EPTInterview about the move and some other controversial stuff!
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IdrA goes to CJ Entus
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Artosis
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Interview about the move and some other controversial stuff! Discuss. | ||
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DamageControL
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bioboyAT
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clazziquai
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goodluck IdrA :D | ||
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pinenamu
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CaucasianAsian
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Nyovne
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p.s. send me a shit if I don't win one nig <3. Lal :D | ||
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merz
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Wabe
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TheNikeYork
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Kickstart
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Video was pretty cool too. "Whos better Germany or Sweden?" "Who cares?!" <-- i lol'd | ||
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
BTW: seriously, good luck. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
IdrA already got the CJ face bitches! | ||
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d1v
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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oshibori_probe
United States2932 Posts
On September 02 2008 11:41 ShadowDrgn wrote: CJ has such a stacked lineup so I'm not holding out too much hope of Idra playing in proleague this season, but we can hope. We can have a realistic hope of him playing in minor leagues. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
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BigBucketz
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Anyhow go IdrA!  | ||
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alffla
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OrderlyChaos
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
GREG IS FREEEEEE | ||
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G5
United States2873 Posts
They said if he went 50/50 in the in-house tourney (everyone plays everyone), they would give him a pro license. He accomplished this and didn't have to go through courage. (I believe) Oh and of course. Congrats Greg. God speed~ | ||
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GTR
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:04 GTR-2-Go wrote: What do eSTRO get in return btw? :O Probably some amateur who has nowhere near the amount of charm and bold sex appeal of IdrA | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:04 GTR-2-Go wrote: What do eSTRO get in return btw? :O Probably some cash considerations and a bag of peanuts. | ||
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
Least likeable progamer in Korea? It's pretty close. | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
On September 02 2008 11:23 Artosis wrote: WOW. This is GREAT news for Idra, I got to be frank, he could only rise so far under Estro. But, I have to say, Idra will get a lot less game time early into his career, and moving into a totally new environment may be detrimental to his morale. I have faith in Idra though, and CJ, gogo!in an effort to spread foreigners amongst the proteams, IdrA has been sent to CJ Entus from eSTRO. hes quite excited about the move, and its really a big step in the right direction for foreigners in korea, imo. Interview about the move and some other controversial stuff! Discuss. | ||
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IzzyCraft
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Cham
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On September 02 2008 11:26 bioboyAT wrote: i guess not, he didn't win a courage tournament yet, right ? You can be handed out a license from a team. | ||
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FlameD[TOp]
Canada247 Posts
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote: Why are you here?Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/ | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
He needs to work on his on-air personality. He seemed totally drained or tired or something. Didnt hear any motivation in his vioce. His over the top douche-baggery is going to strengthen people's believe that americans are arrogant douches. | ||
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ScarFace
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Sadist
United States7205 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote: Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/ Its what he wants to do, its not like he cant come back and go to a Community College for a year or 2 (dunno what is current academic prognosis looks like just) then go to a university. He gets to experience another culture and go for something that he really wants to do, more power to him. however if played bw 12 hrs a day id literally murder myself. You have to REALLY like the game to do that, 12 hrs a day of just about anything has to make it miserable. | ||
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TheNikeYork
