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Sharp_V_
Logitech Mini， DT35
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Bisu
Logitech Mini， DT35
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Stork
Logitech G1， DT35
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Savior
Logitech Mini， DT35
See More:
Picture of IEF2008 Day1
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=83435
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
Sharp_V_ Logitech Mini， DT35 Bisu Logitech Mini， DT35 Stork Logitech G1， DT35 Savior Logitech Mini， DT35 See More: Picture of IEF2008 Day1 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=83435 | ||
jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
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vAltyR
United States581 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On December 06 2008 02:40 Wasabi wrote: Savior will destroy... His arteries in 2009, thanks KFC. whats KFC  | ||
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Solinren
United States2653 Posts
Kentucky Fried Chicken The cup on savior's desk | ||
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
Damn 3rd world country I say with your kötbullar or w/e  Thanks for the pictures...clicking thread title led me thinking "oh come on, not this for the 13425th time", but this is cool  | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
On December 06 2008 02:52 Wasabi wrote: They don't have KFCs in Sweden? Cool. They banned trans fats there I think...? /off topic lol oh, srsly? kewl? | ||
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Jonteman
Sweden644 Posts
On December 06 2008 02:52 Wasabi wrote: They don't have KFCs in Sweden? Cool. They banned trans fats there I think...? /off topic lol Hm, no, trans fats isn't banned. I have no idea why we don't have that chicken though : (. | ||
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
KentuckyFriedToss. KFtoss fightinggg!! Also, on topic, what's so special about that keyboard that makes everyone use it? | ||
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On December 06 2008 04:05 Hyperionnn wrote: Bisu is playing terran (his ex-race) during warmup lol. with the protoss ui? | ||
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ZhenMiChan
Netherlands1181 Posts
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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Tarmak_mk
Macedonia410 Posts
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On December 06 2008 04:56 Tarmak_mk wrote: chobo mouses :D:D!! They conpensate it with gosu skills... we on the other hand are pretty much the opposite. (razer mices with nooby skills) | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
Mind control?  | ||
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BlackJack
United States10568 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
he signed his mouse for me and xeo and gave it to us lol | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On December 06 2008 06:07 RaGe wrote: jaedong uses a mini optical too he signed his mouse for me and xeo and gave it to us lol i'm jealous =/ | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On December 06 2008 06:07 RaGe wrote: jaedong uses a mini optical too he signed his mouse for me and xeo and gave it to us lol wat | ||
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only_human89
United States212 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
On December 06 2008 06:25 only_human89 wrote: Yo does anybody know where you can buy an optical mini from? I use the G3, which I'm perfectly comfortable with. However, my original plans were to buy a mini but I found the G3 first. amazon.com | ||
Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
Logitech op mini is the king of mice. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
hmm, i tried finding the keyboard on amazon.com as well... is there something strange in the name i dont know about? For i cant find any. edit: nevermind.. im an idiot http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SEM-DT35-Keyboard-USB/dp/B0007TT3LQ | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
On December 06 2008 07:18 liger13 wrote: hmm, i tried finding the keyboard on amazon.com as well... is there something strange in the name i dont know about? For i cant find any. edit: nevermind.. im an idiot http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SEM-DT35-Keyboard-USB/dp/B0007TT3LQ dt35 is pretty rare. I have only seen 1 website that sells it and it was rather expensive. DT35 60$ for a simple keyboard. | ||
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
On December 06 2008 07:21 kNyTTyM wrote: dt35 is pretty rare. I have only seen 1 website that sells it and it was rather expensive. DT35 60$ for a simple keyboard. omg.. thats insane... | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
