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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
September 02 2008 02:23 GMT
#1
in an effort to spread foreigners amongst the proteams, IdrA has been sent to CJ Entus from eSTRO. hes quite excited about the move, and its really a big step in the right direction for foreigners in korea, imo.

Interview about the move and some other controversial stuff!

Discuss.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
September 02 2008 02:25 GMT
#2
Wow! This is big news! I think IdrA will have a much better opportunity to grow at CJ, but I'm kind of worried he'll have a harder time making friends, I mean I bet less of the CJ players/staff know English.
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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
September 02 2008 02:26 GMT
#3
He got his pro license??
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bioboyAT
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria1763 Posts
September 02 2008 02:26 GMT
#4
i guess not, he didn't win a courage tournament yet, right ?
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
September 02 2008 02:26 GMT
#5
Wow =O

goodluck IdrA :D
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
September 02 2008 02:27 GMT
#6
idra gonna come back all stonefaced killer and stuff.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
September 02 2008 02:27 GMT
#7
O.O according to the interview, he got his pro license! Awesome!
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pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
September 02 2008 02:27 GMT
#8
Will he have the CJ face now? I definitely think he will do better at CJ though. Will Xellos teach him the ways of the perfect terran? :D
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11579 Posts
September 02 2008 02:28 GMT
#9
IdrA and Sea, really looking good for TL!
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
September 02 2008 02:30 GMT
#10
Unless I see Idra with a C(-_-)J face he ain't going anywhere!

p.s. send me a shit if I don't win one nig <3.

Lal :D
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
September 02 2008 02:31 GMT
#11
LOL this interview is basically huge flamebait.
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Revolutionary
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada38 Posts
September 02 2008 02:36 GMT
#12
^ so true
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
September 02 2008 02:37 GMT
#13
YEA GREG!!! NICE!!!!! YOUR FUCKING AWSOME!!!
I'm like, the coolest
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
September 02 2008 02:37 GMT
#14
Wow. Plenty of top terrans to teach Idra some stuff. Holy fuck.
I know where my towel is.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
September 02 2008 02:38 GMT
#15
what in the FUCK?
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Wabe
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3 Posts
September 02 2008 02:38 GMT
#16
wow awesome
TheNikeYork
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States389 Posts
September 02 2008 02:38 GMT
#17
I'd have to say it's a pretty good step for foreigners in the pro-scene. Good job Idra.
Everyone knows cucumbers have terrible souls
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
September 02 2008 02:38 GMT
#18
That is some pretty awesome news :D. Good luck at CJ IdrA, keep learning and sticiking with it we all support you.

Video was pretty cool too. "Whos better Germany or Sweden?" "Who cares?!" <-- i lol'd
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
September 02 2008 02:38 GMT
#19
idra, please order more CJ shirts for TL.net, we'll love you even more than we already do for this...

BTW: seriously, good luck.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 02 2008 02:38 GMT
#20
FUCK YEAH

IdrA already got the CJ face bitches!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
September 02 2008 02:40 GMT
#21
Yeah, very cool for him. I hope he takes this opportunity.
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
September 02 2008 02:41 GMT
#22
CJ has such a stacked lineup so I'm not holding out too much hope of Idra playing in proleague this season, but we can hope.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
September 02 2008 02:44 GMT
#23
On September 02 2008 11:41 ShadowDrgn wrote:
CJ has such a stacked lineup so I'm not holding out too much hope of Idra playing in proleague this season, but we can hope.

We can have a realistic hope of him playing in minor leagues.
Fuck KeSPA.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 02 2008 02:46 GMT
#24
TLPD updated! Need a picture of Greg in a CJ uniform!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
BigBucketz
Profile Joined August 2008
30 Posts
September 02 2008 02:48 GMT
#25
In the first minute of the interview I couldn't hear any motivation...

Anyhow go IdrA!
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MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 02 2008 02:53 GMT
#26
lol @ calling Poland and Germany dumb.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
September 02 2008 02:53 GMT
#27
FUCKING AWESOME
Commentator
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
September 02 2008 02:54 GMT
#28
Wow awesome.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
September 02 2008 03:01 GMT
#29
wow THATS CRAZY
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OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
September 02 2008 03:04 GMT
#30
Wow. That's a pretty amazing opportunity. Nice interview.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 02 2008 03:04 GMT
#31
Best news in ages GREG IS FREEEEEE
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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2898 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 03:06:01
September 02 2008 03:04 GMT
#32
he got his pro license from eStrO

They said if he went 50/50 in the in-house tourney (everyone plays everyone), they would give him a pro license. He accomplished this and didn't have to go through courage. (I believe)

Oh and of course. Congrats Greg. God speed~
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
September 02 2008 03:04 GMT
#33
What do eSTRO get in return btw? :O
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 03:08:30
September 02 2008 03:08 GMT
#34
On September 02 2008 12:04 GTR-2-Go wrote:
What do eSTRO get in return btw? :O


Probably some amateur who has nowhere near the amount of charm and bold sex appeal of IdrA
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
September 02 2008 03:09 GMT
#35
On September 02 2008 12:04 GTR-2-Go wrote:
What do eSTRO get in return btw? :O


Probably some cash considerations and a bag of peanuts.
God Bless
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
September 02 2008 03:09 GMT
#36
I couldn't watch more than a minute of the interview...

Least likeable progamer in Korea? It's pretty close.
MC Fighting!~
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
September 02 2008 03:09 GMT
#37
On September 02 2008 11:23 Artosis wrote:
in an effort to spread foreigners amongst the proteams, IdrA has been sent to CJ Entus from eSTRO. hes quite excited about the move, and its really a big step in the right direction for foreigners in korea, imo.

Interview about the move and some other controversial stuff!

Discuss.
WOW. This is GREAT news for Idra, I got to be frank, he could only rise so far under Estro. But, I have to say, Idra will get a lot less game time early into his career, and moving into a totally new environment may be detrimental to his morale. I have faith in Idra though, and CJ, gogo!
Can you dig it?
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
September 02 2008 03:11 GMT
#38
Good for idra!
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
September 02 2008 03:11 GMT
#39
On September 02 2008 11:26 bioboyAT wrote:
i guess not, he didn't win a courage tournament yet, right ?


You can be handed out a license from a team.
FlameD[TOp]
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada247 Posts
September 02 2008 03:14 GMT
#40
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
September 02 2008 03:19 GMT
#41
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/
Why are you here?
MC Fighting!~
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
September 02 2008 03:19 GMT
#42
So I take it he is trying to burn any bridges he can.

He needs to work on his on-air personality. He seemed totally drained or tired or something. Didnt hear any motivation in his vioce. His over the top douche-baggery is going to strengthen people's believe that americans are arrogant douches.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
September 02 2008 03:21 GMT
#43
hes practicing 12 hours a day, of course he has no energy, of course hes drained and tired.
Can you dig it?
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7228 Posts
September 02 2008 03:21 GMT
#44
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/



Its what he wants to do, its not like he cant come back and go to a Community College for a year or 2 (dunno what is current academic prognosis looks like just) then go to a university.

He gets to experience another culture and go for something that he really wants to do, more power to him.

however if played bw 12 hrs a day id literally murder myself. You have to REALLY like the game to do that, 12 hrs a day of just about anything has to make it miserable.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
TheNikeYork
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States389 Posts
September 02 2008 03:22 GMT
#45
On September 02 2008 12:21 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/



Its what he wants to do, its not like he cant come back and go to a Community College for a year or 2 (dunno what is current academic prognosis looks like just) then go to a university.

He gets to experience another culture and go for something that he really wants to do, more power to him.

however if played bw 12 hrs a day id literally murder myself. You have to REALLY like the game to do that, 12 hrs a day of just about anything has to make it miserable.


That's why it's called a job.
Everyone knows cucumbers have terrible souls
FlameD[TOp]
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada247 Posts
September 02 2008 03:23 GMT
#46
On September 02 2008 12:19 Phoned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/
Why are you here?


I want to know the reasoning why he's in korea.

G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2898 Posts
September 02 2008 03:24 GMT
#47
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/


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404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
September 02 2008 03:24 GMT
#48
This is amazing. Grats to idra. Also, best interview yet. "Sweden or Germany?" "Who cares?"
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7228 Posts
September 02 2008 03:25 GMT
#49
On September 02 2008 12:22 TheNikeYork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 12:21 Sadist wrote:
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/



Its what he wants to do, its not like he cant come back and go to a Community College for a year or 2 (dunno what is current academic prognosis looks like just) then go to a university.

He gets to experience another culture and go for something that he really wants to do, more power to him.

however if played bw 12 hrs a day id literally murder myself. You have to REALLY like the game to do that, 12 hrs a day of just about anything has to make it miserable.


That's why it's called a job.



12 hrs a day isnt a normal workday for most people. Not to mention hes doing it everyday (maybe he gets weekends off?) Theres no way in hell I could do that =-)
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 02 2008 03:27 GMT
#50
How does that help spread foriegners to other teams if there are no other foriengers out there, it just moves him to a different team. But good luck and congrats!
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
September 02 2008 03:28 GMT
#51
Hey, can anyone link me to a video/replay of Idra vs Stork, I've never seen it.

to the person above me, I presume Estro is going to pick some foreigners up through the spirit tournie, and this ensures that all the foreigners arent clustered in one team.
Can you dig it?
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
September 02 2008 03:29 GMT
#52
Omg... He's with savior in the same house omgomgomgogmogmgomgomg *cum
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 02 2008 03:30 GMT
#53
On September 02 2008 11:26 DamageControL wrote:
He got his pro license??


estro made an exception for him before he moved to cj

he should be a progamer and not have to do courage anymore I think
(pretty sure it was the same thing done for pj/lx/draco)
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OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
September 02 2008 03:32 GMT
#54
On September 02 2008 12:28 ScarFace wrote:
Hey, can anyone link me to a video/replay of Idra vs Stork, I've never seen it.

to the person above me, I presume Estro is going to pick some foreigners up through the spirit tournie, and this ensures that all the foreigners arent clustered in one team.


http://fighterreplays.com/starcraft/replays/d87392
sMi.SyMPhOnY
Profile Joined December 2006
United States226 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 03:35:13
September 02 2008 03:32 GMT
#55
i wish we could see more ofhis gameplay. i still haven't, and i would like to see how much he's improved.
:)
Tomed
Profile Joined August 2005
United States176 Posts
September 02 2008 03:33 GMT
#56
That was an incredibly awkward interview.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
September 02 2008 03:34 GMT
#57
On September 02 2008 12:23 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 12:19 Phoned wrote:
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/
Why are you here?


I want to know the reasoning why he's in korea.



He didn't like his chances at the TeamLiquid CJ Shirt Lottery, so he took matters into his own hands.
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 03:38:08
September 02 2008 03:35 GMT
#58
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/

lol who the fuck are you? I hope you get banned.. what humors me is that you would say this on the 1# sc progaming site for foreigners in the world
You can't fight the feeling.
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
September 02 2008 03:41 GMT
#59
i think pro teams can only hand out freebie licenses like twice per season or something? so i'm glad estro sacrificed one of their licenses for idra

so long has CJ has some staff that speak english it should be ok for idra. hopefully he likes the move.

GL idra
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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
September 02 2008 03:42 GMT
#60
bless him but he's probably not the most charismatic ambassador for foreign starcraft. this is great news though, I hope he transitions between houses well and doesn't get too lonely in the new environment.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 03:44:13
September 02 2008 03:43 GMT
#61
Wowzers. That's pretty cool. I'm kinda waiting for an official notice.

Edit:

Idra: I was told not to talk about it, until they've made a official announcement.
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EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
September 02 2008 03:49 GMT
#62
greg is awsomezorz gj man!
I'm like, the coolest
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
September 02 2008 03:52 GMT
#63
Woot CJ My favorite team <3. GO IDRA!!
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
September 02 2008 03:54 GMT
#64
dam artosis you make me feel gay the way your voice draws me in
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Alizee-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States845 Posts
September 02 2008 03:54 GMT
#65
On September 02 2008 11:30 Nyovne wrote:
Unless I see Idra with a C(-_-)J face he ain't going anywhere!

p.s. send me a shit if I don't win one nig <3.

Lal :D


Typo of the year
Strength behind the Pride
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
September 02 2008 03:54 GMT
#66
Korean News Article
http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue
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operwolf
Profile Joined April 2008
United States324 Posts
September 02 2008 03:57 GMT
#67
lol @ "sharing"
He'll end up dead, because he'll die.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
September 02 2008 03:59 GMT
#68
Grats to him, Wish him the best
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
September 02 2008 04:00 GMT
#69
This is going to be awesome! gl IdrA!
You can't fight the feeling.
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
September 02 2008 04:01 GMT
#70
Wow... Idra is finally a progammer :o but he is still a bit shy and nerd and can't develop a decent dialogue

anyway, gl hf
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sqwert
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States781 Posts
September 02 2008 04:09 GMT
#71
MA JAE YOON HWAITIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!!
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 02 2008 04:11 GMT
#72
Now I can wear my shirt with even more pride!

Fuck yes, CJ is the best team ever.
RIP Aaliyah
Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
September 02 2008 04:17 GMT
#73

That interview was hilarious. IdrA is so awesome.
GL to you Idra
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Astrogation
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States477 Posts
September 02 2008 04:17 GMT
#74
Germany or Sweden
"who cares?" lollllllllllllll
dream-_-
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1857 Posts
September 02 2008 04:18 GMT
#75
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/


fun?

money isnt the only thing you should base your career choice on =/
dream-_-
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1857 Posts
September 02 2008 04:27 GMT
#76
I like idra, but I really think he needs to work on being a little more.. charismatic, if he wants to stay in korea. He seems really unconfident and shy in all the interviews but his overpoliteness is cute ;p

Still its somewhat of a shame that he was chosen, NOT BECAUSE OF HIS SKILL I DONT KNOW HOW GOOD/BAD HE IS DONT GET THE WRONG IDEA(wanted to clarify for the flame happy idiots), but because he isnt the greatest representation of the foreign bw scene on a personal level.

He seems to be just sort of the standard stereotype of a nerdy usa bw gamer, although I suppose thats to be expected. Its a stereotype for a reason.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
September 02 2008 04:36 GMT
#77
Fuck yes!
Go the tiger!
Oh no
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
September 02 2008 04:37 GMT
#78
Is there a text version of this interview that is in english?

Can somebody please post it or translate:
On September 02 2008 12:54 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Korean News Article
http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue

eX-Corgh
Profile Joined October 2007
Russian Federation386 Posts
September 02 2008 04:38 GMT
#79
Idra looks like an average "hardcore" US computer gamer lol. Btw, not good interview at all.
Never give cheese to the Gorilla ^^
Unbelievable237
Profile Joined July 2008
Korea (South)78 Posts
September 02 2008 04:41 GMT
#80
Cool, good luck IdrA!!
지고나서 후회하지말자 - 임요환
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
September 02 2008 04:42 GMT
#81
WOW! CJ!