United States389 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:21 Sadist wrote: Its what he wants to do, its not like he cant come back and go to a Community College for a year or 2 (dunno what is current academic prognosis looks like just) then go to a university. He gets to experience another culture and go for something that he really wants to do, more power to him. however if played bw 12 hrs a day id literally murder myself. You have to REALLY like the game to do that, 12 hrs a day of just about anything has to make it miserable. That's why it's called a job. | ||
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FlameD[TOp]
Canada247 Posts
I want to know the reasoning why he's in korea. | ||
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G5
United States2873 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote: Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/ Poll: Ban this nerd? (Vote): Yes! This kids a moron! (Vote): No! I support BM! | ||
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404.Nintu
Canada1723 Posts
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Sadist
United States7205 Posts
12 hrs a day isnt a normal workday for most people. Not to mention hes doing it everyday (maybe he gets weekends off?) Theres no way in hell I could do that =-) | ||
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il0seonpurpose
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
to the person above me, I presume Estro is going to pick some foreigners up through the spirit tournie, and this ensures that all the foreigners arent clustered in one team. | ||
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DanceCommander
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On September 02 2008 11:26 DamageControL wrote: He got his pro license?? estro made an exception for him before he moved to cj he should be a progamer and not have to do courage anymore I think (pretty sure it was the same thing done for pj/lx/draco) | ||
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OrderlyChaos
United States1115 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:28 ScarFace wrote: Hey, can anyone link me to a video/replay of Idra vs Stork, I've never seen it. to the person above me, I presume Estro is going to pick some foreigners up through the spirit tournie, and this ensures that all the foreigners arent clustered in one team. http://fighterreplays.com/starcraft/replays/d87392 | ||
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sMi.SyMPhOnY
United States226 Posts
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Tomed
United States176 Posts
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pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:23 FlameD[TOp] wrote: I want to know the reasoning why he's in korea. He didn't like his chances at the TeamLiquid CJ Shirt Lottery, so he took matters into his own hands. | ||
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote: Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/ lol who the fuck are you? I hope you get banned.. what humors me is that you would say this on the 1# sc progaming site for foreigners in the world | ||
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
so long has CJ has some staff that speak english it should be ok for idra. hopefully he likes the move. GL idra | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
Edit: Idra: I was told not to talk about it, until they've made a official announcement. | ||
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EGMachine
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[GiTM]-Ace
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Alizee-
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On September 02 2008 11:30 Nyovne wrote: Unless I see Idra with a C(-_-)J face he ain't going anywhere! p.s. send me a shit if I don't win one nig <3. Lal :D Typo of the year | ||
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GTR
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http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue | ||
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operwolf
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Zidane
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lokiM
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WeSt
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 anyway, gl hf | ||
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sqwert
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Fuck yes, CJ is the best team ever. | ||
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
That interview was hilarious. IdrA is so awesome. GL to you Idra | ||
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Astrogation
United States477 Posts
"who cares?" lollllllllllllll | ||
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dream-_-
United States1857 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote: Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/ fun? money isnt the only thing you should base your career choice on =/ | ||
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dream-_-
United States1857 Posts
Still its somewhat of a shame that he was chosen, NOT BECAUSE OF HIS SKILL I DONT KNOW HOW GOOD/BAD HE IS DONT GET THE WRONG IDEA(wanted to clarify for the flame happy idiots), but because he isnt the greatest representation of the foreign bw scene on a personal level. He seems to be just sort of the standard stereotype of a nerdy usa bw gamer, although I suppose thats to be expected. Its a stereotype for a reason. | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
Go the tiger! | ||