The only difference if any that I've noticed is that the keys are slightly closer together than western keyboards usually are, which would help pple with smaller hands (a category which asians would most likely fit into) The keys aren't even that soft and I'm pretty sure you can find many keyboards that require less force than the DT35. One thing though to note is that its keystrokes are damn quiet. Best way to get one is to ask a korean friend when he goes back home. They cost like $15 so give him like $20-25 for his troubles. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
They are labeled under the "QSenn" brand, not Samsung now. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On December 06 2008 08:01 thedeadhaji wrote: dt35 is just a generic keyboard, nothing special to it. The only difference if any that I've noticed is that the keys are slightly closer together than western keyboards usually are, which would help pple with smaller hands (a category which asians would most likely fit into) The keys aren't even that soft and I'm pretty sure you can find many keyboards that require less force than the DT35. One thing though to note is that its keystrokes are damn quiet. Best way to get one is to ask a korean friend when he goes back home. They cost like $15 so give him like $20-25 for his troubles. Yea someone had one of the So Cal lans last year and I touched it a little and the keys feel perfect and are soundless. They did seem a bit closer together. I want one still. on a side note, If I was a korean I would be scooping up tons of these and selling on ebay for the world. | ||
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RoC)Ninjah
United States238 Posts
storks hands are really bony >_< | ||
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CompX
Canada216 Posts
what kind of keyboard and mouse do u guys use I use microsoft multimedia keyboard 1.0A and Microsoft wheel mouse optical 1.1A >_< | ||
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xxsaznpride
United States506 Posts
On December 06 2008 12:10 CompX wrote: *off topic* what kind of keyboard and mouse do u guys use I use microsoft multimedia keyboard 1.0A and Microsoft wheel mouse optical 1.1A >_< mouse: Razor Diamondback 3g or something... keyboard: whatever my laptop has. Idk why people bitch about laptop keyboards. Mine works perfectly for sc (though I will probably never be above D on iccup...). ontopic: what makes that logitech optical thing better for sc than anything else like... say... my diamondback? | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On December 06 2008 12:10 CompX wrote: *off topic* what kind of keyboard and mouse do u guys use I use microsoft multimedia keyboard 1.0A and Microsoft wheel mouse optical 1.1A >_< My old gear when I was more of a CS player was a Dell keyboard + Microsoft Intelli 1.1 w/ Steelseries QcK Heavy. I stopped playing CS now and I'm trying to get back into SC so my new equipment is the new generation Logitech Optical with a smaller generic black mousepad. | ||
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fAnTaCy
United States893 Posts
On December 06 2008 12:10 CompX wrote: *off topic* what kind of keyboard and mouse do u guys use I use microsoft multimedia keyboard 1.0A and Microsoft wheel mouse optical 1.1A >_< Micro keyboard (cheap 10 dollar yet amazing keyboard) and a razer krait | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
The captions refer to the pics above them.* The one above that caption has a terran UI. *check the first pic with no caption above it, or the last caption with no pic below it. Has to be pic ___ caption | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
Cherry Cymotion Master Linux keyboard cause I like penguins and it matches my case. Sucks for BW though: with the extra column of keys control and escape are no longer on the corners. Thinking of a Steelseries 7g for the more old school layout plus super rare n-key rollover (for Frets on Fire, or 4 people using it at once for Mario Kart lol) On December 06 2008 12:20 xxsaznpride wrote: Idk why people bitch about laptop keyboards. Mine works perfectly for sc (though I will probably never be above D on iccup...). My laptop is an eee. When I play BW on it I'd sure as heck prefer an external keyboard. Luckily it's just for emergencies (like when I have to leave the basement) | ||
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Snare