I hope there will be people for him to talk to like in eStro.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
September 02 2008 04:50 GMT
#82
congrats on the move! i hope you are successful
but+ Show Spoiler +
work on your interview skills as well as your gaming
more weight
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
September 02 2008 04:50 GMT
#83
That's awesome! CJ seems luck a much more um, professional team than estro.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
September 02 2008 04:51 GMT
#84
He'll get more confidant as the korean girls come rollin in.
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
September 02 2008 04:54 GMT
#85
now steall all the CJ shirt you can and send it back to the States Idra!
Xellos <3
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
September 02 2008 04:55 GMT
#86
On September 02 2008 12:54 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Korean News Article
http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue
PLEASE tell me what they're saying on the comments PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!1111
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
September 02 2008 04:56 GMT
#87
LoL, Artosis didn't have much to work with.
MC Fighting!~
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
September 02 2008 05:03 GMT
#88
On September 02 2008 13:55 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 12:54 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Korean News Article
http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue
PLEASE tell me what they're saying on the comments PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!1111


I'm curious too,
although its prolly like, rofl white boy rofl korea rofl fail.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 02 2008 05:05 GMT
#89
He's certainly improved a lot by going 50/50 in inhouse and getting his pro license. But "spreading foreigners out"??? There's only one foreigner in progaming and the last one was on ogn. Anyways congratulatons Idra hope to see you on TV soon.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 05:07:12
September 02 2008 05:06 GMT
#90
On September 02 2008 14:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
He's certainly improved a lot by going 50/50 in inhouse and getting his pro license. But "spreading foreigners out"??? There's only one foreigner in progaming and the last one was on ogn. Anyways congratulatons Idra hope to see you on TV soon.

Presumably (hopefully) this means Estro is going to recruit some other foreigner soon, since they seem the most inclined to do so.
hi19hi19
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States163 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 05:09:53
September 02 2008 05:07 GMT
#91
On September 02 2008 13:55 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 12:54 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Korean News Article
http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue
PLEASE tell me what they're saying on the comments PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!1111

A couple about him being 19 years old, though I can't tell why that's important from the context. One of them saying he's not the same as Draco because he can adapt or something like that. There's one comment about his nose, I think (lol) EDIT okay no, I'm dreaming ignore that one
A few are saying CJ is a better team in general, and there's a few saying it's a good move and that IdrA can grow.

That's what I gather, though I'm not that good at Korean yet.
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
September 02 2008 05:07 GMT
#92
B team?
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
September 02 2008 05:10 GMT
#93
[image loading]
I'm like, the coolest
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
September 02 2008 05:10 GMT
#94
HELL YEAH IDRA!
Ynot_Fighting
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States216 Posts
September 02 2008 05:11 GMT
#95
Ehh it's idra..
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
September 02 2008 05:32 GMT
#96
man i was expecting a Rick Roll or Bel Air or my facebook picture going into this thread

but I am really amazed, you can already see his -_- face going on
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 05:36:49
September 02 2008 05:35 GMT
#97
On September 02 2008 14:10 Machine[USA] wrote:
[image loading]



ROFL! has it really happened?
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 05:38:31
September 02 2008 05:38 GMT
#98
On September 02 2008 14:35 ilbh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 14:10 Machine[USA] wrote:
[image loading]



ROFL! has it really happened?

It's a parody.

Go Idra! Congrats!
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
September 02 2008 05:39 GMT
#99
Congradulations Idra. I'm wondering if he's going to go on that workshop with the other progamers. Seriously, how awesome would it be to be in the same room as Ma Jae Yoon.
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
September 02 2008 05:40 GMT
#100
wow good for idra

he'll get to know the secrets of the art of DDRing from Xellos :p
fromis_9 enjoyer
NeverTheEndlessWiz
Profile Joined November 2003
Singapore827 Posts
September 02 2008 05:47 GMT
#101
Excellent move. The only problem seems to be language, but anyone knows who in CJ can speak english? Xellos/Savior maybe?
Retired Brood War player / WCG SG Top 8 for 2002, 2003, 2004, retired, then made minor comeback to Top 8 at 2008. 2009 = bleh xD
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
September 02 2008 05:47 GMT
#102
On September 02 2008 14:40 lxginverse wrote:
wow good for idra

he'll get to know the secrets of the art of DDRing from Xellos :p

he'll put that "stronger lower right arm" that Daniel Lee talks about to good use :o
rofl

gj though IdrA, you're my favorite player!! gl
Juanpe
Profile Joined May 2008
Uruguay283 Posts
September 02 2008 05:48 GMT
#103
Wtf new cleaning service members for CJ?

[image loading]
C+ rank Terran training harder every day to be like ChinaTTTT :D~ Lee Jae Dong phan o(∩_∩)o <3 <3 <3
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
September 02 2008 06:02 GMT
#104
well thats free CJ shirt(s).
made us look like fuking suckers.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
September 02 2008 06:08 GMT
#105
I guess not
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
September 02 2008 06:14 GMT
#106
Oh wow... team a, progaming license.. just wow
w/e
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
September 02 2008 06:30 GMT
#107
Head about this and had to keep lips sealing . Sick life, Greg good luck @ CJ!
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
September 02 2008 06:34 GMT
#108
On September 02 2008 14:48 Juanpe wrote:
Wtf new cleaning service members for CJ?

[image loading]

LOL but where's his toilet scrubber?
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
September 02 2008 06:37 GMT
#109
On September 02 2008 14:07 hi19hi19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 13:55 VIB wrote:
On September 02 2008 12:54 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Korean News Article
http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue
PLEASE tell me what they're saying on the comments PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!1111

A couple about him being 19 years old, though I can't tell why that's important from the context. One of them saying he's not the same as Draco because he can adapt or something like that. There's one comment about his nose, I think (lol) EDIT okay no, I'm dreaming ignore that one
A few are saying CJ is a better team in general, and there's a few saying it's a good move and that IdrA can grow.

That's what I gather, though I'm not that good at Korean yet.
What else?? WAT WAT
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2898 Posts
September 02 2008 06:47 GMT
#110
manner ppl

manner
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 02 2008 06:49 GMT
#111
So, did he receive a pro licence from CJ? Or did he win a courage tournament?^_^
Anyways good job IdrA, We want to see you in Proleague!!! :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 06:55:16
September 02 2008 06:54 GMT
#112
Wow, this is a big step up. I heard this on IRC and thought it was a joke to do with the shirts or something. Playing with the likes of sAviOr, GGPlay, Iris, XellOs... that's obviously going to have a huge positive effect on IdrA's gameplay. Good to hear he is improving rapidly and doing so well over there, keep it up man, we're cheering for you. Even if you're bad at interviews ~

On September 02 2008 15:49 G.s)NarutO wrote:
So, did he receive a pro licence from CJ? Or did he win a courage tournament?^_^
Anyways good job IdrA, We want to see you in Proleague!!! :D


He got a pro license after winning an in-house eSTRO tournament, who then traded him to CJ.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
FConnectionUK *
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States316 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 07:13:34
September 02 2008 06:58 GMT
#113
http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue



지난 4월, IEG(International E-sports Group)에서 개최한 ‘스타크래프트 토너먼트 시즌1’ 북미지역 챔피언, 그렉 필즈 (Greg Fields; 아이디:Idra. 종족: 테란)가 CJ 엔투스 프로게임단에 합류하게 되었다.

Last April, Greg Fields (Id: Idra. Race: Terran), the North American winner of 'Starcraft Tournament Season One sponsored by IEG (International E-sports Group), joined up with CJ Entus Progaming Team.

최근 4개월여 ‘이스트로’ 프로게임단에서 연습생 활동을 지속해왔던 그렉 필즈는 미국 뉴저지 출신으로 올해 만 19세. 미국 고등학교 졸업 후 곧바로 한국으로 건너와 현재까지는 한국 선수들의 경기 스타일과 모국에는 접할 수 없었던 한국 프로게이머들의 문화 등을 직접 체험하는데 중점을 두고 생활했다.

Greg Fields, who has been 'Estro' Pro-Team practice partner for last four months, is from New Jersey, USA and is 19 years old. He came over to Korea as soon as he graduated from the high school and is now living and fully experiencing the culture of Progaming which is only available here in Korea.

과거, 문화적 차이, 언어 장벽 등을 이유로 한국 생활에 실패한 여타 해외 출신 프로게이머와는 달리 빠른 적응력을 보여온 그렉은 “CJ엔투스와 같은 명문 게임단에 입단할 수 있다는 것이 꿈만 같다. 주어진 기회를 놓치지 않고 최선을 다하여 최고의 선수가 되고 싶다”고 그 소감을 전했다.

With incredibly fast adapting, Greg, unlike any of his preceders who failed due to their past, cultural differences, language barrier... etc., claimed "It is an honor to be a part of such famous team like of CJ Entus. With this given opportunity, I'll make the best use of it and become the best."

이미 해외 스타크래프트 팬 커뮤니티 사이에서는 최고의 유망주로 기대 받고 있는 그이지만 아직 한국의 벽은 높기만 한 것이 사실이다. CJ 엔투스 조규남 감독은 “아직 CJ엔투스 2군 선수들의 기량에도 못 미칠 정도의 수준이나, 기본기가 탄탄하고 여타 해외 선수와는 다르게 성실한 연습태도와 정신력을 가졌기에 향후 높은 발전이 기대된다”고 밝혔다.

It is true, much faith is placed upon him among the leading foreign Starcraft Fan Communities. However, it is also true that the challenge(skill gap) given by Korea is just as big. CJ Entus Coach Jo Gyu Nam said in an interview, "his skill does not even reach that of our 2nd team players, yet he has a solid mechanic/basic and is highly determined and motivated. I put much hope that he will improve drastically."

지난 e스포츠의 역사에는 ‘기욤 패트리’, ‘베르뜨랑’과 같은 유명 해외 선수들이 한 축을 이루던 시절이 있었다. 단신의 몸으로 한국 메이저리그에서의 성공을 꿈꾸는 Greg의 행보에 귀추가 주목된다.

There once was a time in e-Sports when the foreign players such as Giyom and Elky played a huge role. And now watch out for Greg who is striving to be even more successful in Korea.
SC:BW - NrG.fCuk // SC2 - NrGGuN
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
September 02 2008 07:06 GMT
#114
Congrats and good luck, Idra~! Hopefully Idra's rise is accompanied by the successful return of sAviOr. =P
「 Dream & Future 」 ※ 「 STX SouL 」
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 07:24:24
September 02 2008 07:23 GMT
#115
On September 02 2008 14:10 Machine[USA] wrote:
[image loading]


You win for this post.

Actually if you look at the video interview, the guy getting owned by water is like the rest of the EStro team eh?
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
September 02 2008 07:24 GMT
#116
OMG! IdrA, you have to touch XellOs for me (you choose where)!!!! Also tell them we need 1000 more shirts to sell!

I know we have plans for a signed CJ shirt (by whom?) for charity auction, but imagine how much one would get signed by the whole team! We could cure cancer!
I <3 서지훈
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
September 02 2008 07:27 GMT
#117
Thanks for the translation FCUK, it's always interesting to have some insight into what the Koreans think of their token foreign progamer. It's scary that he mentioned IdrA is not even at the level of their second-string players though. Although then again, I guess people like sAviOr are on their B-team so it's not like they are nobodies. Good to see that the motivated and eager mindset of IdrA has not changed over the months that he has been in Korea.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
September 02 2008 07:29 GMT
#118
On September 02 2008 15:47 G5 wrote:
manner ppl

manner

oh we're just poking fun, it's all good man
i love Idra
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
September 02 2008 07:42 GMT
#119
Major opportunity for Idra, I wish him the best of luck with it.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
September 02 2008 07:48 GMT
#120
anyone else having problems with the video? i haven't been able to watch anything from that site.... (scforall.com)
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Xiberia
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden634 Posts
September 02 2008 07:58 GMT
#121
Nice.
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
September 02 2008 08:00 GMT
#122
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/


you're a fucking idiot.

do you know how much fun he's having in korea playing sc against pros? he's followed his dreams while fags like you sit back and pretend to be smarter/better when you're not. attitudes like yours lead you to meritocracy; some people strive for things higher than that.
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Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
September 02 2008 08:08 GMT
#123
Good opportunity. Make sure you make the most from it.

Congrats, and good luck.
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
morfyy
Profile Joined May 2007
Romania593 Posts
September 02 2008 08:30 GMT
#124
^^ awesome news Idra ftw
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 09:01:52
September 02 2008 08:34 GMT
#125
Hed better not get his ass handed @ wcg now.

And about the "free license" thing, its the right thing to do.

Koreans get officialised in pro gaming by getting their license, but they're already integrated in it for some time before.

A foreigner in Korea would have to get a license to get integrated.

16 hours a day is bad for the brain tho >.>

At my time, foreigner's practice style was like :

Restaurant, nightclub, hotel. Wake up, midle of afternoon when hangover is done, play some SC for fun, then : restaurant, nightclub, hotel all over again >.>

(I never won anything, Grrrr.. did however with same schedule type >.> )
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
September 02 2008 08:58 GMT
#126
On September 02 2008 17:34 Boonbag wrote:
Hed better not get his ass handed @ wcg now.

And about the "free license" thing, its the right thing to do.

Koreans get officialised in pro gaming by getting their license, but they're already integrated in it for some time before.

A foreigner in Korea would have to get a license to get integrated.

16 hours a day is bad for the brain tho >.>

At my time, foreigner's practice style was like :

Restaurant, nightclub, hotel. Wake up, midle of afternoon when hangover is done, play some SC for fun, then : restaurant, nightclub, hotel all over again >.>

$5 says he does. -_-; his attitude is so shitty though, but gl. flame me all you want but he lacks charisma and shit that draco has.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
September 02 2008 09:01 GMT
#127
On September 02 2008 17:58 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 17:34 Boonbag wrote:
Hed better not get his ass handed @ wcg now.

And about the "free license" thing, its the right thing to do.

Koreans get officialised in pro gaming by getting their license, but they're already integrated in it for some time before.

A foreigner in Korea would have to get a license to get integrated.

16 hours a day is bad for the brain tho >.>

At my time, foreigner's practice style was like :

Restaurant, nightclub, hotel. Wake up, midle of afternoon when hangover is done, play some SC for fun, then : restaurant, nightclub, hotel all over again >.>

$5 says he does. -_-; his attitude is so shitty though, but gl. flame me all you want but he lacks charisma and shit that draco has.
He's not an example of manners but I it seems more like he's just trying to be funny in the interview :p Don't take it seriously.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
September 02 2008 09:12 GMT
#128
On September 02 2008 17:00 MyLostTemple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/


you're a fucking idiot.

do you know how much fun he's having in korea playing sc against pros? he's followed his dreams while fags like you sit back and pretend to be smarter/better when you're not. attitudes like yours lead you to meritocracy; some people strive for things higher than that.