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TheTyranid
Russian Federation4333 Posts
Can somebody please post it or translate: On September 02 2008 12:54 GTR-2-Go wrote: Korean News Article http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue | ||
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eX-Corgh
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Unbelievable237
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
I hope there will be people for him to talk to like in eStro. | ||
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alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
but+ Show Spoiler + work on your interview skills as well as your gaming  | ||
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Luddite
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Zidane
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iloveHieu
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:54 GTR-2-Go wrote: PLEASE tell me what they're saying on the comments PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!1111Korean News Article http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue | ||
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ProTech_MediC
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Zidane
United States1685 Posts
On September 02 2008 13:55 VIB wrote: PLEASE tell me what they're saying on the comments PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!1111 I'm curious too, although its prolly like, rofl white boy rofl korea rofl fail. | ||
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zulu_nation8
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On September 02 2008 14:05 zulu_nation8 wrote: He's certainly improved a lot by going 50/50 in inhouse and getting his pro license. But "spreading foreigners out"??? There's only one foreigner in progaming and the last one was on ogn. Anyways congratulatons Idra hope to see you on TV soon. Presumably (hopefully) this means Estro is going to recruit some other foreigner soon, since they seem the most inclined to do so. | ||
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hi19hi19
United States163 Posts
On September 02 2008 13:55 VIB wrote: PLEASE tell me what they're saying on the comments PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!1111 A couple about him being 19 years old, though I can't tell why that's important from the context. One of them saying he's not the same as Draco because he can adapt or something like that. There's one comment about his nose, I think (lol) EDIT okay no, I'm dreaming ignore that one A few are saying CJ is a better team in general, and there's a few saying it's a good move and that IdrA can grow. That's what I gather, though I'm not that good at Korean yet. | ||
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shavingcream66
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EGMachine
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azndsh
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Ynot_Fighting
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Realpenguin
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but I am really amazed, you can already see his -_- face going on | ||
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
On September 02 2008 14:10 Machine[USA] wrote: ROFL! has it really happened? | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
It's a parody. Go Idra! Congrats! | ||
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Athos
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lxginverse
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he'll get to know the secrets of the art of DDRing from Xellos :p | ||
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NeverTheEndlessWiz
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
On September 02 2008 14:40 lxginverse wrote: wow good for idra he'll get to know the secrets of the art of DDRing from Xellos :p he'll put that "stronger lower right arm" that Daniel Lee talks about to good use :o rofl gj though IdrA, you're my favorite player!! gl | ||
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Juanpe
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anch
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made us look like fuking suckers. | ||
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TheTyranid
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InfeSteD
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
. Sick life, Greg good luck @ CJ! | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On September 02 2008 14:48 Juanpe wrote: Wtf new cleaning service members for CJ? LOL but where's his toilet scrubber? | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On September 02 2008 14:07 hi19hi19 wrote: What else?? WAT WATA couple about him being 19 years old, though I can't tell why that's important from the context. One of them saying he's not the same as Draco because he can adapt or something like that. There's one comment about his nose, I think (lol) EDIT okay no, I'm dreaming ignore that one A few are saying CJ is a better team in general, and there's a few saying it's a good move and that IdrA can grow. That's what I gather, though I'm not that good at Korean yet. | ||
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G5
United States2873 Posts
manner | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
Anyways good job IdrA, We want to see you in Proleague!!! :D | ||
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H
New Zealand6138 Posts
