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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 16 2008 21:04 GMT
#321
On September 09 2008 19:09 Elsi wrote:
IdrA, in the CJ team tournament, who finished 1st and did you lose all your games or did you win some?

Cheers


I want to know this too :O
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Krigstar
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden77 Posts
September 16 2008 22:06 GMT
#322
They obviously more often say it cause it's considered rude to be arrogant.

My oversimplified, extremely generalized and slightly america-mockingly interpretation is this:

Question: Who are allowed to talk like they are the best in starcraft?

Korean: The starleague champion.
Non-American: Koreans.
American: We talk before, after and during games, no matter the results.

ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
September 16 2008 23:43 GMT
#323
On September 17 2008 06:02 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2008 18:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 04 2008 17:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 04 2008 14:15 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 17:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.


It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees.

Maybe, but lots of people agree with the viewpoint that I stated. I was just trying to explain why some people thought he was too cocky. I don't care if it was a realistic assessment or not, it was rude in my opinion. If you look in this thread, the WCG USA National Finals, you can see that many people put Yosh ahead of Idra, some people put Nony in front of Idra, etc. It's not right to be completely disregarding opinions of others, "I'm definitely the favorite".


Ok, IdrA IS definitely the favourite to win WCG USA. This is nothing against ANY of the players competing, but simply because some people think Nony or Yosh are more likely to win doesn't make that accurate. I don't see how "disregarding their opinion" comes into it. Those people are wrong.


Well, Idra is maybe very good but saying "I am definitly the best" sucks. I'm sure if you ask Jaedong if he is the best player in the world, he will start to tell you about other good players like Flash or Best. That's called humility, and I guess it's somehow necessary to become great.

Imo, laking that much humility is a very, very bad start to become a champion.


About being modest, or having humility, do people say it to sound good or do they really think that? just curious

I think there are plenty of people out there that don't like arrogance.
MC Fighting!~
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
September 16 2008 23:58 GMT
#324
why is everyone always such a romanian about american player's "bm"
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
September 17 2008 12:26 GMT
#325
New video http://www.scforall.com/sctv/sc_tv01.asp?mNum=s01

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jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
September 17 2008 12:29 GMT
#326
mohommed ali was a cocky guy wasnt he?

esport, real sport, w/e
if you're good, you're good.
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-17 12:40:27
September 17 2008 12:40 GMT
#327
ali had charisma and a cool history, also he back his shit up and ye well he is american so it was expected anyways
Bergkamp ftw!
ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-17 13:30:03
September 17 2008 13:26 GMT
#328
On September 17 2008 21:29 jjun212 wrote:
mohommed ali was a cocky guy wasnt he?

esport, real sport, w/e
if you're good, you're good.


dude you cannot compare idra to ALI

ALI was a champion, and he was playful cocky.

idra is just seriously cocky

IMO you only have the "right" to boast if you can back it up,
idra cannot back up that he is the best foreigner at the moment, he didn't even get anywhere in the TSL when he was pinned up against the best foreigners!

and even then humility makes the better champion.
go OVERSKY MODE!
n3m0
Profile Joined January 2007
Portugal247 Posts
September 17 2008 13:45 GMT
#329
I think ray speaks the truth :p Just look @ José Mourinho now Internazionale coach, he's the cockiest soccer coach i've ever seen but he can back it up : D
Former WGT Clan League Admin - Former Portugal A team manager - Former member of MgZ) / iG. / LRM) - Starcraft Broodwar
iloveoil
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway171 Posts
September 17 2008 13:48 GMT
#330
On September 17 2008 21:29 jjun212 wrote:
mohommed ali was a cocky guy wasnt he?

esport, real sport, w/e
if you're good, you're good.


he's not good ;p he's a publicity stunt
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
September 17 2008 14:12 GMT
#331
Lol he's not good? He's only cocky in context of the foreigner scene, and he's definitely good there. One of the best.

He got to ro16 in TSL and ran into a very tough opponent in white-ra. If you go by that then you can say that Mondragon didn't get anywhere, either. The TSL was months ago as well.
Fad-D
Profile Joined September 2005
United Kingdom42 Posts
September 17 2008 14:22 GMT
#332
mate if i was in cj i would so bum xellos and savior, they wud be my new best friends, i think idra should best-befriend them, u wud have the ultimate badass crew and be a king in korea, wherever you go a path made of gold would be laid before you along with a long line of hot groupies.
sAviOr : What is a "yawn" rape
iloveoil
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway171 Posts
September 17 2008 14:27 GMT
#333
wow man, ro16, thats p. hardcore

V6
Profile Joined February 2008
147 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-17 14:38:30
September 17 2008 14:35 GMT
#334
I will never cheer for that dude ever! Even if I WANT TOOOO cheer for the foreigner, I just cant, his boring game style and his personality really buggs me. So sad : (

It's ok to flame me.

But I still hope he make it far so I can cheer for everyone he play.
stuzH
Profile Joined September 2011
United States56 Posts
December 17 2012 18:32 GMT
#335
I hope he enjoys his stay before going to EG

User was temp banned for this post.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 17 2012 18:35 GMT
#336
lol what a necro.
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