Yeah QFT, flame your a dick head
Clearly you have no intrest in sc or you would understand why he wants to follow his dream, and thats not diluted, looking at everything through money is whats diluted
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 02 2008 09:17 GMT
#129
On September 02 2008 18:12 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 17:00 MyLostTemple wrote:
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/


you're a fucking idiot.

do you know how much fun he's having in korea playing sc against pros? he's followed his dreams while fags like you sit back and pretend to be smarter/better when you're not. attitudes like yours lead you to meritocracy; some people strive for things higher than that.

Yeah QFT, flame your a dick head
Clearly you have no intrest in sc or you would understand why he wants to follow his dream, and thats not diluted, looking at everything through money is whats diluted



IdrA is a big idiot if your definition of an idiot is a person who lives his dream(s). IdrA can when he will drop out of progaming in the future still get a job, maybe in Korea even if he wants to. He learnes a foreign language and culture. He lives his fucking dream and makes the best out of it. Cut the envy.

Maybe he can become Translator (English/Korean because perfect English and Korean speaking people are rare!)!

IdrA best of luck - go and own!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15328 Posts
September 02 2008 09:22 GMT
#130
On September 02 2008 17:00 MyLostTemple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/


you're a fucking idiot.

do you know how much fun he's having in korea playing sc against pros? he's followed his dreams while fags like you sit back and pretend to be smarter/better when you're not. attitudes like yours lead you to meritocracy; some people strive for things higher than that.

Did you mean mediocrity? I don't see how sitting back and taking the save and easy road will lead to meritocracy nor that meritocracy is a bad thing.
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Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
September 02 2008 09:34 GMT
#131
Wow. Fuck. Great news Idra. I'm really happy you got your pro-gamer license. No more worrying about 2048-man Courage groups..........
NathanEO
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany254 Posts
September 02 2008 09:36 GMT
#132
The sad thing is that IdrA is supposed to "represent" the foreign scene. He is just some immature U.S. kid with decent SC skills. Hope he grows up soon, develops a personality and *uuum* pawns in Proleague ;-).
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 09:42:32
September 02 2008 09:42 GMT
#133
^^ I don't consider leaving everything you know to play with people who don't even speak your language "immature". Quite frankly it's fucking brave.

GL Idra, just be yourself because clearly it's working great so far.
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 09:44:50
September 02 2008 09:43 GMT
#134
He doesn't carry those jokes well. He should probably stop doing that because it offends so many people.

But Idra achieved a lot in little time. Not many people can do what he did.
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
September 02 2008 09:45 GMT
#135
On September 02 2008 17:34 Boonbag wrote:
Hed better not get his ass handed @ wcg now.

And about the "free license" thing, its the right thing to do.

Koreans get officialised in pro gaming by getting their license, but they're already integrated in it for some time before.

A foreigner in Korea would have to get a license to get integrated.

16 hours a day is bad for the brain tho >.>

At my time, foreigner's practice style was like :

Restaurant, nightclub, hotel. Wake up, midle of afternoon when hangover is done, play some SC for fun, then : restaurant, nightclub, hotel all over again >.>

(I never won anything, Grrrr.. did however with same schedule type >.> )
Hey its that guy that had great stories but then stopped telling us about them.
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isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 09:48:35
September 02 2008 09:45 GMT
#136
On September 02 2008 17:58 Raithed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 17:34 Boonbag wrote:
Hed better not get his ass handed @ wcg now.

And about the "free license" thing, its the right thing to do.

Koreans get officialised in pro gaming by getting their license, but they're already integrated in it for some time before.

A foreigner in Korea would have to get a license to get integrated.

16 hours a day is bad for the brain tho >.>

At my time, foreigner's practice style was like :

Restaurant, nightclub, hotel. Wake up, middle of afternoon when hangover is done, play some SC for fun, then : restaurant, nightclub, hotel all over again >.>

$5 says he does. -_-; his attitude is so shitty though, but gl. flame me all you want but he lacks charisma and shit that draco has.


I totally agree. It's hard to root for someone who seems so not at all exited about getting such an amazing opportunity and someone who has such a horrible attitude towards the rest of the non Korean community. If anything, he should be praising all the crappy countries in these kind of interviews, considering the fact that he now is somewhat of a pro gamer and should, according to me, at least try to act as such. Hopefully he'll get some media training before anything else in the CJ house.

To be honest I'd rather see NonY, Draco, Mondragon, JF, ClouD or anyone with at least some charisma or someone who would show some enthusiasm for that huge huuuuuuuuge shot.

Anyways, i hope he does good, and that's only because a foreigner needs to do well. Other then that i hope he fails in his post-korea gaming career. God what a huge d**k.
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yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
September 02 2008 10:03 GMT
#137
UGH holy shit watching that reminded me of a porno so much
Pellucidity
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Netherlands377 Posts
September 02 2008 10:09 GMT
#138
Congrats Idra! Pro license too! sweet.
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
September 02 2008 10:13 GMT
#139
On September 02 2008 19:03 yubee wrote:
UGH holy shit watching that reminded me of a porno so much

Lol~
You actually watch that part?
I just fastforward it man.
Karma is a bitch
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
September 02 2008 10:13 GMT
#140
Go IdrA!
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
September 02 2008 10:38 GMT
#141
On September 02 2008 15:58 FConnectionUK wrote:
http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue



지난 4월, IEG(International E-sports Group)에서 개최한 ‘스타크래프트 토너먼트 시즌1’ 북미지역 챔피언, 그렉 필즈 (Greg Fields; 아이디:Idra. 종족: 테란)가 CJ 엔투스 프로게임단에 합류하게 되었다.

Last April, Greg Fields (Id: Idra. Race: Terran), the North American winner of 'Starcraft Tournament Season One sponsored by IEG (International E-sports Group), joined up with CJ Entus Progaming Team.

최근 4개월여 ‘이스트로’ 프로게임단에서 연습생 활동을 지속해왔던 그렉 필즈는 미국 뉴저지 출신으로 올해 만 19세. 미국 고등학교 졸업 후 곧바로 한국으로 건너와 현재까지는 한국 선수들의 경기 스타일과 모국에는 접할 수 없었던 한국 프로게이머들의 문화 등을 직접 체험하는데 중점을 두고 생활했다.

Greg Fields, who has been 'Estro' Pro-Team practice partner for last four months, is from New Jersey, USA and is 19 years old. He came over to Korea as soon as he graduated from the high school and is now living and fully experiencing the culture of Progaming which is only available here in Korea.

과거, 문화적 차이, 언어 장벽 등을 이유로 한국 생활에 실패한 여타 해외 출신 프로게이머와는 달리 빠른 적응력을 보여온 그렉은 “CJ엔투스와 같은 명문 게임단에 입단할 수 있다는 것이 꿈만 같다. 주어진 기회를 놓치지 않고 최선을 다하여 최고의 선수가 되고 싶다”고 그 소감을 전했다.

With incredibly fast adapting, Greg, unlike any of his preceders who failed due to their past, cultural differences, language barrier... etc., claimed "It is an honor to be a part of such famous team like of CJ Entus. With this given opportunity, I'll make the best use of it and become the best."

이미 해외 스타크래프트 팬 커뮤니티 사이에서는 최고의 유망주로 기대 받고 있는 그이지만 아직 한국의 벽은 높기만 한 것이 사실이다. CJ 엔투스 조규남 감독은 “아직 CJ엔투스 2군 선수들의 기량에도 못 미칠 정도의 수준이나, 기본기가 탄탄하고 여타 해외 선수와는 다르게 성실한 연습태도와 정신력을 가졌기에 향후 높은 발전이 기대된다”고 밝혔다.

It is true, much faith is placed upon him among the leading foreign Starcraft Fan Communities. However, it is also true that the challenge(skill gap) given by Korea is just as big. CJ Entus Coach Jo Gyu Nam said in an interview, "his skill does not even reach that of our 2nd team players, yet he has a solid mechanic/basic and is highly determined and motivated. I put much hope that he will improve drastically."

지난 e스포츠의 역사에는 ‘기욤 패트리’, ‘베르뜨랑’과 같은 유명 해외 선수들이 한 축을 이루던 시절이 있었다. 단신의 몸으로 한국 메이저리그에서의 성공을 꿈꾸는 Greg의 행보에 귀추가 주목된다.

There once was a time in e-Sports when the foreign players such as Giyom and Elky played a huge role. And now watch out for Greg who is striving to be even more successful in Korea.


Thanks
#1 Terran hater
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 10:39:52
September 02 2008 10:38 GMT
#142
Am I the only one to think he was way too arrogant in this interview?
Starting to show the true self to the public greg?
You might want to skip some "dumb" considerations about foreign players since you are not even in the top 15 outside korea.
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zurg
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1923 Posts
September 02 2008 10:52 GMT
#143
he will fail like draco
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psyCrowe
Profile Joined December 2007
Scotland195 Posts
September 02 2008 10:52 GMT
#144
if idra gets to enter lottery for cj shirts, then thats 100% imba and i wont be happy
ocoini
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
648 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 10:59:14
September 02 2008 10:56 GMT
#145
I think he's very charismatic in a bm way, will be easy to hate, witch is a good thing. much like iG.ClouD is.. gogo bm people make me laugh.
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mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
September 02 2008 11:04 GMT
#146
I heard CJ has the toughest environment in terms of practising, followed close by Lecaf.. As in they hardly get any breaks or free-times and I don't thnk they have any 'soccer-exercise' times like Estro did.. Also, don't know if anyone in CJ speaks English.. In anycase, gl idra
Why So Serious?!
Splunge
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany925 Posts
September 02 2008 11:08 GMT
#147
This is really amazing! Good luck and have fun Idra! But I also thought he was a little bit to arrogant.
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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
September 02 2008 11:11 GMT
#148
That's excellent news, big step up, playing in the same team as Savior.
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
September 02 2008 11:14 GMT
#149
Wowww.... i mean I am very happy for idra but he has a really cocky additude against the foriegn scene..... anyone who thinks usa is above china and poland is seriously just kidding themselves..... and saying who cares germany vs sweeden is just uneeded..
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
September 02 2008 11:37 GMT
#150
lol wtf likeaboss... he just got some national pride and probably slightly kidding k - 0- chill
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Sawajiri
Profile Joined June 2007
Austria417 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 11:58:48
September 02 2008 11:56 GMT
#151
A lot of the comments are saying "ONLY 19 years? hahahaha..."

Apparently they think Greg is too old to be starting as a progamer and they're probably right.

Most of the other comments are pretty nice, though, saying that they're looking forward to seeing how he does, how they hope he will do fine with CJ, etc.
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
September 02 2008 12:10 GMT
#152
On September 02 2008 20:56 Sawajiri wrote:
A lot of the comments are saying "ONLY 19 years? hahahaha..."

Apparently they think Greg is too old to be starting as a progamer and they're probably right.

Most of the other comments are pretty nice, though, saying that they're looking forward to seeing how he does, how they hope he will do fine with CJ, etc.


Lol the comments are fantastic...

Fomos Commenter:
만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만 19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만 19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만 19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??


Good luck IdrA no way are you too old~~
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
September 02 2008 12:16 GMT
#153
Good Luck. Who do ppl care if he is arrogant or not :Ø He acts like a baby, but that's IdrA!


GOOD LUCK! May you get that licence and get some more manner! <3
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 02 2008 12:19 GMT
#154
"Germany is dumber than Poland"

I loled n_n
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
September 02 2008 12:28 GMT
#155
On September 02 2008 20:56 Sawajiri wrote:
A lot of the comments are saying "ONLY 19 years? hahahaha..."

Apparently they think Greg is too old to be starting as a progamer and they're probably right.

Most of the other comments are pretty nice, though, saying that they're looking forward to seeing how he does, how they hope he will do fine with CJ, etc.



i thought "only 19" would imply that he's young... "already 19" would sound more like he's too old.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 02 2008 12:38 GMT
#156
Age really is only an issue for male koreans - idra and tossgirl dont' have to worry about military service
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ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
September 02 2008 12:54 GMT
#157
On September 02 2008 19:03 yubee wrote:
UGH holy shit watching that reminded me of a porno so much
Was it all the men involved?
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 13:29:00
September 02 2008 13:26 GMT
#158
'Old' age being a barrier is a myth.

Just compare it with different sports. In chess it's not a huge problem. Neither it is in formula one.

What about aging with really impede playing ability?

And 18 is damn young. It's not that he has to learn to play the game from scratch. You can't be any younger and be a foreigner in Korea.


Ooh, and I remember last time the comments were pretty negative. So they are milder and basically limited to the 'age myth'?
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
September 02 2008 13:28 GMT
#159
Grats idra, I hope you feel lucky.

But i can't wish you good luck though beacuse your attitude really stinks.
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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
September 02 2008 13:30 GMT
#160
Idra is just as bm as MiStrZZZ, except not as funny by far.
Arrogance and dissing everyone and everything around you doesn't make you a cool kid.
I wish him good luck anyway, it would be cool to see a foreigner doing well in Korea.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
September 02 2008 13:35 GMT
#161
Shees, can't you guys take a bad joke? You people make it even less funny.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 13:42:59
September 02 2008 13:38 GMT
#162
Never share your opinions on the internet greg!!!

Especially in a jokingly manner!!!!!
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Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
September 02 2008 13:56 GMT
#163
On September 02 2008 19:03 yubee wrote:
UGH holy shit watching that reminded me of a porno so much


This was EXACTLY what I thought. Especially Artosis's voice was so porn like.

Anyway, good luck to you Idra! Get CJ to sell us more progamer wear.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15328 Posts
September 02 2008 14:10 GMT
#164
On September 02 2008 22:56 Schnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 19:03 yubee wrote:
UGH holy shit watching that reminded me of a porno so much


This was EXACTLY what I thought. Especially Artosis's voice was so porn like.

Anyway, good luck to you Idra! Get CJ to sell us more progamer wear.

Now that you say it - SO TRUE! Jesus, it's sounds exactly like porn, especially the short pausing. Haha
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
September 02 2008 14:13 GMT
#165
On September 02 2008 22:56 Schnake wrote:

Anyway, good luck to you Idra! Get CJ to sell us more progamer wear.

觀過斯知仁矣.
Juanpe
Profile Joined May 2008
Uruguay283 Posts
September 02 2008 14:14 GMT
#166
On September 02 2008 23:10 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 22:56 Schnake wrote:
On September 02 2008 19:03 yubee wrote:
UGH holy shit watching that reminded me of a porno so much


This was EXACTLY what I thought. Especially Artosis's voice was so porn like.

Anyway, good luck to you Idra! Get CJ to sell us more progamer wear.

Now that you say it - SO TRUE! Jesus, it's sounds exactly like porn, especially the short pausing. Haha


o_O

btw, gl Gregory.
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lwstupidus
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States74 Posts
September 02 2008 14:19 GMT
#167
On September 02 2008 22:38 Ideas wrote:
Never share your opinions on the internet greg!!!

Especially in a jokingly manner!!!!!


Are you sure he's joking? Is he also joking when he calls people faggots when he loses?

I think his arrogance is a good trait though, he will continually work hard because in his mind he is the best and getting constantly destroyed at CJ will only make him work that much harder.
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Sawajiri
Profile Joined June 2007
Austria417 Posts
September 02 2008 14:24 GMT
#168
On September 02 2008 21:28 29 fps wrote:

i thought "only 19" would imply that he's young... "already 19" would sound more like he's too old.