On September 02 2008 15:49 G.s)NarutO wrote: So, did he receive a pro licence from CJ? Or did he win a courage tournament?^_^ Anyways good job IdrA, We want to see you in Proleague!!! :D He got a pro license after winning an in-house eSTRO tournament, who then traded him to CJ. | ||
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FConnectionUK
United States316 Posts
지난 4월, IEG(International E-sports Group)에서 개최한 ‘스타크래프트 토너먼트 시즌1’ 북미지역 챔피언, 그렉 필즈 (Greg Fields; 아이디:Idra. 종족: 테란)가 CJ 엔투스 프로게임단에 합류하게 되었다. Last April, Greg Fields (Id: Idra. Race: Terran), the North American winner of 'Starcraft Tournament Season One sponsored by IEG (International E-sports Group), joined up with CJ Entus Progaming Team. 최근 4개월여 ‘이스트로’ 프로게임단에서 연습생 활동을 지속해왔던 그렉 필즈는 미국 뉴저지 출신으로 올해 만 19세. 미국 고등학교 졸업 후 곧바로 한국으로 건너와 현재까지는 한국 선수들의 경기 스타일과 모국에는 접할 수 없었던 한국 프로게이머들의 문화 등을 직접 체험하는데 중점을 두고 생활했다. Greg Fields, who has been 'Estro' Pro-Team practice partner for last four months, is from New Jersey, USA and is 19 years old. He came over to Korea as soon as he graduated from the high school and is now living and fully experiencing the culture of Progaming which is only available here in Korea. 과거, 문화적 차이, 언어 장벽 등을 이유로 한국 생활에 실패한 여타 해외 출신 프로게이머와는 달리 빠른 적응력을 보여온 그렉은 “CJ엔투스와 같은 명문 게임단에 입단할 수 있다는 것이 꿈만 같다. 주어진 기회를 놓치지 않고 최선을 다하여 최고의 선수가 되고 싶다”고 그 소감을 전했다. With incredibly fast adapting, Greg, unlike any of his preceders who failed due to their past, cultural differences, language barrier... etc., claimed "It is an honor to be a part of such famous team like of CJ Entus. With this given opportunity, I'll make the best use of it and become the best." 이미 해외 스타크래프트 팬 커뮤니티 사이에서는 최고의 유망주로 기대 받고 있는 그이지만 아직 한국의 벽은 높기만 한 것이 사실이다. CJ 엔투스 조규남 감독은 “아직 CJ엔투스 2군 선수들의 기량에도 못 미칠 정도의 수준이나, 기본기가 탄탄하고 여타 해외 선수와는 다르게 성실한 연습태도와 정신력을 가졌기에 향후 높은 발전이 기대된다”고 밝혔다. It is true, much faith is placed upon him among the leading foreign Starcraft Fan Communities. However, it is also true that the challenge(skill gap) given by Korea is just as big. CJ Entus Coach Jo Gyu Nam said in an interview, "his skill does not even reach that of our 2nd team players, yet he has a solid mechanic/basic and is highly determined and motivated. I put much hope that he will improve drastically." 지난 e스포츠의 역사에는 ‘기욤 패트리’, ‘베르뜨랑’과 같은 유명 해외 선수들이 한 축을 이루던 시절이 있었다. 단신의 몸으로 한국 메이저리그에서의 성공을 꿈꾸는 Greg의 행보에 귀추가 주목된다. There once was a time in e-Sports when the foreign players such as Giyom and Elky played a huge role. And now watch out for Greg who is striving to be even more successful in Korea. | ||
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Descent
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Zidane
United States1685 Posts
On September 02 2008 14:10 Machine[USA] wrote: You win for this post. Actually if you look at the video interview, the guy getting owned by water is like the rest of the EStro team eh? | ||
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LonelyMargarita
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I know we have plans for a signed CJ shirt (by whom?) for charity auction, but imagine how much one would get signed by the whole team! We could cure cancer! | ||
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New Zealand6138 Posts
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
On September 02 2008 15:47 G5 wrote: manner ppl manner oh we're just poking fun, it's all good man i love Idra | ||
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
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Xiberia
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:14 FlameD[TOp] wrote: Why would he want to go pro in starcraft... it's not like he's going to make money in it... He's from the U.S. right? ;/ did he really have no potential of getting a better paying job or is he just following some diluted dream ;/ you're a fucking idiot. do you know how much fun he's having in korea playing sc against pros? he's followed his dreams while fags like you sit back and pretend to be smarter/better when you're not. attitudes like yours lead you to meritocracy; some people strive for things higher than that. | ||
Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
Congrats, and good luck. | ||
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morfyy
Romania593 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
And about the "free license" thing, its the right thing to do. Koreans get officialised in pro gaming by getting their license, but they're already integrated in it for some time before. A foreigner in Korea would have to get a license to get integrated. 16 hours a day is bad for the brain tho >.> At my time, foreigner's practice style was like : Restaurant, nightclub, hotel. Wake up, midle of afternoon when hangover is done, play some SC for fun, then : restaurant, nightclub, hotel all over again >.> (I never won anything, Grrrr.. did however with same schedule type >.> ) | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On September 02 2008 17:34 Boonbag wrote: Hed better not get his ass handed @ wcg now. And about the "free license" thing, its the right thing to do. Koreans get officialised in pro gaming by getting their license, but they're already integrated in it for some time before. A foreigner in Korea would have to get a license to get integrated. 16 hours a day is bad for the brain tho >.> At my time, foreigner's practice style was like : Restaurant, nightclub, hotel. Wake up, midle of afternoon when hangover is done, play some SC for fun, then : restaurant, nightclub, hotel all over again >.