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Winners League - The 'all-kill' Proleague

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-13 02:15:48
January 12 2009 11:36 GMT
#1
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On January 13 2009 09:51 mrmin123 wrote:
Today, the Korean eSports Association (headed by President Kim Sin Bae) revealed the brackets and league logo of the new Shinhan Bank Winner's League 08-09. The league is scheduled to start on the upcoming Saturday (17th), and features the winner-progresses format.

The regular season of the Shinhan Bank Winner's League 08-09 will span over 7 weeks, and progress seperately from the semi-playoffs, playoffs, and finals. Scores after the semi-playoffs will not be added to the regular scores. Changes to the Shinhan Bank Winner's League include:

1. Regular Season "7-game 4-win winner" system & All-kill system revitalization
The league, which starts on January 17th (Saturday), will use the same regular season all-kill format. The 'all-kill' format allows the winning player to continue playing to the next round, allowing teams with one or two ace players to be able to be able to sweep the series. Also, a special quarterfinals playoff selection will be used to create more excitement for eSports fans. The winner of the three-round Shinhan Bank Winner's League 08-09 will receive 10,000,000 KRW (~7,360 USD) in prize money.

2. Game schedule management - Weekends & Wednesdays: 1 PM, Mondays & Tuesdays: 6 PM
In consideration of possible game number increases and the personal league schedules, the League game start times will be tightly regulated.

The Korean eSports Association has spoken with both broadcasters (Ongamenet and MBCGame), and the parties have come to a mutual agreement in pushing the broadcast times earlier.

Thus, the broadcasts originally scheduled on Mondays and Tuesdays 6:30 PM have been pulled forward 30 minutes to start at 6 PM, and the broadcasts originally scheduled for 2 PM on Weekends and Wednesdays have been pulled forward an hour at 1 PM.

Only the Shinhan Bank Winner's League broadcast have been altered, and the 4th round of the league will revert back to the originally planned 2 PM and 6:30 PM broadcast times.

3. Entry Announcement: Only the opener will be announced 48 hours prior
48 hours before the Saturday game of every week, on Thursday 1 PM, the entries will be made public.

Only the opening player will be announced, and any subsequent player selections will be made on the spot during the series. Teams will be given 1 minute to decide their next player. In addition, to stay true to the all-kill theme, the players will be designated 'titles' according to their order of play. The opening player called the 'Vanguard,' the second player the 'Chabohng,' the third player the 'Center,' the fourth and last player the 'General.'

4. The 5-minute Setup Rule
Each players will be allowed 5-minutes prior to each game to set up their computers. New players from the team who just lost a game will be allowed to introduce themselves to the crowd, and then be allotted another 5 minutes in their booths to set up.

5. Neo Requiem is out, Tau Cross is in!
The Shinhan Bank Winner's League 08-09's official maps are based off of the 2nd round maps. However, Neo Requiem has been swapped out for Tau Cross. Balance issues on Neo Requiem has been brought up, and there has been many complaints that the map did not fit with the rest of 3rd round maps.

The new 3rd round map Tau Cross is from the 2006 SKY Proleague and the 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague, and is a 3-player symmetrical macro-based map. Tau Cross provided intense games for all races, and received much positive feedback when in use, thus will be brought back during the 3rd round to provide for more exciting games.

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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 12 2009 11:39 GMT
#2
i hope its a all kill format and how many kills will the stars players get.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
January 12 2009 11:41 GMT
#3
Proleague is great but I don't see how this format is going to flop, especially as a one season thing! Really looking forward to seeing monsters (Flash, JD, dragons, etc.) playing multiple games in one night and getting "sniped" from multiple directions.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
January 12 2009 11:46 GMT
#4
I always prefered the all kill format compared to the current format right now.
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 12 2009 14:53 GMT
#5
Wow this could be interesting!
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
January 12 2009 14:55 GMT
#6
I'm looking forward to this - it sounds like it will be fun to watch and photograph.
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 12 2009 15:07 GMT
#7
I think I would prefer this format. Have to wait and see first though.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 12 2009 15:29 GMT
#8
ALL KILL?! all love!!
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
January 12 2009 15:33 GMT
#9
even MORE games per week????
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
January 12 2009 15:34 GMT
#10
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-Thanks to GTR-2-GO for some translation help

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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
January 12 2009 15:35 GMT
#11
i love this stuff.

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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 12 2009 15:39 GMT
#12
HOLY SHIT! I love team battle format <3 (if that's what this is?)

OOV, DO IT UP MOFO.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 12 2009 15:58 GMT
#13
TAU CROSS
Chobi
Profile Joined January 2009
45 Posts
January 12 2009 16:12 GMT
#14
Wow, KTF vs SKT1~! Flash vs Bisu again?

The whole thing looks pretty exciting.
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 12 2009 16:13 GMT
#15
i think it's good to mix it up like this. the regular format gives no names a greater opportunity to play. the winners league can be really exciting as well.

but bo7? too much yo.
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4668 Posts
January 12 2009 16:15 GMT
#16
I can't wait for this shit! Bo7's might get a little long, but who the fuck cares. Seeing Leta/Yarnc combo be as unstoppable as possible is going to be awesome!
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
January 12 2009 16:41 GMT
#17
This could be a really good way for some unknown player to get their name out there. Instead of tirelessly having to rack up wins over a long period of time, or put up results in msl/osl. They could just all kill some team.
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7047 Posts
January 12 2009 16:49 GMT
#18
I love it.

I imagine this will drastically change what teams are considered the best, I mean, now Flash does not need another team mate to atleast win once to secure 3-2 and can go for an all-kill.
Meanwhile of course other teams can set up Flash snipers and woah its so cool~
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 12 2009 17:02 GMT
#19
So the winner's league results will not factor into PL at all?

I'm excited to see the new format, but I don't understand putting PL on a month and a half hiatus in the middle of the season to try this out. If the king of the hill matches weren't going to be factored into PL, why not just wait until PL is over, then try this in between PL seasons?
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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
January 12 2009 17:05 GMT
#20
On January 13 2009 01:41 Divinek wrote:
This could be a really good way for some unknown player to get their name out there. Instead of tirelessly having to rack up wins over a long period of time, or put up results in msl/osl. They could just all kill some team.



Or be one of many to lose to JD/Flash/Bisu/Best
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