[PL] Lineups - Week 6, 08-09 Round 1 - Page 3

On November 14 2008 02:25 LonelyMargarita wrote:


This is why I hate the new rule this season. Since you need to send 1 of each race in the first 4 matches, the old schoolers (who are not at the top of the team) basically never get to play. Take CJ. Strong zerg team, mid-range terran, slumping toss at the moment. They HAVE to send Much or Movie for a game, which is likely a loss, plus they can only send 2 of their zergs, so they have to hope for the terran to win. That means they really have no choice but their top terran every time, Iris. If they could send 2 zergs and 2 terrans or 3 zergs and a terran, they could obviously risk sending XellOs, assuming the other 3 would get the win. But with the new rule, they will send sAviOr, EffOrt, Iris, and Much/Movie basically every time, unless someone is training for individual leagues (e.g. no sAviOr on Saturday).

It also tends to lend itself to more of the same matchups on each specific map. Each night usually ends up 3/4 to 4/4 mirrors, or no mirrors. Whereas under the old system you could risk sending out another terran on a usually non-terran map to snipe a zerg or toss, you cannot take that terran away from one of the terran maps. If there are no mirrors, it will be the same matchups, like Raid Assault: ZvZ on mirror night, TvZ on non-mirror night. Maps always did tend to have a couple match-ups most of the time, but now there is even more incentive to only send a certain race or matchup to each map.

On November 14 2008 03:04 Sunyveil wrote:If you're saying that SKT is being hurt the most by the new rules, you're not going out on a limb at all.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out something. Lecaf, despite having a really good set of 4 or 5 top players (at least relative to other teams, try finding somebody better than BackHo that's forced to play every day), have nobody else. All of their other Zerg (other than JD) and Protoss players are unbearably horrible.

On November 14 2008 10:00 pachi wrote:
Playoffs are in a year. This round is only a fifth of the proleague season.

On November 14 2008 02:58 jwd241224 wrote:


by.great is destroying shit this season...top 10 record in PL. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the team most screwed by the new rules has been SK T1, simply because they lack any good Zergs or Terrans all of a sudden. Canata can't win, Midas just totally fell of the map after getting destroyed by BeSt in the OSL...that leaves us with oov. The Zergs, well, I don't even have to go into that.

On November 14 2008 03:41 mog87 wrote:
I'd just like to point out Tempest isn't garbage. Hes pretty fun to watch because hell either play great like vs Best or hilariously like vs Xellos on GOMTV(game 2 was hilarious, and he still won the set).
And for skt1 midas will return to form as usual, and canata will win TvTs as usual.

On November 14 2008 02:58 jwd241224 wrote:


by.great is destroying shit this season...top 10 record in PL. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the team most screwed by the new rules has been SK T1, simply because they lack any good Zergs or Terrans all of a sudden. Canata can't win, Midas just totally fell of the map after getting destroyed by BeSt in the OSL...that leaves us with oov. The Zergs, well, I don't even have to go into that.

OK, let's do some stat searching:

BeSt 8-3 (2nd in PL)
Bisu 4-0 (8th in PL)

by.fantasy 5-4 (OK he's not total garbage)

Rest of the team: 1-17 HOLY WTF

On November 13 2008 17:30 baubo wrote:
Man, T1 is really pulling out all the stops. On a team that only needs to send one terran out per match(since they can send two protosses) and has Canata, Fantasy, and Midas... they have Oov playing? That just seems unreal. Either Oov is now really good, or he has absolutely no confidence in his terrans.