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New OSL Map: Tears of the Moon - Page 5

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CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
December 15 2008 21:14 GMT
#81
On December 15 2008 11:57 Aurious wrote:
Wasn't something like this supposed to have been used about a year ago?

That or something like it maybe for 2v2?

Perhaps you are thinking of the map Sword in the Moon, which the community eventually decided to call Harmony. I think it had something to do with multiple translations.
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bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
December 15 2008 22:27 GMT
#82
Can't wait to see ZvP on this map.
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MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
December 16 2008 00:38 GMT
#83
On December 16 2008 04:03 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2008 03:52 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On December 16 2008 03:03 Crunchums wrote:
God damnit rotk needs to diagf


die in a gay fire?


I think it's die in a giant fire

Die in a gotdamn fire?
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
December 16 2008 00:45 GMT
#84
On December 16 2008 05:40 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
wow, 10 is really really small inbase, protoss could have problems here

There's a ton of space toward the top of the base though. I think that equals it out.
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Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
December 16 2008 00:48 GMT
#85
On December 16 2008 09:45 lgdDante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2008 05:40 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
wow, 10 is really really small inbase, protoss could have problems here

There's a ton of space toward the top of the base though. I think that equals it out.

Yeah these bases all look huge imo. Should fit all of the buildings P could need... even without taking into account that this map has less resources than many.
firedodo
Profile Joined November 2008
China116 Posts
December 16 2008 00:58 GMT
#86
Nice name & nice look. But 3 twilights in 4 maps OMFG... Am I going to see ICE in my life again?
firedodo
Profile Joined November 2008
China116 Posts
December 16 2008 01:00 GMT
#87
Also this map LACKS mineral... and calls for multiple expansions
Not bad for Zergs, ha
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
December 16 2008 01:22 GMT
#88
FE is still possible... maybe you guys have forgotten about 2gate expo! with gates in the nat ^^
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MisterKatosS
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
France352 Posts
December 16 2008 01:34 GMT
#89
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
December 16 2008 02:37 GMT
#90
On December 15 2008 22:06 Plexa wrote:
This will end up being Zerg favored vs P imo sooo many routes to the natural


I was actually going to argue this too, but not for that reason. It's cause OGN zergs tested it, meaning ZvT will be impossible (OGN zergs ZvT really good -> map really hard for other teams' ZvT) while their ZvP is going to be really easy (OGN zergs ZvP really bad -> map really easy for other teams' ZvP). It was hard to write that eloquently and it's not very witty either.
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17050 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 02:43:10
December 16 2008 02:41 GMT
#91
To be fair, I think this'll be a reversion to the old 1 base Protoss vs. 2 base Zerg style. Keep in mind that a nat that's hard to defend with static defense also disadvantages Zerg, especially in ZvT. Remember that cute attack on RoV that someone did a while back (sorry I forget...he basically mined the minerals and sent in MM)? That's entirely possible now, except you won't have to wait to mine the minerals either. Setting up a Sunken Line will also be difficult.

EDIT: Also, it looks like in TvP, if Terran controls the third (the one on the high ground), with mech, then he also easily defends the fourth (the low ground one separated from the nat).

And diagf means die in a grease fire.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
December 16 2008 02:53 GMT
#92
nah I'm sure the pros will come up with some insane forge/gateway/cannon placement that effectively blocks both entrances to the natural
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ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
December 16 2008 02:56 GMT
#93
On December 16 2008 11:53 blabber wrote:
nah I'm sure the pros will come up with some insane forge/gateway/cannon placement that effectively blocks both entrances to the natural


I'm thinking the plyon is going to be in the middle. Then again, it looks like a long path for lings but those little buggers are pretty fast.

Ugh, I guess I'll have to watch the pros.
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7830 Posts
December 16 2008 02:57 GMT
#94
On December 15 2008 22:10 thedeadhaji wrote:
noooo plasma

i wish they tried to make Plasma II


Agreed! I liked Plasma alot even though it was imba .
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
December 16 2008 03:07 GMT
#95
I could see carriers on this map. Those narrow passages seems good for carrier micro. Though the open middle doesn't look too good for carriers.
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barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
December 16 2008 11:19 GMT
#96
I think its possible for Protoss to FE getting 3 cannons and 2 probes on the ramp...
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 11:25:25
December 16 2008 11:25 GMT
#97
wrong thread
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
December 16 2008 11:51 GMT
#98
wow, uhh, big mains *looks for places to proxy*

-I like how the natural can be "flanked", which is practically impossible in most maps.
-The 6 main looks kinda small
-Nat is siegeable.
-Looks kinda hard to Forge Expand here, since lings can get in two angles.
-I like how the 3rd can "secure" a fourth min only. Ok nevermind, 4 patches only, but at least the 3rd has a gas, 3 gas = happy Protoss.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
December 16 2008 12:18 GMT
#99
On December 16 2008 11:56 ilistis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2008 11:53 blabber wrote:
nah I'm sure the pros will come up with some insane forge/gateway/cannon placement that effectively blocks both entrances to the natural


I'm thinking the plyon is going to be in the middle. Then again, it looks like a long path for lings but those little buggers are pretty fast.

Ugh, I guess I'll have to watch the pros.

hmm, yeah I forgot to consider the distances between mains..oh wait, they're not that far actually.

A 9-pool may force the Toss to go 2 cannons before gateway, therefore, forcing the Protoss to delay the gateway.

Oh wait, I think I found an area where a pylon forge double cannon can be placed even if the lings come from one side. I'm still visualizing though on the scenario if speedlings come in from 2 sides, maybe blocking the ramp with 3-5 probes will do...

I think 12 hatch will be easy, cuz if a gateway is placed in a way that it will delay the lings even if they flank, it will make the lings run a greater distance. By that time, the group of lings that came from one side might be dead already and the cannon is sitting pretty to kill the ones who took a detour....

Not sure though
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Revolutionary
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada38 Posts
December 16 2008 17:27 GMT
#100
Sick map.
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