• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:20
CEST 07:20
KST 14:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure0[ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals7Code S RO12 Preview: Maru, Trigger, Rogue, NightMare12Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, sOs, Reynor, Solar15[ASL19] Ro8 Preview: Unyielding3
Community News
Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025)18Weekly Cups (May 5-11): New 2v2 Champs1Maru & Rogue GSL RO12 interviews: "I think the pressure really got to [trigger]"5Code S Season 1 - Maru & Rogue advance to RO80Code S Season 1 - Cure & Reynor advance to RO84
StarCraft 2
General
I hope balance council is prepping final balance 2024/25 Off-Season Roster Moves Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure Is there a place to provide feedback for maps? Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025)
Tourneys
JetBlue Airlines Cancellation Policy – Flexible Ch Spirit Airlines Cancellation Policy – Fast Help United Airlines Cancellation Policy – Flexible Southwest Airlines Cancellation Policy – No Fees, Delta Airlines Cancellation Policy – Flexible Chan
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed Mutation # 470 Certain Demise
Brood War
General
ASL 19 Tickets for foreigners BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site [ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals
Tourneys
[ASL19] Semifinal B [ASL19] Semifinal A BSL Nation Wars 2 - Grand Finals - Saturday 21:00 [ASL19] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Grand Theft Auto VI Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Iraq & Syrian Civil Wars Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Why 5v5 Games Keep Us Hooked…
TrAiDoS
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
BW PvZ Balance hypothetic…
Vasoline73
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5093 users

Winners League - The 'all-kill' Proleague

Forum Index > BW General
148 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-13 02:15:48
January 12 2009 11:36 GMT
#1
[image loading]


On January 13 2009 09:51 mrmin123 wrote:
Today, the Korean eSports Association (headed by President Kim Sin Bae) revealed the brackets and league logo of the new Shinhan Bank Winner's League 08-09. The league is scheduled to start on the upcoming Saturday (17th), and features the winner-progresses format.

The regular season of the Shinhan Bank Winner's League 08-09 will span over 7 weeks, and progress seperately from the semi-playoffs, playoffs, and finals. Scores after the semi-playoffs will not be added to the regular scores. Changes to the Shinhan Bank Winner's League include:

1. Regular Season "7-game 4-win winner" system & All-kill system revitalization
The league, which starts on January 17th (Saturday), will use the same regular season all-kill format. The 'all-kill' format allows the winning player to continue playing to the next round, allowing teams with one or two ace players to be able to be able to sweep the series. Also, a special quarterfinals playoff selection will be used to create more excitement for eSports fans. The winner of the three-round Shinhan Bank Winner's League 08-09 will receive 10,000,000 KRW (~7,360 USD) in prize money.

2. Game schedule management - Weekends & Wednesdays: 1 PM, Mondays & Tuesdays: 6 PM
In consideration of possible game number increases and the personal league schedules, the League game start times will be tightly regulated.

The Korean eSports Association has spoken with both broadcasters (Ongamenet and MBCGame), and the parties have come to a mutual agreement in pushing the broadcast times earlier.

Thus, the broadcasts originally scheduled on Mondays and Tuesdays 6:30 PM have been pulled forward 30 minutes to start at 6 PM, and the broadcasts originally scheduled for 2 PM on Weekends and Wednesdays have been pulled forward an hour at 1 PM.

Only the Shinhan Bank Winner's League broadcast have been altered, and the 4th round of the league will revert back to the originally planned 2 PM and 6:30 PM broadcast times.

3. Entry Announcement: Only the opener will be announced 48 hours prior
48 hours before the Saturday game of every week, on Thursday 1 PM, the entries will be made public.

Only the opening player will be announced, and any subsequent player selections will be made on the spot during the series. Teams will be given 1 minute to decide their next player. In addition, to stay true to the all-kill theme, the players will be designated 'titles' according to their order of play. The opening player called the 'Vanguard,' the second player the 'Chabohng,' the third player the 'Center,' the fourth and last player the 'General.'

4. The 5-minute Setup Rule
Each players will be allowed 5-minutes prior to each game to set up their computers. New players from the team who just lost a game will be allowed to introduce themselves to the crowd, and then be allotted another 5 minutes in their booths to set up.

5. Neo Requiem is out, Tau Cross is in!
The Shinhan Bank Winner's League 08-09's official maps are based off of the 2nd round maps. However, Neo Requiem has been swapped out for Tau Cross. Balance issues on Neo Requiem has been brought up, and there has been many complaints that the map did not fit with the rest of 3rd round maps.

