made all the things and everything is working.

But i have one question. The stream is great in the site but its a little bit laggy in the game and i am not sure that in iccup it will be good if there is lag for me. Which setting i should lower to improve the quality of play int he game ? Thanks in advance !

You should just set starcraft and camtasia recorder to high priority in task manager. You need more than 1 core to run flash media live encoder. At least that's my experience. I use a Core 2 Duo.


Sorry, but this a noob question about computers.

I have a Core 2 Duo as well, but do I have to manually set the Media Live Encoder to run on one core and Starcraft on the other? Or does the computer set that automatically?

I have no idea what I'm doing wrong because I lag like crazy whenever I start running my LS session. Basically, Starcraft is unplayable.


I would not recommend assigning cores if you don't know what you're doing. It's efficient enough to just let your computer assign cores. If you're getting lag in Starcraft, up its priority only, and shut down everything save for FMLE, Camtasia, and SC. This includes all background processes. If it's still lagging... You need a better computer.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 09:43:26
December 05 2009 09:38 GMT
#525
You don't want to assign FMLE above on the priority of sc becuase i guarantee you that FMLE is coded properly and will take every bit of your computing power to encode and sc wont run.
What you want to do if put sc on High and FMLE on Above Normal in terms of affinity. But overall quality wont change as you can't really modify the important values in their encoder, 500kbps at 480x360 is actually more then enough quality if we are talking about a proper encoding instead of a live encode.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
December 05 2009 10:04 GMT
#526
In my opinion, you should not touch the priorities of FMLE. You should set starcraft.exe to high priority and let FMLE do it's thing. FMLE should use the rest of the cpu power that you have.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
puzuzu
Profile Joined October 2009
Latvia11 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 12:58:38
December 05 2009 10:54 GMT
#527
Problem < everything worked fine when i had stupid vista just installed win7 and now i cant fix my colors. ;( any suggestions or ideas why is it like that?

nvm fixed it by myself ;D i put Copatability on windows vista and it works fine now
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
December 06 2009 23:26 GMT
#528
Guys what you think are the best bitrate settings for somebody with 1MB upload?


I have been using 248kbps, 200 video and 48 mono audio for 560x420 output size.

the problem is that if i setup more than 48 in audio the audio lags, and if I put more video I am not sure but people with not good connection get lag even though people with DSL higher than 5MB see it perfectly.
I won
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 06 2009 23:32 GMT
#529
On December 07 2009 08:26 RaptorX wrote:
Guys what you think are the best bitrate settings for somebody with 1MB upload?


I have been using 248kbps, 200 video and 48 mono audio for 560x420 output size.

the problem is that if i setup more than 48 in audio the audio lags, and if I put more video I am not sure but people with not good connection get lag even though people with DSL higher than 5MB see it perfectly.

Don't worry about viewers. You have to have terrible internet to not be able to view 248 kbps. Stream at the highest you can stream without lagging. I'd recommend Stereo Audio for Audio cause Mono just sucks.
God Bless
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-07 01:57:05
December 07 2009 01:56 GMT
#530
First time trying to stream here:
I'm trying to stream my desktop- not StarCraft yet, and I've got the resolution in Camtasia/FMLE set to input 1024x768 and output 320x240...
I've set the bitrate to the lowest possible 100kbps just to see if it works... it does, but when I go into livestream and preview the "external feed", it shows a black screen.(not offline, just a black screen)
The same happens when I try to view it from livestream.com/loser777

FMLE shows my desktop in realtime just fine, and its connected to the server and everything (it even says "streaming to primary..."
6581
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 07 2009 01:57 GMT
#531
On December 05 2009 19:54 puzuzu wrote:
Problem < everything worked fine when i had stupid vista just installed win7 and now i cant fix my colors. ;( any suggestions or ideas why is it like that?

nvm fixed it by myself ;D i put Copatability on windows vista and it works fine now

What's fun about the colors if you msg a blizz person you get windows 7 is not supported as the reason and no help for a patch from them.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-07 01:59:44
December 07 2009 01:58 GMT
#532
On December 07 2009 08:26 RaptorX wrote:
Guys what you think are the best bitrate settings for somebody with 1MB upload?


I have been using 248kbps, 200 video and 48 mono audio for 560x420 output size.

the problem is that if i setup more than 48 in audio the audio lags, and if I put more video I am not sure but people with not good connection get lag even though people with DSL higher than 5MB see it perfectly.

Well non premium users are capped at a 500kbp/s stream so really might as well use the whole 500kbp/s it's odd that not even half you're capability would lag your transmission. If the audio lags i'm sure there is some settings to manually increase your buffer to be larger.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
December 07 2009 18:27 GMT
#533
On December 07 2009 10:56 Loser777 wrote:
First time trying to stream here:
I'm trying to stream my desktop- not StarCraft yet, and I've got the resolution in Camtasia/FMLE set to input 1024x768 and output 320x240...
I've set the bitrate to the lowest possible 100kbps just to see if it works... it does, but when I go into livestream and preview the "external feed", it shows a black screen.(not offline, just a black screen)
The same happens when I try to view it from livestream.com/loser777

FMLE shows my desktop in realtime just fine, and its connected to the server and everything (it even says "streaming to primary..."


you filled in your channelname wrong in your FMLE FMS url settings, despite the following warning in the guide:


DO NOT USE TLRAGE AS YOUR CHANNEL NAME


every time you try streaming I get an email in my inbox that some guy is trying to log in to my channel with invalid parameters.