Trinidad/Tobago129 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On December 06 2008 08:13 CharlieMurphy wrote: Yea someone had one of the So Cal lans last year and I touched it a little and the keys feel perfect and are soundless. They did seem a bit closer together. I want one still. on a side note, If I was a korean I would be scooping up tons of these and selling on ebay for the world. unless you price gouge and make like 100% margin on it, it's definitely not worth it. (hence the extreme prices on the places that do sell them worldwide) | ||
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onihunter
United States515 Posts
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iCCup.Trent
Argentina450 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
I kinda want a DT35. But I feel like it'd be such a worthless purchase. | ||
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
the names r below the images... | ||
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geno
United States1404 Posts
On December 06 2008 13:21 MamiyaOtaru wrote: Razer Deathadder mouse. Since it was a team-up with Microsoft, the shape is almost the same as the Intellimouse Explorer 1 I used for 7 years or so (and actually still use for everything but gaming. They are both sitting on the gigantic razer mousepad I got for free with the Deathadder as part of the TSL promotion) I didn't know the Deathadder was a team-up deal with Microsoft, I can't find that info on its page anywhere. I know for sure my mouse was a team-up with Microsoft (in fact, its technically Microsoft's product with Razor tech in it), which, like you, is the reason I got it. ![[image loading]](http://triton.imageshack.us/Himg49/scaled.php?server=49&filename=dsc00170jk2.jpg&xsize=578&ysize=480) It feels very similar to their cheap optical mouse I had for so many years, except ergonomically designed, which I got used to in less than a day. Coincidentally, now when I use my brother's old non-ergonomic Microsoft optical, it feels so unnatural lol. My keyboard is just a cheap $15 keyboard, but I like where all the keys are which is getting harder and harder to find in a cheap keyboard these days. I am really thinking about getting this Razor keyboard though when it comes out: ![[image loading]](http://www.techpowerup.com/img/08-10-08/mirror.jpg) Its the same layout I'm using, and I love the USB port on it. Not to mention it will match my mouse! Its the same thing as their current Lycosa in terms of features, but instead of a rubber finish it has a high-gloss mirror finish which I like I better. The backlighting is pretty pimp, and the anti-ghosting / 1ms response / programmable keys stuff is all icing. Dunno if I'd actually be willing to spend that much though.. maybe I can convince someone to give it to me for xmas haha. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20022 Posts
On December 06 2008 02:05 zoLo wrote: Isn't the Samsung DT-35 a Korean keyboard that is easy to type in Korean or has Korean keys? apparantly its a just a cheap korean keyboard thats easy to replace and has minor benefits such as being quiet and such | ||
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
But don't be stupid if it will help you get one rank higher. It simply won't. Same goes for the mouse. I have DeathAdder, but prefer 10000 times the mx5xx. Why i'm still using deathadder ? Cauz it looks cool and i don't really play bw much anymore. Getting the korean keyboard may help you but only for serious gamers that have small hands (ie can't ctrl 890 with only 1 hand or use the right ctrl which korean's keyboard mostly don't have it). Hope it helps. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On December 06 2008 18:36 RaiZ wrote: Getting the korean keyboard may help you but only for serious gamers that have small hands (ie can't ctrl 890 with only 1 hand or use the right ctrl which korean's keyboard mostly don't have it). Hope it helps. Ctrl 890 is possible with one hand? :O | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On December 06 2008 16:21 geno wrote: I didn't know the Deathadder was a team-up deal with Microsoft, I can't find that info on its page anywhere. Team-up might not be the right term. They teamed up for the (Microsoft branded) Habu, as you know. Somewhere in that arrangement, Razer got the right to use the shape and did so on the Deathadder. The DeathAdder is by far larger than the Diamondback and the Copperhead and resembles products from the Microsoft Explorer series (the MS IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0, to be exact), especially with the rear part design. This is not surprising as I’ll explain in the section about the Microsoft Habu. ... After a detailed description of the Razer DeathAdder above there is little I can add about the Habu because the two mice are identical in terms of ergonomics. By the way, the specification and photograph of the device are enough to realize the contribution of each company to the end product: it is in fact a Razer Copperhead in the case of the Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0. -Quoted from here, and here. comparison shots | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