> $5 says he does. -_-; his attitude is so shitty though, but gl. flame me all you want but he lacks charisma and shit that draco has. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On September 02 2008 17:58 Raithed wrote: He's not an example of manners but I it seems more like he's just trying to be funny in the interview :p Don't take it seriously.$5 says he does. -_-; his attitude is so shitty though, but gl. flame me all you want but he lacks charisma and shit that draco has. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On September 02 2008 17:00 MyLostTemple wrote: you're a fucking idiot. do you know how much fun he's having in korea playing sc against pros? he's followed his dreams while fags like you sit back and pretend to be smarter/better when you're not. attitudes like yours lead you to meritocracy; some people strive for things higher than that. Yeah QFT, flame your a dick head Clearly you have no intrest in sc or you would understand why he wants to follow his dream, and thats not diluted, looking at everything through money is whats diluted | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On September 02 2008 18:12 Scaramanga wrote: Yeah QFT, flame your a dick head Clearly you have no intrest in sc or you would understand why he wants to follow his dream, and thats not diluted, looking at everything through money is whats diluted IdrA is a big idiot if your definition of an idiot is a person who lives his dream(s). IdrA can when he will drop out of progaming in the future still get a job, maybe in Korea even if he wants to. He learnes a foreign language and culture. He lives his fucking dream and makes the best out of it. Cut the envy. Maybe he can become Translator (English/Korean because perfect English and Korean speaking people are rare!)! IdrA best of luck - go and own! | ||
zatic
Zurich15315 Posts
On September 02 2008 17:00 MyLostTemple wrote: you're a fucking idiot. do you know how much fun he's having in korea playing sc against pros? he's followed his dreams while fags like you sit back and pretend to be smarter/better when you're not. attitudes like yours lead you to meritocracy; some people strive for things higher than that. Did you mean mediocrity? I don't see how sitting back and taking the save and easy road will lead to meritocracy nor that meritocracy is a bad thing. | ||
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Elric
United Kingdom1327 Posts
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NathanEO
Germany254 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
GL Idra, just be yourself because clearly it's working great so far. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
But Idra achieved a lot in little time. Not many people can do what he did. | ||
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
On September 02 2008 17:34 Boonbag wrote: Hey its that guy that had great stories but then stopped telling us about them.Hed better not get his ass handed @ wcg now. And about the "free license" thing, its the right thing to do. Koreans get officialised in pro gaming by getting their license, but they're already integrated in it for some time before. A foreigner in Korea would have to get a license to get integrated. 16 hours a day is bad for the brain tho >.> At my time, foreigner's practice style was like : Restaurant, nightclub, hotel. Wake up, midle of afternoon when hangover is done, play some SC for fun, then : restaurant, nightclub, hotel all over again >.> (I never won anything, Grrrr.. did however with same schedule type >.> ) | ||
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isbunk
Sweden1017 Posts
On September 02 2008 17:58 Raithed wrote: $5 says he does. -_-; his attitude is so shitty though, but gl. flame me all you want but he lacks charisma and shit that draco has. I totally agree. It's hard to root for someone who seems so not at all exited about getting such an amazing opportunity and someone who has such a horrible attitude towards the rest of the non Korean community. If anything, he should be praising all the crappy countries in these kind of interviews, considering the fact that he now is somewhat of a pro gamer and should, according to me, at least try to act as such. Hopefully he'll get some media training before anything else in the CJ house. To be honest I'd rather see NonY, Draco, Mondragon, JF, ClouD or anyone with at least some charisma or someone who would show some enthusiasm for that huge huuuuuuuuge shot. Anyways, i hope he does good, and that's only because a foreigner needs to do well. Other then that i hope he fails in his post-korea gaming career. God what a huge d**k. | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
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Pellucidity
Netherlands377 Posts
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
On September 02 2008 19:03 yubee wrote: UGH holy shit watching that reminded me of a porno so much Lol~ You actually watch that part? I just fastforward it man. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Highways
Australia6098 Posts