how hard can it be to fill in your own channel name in a url

how can you think having 'tlrage' in your streaming url is correct
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
December 08 2009 11:44 GMT
#534
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 08 2009 03:27 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 10:56 Loser777 wrote:
First time trying to stream here:
I'm trying to stream my desktop- not StarCraft yet, and I've got the resolution in Camtasia/FMLE set to input 1024x768 and output 320x240...
I've set the bitrate to the lowest possible 100kbps just to see if it works... it does, but when I go into livestream and preview the "external feed", it shows a black screen.(not offline, just a black screen)
The same happens when I try to view it from livestream.com/loser777

FMLE shows my desktop in realtime just fine, and its connected to the server and everything (it even says "streaming to primary..."


you filled in your channelname wrong in your FMLE FMS url settings, despite the following warning in the guide:


<font size=3>DO NOT USE TLRAGE AS YOUR CHANNEL NAME</font>


every time you try streaming I get an email in my inbox that some guy is trying to log in to my channel with invalid parameters.

how hard can it be to fill in your own channel name in a url

how can you think having 'tlrage' in your streaming url is correct


hahaha, they still fall for that?

why dont you change the OP and where it says tlrage you change it for [your username here] at least THEY will get the email saying that they are trying to stream to an invalid channel. :D


On December 07 2009 08:32 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 08:26 RaptorX wrote:
Guys what you think are the best bitrate settings for somebody with 1MB upload?


I have been using 248kbps, 200 video and 48 mono audio for 560x420 output size.

the problem is that if i setup more than 48 in audio the audio lags, and if I put more video I am not sure but people with not good connection get lag even though people with DSL higher than 5MB see it perfectly.

Don't worry about viewers. You have to have terrible internet to not be able to view 248 kbps. Stream at the highest you can stream without lagging. I'd recommend Stereo Audio for Audio cause Mono just sucks.


I use mono cause if I use Stereo some of the sounds of starcraft are going to be broadcasted and the others are going to be lost... I think thats why some people complain about hearing the Nexus sounds but not the units sounds.

When I make test recordings I have noticed that If i put more than 48kbps for audio the audio stops every x amount of milliseconds...

I won
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
December 08 2009 19:56 GMT
#535
On December 08 2009 20:44 RaptorX wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 08 2009 03:27 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 10:56 Loser777 wrote:
First time trying to stream here:
I'm trying to stream my desktop- not StarCraft yet, and I've got the resolution in Camtasia/FMLE set to input 1024x768 and output 320x240...
I've set the bitrate to the lowest possible 100kbps just to see if it works... it does, but when I go into livestream and preview the "external feed", it shows a black screen.(not offline, just a black screen)
The same happens when I try to view it from livestream.com/loser777

FMLE shows my desktop in realtime just fine, and its connected to the server and everything (it even says "streaming to primary..."


you filled in your channelname wrong in your FMLE FMS url settings, despite the following warning in the guide:


DO NOT USE TLRAGE AS YOUR CHANNEL NAME


every time you try streaming I get an email in my inbox that some guy is trying to log in to my channel with invalid parameters.

how hard can it be to fill in your own channel name in a url

how can you think having 'tlrage' in your streaming url is correct


hahaha, they still fall for that?

why dont you change the OP and where it says tlrage you change it for [your username here] at least THEY will get the email saying that they are trying to stream to an invalid channel. :D


Show nested quote +
On December 07 2009 08:32 Roffles wrote:
On December 07 2009 08:26 RaptorX wrote:
Guys what you think are the best bitrate settings for somebody with 1MB upload?


I have been using 248kbps, 200 video and 48 mono audio for 560x420 output size.

the problem is that if i setup more than 48 in audio the audio lags, and if I put more video I am not sure but people with not good connection get lag even though people with DSL higher than 5MB see it perfectly.

Don't worry about viewers. You have to have terrible internet to not be able to view 248 kbps. Stream at the highest you can stream without lagging. I'd recommend Stereo Audio for Audio cause Mono just sucks.


I use mono cause if I use Stereo some of the sounds of starcraft are going to be broadcasted and the others are going to be lost... I think thats why some people complain about hearing the Nexus sounds but not the units sounds.

When I make test recordings I have noticed that If i put more than 48kbps for audio the audio stops every x amount of milliseconds...


48kbps for audio should be more than enough, especially Mono. If you're having lag issues, I'd recommend lowering the bitrate instead of lifting it
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 11 2009 18:28 GMT
#536
Quite the annoyance. With 5.0.2, the stupid thing is stuck at 320x240
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
December 12 2009 12:52 GMT
#537
On December 12 2009 03:28 Djzapz wrote:
Quite the annoyance. With 5.0.2, the stupid thing is stuck at 320x240


I think i had that problem... you just have to reboot your PC...
I won
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 13 2009 15:01 GMT
#538
So I bought a new headset with with a mic with an USB connection, not the regular cord you stick in your soundcard. So now in AFML there is no option to get the sounds I hear onto the stream, the only option I have is the Microphone for the headset. So is there any way to get what I hear onto the stream without getting a new headset that I plug directly into the soundcard? (Since I kinda destroyed my old headset in a moment of nerdrage during a big loss streak a few days ago lol)
God Hates a Coward
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
December 13 2009 15:10 GMT
#539
On December 14 2009 00:01 Oystein wrote:
So I bought a new headset with with a mic with an USB connection, not the regular cord you stick in your soundcard. So now in AFML there is no option to get the sounds I hear onto the stream, the only option I have is the Microphone for the headset. So is there any way to get what I hear onto the stream without getting a new headset that I plug directly into the soundcard? (Since I kinda destroyed my old headset in a moment of nerdrage during a big loss streak a few days ago lol)


USB Headsets always have a 'built in sound card', and shows up as a seperate device in windows.

Should be easy to mix mic and output with Virtual Audio Cables in this case.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-15 00:15:36
December 14 2009 21:02 GMT
#540
Nvm, I fixed that problem. But my friend tells me there are some major framedrops when watching, any ideas on how to fix that? :x
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