EPT[PL] Lineups - Week 6, 08-09 Round 1 - Page 2
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clazziquai
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SimonB
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Senx
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![[image loading]](http://image.fighterforum.com/showImage.asp?realFile=FFNEWS20070405224343001.JPG) YEAH YOU! | ||
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Realpenguin
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OMG YEAH OOV MACRO THAT SHIT UP | ||
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G5
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Deleted User 31060
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On November 13 2008 23:42 Realpenguin wrote: OMG YEAH OOV MACRO THAT SHIT UP looool | ||
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NovaTheFeared
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thunk
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riptide
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On November 14 2008 00:05 thunk wrote: SKT1's line up must be as thin as floss for iloveOov to get in on 2 weeks of practice. oov eats practice | ||
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
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imDerek
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LonelyMargarita
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On November 13 2008 18:17 Velr wrote: ... did not even notice this until now... sick :D... waiting vor possible oov/boxer/nada/july/xellos-games :D... Get da oldschool going. All we need now to get things back to the good times is return of the Mantoss and real Yellow :p. This is why I hate the new rule this season. Since you need to send 1 of each race in the first 4 matches, the old schoolers (who are not at the top of the team) basically never get to play. Take CJ. Strong zerg team, mid-range terran, slumping toss at the moment. They HAVE to send Much or Movie for a game, which is likely a loss, plus they can only send 2 of their zergs, so they have to hope for the terran to win. That means they really have no choice but their top terran every time, Iris. If they could send 2 zergs and 2 terrans or 3 zergs and a terran, they could obviously risk sending XellOs, assuming the other 3 would get the win. But with the new rule, they will send sAviOr, EffOrt, Iris, and Much/Movie basically every time, unless someone is training for individual leagues (e.g. no sAviOr on Saturday). It also tends to lend itself to more of the same matchups on each specific map. Each night usually ends up 3/4 to 4/4 mirrors, or no mirrors. Whereas under the old system you could risk sending out another terran on a usually non-terran map to snipe a zerg or toss, you cannot take that terran away from one of the terran maps. If there are no mirrors, it will be the same matchups, like Raid Assault: ZvZ on mirror night, TvZ on non-mirror night. Maps always did tend to have a couple match-ups most of the time, but now there is even more incentive to only send a certain race or matchup to each map. | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 14 2008 02:25 LonelyMargarita wrote: This is why I hate the new rule this season. Since you need to send 1 of each race in the first 4 matches, the old schoolers (who are not at the top of the team) basically never get to play. Take CJ. Strong zerg team, mid-range terran, slumping toss at the moment. They HAVE to send Much or Movie for a game, which is likely a loss, plus they can only send 2 of their zergs, so they have to hope for the terran to win. That means they really have no choice but their top terran every time, Iris. If they could send 2 zergs and 2 terrans or 3 zergs and a terran, they could obviously risk sending XellOs, assuming the other 3 would get the win. But with the new rule, they will send sAviOr, EffOrt, Iris, and Much/Movie basically every time, unless someone is training for individual leagues (e.g. no sAviOr on Saturday). Sorry, but as a CJ fan you cannot blame the new rules on your team's problems. If anything, CJ has a fairly balanced team with Much, Iris, and Memory to support its zergs. The rules hurt all teams. KTF has to send out lame tosses like Lucifer and Tempest. Lecaf the same with the amazing Backho. Sparkyz has freaking Chalrenge. And you think CJ has it tough with Much!? Samsung also has to deal with absolutely fresh nobodies to put for its zegs. You think anyone has heard of by.great or juni before? | ||
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LonelyMargarita
1845 Posts
On November 14 2008 02:50 baubo wrote: Sorry, but as a CJ fan you cannot blame the new rules on your team's problems. If anything, CJ has a fairly balanced team with Much, Iris, and Memory to support its zergs. Please read my post. I never said anything about it hurting my team. I made 2 points, and that was neither one of them. | ||
p4NDemik
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On November 14 2008 02:50 baubo wrote: Sorry, but as a CJ fan you cannot blame the new rules on your team's problems. If anything, CJ has a fairly balanced team with Much, Iris, and Memory to support its zergs. The rules hurt all teams. KTF has to send out lame tosses like Lucifer and Tempest. Lecaf the same with the amazing Backho. Sparkyz has freaking Chalrenge. And you think CJ has it tough with Much!? Samsung also has to deal with absolutely fresh nobodies to put for its zegs. You think anyone has heard of by.great or juni before? by.great is destroying shit this season...top 10 record in PL. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the team most screwed by the new rules has been SK T1, simply because they lack any good Zergs or Terrans all of a sudden. Canata can't win, Midas just totally fell of the map after getting destroyed by BeSt in the OSL...that leaves us with oov. The Zergs, well, I don't even have to go into that. OK, let's do some stat searching:  BeSt 8-3 (2nd in PL)Bisu 4-0 (8th in PL) by.fantasy 5-4 (OK he's not total garbage)Rest of the team: 1-17 HOLY WTF | ||
SilverskY
Korea (South)3086 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 14 2008 02:52 LonelyMargarita wrote: Please read my post. I never said anything about it hurting my team. I made 2 points, and that was neither one of them. I don't see much of what you're saying. For the first point, the number of new players are rising, not lowering, because teams are forced to use players of their weakest race(some of which I mentioned). For the second point, maps causing mirror matchups is not a new thing this year. Not unless you haven't seen enough of TvTs maps like wuthering heights last season. | ||
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Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
On November 14 2008 02:58 jwd241224 wrote: by.great is destroying shit this season...top 10 record in PL. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the team most screwed by the new rules has been SK T1, simply because they lack any good Zergs or Terrans all of a sudden. Canata can't win, Midas just totally fell of the map after getting destroyed by BeSt in the OSL...that leaves us with oov. The Zergs, well, I don't even have to go into that. OK, let's do some stat searching: BeSt 8-3 (2nd in PL)Bisu 4-0 (8th in PL)by.fantasy 5-4 (OK he's not total garbage)Rest of the team: 1-17 HOLY WTF If you're saying that SKT is being hurt the most by the new rules, you're not going out on a limb at all. Anyway, I just wanted to point out something. Lecaf, despite having a really good set of 4 or 5 top players (at least relative to other teams, try finding somebody better than BackHo that's forced to play every day), have nobody else. All of their other Zerg (other than JD) and Protoss players are unbearably horrible. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 14 2008 02:50 baubo wrote: by.great is REALLY fuckin goodSorry, but as a CJ fan you cannot blame the new rules on your team's problems. If anything, CJ has a fairly balanced team with Much, Iris, and Memory to support its zergs. The rules hurt all teams. KTF has to send out lame tosses like Lucifer and Tempest. Lecaf the same with the amazing Backho. Sparkyz has freaking Chalrenge. And you think CJ has it tough with Much!? Samsung also has to deal with absolutely fresh nobodies to put for its zegs. You think anyone has heard of by.great or juni before? but ya the rule hurts alot of teams and doesnt really change much in terms of match quality. the "cant send same race on a map 2 matches in a row" rule would have been way way way better to implement imo. | ||
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