On September 02 2008 15:58 FConnectionUK wrote: http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue 지난 4월, IEG(International E-sports Group)에서 개최한 ‘스타크래프트 토너먼트 시즌1’ 북미지역 챔피언, 그렉 필즈 (Greg Fields; 아이디:Idra. 종족: 테란)가 CJ 엔투스 프로게임단에 합류하게 되었다. Last April, Greg Fields (Id: Idra. Race: Terran), the North American winner of 'Starcraft Tournament Season One sponsored by IEG (International E-sports Group), joined up with CJ Entus Progaming Team. 최근 4개월여 ‘이스트로’ 프로게임단에서 연습생 활동을 지속해왔던 그렉 필즈는 미국 뉴저지 출신으로 올해 만 19세. 미국 고등학교 졸업 후 곧바로 한국으로 건너와 현재까지는 한국 선수들의 경기 스타일과 모국에는 접할 수 없었던 한국 프로게이머들의 문화 등을 직접 체험하는데 중점을 두고 생활했다. Greg Fields, who has been 'Estro' Pro-Team practice partner for last four months, is from New Jersey, USA and is 19 years old. He came over to Korea as soon as he graduated from the high school and is now living and fully experiencing the culture of Progaming which is only available here in Korea. 과거, 문화적 차이, 언어 장벽 등을 이유로 한국 생활에 실패한 여타 해외 출신 프로게이머와는 달리 빠른 적응력을 보여온 그렉은 “CJ엔투스와 같은 명문 게임단에 입단할 수 있다는 것이 꿈만 같다. 주어진 기회를 놓치지 않고 최선을 다하여 최고의 선수가 되고 싶다”고 그 소감을 전했다. With incredibly fast adapting, Greg, unlike any of his preceders who failed due to their past, cultural differences, language barrier... etc., claimed "It is an honor to be a part of such famous team like of CJ Entus. With this given opportunity, I'll make the best use of it and become the best." 이미 해외 스타크래프트 팬 커뮤니티 사이에서는 최고의 유망주로 기대 받고 있는 그이지만 아직 한국의 벽은 높기만 한 것이 사실이다. CJ 엔투스 조규남 감독은 “아직 CJ엔투스 2군 선수들의 기량에도 못 미칠 정도의 수준이나, 기본기가 탄탄하고 여타 해외 선수와는 다르게 성실한 연습태도와 정신력을 가졌기에 향후 높은 발전이 기대된다”고 밝혔다. It is true, much faith is placed upon him among the leading foreign Starcraft Fan Communities. However, it is also true that the challenge(skill gap) given by Korea is just as big. CJ Entus Coach Jo Gyu Nam said in an interview, "his skill does not even reach that of our 2nd team players, yet he has a solid mechanic/basic and is highly determined and motivated. I put much hope that he will improve drastically." 지난 e스포츠의 역사에는 ‘기욤 패트리’, ‘베르뜨랑’과 같은 유명 해외 선수들이 한 축을 이루던 시절이 있었다. 단신의 몸으로 한국 메이저리그에서의 성공을 꿈꾸는 Greg의 행보에 귀추가 주목된다. There once was a time in e-Sports when the foreign players such as Giyom and Elky played a huge role. And now watch out for Greg who is striving to be even more successful in Korea. Thanks | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
Starting to show the true self to the public greg? You might want to skip some "dumb" considerations about foreign players since you are not even in the top 15 outside korea. | ||
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zurg
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psyCrowe
Scotland195 Posts
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ocoini
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mIsUZu
New Zealand528 Posts
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Splunge
Germany925 Posts
"they dont call ist stealing... they call it borroring" ^^ | ||
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Sawajiri
Austria417 Posts
Apparently they think Greg is too old to be starting as a progamer and they're probably right. Most of the other comments are pretty nice, though, saying that they're looking forward to seeing how he does, how they hope he will do fine with CJ, etc. | ||
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Phrogs!
Japan521 Posts
On September 02 2008 20:56 Sawajiri wrote: A lot of the comments are saying "ONLY 19 years? hahahaha..." Apparently they think Greg is too old to be starting as a progamer and they're probably right. Most of the other comments are pretty nice, though, saying that they're looking forward to seeing how he does, how they hope he will do fine with CJ, etc. Lol the comments are fantastic... Fomos Commenter: 만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만 19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만 19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만 19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세??만19세?? Good luck IdrA no way are you too old~~ | ||
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BaltA
Norway849 Posts
GOOD LUCK! May you get that licence and get some more manner! <3 | ||
Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
I loled n_n | ||
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29 fps
United States5720 Posts
On September 02 2008 20:56 Sawajiri wrote: A lot of the comments are saying "ONLY 19 years? hahahaha..." Apparently they think Greg is too old to be starting as a progamer and they're probably right. Most of the other comments are pretty nice, though, saying that they're looking forward to seeing how he does, how they hope he will do fine with CJ, etc. i thought "only 19" would imply that he's young... "already 19" would sound more like he's too old. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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ChaoSbringer
Australia1382 Posts
On September 02 2008 19:03 yubee wrote: Was it all the men involved?UGH holy shit watching that reminded me of a porno so much | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
Just compare it with different sports. In chess it's not a huge problem. Neither it is in formula one. What about aging with really impede playing ability? And 18 is damn young. It's not that he has to learn to play the game from scratch. You can't be any younger and be a foreigner in Korea. Ooh, and I remember last time the comments were pretty negative. So they are milder and basically limited to the 'age myth'? | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
But i can't wish you good luck though beacuse your attitude really stinks. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
Arrogance and dissing everyone and everything around you doesn't make you a cool kid. I wish him good luck anyway, it would be cool to see a foreigner doing well in Korea. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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Ideas
United States8071 Posts