I think they are mocking the article, in which it said 'only'. For Korean standard, Greg is indeed a bit old, most Korean recruits are still in high-school and most pro gamers his age already have years of vigorous training behind them. It doesn't mean all hope is lost, just that he has to work very hard indeed.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 02 2008 14:29 GMT
#169
On September 02 2008 22:30 Scorch wrote:
Idra is just as bm as MiStrZZZ, except not as funny by far.
Arrogance and dissing everyone and everything around you doesn't make you a cool kid.
I wish him good luck anyway, it would be cool to see a foreigner doing well in Korea.


noone is as bm as mistrzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
September 02 2008 14:45 GMT
#170
Video's naught loading for meeeeeee
From the comments I can tell it's IdrA just fucking around and being bm like always
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also <3 Tasteless for that post a page or two back. I'd fuck you both for 500 minerals
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
September 02 2008 15:29 GMT
#171
lol
so funny interview, awesome.

the guy who was interviewing was daniel lee?


gl idra...
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
September 02 2008 15:32 GMT
#172
Artosis was interviewing.

The interview made me lol at least twice, my mum even asked "are you ok?!" :p
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
September 02 2008 15:32 GMT
#173
On September 03 2008 00:29 ilbh wrote:
lol
so funny interview, awesome.

the guy who was interviewing was daniel lee?


gl idra...

Uh... Do you live in a fox hole? The person interviewing is Artosis...
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T.Sqd)LillTT
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Lithuania149 Posts
September 02 2008 15:34 GMT
#174
On September 02 2008 19:52 zurg wrote:
he will fail like draco


No he won't fail like draco since draco was on the top half of the players at OGN house and was pretty close from playing a televised match. Idra has about 5% luck possibility of what draco had becouse he is not on the same level that draco was. All that want to see Idra play a televised match so badly I suggest : Sit back buy urself a year supply of pop-corns and coke and keep waiting, couse that is not going to happen soon..btw cloud is right he isn't in the top15 of the top foreigners thats for sure.
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
September 02 2008 15:34 GMT
#175
That's great news if you ask me.

I have a feeling idra's gonna have to tattoo savior and xellos on his but cheeks.
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Beagle23
Profile Joined August 2008
Australia52 Posts
September 02 2008 15:41 GMT
#176
Everyone jumping on the bandwagon to crucify that one guy for even suggesting that pro-gaming is not a great career choice is a bit scary.

Whether or not the opinion is valid it would be nice to keep an open mind instead of all following some kind of mob mentality.

I don't agree with the guy, I'm just saying.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
September 02 2008 15:49 GMT
#177
On September 03 2008 00:34 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 19:52 zurg wrote:
he will fail like draco


No he won't fail like draco since draco was on the top half of the players at OGN house and was pretty close from playing a televised match. Idra has about 5% luck possibility of what draco had becouse he is not on the same level that draco was. All that want to see Idra play a televised match so badly I suggest : Sit back buy urself a year supply of pop-corns and coke and keep waiting, couse that is not going to happen soon..btw cloud is right he isn't in the top15 of the top foreigners thats for sure.
Err...did you see Idra vs Stork? Very few in the foreign scene could hope to do that well against someone of Stork's caliber. Idra has had a few disappointing performances, like in the TSL, or when he lost to Fenix- perhaps Idra needs a bit better of game sense or something, but his mechanics blow away pretty much everyone in the foreign scene.
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 16:08:18
September 02 2008 16:02 GMT
#178
On September 03 2008 00:34 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote:

No he won't fail like draco since draco was on the top half of the players at OGN house and was pretty close from playing a televised match. Idra has about 5% luck possibility of what draco had becouse he is not on the same level that draco was. All that want to see Idra play a televised match so badly I suggest : Sit back buy urself a year supply of pop-corns and coke and keep waiting, couse that is not going to happen soon..btw cloud is right he isn't in the top15 of the top foreigners thats for sure.


Draco said he was in the middle of inhouse game ranking. That's not bottom, but definately not top. How close is "pretty close" to playing a televised match? Draco has a long way to go. Only the best gets to play for the team while being in the middle is hardly enough. Rekrul mention Draco couldn't adapt to living in Korea while Idra so far, has no complaints. Idra may not be top 15 foreigners before Korea, but there is no doubt he is top 15 now. The past is insignificant when compared to the present. Now he is at least top 5 foreigner. Look at his TSL results after 1-2 months. Now he is even better.
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moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
September 02 2008 16:04 GMT
#179
Like to wish Idra all the best now that he is joining our team. I think some people are missing the point whether Idra succeeds or not. Going after what one wants and gaining confidence from being able to do so is in my eyes more important than the outcome itself.
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Worked!
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada264 Posts
September 02 2008 16:07 GMT
#180
spoon-fed pro gamer license... lucky guy oO
~_~
NewJulyZerg
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada29 Posts
September 02 2008 16:27 GMT
#181
haha thats awesome....they are really thinking of putting him in A team house??

I guess that would improve him faster though...gl to idra
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
September 02 2008 16:47 GMT
#182
i didn't watch the interview, just wanted to post to say godspeed, IdrA. make the best of your time over there.
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InKline_PL
Profile Joined October 2004
52 Posts
September 02 2008 16:48 GMT
#183
For what have you said about Poles and Germans, don't bother coming to Cologne.Regards
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 02 2008 16:59 GMT
#184
will this coach finish what others started? or will it be a failure? i feel there is some risk in this maneuver >_<

good luck idra, keep working hard
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Lyrok
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany85 Posts
September 02 2008 17:12 GMT
#185
So easy to hate after that Video.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
September 02 2008 17:13 GMT
#186
On September 03 2008 01:48 InKline_PL wrote:
For what have you said about Poles and Germans, don't bother coming to Cologne.Regards

better not win wcg idra, those poles and germans are some hard motherfuckers :O you might not make it out alive!!!
Entusman #12
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
September 02 2008 17:13 GMT
#187
GL IDRA.
Peace~
mrcheese
Profile Joined March 2008
49 Posts
September 02 2008 17:29 GMT
#188
damn, idra is very old.., i thought that he was like 17 or so
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 02 2008 17:37 GMT
#189
On September 03 2008 01:07 Worked! wrote:
spoon-fed pro gamer license... lucky guy oO


hardly
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 02 2008 17:41 GMT
#190
No doubt that he will became better over time, under CJ coaches this time

But for now many strong words and opinions but weak results. Unlike the last progamers, the protoss trio Draco, Lx, Pj. They were owning the foreign scene before korea episode. Top class and diffrent caliber than Idra.

Trash talk is good when you have the skill to back it up.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
September 02 2008 17:48 GMT
#191
On September 03 2008 02:41 ZlyKiss wrote:
No doubt that he will became better over time, under CJ coaches this time

But for now many strong words and opinions but weak results. Unlike the last progamers, the protoss trio Draco, Lx, Pj. They were owning the foreign scene before korea episode. Top class and diffrent caliber than Idra.

Trash talk is good when you have the skill to back it up.

trash talk is never good, but taking it too seriously is even worse =]
Entusman #12
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 02 2008 17:49 GMT
#192
On September 03 2008 02:37 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 01:07 Worked! wrote:
spoon-fed pro gamer license... lucky guy oO


hardly


As far as I know.... that is what stopped the last 3 gamers before him ..... getting threw courage......


and he got a free pass?


Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
September 02 2008 17:54 GMT
#193
On September 03 2008 02:48 littlechava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 02:41 ZlyKiss wrote:
No doubt that he will became better over time, under CJ coaches this time

But for now many strong words and opinions but weak results. Unlike the last progamers, the protoss trio Draco, Lx, Pj. They were owning the foreign scene before korea episode. Top class and diffrent caliber than Idra.

Trash talk is good when you have the skill to back it up.

trash talk is never good, but taking it too seriously is even worse =]


Hahah, exactly.

Didnt even think the stuff he said was that offending..
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cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
September 02 2008 17:55 GMT
#194
On September 03 2008 02:29 mrcheese wrote:
damn, idra is very old.., i thought that he was like 17 or so


19 is still very young lol why does everyone around here act like you need to be 12 yrs old to be a pro gamer in korea -_-;
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
September 02 2008 17:55 GMT
#195
I might sound like a fucking douche and whatnot. But I don't care.

I think he will fail miserably. if he doesn't, then good for him. -_-;
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pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
September 02 2008 17:58 GMT
#196
I don't understand why the Koreans think 19 is too old. Several players on the pro B-Teams are as old, if not older, than Idra. I guess it's because they think it will take him longer to build his skills as a progamer.
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Worked!
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada264 Posts
September 02 2008 18:22 GMT
#197
On September 03 2008 02:37 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 01:07 Worked! wrote:
spoon-fed pro gamer license... lucky guy oO


hardly



Explain how being given a pro gamer license without passing courage is not being spoon-fed, on second thought don't even bother trying to explain because you're wrong.
~_~
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
September 02 2008 18:34 GMT
#198
On September 03 2008 03:22 Worked! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 02:37 travis wrote:
On September 03 2008 01:07 Worked! wrote:
spoon-fed pro gamer license... lucky guy oO


hardly



Explain how being given a pro gamer license without passing courage is not being spoon-fed, on second thought don't even bother trying to explain because you're wrong.

The part where he had to go 50/50 versus the longterm progamers of estro was hardly beeing spoon fed =p.
That said everyone of the recent forigners in Korea was given the license for free except for Leg. (and maybe assem I don't know)
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dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 02 2008 18:41 GMT
#199
-.-' JianFei... where the hell are you?
...from the land of imba
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
September 02 2008 18:42 GMT
#200
On September 03 2008 02:49 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 02:37 travis wrote:
On September 03 2008 01:07 Worked! wrote:
spoon-fed pro gamer license... lucky guy oO


hardly


As far as I know.... that is what stopped the last 3 gamers before him ..... getting threw courage......


and he got a free pass?



Draco failed at courage a few times before OGN got him a liscense.
Lx and PJ had some sort of chineese equvilent I think, so KeSPA made an exception.

And suncow just failed at life in Korea.
Fuck KeSPA.
V6
Profile Joined February 2008
147 Posts
September 02 2008 19:01 GMT
#201
i really dont like idra. He seems dry and bm.. But hey, gl anyway
mizoguchi
Profile Joined August 2008
United States50 Posts
September 02 2008 20:37 GMT
#202
Man, he could've shown some gratitude towards Estro for bringing him there and all that. Then again, maybe it takes a powerful personality like that to overcome the odds and make it in the Korean starcraft scene. Well good luck to him, I guess. It seems like the current crop competing in the spirit tournament will make better ambassadors for the "foreign" starcraft scene though.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
September 02 2008 20:51 GMT
#203
wow i didn't knew, that a pro license can be handed out by a team...
i can't tell whether it's good or bad for him to move to cj. i mean he has a much stronger competition inside the cj team than it was at estro. that's good for his evolution of skill and stuff like that. but on the other hand it will be much harder to really PLAY a game that matters because the whole team is much better...
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FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
September 02 2008 20:56 GMT
#204
What the fuck is Idra so hyped about? In my opinion he'll be a dime a dozen in the amateur scene and never make it anywhere
pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
September 02 2008 21:01 GMT
#205
On September 03 2008 05:56 freedom yay wrote:
What the fuck is Idra so hyped about?


I'm gonna go ahead and guess because he's not Korean.
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 02 2008 21:01 GMT
#206
He hasn't been there long, but I wonder how good he will get. Hopefully he'll get good enough for Proleague in a year's time.
dickless123
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (North)33 Posts
September 02 2008 21:05 GMT
#207
he'll need alot of support than now if hes gonna make it.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
September 02 2008 21:08 GMT
#208
On September 03 2008 03:22 Worked! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 02:37 travis wrote:
On September 03 2008 01:07 Worked! wrote:
spoon-fed pro gamer license... lucky guy oO


hardly



Explain how being given a pro gamer license without passing courage is not being spoon-fed, on second thought don't even bother trying to explain because you're wrong.


he still has to earn it by playing well within his team. the coaches organize inner-team ranking competitions once every few weeks and they also watch regular practice games. i believe teams only have 2 "hand outs" per year so they have to use them carefully. there is no way idra got a progamer license without showing good results during practice
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TW WiNNinG 54
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States250 Posts
September 02 2008 21:09 GMT
#209
Wow! Idra that sounds great! Congrads, I hope u love it in ur new dojo. Ur gona be even greater now, having the opportunity to learn under legedary players Savior and Xellos! What a wonderful opportunity! Hope many great and awesome things happen in the land of CJ. Hope to see u on the PL side since now u have ur license.
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TvAll
Profile Joined June 2008
Trinidad/Tobago49 Posts
September 02 2008 21:11 GMT
#210
Germany or Sweden ?

Who cares ! ROFL. GL in CJ
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BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
September 02 2008 21:12 GMT
#211
On September 03 2008 06:08 NonY[rC] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 03:22 Worked! wrote:
On September 03 2008 02:37 travis wrote:
On September 03 2008 01:07 Worked! wrote:
spoon-fed pro gamer license... lucky guy oO


hardly



Explain how being given a pro gamer license without passing courage is not being spoon-fed, on second thought don't even bother trying to explain because you're wrong.


he still has to earn it by playing well within his team. the coaches organize inner-team ranking competitions once every few weeks and they also watch regular practice games. i believe teams only have 2 "hand outs" per year so they have to use them carefully. there is no way idra got a progamer license without showing good results during practice




x2!!
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
September 02 2008 21:44 GMT
#212
So what will Idra be competing in with his new license? Of course for the minor league he has to proof his merit in the CJ house first. What about individual leagues and stuff? Someone knows? I don't even know when minor league starts again.
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
September 02 2008 21:47 GMT
#213
On September 02 2008 12:21 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/



Its what he wants to do, its not like he cant come back and go to a Community College for a year or 2 (dunno what is current academic prognosis looks like just) then go to a university.

He gets to experience another culture and go for something that he really wants to do, more power to him.

however if played bw 12 hrs a day id literally murder myself. You have to REALLY like the game to do that, 12 hrs a day of just about anything has to make it miserable.


Actually, according to Daniel Lee(interview somewhere on scforall), Idra, unlike the other foreigners that he brought to Korea, does nothing but stay in the team house and play SC. . . so, in terms of improving his SC play he is prolly doing fine, but his experiencing of the Korean culture is severely limited. Unless all of Korea is just like the inside of a SC team house, somehow I doubt this.

And yeah, watching these interviews with him, he really comes across as a shallow minded asshole with minimal personality.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7228 Posts
September 02 2008 21:57 GMT
#214
On September 03 2008 06:47 meathook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2008 12:21 Sadist wrote:
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote:
Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/



Its what he wants to do, its not like he cant come back and go to a Community College for a year or 2 (dunno what is current academic prognosis looks like just) then go to a university.

He gets to experience another culture and go for something that he really wants to do, more power to him.

however if played bw 12 hrs a day id literally murder myself. You have to REALLY like the game to do that, 12 hrs a day of just about anything has to make it miserable.


