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Pieguy314
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada262 Posts
March 05 2009 06:28 GMT
#41
Isn't Blizzcon coming up soon?
asdfasdf
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
March 05 2009 11:32 GMT
#42
On March 05 2009 13:29 GhostOutlaw wrote:
Side-by-side Action.

Thats how I hope to solve the issue of the games being a sit down sport.

If you need a good example of side by side action or are unsure of what I am actually talking about, watch the new 007 movie Quantum of Solace. The horse race/chase scene and the opera/chase scene are probably some of the most well-done side-by-side action in film. It's rather difficult to get right but when it is done right, it is remarkably compelling.

Sigh, just gave away one of my aces!

Another reason for the large number of interviews, well 2.

1) I know I'm not going to get 50+. So shooting for that and ending up with less but still a viable amount is what I'm looking for.

2) Not to say it up front but I'm more then willing to bet most of the players will have little to no media experience. The mass amount of interviews function almost as a casting call. If I do 50 interviews I would expect to have a few VERY strong characters in there but still not many. Where if I isolate myself to 10 interviews, I may end up with many weak characters and no one with a strong enough interview to really guide the doc.

Am I going to get 50? Probably not. Would it be sweet? Yea, but if I get 20 that should be more then enough. Engineers golden ratio - 22:1. For every 22 ideas, theres maybe 1 good one. For every 22 people, maybe there's 1 good one! lol

Thanks for the support. Keep the information flowing though! I definitely need to know of any up coming events and anyone available for interview. Numbers are looking great so far but the more the better!



Sounds good to me, although a phone interview to check on their media savviness might work better than having to tramp down with your gear =)

And side by side action is good, but still not enough for a ten minute docu. I mean, the basic shots are:

LS guys sitting and playing
MS guys sitting and playing
CU eyes
CU keyboard hand
CU mouse hand
pull focus mouse hand to keyboard hand and vice versa
Over shoulder shot screen

... which holds for about 30 seconds. You'll need some different scenes... but then, from what you've said, I'm almost 100% sure you've already sorted this out so I'm going to quit having so little faith before you're forced to reveal all your aces =)
GhostOutlaw
Profile Joined March 2009
United States37 Posts
March 05 2009 17:05 GMT
#43
Blizzcon is coming up! Unfortunately,

1) Out of my budget and tickets are damn near impossible to get anyway. Last year tickets sold out in about 5 minutes.

2) It's outside of my classroom deadline, although this project will probably go outside of those boundaries anyway.

3) BUDGET! lol

I totally would love to get that footage as there is a lot of good content there but, I'm ashamed to admit this, it just might not be feasible.

On the other hand I am talking to some people about live events and hoping they get to me with osme information on an upcoming live event that I can get some good footage from as well as maybe footage outside the event as well.

If anyone does have some events coming up that they have not mentioned to my (NYC, Boston, down as far as maryland maybe) I'm definitly interested and let me know ASAP!

Also still looking for more interview subjects!

Keep the requests coming!
GhostOutlaw
Profile Joined March 2009
United States37 Posts
March 06 2009 18:59 GMT
#44
Update!!!

Ok, here is a small update and some changes.

So far things are going well as far as getting interviews and all that fun stuff. What I want to point out with this update is that I can accept webcam interviews! Basically no matter how far away you are I can now utilize you (although I am still prefering live interviews).

Basically what I need is if you want to be interviewed all you have to do is contact me the same as everyone else. What's important though is that you will need to be willing to work with me. That means you will have to set up a green screen (easy), we will have to sort out a lighting setup (not too bad if you can change locations with your cam pretty easily) and you will need a very good web cam and mic setup. I cannot send you my own but basically if you have an HD webcam and a good mic, you're good to go!

So when you contact me regarding a webcam interview, please include the specs of your webcam. Ideally I need it to shoot in HD, but if it can shoot at 30 FPS and can do a resolution of at least 800x600, it's probably managable.

Being interviewed via webcam does not garuntee screen time in the final product but you've got a better chance then someone who doesn't interview at all, lol.

For the TLDR crowd:

Webcam interviews are go, start contacting me if your interested!

Keep the info coming!

And also I am still looking for a live event anywhere in the nearby states (with a good amount of people) for me to go and get some footage and sound bytes. The sooner the better, but let me know anyway!

Thanks so much guys!
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 07 2009 08:10 GMT
#45
Whatever happened to Tasteless on Frontline?
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
March 07 2009 09:35 GMT
#46
im in NJ, central. what are you planning?
GhostOutlaw
Profile Joined March 2009
United States37 Posts
March 07 2009 15:02 GMT
#47
I've actually been PMing back and forth with tasteless and he has agreed to help! So thats good and I will be in touch with him a bit more.

Raithed, I'll PM you and get you some info a bit later, running out the door right now.

Status update:

So far I have 5 interviews scheduled! That's actually really good! (I know I said I wanted 50, basically shoot for the moon, miss and end up with stars or something like that) I am still in the process of scheduling more but I do want to get some foreigners in here to. Not discriminating but I want to display how global it really is.

Remember, webcam interviews and sound bytes are viable so if you were from far far away (loleurope) you can now be useful!

Thanks for all the support so far. Things are slowly starting to fall into place.

I am still looking for a live event to attend, ideally with at least 100 or so people to get some good atmostphere footage and plenty of sound bytes.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11593 Posts
March 07 2009 16:37 GMT
#48
the next live event with 100's of people is going to be blizzcon, then wcg.

if you are looking for bits of video of like the crowd, try to download a VOD from an OSL or MSL Final.

Also, if i'm not mistaken infinity[pG] moved to New York from Germany, maybe he's interested.
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GhostOutlaw
Profile Joined March 2009
United States37 Posts
March 07 2009 18:57 GMT
#49
Is infinity a TL member?