Anyways that black dt35 looks kickass,I guess its hard to find outside korea | ||
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Xusneb
Canada612 Posts
On December 06 2008 04:05 Hyperionnn wrote: Bisu is playing terran (his ex-race) during warmup lol. Yea and it appears to be vulture micro. Maybe TvP to find weaknesses? :D Anyways, cool post. Seems like all progamers use pretty much the same keyboard and mouse. So I guess we can rule out that the equipment is what separates a bonjwa from a scrub | ||
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Lq_ fAn
Lithuania154 Posts
maybe in habu there not microsoft lazer but that what they call 3g or smthg | ||
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Wurzelbrumpft
Germany471 Posts
wasnt there a thread here not too long ago someone wanted to order that keyboard for 80 dollars or something. i have one of those at home, there is absolutely zero difference to my shitty microsoft keyboard that came with the computer. pros use it because they have 400 apm and play 10 hours a day. its clunky and sturdy and easily replaceable. | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
For the best input devices for Starcraft, I'd certainly put more weight in what the pros use than anything some random schlub like me would say. But there are reasons sometimes to use something else, and that something else is hopefully not going to suck for Starcraft there is absolutely zero difference to my shitty microsoft keyboard Pretty much agreed about the glowing stuff and extra keys on keyboards. Which is why, if I splurged on a "gamer" keyboard I'd get the Steelseries 7g I mentioned earlier. Nothing extra there. So why bother with it instead of a cheapy Microsoft KB? Try pressing, for example, q-w-a-s at the same time on yours. Not going to happen. There are very very few keyboards that can handle any combo of keys you throw at it. 7g is one. The Filco Majestouch FKBN104M/EB is another. I believe another is the Topre Realforce ML0100. That's pretty much all I can find. They're all rated for 50 million keystrokes and up. All of these are pretty plain looking (and the Topre has no Win key), but expensive. They're also hard to order from the US, except for the 7g. Stepping down some, there's also the Raptor K1 which claims to have it as well, though in practice its USB interface limits it to 6 at once. Razer's Tarantula is similar with it's anti-ghosting, but is still limited by USB. To me these are your standard blingy gaming KBs and I don't think I'd bother. Backlit keys would be nice for darkened rooms, but the added complexity is not necessarily a good thing. For darkened rooms I bring a headlamp lol Anyway, full n-key rollover is not needed/wanted/missed by most people. You don't really need it for Starcraft. So unless you are doing something else with it where you would want that feature, it totally makes sense to go with a standard layout cheaper keyboard. Obviously the pros feel that way. razer and razer optic and lazer is bullshit esreality disagrees. At least, depending on which of Razer's mouses you go for. Check the graphs and see why I got the Deathadder (which did admittedly have some problems before some firmware updates). Super fast tracking speed isn't as necessary for Starcraft of course, but as with my keyboards I consider that Starcraft isn't the only game I play (I do a lot of FPS). Others will obviously differ. Anyway, there's why I'd consider a more expensive KB. For pure Starcraft, don't bother. That's about all i can add to this thread. | ||
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Nye
Italy13 Posts
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
 too bad my laptop is GAY | ||
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B-Roll
United States403 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On January 04 2009 18:40 B-Roll wrote: anyone know were to get the cord holder ( like the one bisu has), mine is always getting in my way. http://www.mousebungee.com/ | ||
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CapO
United States1615 Posts
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Empyrean
16992 Posts
As for keyboard, I use the laptop keyboard that comes with the Thinkpad T61. It's excellent, honestly. Pretty much the gold-standard of laptop keyboards. One little thing that bothers me is that the Fn key is on the far left, then the Ctrl, so for the first few weeks I had it, I kept on trying to hotkey things with my Function key. Annoying. I've since gotten used to it, and honestly, the keyboard is great. | ||
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Loser777