Actually, according to Daniel Lee(interview somewhere on scforall), Idra, unlike the other foreigners that he brought to Korea, does nothing but stay in the team house and play SC. . . so, in terms of improving his SC play he is prolly doing fine, but his experiencing of the Korean culture is severely limited. Unless all of Korea is just like the inside of a SC team house, somehow I doubt this.

And yeah, watching these interviews with him, he really comes across as a shallow minded asshole with minimal personality.


he still gets to live and interact with people from a different culture in their home country so id hope he can pick up on a few things. If he cant well then that sucks
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Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 22:08:02
September 02 2008 22:07 GMT
#215
testing (T)IdrA testing

edit: lol nice ^^
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Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 02 2008 22:24 GMT
#216
Why do people think he said "Germany and Poland are stupid"? He said "People who think Germany and Poland are the strongest nation besides Korea are stupid"
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
September 02 2008 22:30 GMT
#217
On September 03 2008 07:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Why do people think he said "Germany and Poland are stupid"? He said "People who think Germany and Poland are the strongest nation besides Korea are stupid"


Because it's the internet.
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ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
September 02 2008 22:55 GMT
#218
On September 02 2008 11:30 Nyovne wrote:
Unless I see Idra with a C(-_-)J face he ain't going anywhere!

p.s. send me a shit if I don't win one nig <3.

Lal :D


i hope u meant 'shirt'
fuck lag
TW WiNNinG 54
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States250 Posts
September 02 2008 23:11 GMT
#219
Story is on front page of fomos, Idra looks great in that CJ shirt
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d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
September 02 2008 23:16 GMT
#220
Good luck Idra! I hope to see you on the proleague bench of CJ someday soon!
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Oddysay
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 23:39:16
September 02 2008 23:20 GMT
#221
he not charismatic like many other people say , seriously idra if you read that try to do something and stop to act bm , only realy good player can do that , and you are not one of them .

agree about cloud post too
he was way too much arrogant in this interview and that true that he not even in the top 5
outside korea , know your current place honestly .

sorry about the bm , but after watch this interview gezzz . now that all my hate out :
idra got some good dedication for starcraft , good luck in your new team .
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-02 23:30:16
September 02 2008 23:29 GMT
#222
Idra should post a 5 rep pack as a sorta teaser and ty to his fans ........

+ Show Spoiler +
of which i'm not NonY is going to smash that bm noob
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
September 02 2008 23:31 GMT
#223
CJ wanted a good floor scubber and estro recommended idra.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Guss
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Sweden712 Posts
September 02 2008 23:40 GMT
#224
somebody link the fomos link so i can see him in teh CJ shirt
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
September 03 2008 00:07 GMT
#225
[image loading]


http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
September 03 2008 00:19 GMT
#226
For everyone saying Idra isn't in the top 15...that's completely wrong and ignorant. Going 50/50 in the estro house is something I'd like to see any other foreigner try to accomplish. I agree that he's a bit arrogant, but people are taking him too seriously.
FleaProblem
Profile Joined August 2008
Afghanistan5 Posts
September 03 2008 00:24 GMT
#227
Can't wait to see him get rammed in the ass on live Korean TV.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
September 03 2008 00:28 GMT
#228
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
September 03 2008 00:35 GMT
#229
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 03 2008 09:07 Highways wrote:
[image loading]


http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue


I scrow down the comments made by the koreans, even though i don't udnerstand it, just from looking at the smileys, the comments aren't encouraging which is sad.
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EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 03 2008 00:35 GMT
#230
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.
savior did nothing wrong
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
September 03 2008 00:38 GMT
#231
On September 03 2008 08:40 Guss wrote:
somebody link the fomos link so i can see him in teh CJ shirt


http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue

[image loading]


On September 03 2008 09:19 nevake wrote:
For everyone saying Idra isn't in the top 15...that's completely wrong and ignorant. Going 50/50 in the estro house is something I'd like to see any other foreigner try to accomplish. I agree that he's a bit arrogant, but people are taking him too seriously.


He probably is now but arguably wasn't when he left. It's hard to say where he stacks against the foreigners seeing has he hasn't really played any of them in a long time.

I think there's probably 5 or so foreigners that could go 50/50 in any house in Korea. Draco was probably 50/50 in OGN before he left.
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
September 03 2008 00:47 GMT
#232
On September 03 2008 09:38 thunk wrote:
I think there's probably 5 or so foreigners that could go 50/50 in any house in Korea. Draco was probably 50/50 in OGN before he left.

I seriously doubt it.
Entusman #12
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
September 03 2008 00:47 GMT
#233
I don't see how IdrA couldn't have been in the top 15 before he left tbh, during the initial eStro Tourney he only dropped 1 game to other foreigners, and that was Dino while he was hacking. That includes 2-0ing G5, NonY and hacking Dino, aswell as 4-0ing Skew.

I really want IdrA to do well in Korea and I have always liked him as a player since, well, he first broke out tbh.
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ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
September 03 2008 00:48 GMT
#234
Idra should get some showmatches up against some of the top foreigners, we demand blood!
Can you dig it?
TheSchwA
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States248 Posts
September 03 2008 00:53 GMT
#235
I see most of teamliquid has zero sense of humor.

I'd recommend calming down, try laughing, its usually pretty nice.
ArtLu
ploy
Profile Joined January 2006
United States416 Posts
September 03 2008 00:56 GMT
#236
Yes because Idra was most definitely trying to be funny.
TheSchwA
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States248 Posts
September 03 2008 00:58 GMT
#237
teh internetz iz serius buzineszesss
ArtLu
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 03 2008 01:06 GMT
#238
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


do you know how much hate draco got from people while he was there and still gets?

its like as soon as someone goes to korea, hes automatically cocky and arrogant and thinks he better than everyone and not really all that good so what the fuck is he doing over there etc

Its fucking pathetic how it happens every time a foreigner is successful

and everytime its these nobodies who show up on the forums to insult the only foreign hope in korea and gossip.

pathetic is really the only word for it
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
September 03 2008 01:06 GMT
#239
Yea Idra needs some manner!!! Kid is not even in the top 25 foreigners how dare he make such absurd claims and be 100% guranteed serious too!
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
September 03 2008 01:10 GMT
#240
ScFor all is completely useless without lower bandwith and Download Options....

Can someone rewrite the interview please?
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kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-03 01:19:52
September 03 2008 01:14 GMT
#241
cj best team fighting~
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TW WiNNinG 54
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States250 Posts
September 03 2008 01:21 GMT
#242
I think I can see why Idra "toughened" up, because now hes moving up to the big boys w/ CJ. Sure CJ was 9th in the PL, but with the calibur of the team, they could easily be in the post-season picture. Besides, CJ is a much tougher team, not a piece of cake like Estro. Im sorry but I cant think of anyone currently on the Estro team sorry ^^. I only knew Idra.

Same Face new Place... new attitude. Idra hwaiting!
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DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
September 03 2008 01:39 GMT
#243
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 03 2008 01:39 GMT
#244
So that interview was like a joke right? Cuz he did sound alittle cocky at times, and his voice was indifferent to everything.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 03 2008 01:57 GMT
#245
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.
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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
September 03 2008 02:02 GMT
#246
What was cocky about that? You'd have to be retarded to think he doesn't have a ridiculous leg up over everyone else not to mention he was already one of the best players in the US BEFORE going to Korea. He IS unarguably the favourite to win it. He knows it, you know it, why beat around the bush? One of the few things I like about these interviews is the complete honesty, even if that means any attempt at making a joke sails over his head, it's good.
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-03 02:31:13
September 03 2008 02:22 GMT
#247
He is definitely not one of the best foreigners. He had no right to be insulting other countries, even if they were jokes, because it's just too cocky. He was NOT the best US foreigner before he left, by far he was not. We will have to see how much he improved, but if he loses to other foreigners (Castro in Spirit) he should not be making absurd, ridiculous claims.

He DOES have the right that he should be proud and confident. But he should not be disregarding any opponents like he did. He is a good player. In fact, a great player. And, although I personally don't think him the best foreigner, he is a good representative with his determination. But it's unacceptable to talk like he did; even if it IS true, it's rude and disgusting. I wish Idra luck, and hope he is successful in his path, but he's got to get rid of this horrible aspect of him.

And for your own sake, I'd think it best for you not to call people retarded when you haven't even been provoked. Completely unnecessary.
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Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
September 03 2008 02:49 GMT
#248
I want to see foriegner pro gamer now and then, draco vs idra show match. Get the right people to gather up some money for draco so we can get this shit poppin. My prediction, 3-1 Draco. And i saw somewhere earlier people were doubting draco went 50% in the house, and I'm almost sure he did. He was winning one outta three games when he ENTERED the house if i recall correctly so thinking that he upped his winning percentage by 17 percent while getting pro gamer training isnt that hard to believe.
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jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-03 03:10:13
September 03 2008 03:09 GMT
#249
lol

him saying he is the best foreigner is like saying he is the tallest midget. you're still gonna be dwarfed anyway...
no?

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just joking, lightening up this thread;; ^__^v
moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-03 03:28:08
September 03 2008 03:13 GMT
#250
Interesting how when we talk about Idra's accomplishments, people defensively bring up Draco, but I could see those comments he made riling people up as the words came out of his mouth.

I think some of us expect to much from someone who has been their less than a year. These Koreans seem to start playing younger in a more conducive environment, in there own backyard. Foreigners going over there have to play catch up possibly by a few years.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7228 Posts
September 03 2008 03:14 GMT
#251
On September 03 2008 10:06 fusionsdf wrote:
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On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


do you know how much hate draco got from people while he was there and still gets?

its like as soon as someone goes to korea, hes automatically cocky and arrogant and thinks he better than everyone and not really all that good so what the fuck is he doing over there etc

Its fucking pathetic how it happens every time a foreigner is successful

and everytime its these nobodies who show up on the forums to insult the only foreign hope in korea and gossip.

pathetic is really the only word for it



In all honesty most peoples feelings for Idra started way before it was even known he was going to go to korea or anything. Its just his reputation. Most of the media players have it, it tends to bother people. they seem to get a long and dont take it too serious and or understand each other so it works for them, but dont act like hes some Victim and people have feelings for him based on nothing.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 03 2008 03:16 GMT
#252
On September 03 2008 12:13 moebius_string wrote:
Interesting how when we talk about Idra, people defensively bring up Draco, but I could see those comments he made riling people up as the words came out of his mouth.

I think some of us expect to much from someone who has been their less than a year. These Koreans seem to start playing younger in a more conducive environment, in there own backyard. Foreigners going over there have to play catch up possibly by a few years.


exactly

draco got exactly the same treatment idras getting now, and if you actually talk to players who know them/have met them in real life, those people generally say nice thing

people in the foreigner community will sieze on any stray comment to try and tear a player trying to play in korea down
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7228 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-03 03:22:19
September 03 2008 03:21 GMT
#253
On September 03 2008 12:16 fusionsdf wrote:
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On September 03 2008 12:13 moebius_string wrote:
Interesting how when we talk about Idra, people defensively bring up Draco, but I could see those comments he made riling people up as the words came out of his mouth.

I think some of us expect to much from someone who has been their less than a year. These Koreans seem to start playing younger in a more conducive environment, in there own backyard. Foreigners going over there have to play catch up possibly by a few years.


exactly

draco got exactly the same treatment idras getting now, and if you actually talk to players who know them/have met them in real life, those people generally say nice thing

people in the foreigner community will sieze on any stray comment to try and tear a player trying to play in korea down



IMO the 2 arent even closely related.

Nobody had problems with anybody going to korea until rekrul went really (maybe smuft caught a bit of shit but I dont remember any of it being widespread) Since then its just been Draco and Idra getting shit really. If draco wasnt from Poland I dont think it would be such a big problem either,In terms of "arrogance" I dont see much of a difference between Fisheye or Draco, the Polish fanbase seems to start a lot of shit on forums
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
poingy
Profile Joined November 2007
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-03 04:24:00
September 03 2008 03:23 GMT
#254
On September 03 2008 10:10 LemOn wrote:
ScFor all is completely useless without lower bandwith and Download Options....

Can someone rewrite the interview please?


Slightly edited, but nearly word for word:

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)IdrA takes some time out to give us a new interview and tell us what the big important news is that nobody else knows about yet

Artosis: Hello, IdrA.
IdrA: Hi.
Artosis: Nice shirt.
IdrA: Thank you.
Artosis: I heard today's the last day you're gonna be able wear that shirt.
IdrA: Apparently.
Artosis: Why is that?
IdrA: Because I'm moving to CJ tonight.
Artosis: Why is that? What's CJ? Why are you moving to CJ?
IdrA: CJ is a pro team that I've been traded to by eSTRO as part of their effort to spread foreigners to the pro gaming scene.

Artosis: Wow! How do you feel about that? That's big news.
IdrA: Yeah, it is. I'm pretty excited

Artosis: Well I mean CJ, that's a top team. You're gonna be playing with (Z)sAviOr and (T)XellOs and stuff.
IdrA: Yeah, it's pretty insane but it’s cool.

Artosis: Well you know, we know you didn't pass courage yet, but those of you that didn't know, Greg was given his pro license by eSTRO. So I guess you have a lot of good things happening for you right now.
IdrA: Yeah.
Artosis: I would say so, Jesus, so legend has it you were at WWI, CJ staff saw your games versus (P)Stork and thought that you had a lot of potential and picked you up. Confirm?
IdrA: I guess so. I don't really know the thought process behind it, but yeah, I met some of the CJ front guys and they watched me play and we talked a bit.

Artosis: Let's get to the down and dirty here. Which shirt do you like more, eSTRO shirt or CJ shirt?
IdrA: I don't think I’ve seen a CJ shirt yet.
Artosis: Well the previous CJ shirt, think of that one. Which one are you going to look more imposing in in the next WCG?
IdrA: The CJ one I guess. I don't remember what it looks like.

Artosis: Well CJ has two houses: the A team house and the B team house. Any word yet on which one you're going to?
IdrA: They mentioned I might be going to the A team house even though I'm obviously B team because the coaches spend most of the time there and they want me around the coaches but it depends on where they have space for me because I think the A team house is kinda full.
Artosis: So they're really looking at you as a player as opposed to some sort of media spectacle.
IdrA: It sounds like it. I'm not sure why else they would go out and try to trade for me.

Artosis: You know, CJ didn't do so well in Proleague this season; what’d they get, seventh or something?
IdrA: I think they were bottom four, but yeah it was … compared to their last season it was pretty depressing.
Artosis: Yeah, you think you're going to be able to help them raise that up a little bit next season?
IdrA: I don't think they really need any help. They're perennial contenders. They just had an off season; they'll be back on top.

Artosis: Alright, IdrA, say for one second here you do go to the A team house. If you could sit next to any two players, right in the middle of them, who would they be?
IdrA: Well, (T)XellOs obviously, and I dunno maybe (T)DarkElf or (T)TheManiaMST. Just a standard terran that I can learn mechanics and basic play from because (T)XellOs is going to be over my head, and I won't appreciate half the stuff he does.