Also I need the event so I can get a bunch of sound bytes from a bunch of players and some video clips. I almost need to direct the clips I'm looking for to get the desired action so I don't need 100s of players, but I need enough to make the event look real lively.

I'm also looking for something very, very, soon. Deadlines are REALLY REALLY lame.

Thanks all!
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
March 08 2009 01:52 GMT
#50
^ he is.
Dave_gg
Profile Joined March 2009
United States2 Posts
March 09 2009 23:03 GMT
#51
I just finished a short "video paper" on Starcraft Phenom in S. Korean for my Popular Culture class. Its out on Google Video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4316536784987943658

I can provide you with some of the background research I found if it helps for your work

Dave
GhostOutlaw
Profile Joined March 2009
United States37 Posts
March 10 2009 00:36 GMT
#52
I totally just lost sound on my computer, my sound card just went bad. But it looks good. If these video sites didnt compress the shit out of it i'm sure itd look better. Actually inspired me a bit.

As for the research, pfft, who needs research! Have you seen some of the shit on TV?!?! I may actually ask you where you did get some of your video clips cause I think there might be 1 or 2 I want to swindle. Once I get sound back and some free time I will be in touch with you.

Thanks!

Also, not sure where your located, but if you want to be interviewed, that would be good since you do have the background knowledge to present a lot of cool information on tape!

Thanks!
GhostOutlaw
Profile Joined March 2009
United States37 Posts
March 10 2009 15:37 GMT
#53
Update:

Tv studio closed all next week (spring break) booooo. No interviews getting done which is lame. I am working on capturing good in game footage as well as sounds and other cool stuff.

I am REALLY REALLY desperate for a few more live interviews though. These are full interviews I'm looking for. And like I said it can be anyone, spectator, player, pro, semi-pro, casual with a good knowledge of the pro-scene and game. Basically anyone who can articulate a lot of good information!

Also looking for soundbytes and webcam interviews of anyone willing.

Also REALLY looking for a live event to go to, big or small where I can get some footage and some soundbytes and short clips as well.

Please let me know guys. I do appreciate all the help and communication.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-11 13:41:07
March 11 2009 13:40 GMT
#54
Hey:

I'd be willing to do an interview. I live in Manhattan NYC, where are you? I've only been playing competitively for a year but I've got a good knowledge of the recent pro scene and I think I can put up a good argument to encourage/publicize Starcraft. However, I'm only 13 years old (could be good or bad - good: diversity, bad: maybe you don't want someone that age haha ^^) =) PM me or email me (pokebunnytaber [at] gmail [dot] com) with info about whether or not you want an interview, and what I should do. Thanks and good luck!
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
GhostOutlaw
Profile Joined March 2009
United States37 Posts
March 11 2009 16:28 GMT
#55
Definitly willing to work with you.

E-mail sent. I'll take the interview either way. If i do end up cutting it out or just using bytes from it, sorry, if some cool stuff gets in, great, if it all gets in, even better! The only concern might be signing a release since you are 13, but nothing too major.

Let's talk diversity. Yes, your young, that's fine, no problem here. Can we get a double count for female? Triple count for (insert random race here)? Lol. Not that we count race or age or anything like that. Everyone in the world is totally colorblind and discrimination free. LoL. But all cool, the more the merrier. I'm not like trying to check off on my list: White guy, Minor, Asian, Female and so on. I don't even care personally. But actually I have had a few females come forward to do some sound bytes and interviews and there was someone else cool who came forward. Totally slips my mind at the moment but they were somewhat important, somehow.

If I remember I'll let you know but hopefully this all turns out real cool. Still looking for a live event and always accepting more interviews.

Keep em coming guys.

Thanks!
GhostOutlaw
Profile Joined March 2009
United States37 Posts
March 14 2009 15:03 GMT
#56
Update: CHYEA!

Ok, so it looks like there is going to be a small LAN party this upcoming week. Although not confirmed, it will probably be at web2zone in NYC at some point in the day thursday. So anyone who is interested, check out this thread.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88517&currentpage=All

I will absolutely be there, with equipment to pick up some interviews and sound bytes. Once I get tired of that I'll probably sit down and play for a bit too!

The more the merrier!

Could use a few more live interviews. If you've been in contact with me already, check your emails! I need to hear back from you to make things official!

But thanks for all the support, it looks like this is slowly piecing together. Oh, and if this gets done as intended (feature length, 42 minutes) by the deadline, I'm pretty sure that's the fastest turn around time for a doc EVER! Lol. My deadline is like the first week of may or something beat like that. But yea, MORE FOOTAGE!
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
March 14 2009 17:05 GMT
#57
i'm going to get you your samples monday.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 14 2009 17:48 GMT
#58
Very cool idea dude gonna love watching it when it comes out I'm sure.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
March 14 2009 18:20 GMT
#59
Damn sounds like ALOT of work for one guy.. just remember to be realistic and dont get ahead of yourself..
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
GhostOutlaw
Profile Joined March 2009
United States37 Posts
March 14 2009 22:41 GMT
#60
Yea, the length is really gonna depend on a few factors.

Theres a few story elements I need to get. Basically this documentary is going to try to tell 5 different stories (sounds like a lot, but its more of a micro to macro sort of deal so it shouldnt be to confusing). That means each story gets about 8 minutes of screen time if it needs to be averaged. The documentary will be drastically shorter, though, should any specific story not get the proper setup/footage to be told.

And there goes another one of my little secrets about it. Hopefully no one goes ahead and makes a starcraft doc now! Lol. Actually, now that I think about. Storyteller offered to help me out with ideas and stuff, and I shared a bit and haven't heard from him in quite some time.

Sigh, guess its time to go copyright all my stuff...
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