1931 Posts
It was $60. | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
mine is IBM model M , made in USA , 1995 not even got windows keys once you've tried the best , you won't use those cheap chinese keyboards ever again looking at the DT-35 there i believe a reason it is popular is the weight of thing seems to come in at 1.3kg which is quite heavy for a new keyboard it's alot easier to punch buttons faster when your keyboard doesnt move around the desk (can be a problem for sub 1kg keyboards) | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
On December 09 2008 15:33 MamiyaOtaru wrote: TL;DR: For the best input devices for Starcraft, I'd certainly put more weight in what the pros use than anything some random schlub like me would say. But there are reasons sometimes to use something else, and that something else is hopefully not going to suck for Starcraft Pretty much agreed about the glowing stuff and extra keys on keyboards. Which is why, if I splurged on a "gamer" keyboard I'd get the Steelseries 7g I mentioned earlier. Nothing extra there. So why bother with it instead of a cheapy Microsoft KB? Try pressing, for example, q-w-a-s at the same time on yours. Not going to happen. There are very very few keyboards that can handle any combo of keys you throw at it. 7g is one. The Filco Majestouch FKBN104M/EB is another. I believe another is the Topre Realforce ML0100. That's pretty much all I can find. They're all rated for 50 million keystrokes and up. All of these are pretty plain looking (and the Topre has no Win key), but expensive. They're also hard to order from the US, except for the 7g. Stepping down some, there's also the Raptor K1 which claims to have it as well, though in practice its USB interface limits it to 6 at once. Razer's Tarantula is similar with it's anti-ghosting, but is still limited by USB. To me these are your standard blingy gaming KBs and I don't think I'd bother. Backlit keys would be nice for darkened rooms, but the added complexity is not necessarily a good thing. For darkened rooms I bring a headlamp lol Anyway, full n-key rollover is not needed/wanted/missed by most people. You don't really need it for Starcraft. So unless you are doing something else with it where you would want that feature, it totally makes sense to go with a standard layout cheaper keyboard. Obviously the pros feel that way. The Samsung DT-35 only accepts a two keypresses at any one moment. The DT35 sucks ass for non-SC gaming. However, That's probably an advantage for SC | ||
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Pieguy314
Canada262 Posts
![[image loading]](http://images.techtree.com/ttimages/story/68595_rw_mswireddesktop500_full_keyboard.jpg) and I use a logitech G5 as my mouse. ![[image loading]](http://www.tbcweb.com/images/m_g5.jpg) | ||
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OmgIRok
Taiwan2699 Posts
mistaking bisu as stork.... thats a big no no. i think some punishment needs to be dealt | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
On January 08 2009 12:35 pubbanana wrote: They look like KeSPA Jean Pads. Savior is using a GameTV Pad (Game/GhemTV was a game network with their own Starleague) thanks! | ||
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
On January 08 2009 13:31 anotak wrote: The Samsung DT-35 only accepts a two keypresses at any one moment. The DT35 sucks ass for non-SC gaming. However, That's probably an advantage for SC lol I had no idea other keyboards didn't respond to several clicks at once. I have the logitech g15 and it works Coolio Now I just need to find something to do with the extra 18 programmable "G keys". | ||
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FREEloss_ca
Canada603 Posts
As for my keyboard I use a peice of shit HP keyboard that came free with my computer; it gets the job done. | ||
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fearus
China2164 Posts
On January 08 2009 14:40 selboN wrote: lol I had no idea other keyboards didn't respond to several clicks at once. I have the logitech g15 and it works Coolio Now I just need to find something to do with the extra 18 programmable "G keys".Its soo obvious what you should program those keys to!! | ||
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Perguvious
United States1783 Posts
Owned. x( | ||
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MuR)Ernu
Finland768 Posts
On January 08 2009 13:31 anotak wrote: The Samsung DT-35 only accepts a two keypresses at any one moment. The DT35 sucks ass for non-SC gaming. However, That's probably an advantage for SC I have a hard time believing that. Mostly because CTRL+ALT+DEL. Can you still use it? Or does it give Ctrl+alt+del and exception? | ||
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