Artosis: Speaking of (T)XellOs, can you sneak me out some (T)XellOs replays?
IdrA: nah
Artosis: Why not? I'm your friend … long time friend.
IdrA: Yeah, but he's (T)XellOs. That trumps you.
Artosis: Ouch. Well he is (T)XellOs; I can't really argue with that.

Artosis: So in relation to the eSTRO house where is the CJ house?
IdrA: Well the A team house is only 40 seconds away. It's in the same little villa complex thing; it’s just a short walk. I think the B team house is just 10 minutes away from there

Artosis: Are you going to keep in contact with your eSTRO buddies?
IdrA: Yeah, probably talk online and play a little bit. That kind of stuff.
Artosis: That's good. Do they know yet that you're going over there?
IdrA: I don't think so. I was told not to talk about it since they're going to make official news of this soon, so I haven't even told my teammates just to be careful.

Artosis: You think they're going to be jealous of you moving to such a prestigious team?
IdrA: I kinda imagine so, but things are looking up for eSTRO so who knows maybe they have hope.

Artosis: Alright let’s get into some stuff that will stir up some discussion on the forums.
IdrA: No kidding…
Artosis: After Korea, what's the strongest StarCraft country?
IdrA: USA of course.
Artosis: USA… wow… that's a strong statement. A lot of people would say China. What do you have to say to that?
IdrA: I don't know. I play with both, and I think I do worse versus the American players than versus the Chinese players, so that kinda implies USA is harder.

Artosis: What about the people who might think Poland is harder?
IdrA: Well they're kinda dumb because they have (P)(pl)Draco and . . . (P)(pl)Draco.

Artosis: I see and what about the people who Germany is one of the top countries?
IdrA: (Z)(de)Mondragon and three spots to qualify, so yeah they're dumber than Poland.

Artosis: The other day we were talking with the CJ coach, and they mentioned that CJ has a stricter training regimen than pretty much every single team. eSTRO right now how many hours a day are you practicing here?
IdrA: 12 hours a day right now.
Artosis: So is it even possible that CJ could be more strict than eSTRO?
IdrA: Well, I heard rumors that (P)Much practiced like 16 hours a day so it's possible, but I don't really know.

Artosis: Do you think you could take more than 12 hours a day? That has to be really hard to do.
IdrA: Well I have WCG coming up, and I kinda need to win that so that's pretty good motivation. I think I can handle it.

Artosis: Speaking of WCG USA, now last night you just qualified along with (Z)(us)Machine in an epic 2 man qualifier. How do you feel about that?
IdrA: Well it was kinda up in the air until the last second, so I was pretty nervous and tense.
Artosis: No doubt, two spots two players sounds pretty hard to me.

Artosis: WCG USA - you think you're gonna take it home this year?
IdrA: I think so, yeah. I think I have to be the favorite given that I’m playing 12 hours a day and everyone else is doing 4 max or something.

Artosis: But (P)(us)NonY is getting pretty good this year. What do you think his chances are of taking you out?
IdrA: I think he might be the next best or like the next favorite if he gets over his offline nerves, but last year he didn't really perform as well as expected. He's very skilled, but I’d be surprised if he beats me.

Artosis: USA finals - who are you most afraid of?
IdrA: Probably g5 given his style and the maps Troy and Andromeda fit him perfectly. And he’s really abusive, so that’s always scary … and best of three games

Artosis: What are your predictions for the grand final? What non-Korean country is most likely to take home a medal this year?
IdrA: Probably China and hopefully myself. Maybe (P)(pl)Draco if he practices hardcore, but I don't think he will.

Artosis: Now we're going to have the lightning answer round. I’m going to say two things you're going to say which one’s better, alright?
IdrA: Yeah

Artosis: (P)(ca)JF or (P)(us)NonY
IdrA: (P)(ca)JF

Artosis: (Z)(de)Mondragon or (Z)(se)HayprO
IdrA: (Z)(de)Mondragon

Artosis: Germany or Poland
IdrA: Poland

Artosis: Germany or Sweden
IdrA: .... who cares?

Artosis: kimchi or spaghetti
IdrA: spaghetti

Artosis: eSTRO or CJ
IdrA: CJ

Artosis: eSTRO or Air Force ACE
IdrA: ... eSTRO once (T)BoxeR leaves

Artosis: Alright, so one thing really different culture-wise in Korea from USA is everyone shares here.
IdrA: yeah
Artosis: They don't call it stealing; they call it sharing. I'm just wondering now that you're moving you're going around trying to collect all of your belongings, all of your clothes, percentage-wise how many of the original clothes you bought are you going to be leaving the house with?
IdrA: Well, of the practice clothes and stuff I wear every day, just like t-shirts and shorts, I think I’m going to walk away with around 70% of what I came with, but most of my other clothes, that I would wear outside, I still have all of those because they aren't in the laundry very much and people didn't get any chance to share them.
Artosis: You know, someone borrowed my belt and my sandals. Have you seen them?
IdrA: Nope.
Artosis: No? That sucks.
IdrA: Yes, it does.

Artosis: Leaving the eSTRO house who are you going to miss the most?
IdrA: I would have missed (T)NsP_Fancy the most because I was probably the closest with him because of the communication, but he's not in the house right now so I don't know. I guess I’m pretty close to one of the new guys, NSP_ash. He's cool.

Artosis: Yeah Chung Min, he's a cool guy, but wrong answer. You're supposed to say (T)(us)Artosis. Ouch.
IdrA: I’m still going to see you.

Everyone who is a fan of foreigners in Korea should keep an eye out for idea, as CJ Entus is his new home and he will only go up in skill and hopefully make it into pro league and do well there.

From everyone around the world, we wish you a lot of luck (T)IdrA

DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
September 03 2008 03:29 GMT
#255
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.


I'm pretty sure the kid was being cocky on purpose, maybe to just put on a show. I know if I got into CJ Entus as a player, I would do anything I wanted... Besides, his personality just has that quality of I don't give a fuck about other people's opinions, and this is a quality I respect in people. Just because he isn't some humble, mannered every day kid doesn't call for all this flame.

I absolutely love reading all the negative posts on Idra, they make my day lol. He is in korea, and you are not, THE END

milly9
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada325 Posts
September 03 2008 03:35 GMT
#256
thanks for the writeup A++++++ would read again
then i stick my treasures in a treehole
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
September 03 2008 03:38 GMT
#257
wonder what kind of deal did eStro and CJ made. Perhaps:

eStro:
+ They got player from CJ?
+ They get exclusive draft deal with CJ?
+ Perhaps new foreigner joins..?
- They lost one pro license
- something

CJ:
+ Draft deal with eStro? (could be nice when eStro is first one to get draft I suppose)
+ Foreign image
+
- Lost player?

DukE_ss
Profile Joined June 2007
United States689 Posts
September 03 2008 03:43 GMT
#258
On September 03 2008 11:22 Superiorwolf wrote:
He is definitely not one of the best foreigners. He had no right to be insulting other countries, even if they were jokes, because it's just too cocky. He was NOT the best US foreigner before he left, by far he was not. We will have to see how much he improved, but if he loses to other foreigners (Castro in Spirit) he should not be making absurd, ridiculous claims.

He DOES have the right that he should be proud and confident. But he should not be disregarding any opponents like he did. He is a good player. In fact, a great player. And, although I personally don't think him the best foreigner, he is a good representative with his determination. But it's unacceptable to talk like he did; even if it IS true, it's rude and disgusting. I wish Idra luck, and hope he is successful in his path, but he's got to get rid of this horrible aspect of him.

And for your own sake, I'd think it best for you not to call people retarded when you haven't even been provoked. Completely unnecessary.


So it's rude and disgusting because idra was being honest about what he thought?
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 03 2008 03:52 GMT
#259
Okay I read the interview again and it was never tooooooo bad, but it was still pretty bad. Look, all I was trying to do was telling the guy I quoted why people were feeling ambivalent on this interview. And Duke, it is rude and disgusting when it's complete disregard to your opponents. Keep these kinds of comments to yourself, imho: "I'd be surprised if he beat me" is just a very bad way of saying it. At least word things better, like when he was talking about G5. He didn't necessarily say he'd lose to G5, but said he was a threat. Give other players the respect they deserve.
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GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
September 03 2008 03:57 GMT
#260
On September 03 2008 12:23 poingy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 10:10 LemOn wrote:
ScFor all is completely useless without lower bandwith and Download Options....

Can someone rewrite the interview please?


Slightly edited, but nearly word for word:

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)IdrA takes some time out to give us a new interview and tell us what the big important news is that nobody else knows about yet

Artosis: Hello, IdrA.
IdrA: Hi.
Artosis: Nice shirt.
IdrA: Thank you.
Artosis: I heard today's the last day you're gonna be able wear that shirt.
IdrA: Apparently.
Artosis: Why is that?
IdrA: Because I'm moving to CJ tonight.
Artosis: Why is that? What's CJ? Why are you moving to CJ?
IdrA: CJ is a pro team that I've been traded to by eSTRO as part of their effort to spread foreigners to the pro gaming scene.

Artosis: Wow! How do you feel about that? That's big news.
IdrA: Yeah, it is. I'm pretty excited

Artosis: Well I mean CJ, that's a top team. You're gonna be playing with (Z)sAviOr and (T)XellOs and stuff.
IdrA: Yeah, it's pretty insane but it’s cool.

Artosis: Well you know, we know you didn't pass courage yet, but those of you that didn't know, Greg was given his pro license by eSTRO. So I guess you have a lot of good things happening for you right now.
IdrA: Yeah.
Artosis: I would say so, Jesus, so legend has it you were at WWI, CJ staff saw your games versus (P)Stork and thought that you had a lot of potential and picked you up. Confirm?
IdrA: I guess so. I don't really know the thought process behind it, but yeah, I met some of the CJ front guys and they watched me play and we talked a bit.

Artosis: Let's get to the down and dirty here. Which shirt do you like more, eSTRO shirt or CJ shirt?
IdrA: I don't think I’ve seen a CJ shirt yet.
Artosis: Well the previous CJ shirt, think of that one. Which one are you going to look more imposing in in the next WCG?
IdrA: The CJ one I guess. I don't remember what it looks like.

Artosis: Well CJ has two houses: the A team house and the B team house. Any word yet on which one you're going to?
IdrA: They mentioned I might be going to the A team house even though I'm obviously B team because the coaches spend most of the time there and they want me around the coaches but it depends on where they have space for me because I think the A team house is kinda full.
Artosis: So they're really looking at you as a player as opposed to some sort of media spectacle.
IdrA: It sounds like it. I'm not sure why else they would go out and try to trade for me.

Artosis: You know, CJ didn't do so well in Proleague this season; what’d they get, seventh or something?
IdrA: I think they were bottom four, but yeah it was … compared to their last season it was pretty depressing.
Artosis: Yeah, you think you're going to be able to help them raise that up a little bit next season?
IdrA: I don't think they really need any help. They're perennial contenders. They just had an off season; they'll be back on top.

Artosis: Alright, IdrA, say for one second here you do go to the A team house. If you could sit next to any two players, right in the middle of them, who would they be?
IdrA: Well, (T)XellOs obviously, and I dunno maybe (T)DarkElf or (T)TheManiaMST. Just a standard terran that I can learn mechanics and basic play from because (T)XellOs is going to be over my head, and I won't appreciate half the stuff he does.

Artosis: Speaking of (T)XellOs, can you sneak me out some (T)XellOs replays?
IdrA: nah
Artosis: Why not? I'm your friend … long time friend.
IdrA: Yeah, but he's (T)XellOs. That trumps you.
Artosis: Ouch. Well he is (T)XellOs; I can't really argue with that.

Artosis: So in relation to the eSTRO house where is the CJ house?
IdrA: Well the A team house is only 40 seconds away. It's in the same little villa complex thing; it’s just a short walk. I think the B team house is just 10 minutes away from there

Artosis: Are you going to keep in contact with your eSTRO buddies?
IdrA: Yeah, probably talk online and play a little bit. That kind of stuff.
Artosis: That's good. Do they know yet that you're going over there?
IdrA: I don't think so. I was told not to talk about it since they're going to make official news of this soon, so I haven't even told my teammates just to be careful.

Artosis: You think they're going to be jealous of you moving to such a prestigious team?
IdrA: I kinda imagine so, but things are looking up for eSTRO so who knows maybe they have hope.

Artosis: Alright let’s get into some stuff that will stir up some discussion on the forums.
IdrA: No kidding…
Artosis: After Korea, what's the strongest StarCraft country?
IdrA: USA of course.
Artosis: USA… wow… that's a strong statement. A lot of people would say China. What do you have to say to that?
IdrA: I don't know. I play with both, and I think I do worse versus the American players than versus the Chinese players, so that kinda implies USA is harder.

Artosis: What about the people who might think Poland is harder?
IdrA: Well they're kinda dumb because they have (P)(pl)Draco and . . . (P)(pl)Draco.

Artosis: I see and what about the people who Germany is one of the top countries?
IdrA: (Z)(de)Mondragon and three spots to qualify, so yeah they're dumber than Poland.

Artosis: The other day we were talking with the CJ coach, and they mentioned that CJ has a stricter training regimen than pretty much every single team. eSTRO right now how many days are you practicing here?
IdrA: 12 hours a day right now.
Artosis: So is it even possible that CJ could be more strict than eSTRO?
IdrA: Well, I heard rumors that (P)Much practiced like 16 hours a day so it's possible, but I don't really know.

Artosis: Do you think you could take more than 12 hours a day? That has to be really hard to do.
IdrA: Well I have WCG coming up, and I kinda need to win that so that's pretty good motivation. I think I can handle it.

Artosis: Speaking of WCG USA, now last night you just qualified along with (Z)(us)Machine in an epic 2 man qualifier. How do you feel about that?
IdrA: Well it was kinda up in the air until the last second, so I was pretty nervous and tense.
Artosis: No doubt, two spots two players sounds pretty hard to me.

Artosis: WCG USA - you think you're gonna take it home this year?
IdrA: I think so, yeah. I think I have to be the favorite given that I’m playing 12 hours a day and everyone else is doing 4 max or something.

Artosis: But (P)(us)NonY is getting pretty good this year. What do you think his chances are of taking you out?
IdrA: I think he might be the next best or like the next favorite if he gets over his offline nerves, but last year he didn't really perform as well as expected. He's very skilled, but I’d be surprised if he beats me.

Artosis: USA finals - who are you most afraid of?
IdrA: Probably g5 given his style and the maps Troy and Andromeda fit him perfectly. And he’s really abusive, so that’s always scary … and best of three games

Artosis: What are your predictions for the grand final? What non-Korean country is most likely to take home a medal this year?
IdrA: Probably China and hopefully myself. Maybe (P)(pl)Draco if he practices hardcore, but I don't think he will.