The new 3rd round map Tau Cross is from the 2006 SKY Proleague and the 2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague, and is a 3-player symmetrical macro-based map. Tau Cross provided intense games for all races, and received much positive feedback when in use, thus will be brought back during the 3rd round to provide for more exciting games.

Facebook Twitter Reddit
Commentator
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 12 2009 11:39 GMT
#2
i hope its a all kill format and how many kills will the stars players get.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 12 2009 11:41 GMT
#3
Proleague is great but I don't see how this format is going to flop, especially as a one season thing! Really looking forward to seeing monsters (Flash, JD, dragons, etc.) playing multiple games in one night and getting "sniped" from multiple directions.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
January 12 2009 11:46 GMT
#4
I always prefered the all kill format compared to the current format right now.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 12 2009 14:53 GMT
#5
Wow this could be interesting!
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
January 12 2009 14:55 GMT
#6
I'm looking forward to this - it sounds like it will be fun to watch and photograph.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 12 2009 15:07 GMT
#7
I think I would prefer this format. Have to wait and see first though.
Brood War loyalist
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 12 2009 15:29 GMT
#8
ALL KILL?! all love!!
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
January 12 2009 15:33 GMT
#9
even MORE games per week????
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
January 12 2009 15:34 GMT
#10
[image loading]

-Thanks to GTR-2-GO for some translation help

Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
January 12 2009 15:35 GMT
#11
i love this stuff.

THIS WILL ROCK FOR SURE.

https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 12 2009 15:39 GMT
#12
HOLY SHIT! I love team battle format <3 (if that's what this is?)

OOV, DO IT UP MOFO.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 12 2009 15:58 GMT
#13
TAU CROSS
Chobi
Profile Joined January 2009
45 Posts
January 12 2009 16:12 GMT
#14
Wow, KTF vs SKT1~! Flash vs Bisu again?

The whole thing looks pretty exciting.
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
January 12 2009 16:13 GMT
#15
i think it's good to mix it up like this. the regular format gives no names a greater opportunity to play. the winners league can be really exciting as well.

but bo7? too much yo.
manner
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4612 Posts
January 12 2009 16:15 GMT
#16
I can't wait for this shit! Bo7's might get a little long, but who the fuck cares. Seeing Leta/Yarnc combo be as unstoppable as possible is going to be awesome!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
January 12 2009 16:41 GMT
#17
This could be a really good way for some unknown player to get their name out there. Instead of tirelessly having to rack up wins over a long period of time, or put up results in msl/osl. They could just all kill some team.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6984 Posts
January 12 2009 16:49 GMT
#18
I love it.

I imagine this will drastically change what teams are considered the best, I mean, now Flash does not need another team mate to atleast win once to secure 3-2 and can go for an all-kill.
Meanwhile of course other teams can set up Flash snipers and woah its so cool~
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 12 2009 17:02 GMT
#19
So the winner's league results will not factor into PL at all?

I'm excited to see the new format, but I don't understand putting PL on a month and a half hiatus in the middle of the season to try this out. If the king of the hill matches weren't going to be factored into PL, why not just wait until PL is over, then try this in between PL seasons?
Moderator
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8076 Posts
January 12 2009 17:05 GMT
#20
On January 13 2009 01:41 Divinek wrote:
This could be a really good way for some unknown player to get their name out there. Instead of tirelessly having to rack up wins over a long period of time, or put up results in msl/osl. They could just all kill some team.



Or be one of many to lose to JD/Flash/Bisu/Best
I like starcraft
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft516
Nina 197
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 306
Shine 16
Bale 5
Noble 1
Britney 0
Dota 2
monkeys_forever492
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K632
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0690
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor125
Other Games
summit1g10735
tarik_tv7364
Maynarde290
SortOf52
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL16108
Other Games
gamesdonequick1171
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv96
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH235
• practicex 39
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 43
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1013
• Lourlo954
• Stunt402
Other Games
• Scarra1099
Upcoming Events
GSL Code S
4h 10m
ByuN vs Rogue
herO vs Cure
Replay Cast
18h 40m
GSL Code S
1d 4h
Classic vs Reynor
GuMiho vs Maru
The PondCast
1d 4h
RSL Revival
1d 17h
GSL Code S
2 days
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
SOOP
3 days
HeRoMaRinE vs Astrea
[ Show More ]
Online Event
3 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Nation Wars Season 2
PiG Sty Festival 6.0
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
2025 GSL S1
Heroes 10 EU
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

NPSL S3
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.