Artosis: Now we're going to have the lightning answer round. I’m going to say two things you're going to say which one’s better, alright?
IdrA: Yeah

Artosis: (P)(ca)JF or (P)(us)NonY
IdrA: (P)(ca)JF

Artosis: (Z)(de)Mondragon or (Z)(se)HayprO
IdrA: (Z)(de)Mondragon

Artosis: Germany or Poland
IdrA: Poland

Artosis: Germany or Sweden
IdrA: .... who cares?

Artosis: kimchi or spaghetti
IdrA: spaghetti

Artosis: eSTRO or CJ
IdrA: CJ

Artosis: eSTRO or Air Force ACE
IdrA: ... eSTRO once (T)BoxeR leaves

Artosis: Alright, so one thing really different culture-wise in Korea from USA is everyone shares here.
IdrA: yeah
Artosis: They don't call it stealing; they call it sharing. I'm just wondering now that you're moving you're going around trying to collect all of your belongings, all of your clothes, percentage-wise how many of the original clothes you bought are you going to be leaving the house with?
IdrA: Well, of the practice clothes and stuff I wear every day, just like t-shirts and shorts, I think I’m going to walk away with around 70% of what I came with, but most of my other clothes, that I would wear outside, I still have all of those because they aren't in the laundry very much and people didn't get any chance to share them.
Artosis: You know, someone borrowed my belt and my sandals. Have you seen them?
IdrA: Nope.
Artosis: No? That sucks.
IdrA: Yes, it does.

Artosis: Leaving the eSTRO house who are you going to miss the most?
IdrA: I would have missed (T)NsP_Fancy the most because I was probably the closest with him because of the communication, but he's not in the house right now so I don't know. I guess I’m pretty close to one of the new guys, NSP_ash. He's cool.

Artosis: Yeah Chung Min, he's a cool guy, but wrong answer. You're supposed to say (T)(us)Artosis. Ouch.
IdrA: I’m still going to see you.

Everyone who is a fan of foreigners in Korea should keep an eye out for idea, as CJ Entus is his new home and he will only go up in skill and hopefully make it into pro league and do well there.

From everyone around the world, we wish you a lot of luck (T)IdrA



Thanks for writing out the interview, really appreciate it. Didn't want to watch the whole thing so I just skimmed this.
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ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
September 03 2008 04:20 GMT
#261
On September 03 2008 12:52 Superiorwolf wrote:
Okay I read the interview again and it was never tooooooo bad, but it was still pretty bad. Look, all I was trying to do was telling the guy I quoted why people were feeling ambivalent on this interview. And Duke, it is rude and disgusting when it's complete disregard to your opponents. Keep these kinds of comments to yourself, imho: "I'd be surprised if he beat me" is just a very bad way of saying it. At least word things better, like when he was talking about G5. He didn't necessarily say he'd lose to G5, but said he was a threat. Give other players the respect they deserve.


you took it too seriously.
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DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
September 03 2008 04:28 GMT
#262
On September 03 2008 13:20 ilbh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 12:52 Superiorwolf wrote:
Okay I read the interview again and it was never tooooooo bad, but it was still pretty bad. Look, all I was trying to do was telling the guy I quoted why people were feeling ambivalent on this interview. And Duke, it is rude and disgusting when it's complete disregard to your opponents. Keep these kinds of comments to yourself, imho: "I'd be surprised if he beat me" is just a very bad way of saying it. At least word things better, like when he was talking about G5. He didn't necessarily say he'd lose to G5, but said he was a threat. Give other players the respect they deserve.


you took it too seriously.


The internet is serious bizness
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 03 2008 04:28 GMT
#263
I'm not the only one, yo. Just trying to explain the viewpoint that some people can't seem to get through their minds.
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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
September 03 2008 04:51 GMT
#264
On September 03 2008 11:22 Superiorwolf wrote:
He is definitely not one of the best foreigners. He had no right to be insulting other countries, even if they were jokes, because it's just too cocky. He was NOT the best US foreigner before he left, by far he was not. We will have to see how much he improved, but if he loses to other foreigners (Castro in Spirit) he should not be making absurd, ridiculous claims.

He DOES have the right that he should be proud and confident. But he should not be disregarding any opponents like he did. He is a good player. In fact, a great player. And, although I personally don't think him the best foreigner, he is a good representative with his determination. But it's unacceptable to talk like he did; even if it IS true, it's rude and disgusting. I wish Idra luck, and hope he is successful in his path, but he's got to get rid of this horrible aspect of him.

And for your own sake, I'd think it best for you not to call people retarded when you haven't even been provoked. Completely unnecessary.


Good thing I didn't say he was the best foreigner, nor did I say he was the best in the US. OH NO SOMEONE MADE A JOKE ABOUT NATIONALITY, THAT BASTARD. Do you seriously think he thinks all germans and swedes are worthless? it's a fucking joke, just because it's not 100% politically correct doesn't make him some sort of cocky arrogant scumbag who wants to slaughter and maim all germans and/or swedes.

He is quite easily the favourite - which is what he said - ask anyone and most people will say they're expecting idra to win it. He has such a ridiculous advantage over everyone else it'd be pretty fucked up if he didn't win it. At the end of the day, he is on CJ entus, while everyone else is playing on iccup out of their homes, and he has done nothing but play SC for the past 5 months or however long while everyone else still has to lead a normal life (education, job, etc.) It'd be pretty fucked up if he DIDN'T think he was going to win and I guarantee you anyone who was in the same position as him would have the same thoughts, just because he's actually honest about his feelings (something that's actually important if you want to have any sort of insight into how he feels and seeing as how he's our pioneer foreigner into the korean scene at the moment it's kind of important)

If you think some little jokes that aren't 100% PC are super offensive and make you a rude arrogant jerk you should go back to being a soccer mom
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 03 2008 04:55 GMT
#265
ok
calm down
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ChefZerg
Profile Joined April 2008
United States18 Posts
September 03 2008 04:57 GMT
#266
It's almost like he was asking him questions to stir up drama on the forums, and he....did.

Shocking!

I can't even imagine how mentally draining 12 hours of sc a day, every day, must be.

I couldn't handle it. Goodluck white boy.
Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
September 03 2008 04:57 GMT
#267
On September 03 2008 13:55 Superiorwolf wrote:
ok
calm down


rofl x2
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
September 03 2008 05:04 GMT
#268
On September 03 2008 10:39 il0seonpurpose wrote:
So that interview was like a joke right? Cuz he did sound alittle cocky at times, and his voice was indifferent to everything.


that's pretty much the way idra seems to normally act
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
September 03 2008 05:07 GMT
#269
On September 03 2008 13:57 ChefZerg wrote:
It's almost like he was asking him questions to stir up drama on the forums, and he....did.

Shocking!

I can't even imagine how mentally draining 12 hours of sc a day, every day, must be.

I couldn't handle it. Goodluck white boy.
agreed, i dont think i've ever been able to play games for more than 2-3 hours nonstop at a time
doing it all day would be crazy :O
Entusman #12
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 03 2008 05:10 GMT
#270
On September 03 2008 14:04 cujo2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 10:39 il0seonpurpose wrote:
So that interview was like a joke right? Cuz he did sound alittle cocky at times, and his voice was indifferent to everything.


that's pretty much the way idra seems to normally act


Oh, wow...

But he sounds like a guy that won't ever get a girl. His voice is just....something.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
September 03 2008 05:14 GMT
#271
that's irrelevant to sc skills. and thanks for the writeup.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Beagle23
Profile Joined August 2008
Australia52 Posts
September 03 2008 05:15 GMT
#272
On September 03 2008 14:10 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 14:04 cujo2k wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:39 il0seonpurpose wrote:
So that interview was like a joke right? Cuz he did sound alittle cocky at times, and his voice was indifferent to everything.


that's pretty much the way idra seems to normally act


Oh, wow...

But he sounds like a guy that won't ever get a girl. His voice is just....something.


qft 8)

and the people going psycho about IdrA's comments, however stupid those comments may have been, probably shouldn't take the guy so seriously. Not because I'm an IdrA fan, but because rabid nationalism makes you look stupid. So the guy doesn't think your country is better than some other country? Who gives a crap, seriously, it's not like he's personally insulting you.
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
September 03 2008 05:20 GMT
#273
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I'm like, the coolest
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
September 03 2008 06:49 GMT
#274
On September 03 2008 13:55 Superiorwolf wrote:
ok
calm down


I think that's a white flag I see
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 03 2008 06:50 GMT
#275
lol
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I8PP
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada186 Posts
September 03 2008 07:22 GMT
#276
Maybe we're too used to the generic Korean progamer interviews where they're all humble and give cookie-cutter answers to questions.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
September 03 2008 07:27 GMT
#277
On September 03 2008 16:22 I8PP wrote:
Maybe we're too used to the generic Korean progamer interviews where they're all humble and give cookie-cutter answers to questions.

"I am sorry to the fans that I was not able to give my best performance and will practice hard to make it far next season."

Imagine how much it would suck if the interview sounded like that.
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anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
September 03 2008 07:42 GMT
#278
On September 03 2008 16:27 Ancestral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 16:22 I8PP wrote:
Maybe we're too used to the generic Korean progamer interviews where they're all humble and give cookie-cutter answers to questions.

"I am sorry to the fans that I was not able to give my best performance and will practice hard to make it far next season."

Imagine how much it would suck if the interview sounded like that.

interviews need a kick in the ass

idra is here to deliver it
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
September 03 2008 08:19 GMT
#279
For the people who said Idra's decision to go to korea was stupid, remember that he got accepted to his university (don't remember which) and made sure he could come back to it after his progaming experience before hand, so even if he completely fails in korea, he still has his whole life ahead of him with a good university, with an experience only a few people in the world can boast having. He also gets paid there, along with having food/shelter/clothing etc, it's not like he's at all in a bad position lol.

I think it was fairly obvious given his previous Courage tournament it was only a matter of time until he obtained the progamer license, so I don't think it's a big deal that Estro gave it to him, it helps things go a little more smoothly here I think.

Draco said in an interview he was going 50-50 with people in OGN Sparkyz before he left, but just didn't want to put himself under the stress of the language and cultural barrier / teammates' bad manner anymore. It's on TL somewhere, I won't look for it.

The move to CJ is really cool, I hope Idra does well. The CJ coach said he's below even CJ's B team players, while Idra said he was in the middle of Estro players skill-wise, so it looks like he definitely has a lot to gain here.

Not everyone is Mondragon, expecting Idra to say anything but what he believes is silly. I thought he was a little disrespectful about the top players of the mentioned nations, I'd say Poland certainly has more than just Draco for example, but I don't think it's a big deal really, anyone who is offended and can't just say "lol what an ass" has too high a temper. I'd be surprised if Idra doesn't completely destroy wcg, I think TSL was a fluke. His only potential problem is underestimating his opponents, but hopefully that won't be a issue.

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RO.Word
Profile Joined December 2007
United Kingdom62 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-03 08:23:55
September 03 2008 08:23 GMT
#280
Why anyone here would give Idra anything but support is beyond me. Oh he is a bit BM in his interviews? So what? Do you yourself feel he's reaching ou to you and slapping you in the face? The guy's young, and as far as younger people go their personality is still being set, a bit of BM spices things up while he's busy maturing his mindset.

Sorry but if we had a foreigner over there who was hugging his teddy bear while saying how thankful he is to everyone for helping him and oh dear god how grateful he is for this oppertunity I'd be bored fuckless.

Yeah he's a bit stale in his "yank" quality of dry witless sarcasm, but even americans have time to develop that annoying trait into something either funny or dare I say witty. Go Idra.
Safe Terran
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-03 08:31:27
September 03 2008 08:31 GMT
#281
On September 03 2008 17:23 RO.Word wrote:
Yeah he's a bit stale in his "yank" quality of dry witless sarcasm, but even americans have time to develop that annoying trait into something either funny or dare I say witty. Go Idra.
UK guy make funny jokes.
UK guys jokes make me laugh.
Haha.
MC Fighting!~
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-03 08:45:12
September 03 2008 08:35 GMT
#282
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.


It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees.
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inb4RUSH
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden85 Posts
September 03 2008 23:40 GMT
#283
Oh god, people get upset of the dumbest shit.

I don't see any arrogance over Idra wether he was a BMer before or not he seems like a normal guy when talking to Artosis.
And no he didn't call Poland and Germany dumb, he said the people who think Poland and Germany are the best SC countries, are dumb.

Hey Greg, you look tired man, don't overwork yourself that shit can make everything alot tougher. Good luck in CJ, I'll be looking forward to seeing you take down some korean superstars.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
September 03 2008 23:56 GMT
#284
shiiiit congrats!!!

(i dont wanna get mixed up in this idra drama, im only here to congratulate him being in korea)
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
September 04 2008 01:23 GMT
#285
I don't really think there is a failing at this point, he kind of already made it IMO. Hopefully another foreigner gets to go soon too and try his hand at Korea.

+1 to RO.Word post
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
September 04 2008 01:43 GMT
#286
He needs to get a televised game now ! I still remember seeing Lx play =]
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
September 04 2008 02:55 GMT
#287
On September 03 2008 09:47 littlechava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 09:38 thunk wrote:
I think there's probably 5 or so foreigners that could go 50/50 in any house in Korea. Draco was probably 50/50 in OGN before he left.

I seriously doubt it.



Draco said in an interview that he was in the upper half of OGN before he left. Which means anyone that can go toe to toe with Draco now probably has a shot at going 50/50 in the OGN house. JF, Mondragon, Idra, Draco, and Nony right now could all vie for being "better than Draco".

In reality, it's all just theorycraft. We're just setting up imaginary matchups between foreigners on good days and Koreans on good days and we could argue for pages and pages over threads and threads. Which we have.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
eazo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States530 Posts
September 04 2008 03:01 GMT
#288
wow this is awesome for Idra

CJ.Idra ftw
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 04 2008 03:55 GMT
#289
draco was the undisputed best foreigner before he left (only testie, sen and maybe mondragon were close) and certainly the best foreigner when he got back

there are lots of koreans who spend years in practice houses and never really go anywhere
talent is just as important as practice

I dont think you can say that any foreigner will get better than 50/50 after a year spent at the house
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MyStiC_Chaos
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States499 Posts
September 04 2008 04:45 GMT
#290
Dunno if this was posted before, but if this was an effort to spread foreigners, does this mean there will be more foreigners in Korea soon? Interesting.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 04 2008 05:09 GMT
#291
On September 04 2008 13:45 MyStiC_Chaos wrote:
Dunno if this was posted before, but if this was an effort to spread foreigners, does this mean there will be more foreigners in Korea soon? Interesting.


Well the spirit tourney is going on, whoever wins that gets a shot at being a progamer in korea
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-04 05:15:57
September 04 2008 05:15 GMT
#292
On September 03 2008 17:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.


It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees.

Maybe, but lots of people agree with the viewpoint that I stated. I was just trying to explain why some people thought he was too cocky. I don't care if it was a realistic assessment or not, it was rude in my opinion. If you look in this thread, the WCG USA National Finals, you can see that many people put Yosh ahead of Idra, some people put Nony in front of Idra, etc. It's not right to be completely disregarding opinions of others, "I'm definitely the favorite".

I wish Idra luck, and hope he does well, as I've said before, but all I want is him to not be TOO confident that he comes off as arrogant and cocky to some people. He should be confident, though. Maybe lots of people don't find him arrogant or cocky in his interview, but if he appears arrogant / cocky to more than 30% of people, there's something that needs to be fixed.
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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
September 04 2008 05:31 GMT
#293
Just because a few people put him ahead doesn't stop him from being the favourite

being "the favourite" means the majority expects him to win

and they do

and no, there is nothing that needs to be fixed. It's a completely healthy mindset and hands down the best one to have when you're doing something like idra's doing - confidence is required. If he's disillusioned or feels unsure about what he's doing at all it's going to chip away at him til he finally quits, like Draco. Do you honestly think he gives two fucks about what a bunch of randoms on TL think of him anyway? There are always going to be haters and there are always going to be sheltered fools who expect his interview to be 100% respectful to everything rather than what he actually thinks
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 04 2008 08:40 GMT
#294
On September 04 2008 14:15 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2008 17:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.


It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees.

Maybe, but lots of people agree with the viewpoint that I stated. I was just trying to explain why some people thought he was too cocky. I don't care if it was a realistic assessment or not, it was rude in my opinion. If you look in this thread, the WCG USA National Finals, you can see that many people put Yosh ahead of Idra, some people put Nony in front of Idra, etc. It's not right to be completely disregarding opinions of others, "I'm definitely the favorite".


Ok, IdrA IS definitely the favourite to win WCG USA. This is nothing against ANY of the players competing, but simply because some people think Nony or Yosh are more likely to win doesn't make that accurate. I don't see how "disregarding their opinion" comes into it. Those people are wrong.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7888 Posts
September 04 2008 09:24 GMT
#295
I never really liked IdrA. This interview made me really unconfortable, dunno why. Find him really dry, as I find his gamestyle is.

I would actually be quite happy to see another player win the WCG USA.
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araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
September 04 2008 10:18 GMT
#296
so much trash here... let the guy alone.
you will eventually get your questions answered

I say - Congrats Idra
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
September 04 2008 10:32 GMT
#297
If idra puts up results I could care less about his absent personality. Which is just like anybody else who plays video games 10 or more hours a day surrounded with people speaking a langauge you do not.

90% of the korean pro's are 100% boring in everyway. Their interviews for the most part suck, because outside of pro gamming they don't have time to do much.

He was doing it on purpose with Dans encouragement. Look at the name of the link. They were TRYING to stirr things up. I feel bad for every moron who actually responded in anger to a MOCK interview. It was done to get a laugh off of you guys!

P.S Nony CRUSH HIM PLEASE, if there is any type of meditation or prayer I can say for you just ask, I'm down. Cost him a flight and then join him in korea!
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
September 08 2008 21:53 GMT
#298
bump~

IdrA what's new?
w/e
Juanpe
Profile Joined May 2008
Uruguay283 Posts
September 08 2008 22:13 GMT
#299
Irony ftw:

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SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
September 08 2008 22:49 GMT
#300
Idra clearly burned his old Estro team in that one. Ouch.

It'd be cool if he had a blog of some sort so that we'd know more about what happens while he practices for these teams. Really interested about CJ Entus style and the people in it. That way we wouldn't have to wait months for interviews
a
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
September 08 2008 22:49 GMT
#301
I want to see that face on my gomplayer
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
WingSandrockX
Profile Joined January 2007
Korea (North)1164 Posts
September 09 2008 01:55 GMT
#302
--- Nuked ---
PoP-sicle
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada418 Posts
September 09 2008 02:50 GMT
#303
new interview up!
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-09 02:52:17
September 09 2008 02:51 GMT
#304
I just saw it too, it was pretty good. Im very happy that hes enjoying himself.

+ Show Spoiler +
Idra > Darkelf
sizcyp
Profile Joined April 2006
145 Posts
September 09 2008 03:07 GMT
#305
Idra is currently living in B team house
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 09 2008 03:15 GMT
#306
link here for anyone wondering:
http://www.scforall.com/sctv/sc_tv01.asp?mNum=s03&movNum=100
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OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
September 09 2008 03:21 GMT
#307
Good to hear Idra seems to be adjusting well.

+ Show Spoiler +
Paintball Terran Fighting!
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
September 09 2008 03:30 GMT
#308
You have to hug savior!!!
-,-
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
September 09 2008 04:08 GMT
#309
hahaha; video of the paintball match would be hilarious.
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
September 09 2008 04:25 GMT
#310
he has no charisma haha
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
September 09 2008 04:48 GMT
#311
my god that interview was boring.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
September 09 2008 07:16 GMT
#312
Gl IdrA
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7888 Posts
September 09 2008 09:08 GMT
#313
On September 04 2008 17:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2008 14:15 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 17:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.


It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees.

Maybe, but lots of people agree with the viewpoint that I stated. I was just trying to explain why some people thought he was too cocky. I don't care if it was a realistic assessment or not, it was rude in my opinion. If you look in this thread, the WCG USA National Finals, you can see that many people put Yosh ahead of Idra, some people put Nony in front of Idra, etc. It's not right to be completely disregarding opinions of others, "I'm definitely the favorite".


Ok, IdrA IS definitely the favourite to win WCG USA. This is nothing against ANY of the players competing, but simply because some people think Nony or Yosh are more likely to win doesn't make that accurate. I don't see how "disregarding their opinion" comes into it. Those people are wrong.


Well, Idra is maybe very good but saying "I am definitly the best" sucks. I'm sure if you ask Jaedong if he is the best player in the world, he will start to tell you about other good players like Flash or Best. That's called humility, and I guess it's somehow necessary to become great.

Imo, laking that much humility is a very, very bad start to become a champion.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 09 2008 09:44 GMT
#314
On September 09 2008 18:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2008 17:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 04 2008 14:15 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 17:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.


It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees.

Maybe, but lots of people agree with the viewpoint that I stated. I was just trying to explain why some people thought he was too cocky. I don't care if it was a realistic assessment or not, it was rude in my opinion. If you look in this thread, the WCG USA National Finals, you can see that many people put Yosh ahead of Idra, some people put Nony in front of Idra, etc. It's not right to be completely disregarding opinions of others, "I'm definitely the favorite".


Ok, IdrA IS definitely the favourite to win WCG USA. This is nothing against ANY of the players competing, but simply because some people think Nony or Yosh are more likely to win doesn't make that accurate. I don't see how "disregarding their opinion" comes into it. Those people are wrong.


Well, Idra is maybe very good but saying "I am definitly the best" sucks. I'm sure if you ask Jaedong if he is the best player in the world, he will start to tell you about other good players like Flash or Best. That's called humility, and I guess it's somehow necessary to become great.

Imo, laking that much humility is a very, very bad start to become a champion.


Well, in IdrA's case you gotta realize it's all perspective. He knows he ain't shit compared to the entire CJ B team, he's told me as much. I think that saying you've got to be the favourite to win wcg usa because you play over ten hours a day every day isn't really very cocky.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
iori_LT
Profile Joined May 2003
Lithuania675 Posts
September 09 2008 09:51 GMT
#315
On September 09 2008 13:48 CTStalker wrote:
my god that interview was boring.

addicted to TL.net
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
September 09 2008 10:07 GMT
#316
Any games out with Idra playing ?
Want to see his improvement, I'm curious
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
September 09 2008 10:09 GMT
#317
IdrA, in the CJ team tournament, who finished 1st and did you lose all your games or did you win some?

Cheers
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
September 09 2008 10:18 GMT
#318
On September 09 2008 18:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2008 17:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 04 2008 14:15 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 17:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.


It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees.

Maybe, but lots of people agree with the viewpoint that I stated. I was just trying to explain why some people thought he was too cocky. I don't care if it was a realistic assessment or not, it was rude in my opinion. If you look in this thread, the WCG USA National Finals, you can see that many people put Yosh ahead of Idra, some people put Nony in front of Idra, etc. It's not right to be completely disregarding opinions of others, "I'm definitely the favorite".


Ok, IdrA IS definitely the favourite to win WCG USA. This is nothing against ANY of the players competing, but simply because some people think Nony or Yosh are more likely to win doesn't make that accurate. I don't see how "disregarding their opinion" comes into it. Those people are wrong.


Well, Idra is maybe very good but saying "I am definitly the best" sucks. I'm sure if you ask Jaedong if he is the best player in the world, he will start to tell you about other good players like Flash or Best. That's called humility, and I guess it's somehow necessary to become great.

Imo, laking that much humility is a very, very bad start to become a champion.


Really man just look why he is saying im definantly the favorite, mabey its got something to do with hes playing like three times what the other guys are, look at whats happeing before blindly flaming

Anyway i hope idra goes far, he has the skills to make it
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InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
September 16 2008 20:54 GMT
#319
bump~


Greg tell us about yourself please! ^_^
w/e
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 16 2008 21:02 GMT
#320
On September 09 2008 18:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2008 17:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 04 2008 14:15 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 17:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.


It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees.

Maybe, but lots of people agree with the viewpoint that I stated. I was just trying to explain why some people thought he was too cocky. I don't care if it was a realistic assessment or not, it was rude in my opinion. If you look in this thread, the WCG USA National Finals, you can see that many people put Yosh ahead of Idra, some people put Nony in front of Idra, etc. It's not right to be completely disregarding opinions of others, "I'm definitely the favorite".


Ok, IdrA IS definitely the favourite to win WCG USA. This is nothing against ANY of the players competing, but simply because some people think Nony or Yosh are more likely to win doesn't make that accurate. I don't see how "disregarding their opinion" comes into it. Those people are wrong.


Well, Idra is maybe very good but saying "I am definitly the best" sucks. I'm sure if you ask Jaedong if he is the best player in the world, he will start to tell you about other good players like Flash or Best. That's called humility, and I guess it's somehow necessary to become great.

Imo, laking that much humility is a very, very bad start to become a champion.


About being modest, or having humility, do people say it to sound good or do they really think that? just curious

fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 16 2008 21:04 GMT
#321
On September 09 2008 19:09 Elsi wrote:
IdrA, in the CJ team tournament, who finished 1st and did you lose all your games or did you win some?

Cheers


I want to know this too :O
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Krigstar
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden77 Posts
September 16 2008 22:06 GMT
#322
They obviously more often say it cause it's considered rude to be arrogant.

My oversimplified, extremely generalized and slightly america-mockingly interpretation is this:

Question: Who are allowed to talk like they are the best in starcraft?

Korean: The starleague champion.
Non-American: Koreans.
American: We talk before, after and during games, no matter the results.

ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
September 16 2008 23:43 GMT
#323
On September 17 2008 06:02 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2008 18:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 04 2008 17:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 04 2008 14:15 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 17:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote:
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote:
i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra.



Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic.


Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him!

He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames.


It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees.

Maybe, but lots of people agree with the viewpoint that I stated. I was just trying to explain why some people thought he was too cocky. I don't care if it was a realistic assessment or not, it was rude in my opinion. If you look in this thread, the WCG USA National Finals, you can see that many people put Yosh ahead of Idra, some people put Nony in front of Idra, etc. It's not right to be completely disregarding opinions of others, "I'm definitely the favorite".


Ok, IdrA IS definitely the favourite to win WCG USA. This is nothing against ANY of the players competing, but simply because some people think Nony or Yosh are more likely to win doesn't make that accurate. I don't see how "disregarding their opinion" comes into it. Those people are wrong.


Well, Idra is maybe very good but saying "I am definitly the best" sucks. I'm sure if you ask Jaedong if he is the best player in the world, he will start to tell you about other good players like Flash or Best. That's called humility, and I guess it's somehow necessary to become great.

Imo, laking that much humility is a very, very bad start to become a champion.


About being modest, or having humility, do people say it to sound good or do they really think that? just curious

I think there are plenty of people out there that don't like arrogance.
MC Fighting!~
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
September 16 2008 23:58 GMT
#324
why is everyone always such a romanian about american player's "bm"
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
September 17 2008 12:26 GMT
#325
New video http://www.scforall.com/sctv/sc_tv01.asp?mNum=s01

!!
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
September 17 2008 12:29 GMT
#326
mohommed ali was a cocky guy wasnt he?

esport, real sport, w/e
if you're good, you're good.
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-17 12:40:27
September 17 2008 12:40 GMT
#327
ali had charisma and a cool history, also he back his shit up and ye well he is american so it was expected anyways
Bergkamp ftw!
ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-17 13:30:03
September 17 2008 13:26 GMT
#328
On September 17 2008 21:29 jjun212 wrote:
mohommed ali was a cocky guy wasnt he?

esport, real sport, w/e
if you're good, you're good.


dude you cannot compare idra to ALI

ALI was a champion, and he was playful cocky.

idra is just seriously cocky

IMO you only have the "right" to boast if you can back it up,
idra cannot back up that he is the best foreigner at the moment, he didn't even get anywhere in the TSL when he was pinned up against the best foreigners!

and even then humility makes the better champion.
go OVERSKY MODE!
n3m0
Profile Joined January 2007
Portugal247 Posts
September 17 2008 13:45 GMT
#329
I think ray speaks the truth :p Just look @ José Mourinho now Internazionale coach, he's the cockiest soccer coach i've ever seen but he can back it up : D
Former WGT Clan League Admin - Former Portugal A team manager - Former member of MgZ) / iG. / LRM) - Starcraft Broodwar
iloveoil
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway171 Posts
September 17 2008 13:48 GMT
#330
On September 17 2008 21:29 jjun212 wrote:
mohommed ali was a cocky guy wasnt he?

esport, real sport, w/e
if you're good, you're good.


he's not good ;p he's a publicity stunt
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
September 17 2008 14:12 GMT
#331
Lol he's not good? He's only cocky in context of the foreigner scene, and he's definitely good there. One of the best.

He got to ro16 in TSL and ran into a very tough opponent in white-ra. If you go by that then you can say that Mondragon didn't get anywhere, either. The TSL was months ago as well.
Fad-D
Profile Joined September 2005
United Kingdom42 Posts
September 17 2008 14:22 GMT
#332
mate if i was in cj i would so bum xellos and savior, they wud be my new best friends, i think idra should best-befriend them, u wud have the ultimate badass crew and be a king in korea, wherever you go a path made of gold would be laid before you along with a long line of hot groupies.
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iloveoil
Profile Joined June 2008
Norway171 Posts
September 17 2008 14:27 GMT
#333
wow man, ro16, thats p. hardcore

V6
Profile Joined February 2008
147 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-17 14:38:30
September 17 2008 14:35 GMT
#334
I will never cheer for that dude ever! Even if I WANT TOOOO cheer for the foreigner, I just cant, his boring game style and his personality really buggs me. So sad : (

It's ok to flame me.

But I still hope he make it far so I can cheer for everyone he play.
stuzH
Profile Joined September 2011
United States56 Posts
December 17 2012 18:32 GMT
#335
I hope he enjoys his stay before going to EG

User was temp banned for this post.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 17 2012 18:35 GMT
#336
lol what a necro.
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