Especially in a jokingly manner!!!!! | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On September 02 2008 19:03 yubee wrote: UGH holy shit watching that reminded me of a porno so much This was EXACTLY what I thought. Especially Artosis's voice was so porn like. Anyway, good luck to you Idra! Get CJ to sell us more progamer wear. | ||
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zatic
Zurich15315 Posts
On September 02 2008 22:56 Schnake wrote: This was EXACTLY what I thought. Especially Artosis's voice was so porn like. Anyway, good luck to you Idra! Get CJ to sell us more progamer wear. Now that you say it - SO TRUE! Jesus, it's sounds exactly like porn, especially the short pausing. Haha | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
On September 02 2008 22:56 Schnake wrote: Anyway, good luck to you Idra! Get CJ to sell us more progamer wear. | ||
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Juanpe
Uruguay283 Posts
On September 02 2008 23:10 zatic wrote: Now that you say it - SO TRUE! Jesus, it's sounds exactly like porn, especially the short pausing. Haha o_O btw, gl Gregory. | ||
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lwstupidus
United States74 Posts
On September 02 2008 22:38 Ideas wrote: Never share your opinions on the internet greg!!! Especially in a jokingly manner!!!!! Are you sure he's joking? Is he also joking when he calls people faggots when he loses? I think his arrogance is a good trait though, he will continually work hard because in his mind he is the best and getting constantly destroyed at CJ will only make him work that much harder. | ||
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Sawajiri
Austria417 Posts
On September 02 2008 21:28 29 fps wrote: i thought "only 19" would imply that he's young... "already 19" would sound more like he's too old. I think they are mocking the article, in which it said 'only'. For Korean standard, Greg is indeed a bit old, most Korean recruits are still in high-school and most pro gamers his age already have years of vigorous training behind them. It doesn't mean all hope is lost, just that he has to work very hard indeed. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On September 02 2008 22:30 Scorch wrote: Idra is just as bm as MiStrZZZ, except not as funny by far. Arrogance and dissing everyone and everything around you doesn't make you a cool kid. I wish him good luck anyway, it would be cool to see a foreigner doing well in Korea. noone is as bm as mistrzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
From the comments I can tell it's IdrA just fucking around and being bm like always <3Greg "Cab-catcher" Fields also <3 Tasteless for that post a page or two back. I'd fuck you both for 500 minerals | ||
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
so funny interview, awesome. the guy who was interviewing was daniel lee? gl idra... | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
The interview made me lol at least twice, my mum even asked "are you ok?!" :p | ||
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
On September 03 2008 00:29 ilbh wrote: lol so funny interview, awesome. the guy who was interviewing was daniel lee? gl idra... Uh... Do you live in a fox hole? The person interviewing is Artosis... | ||
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T.Sqd)LillTT
Lithuania149 Posts
On September 02 2008 19:52 zurg wrote: he will fail like draco No he won't fail like draco since draco was on the top half of the players at OGN house and was pretty close from playing a televised match. Idra has about 5% luck possibility of what draco had becouse he is not on the same level that draco was. All that want to see Idra play a televised match so badly I suggest : Sit back buy urself a year supply of pop-corns and coke and keep waiting, couse that is not going to happen soon..btw cloud is right he isn't in the top15 of the top foreigners thats for sure. | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
I have a feeling idra's gonna have to tattoo savior and xellos on his but cheeks. | ||
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Beagle23
Australia52 Posts
Whether or not the opinion is valid it would be nice to keep an open mind instead of all following some kind of mob mentality. I don't agree with the guy, I'm just saying. | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
On September 03 2008 00:34 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote: Err...did you see Idra vs Stork? Very few in the foreign scene could hope to do that well against someone of Stork's caliber. Idra has had a few disappointing performances, like in the TSL, or when he lost to Fenix- perhaps Idra needs a bit better of game sense or something, but his mechanics blow away pretty much everyone in the foreign scene.No he won't fail like draco since draco was on the top half of the players at OGN house and was pretty close from playing a televised match. Idra has about 5% luck possibility of what draco had becouse he is not on the same level that draco was. All that want to see Idra play a televised match so badly I suggest : Sit back buy urself a year supply of pop-corns and coke and keep waiting, couse that is not going to happen soon..btw cloud is right he isn't in the top15 of the top foreigners thats for sure. | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
On September 03 2008 00:34 T.Sqd)LillTT wrote: No he won't fail like draco since draco was on the top half of the players at OGN house and was pretty close from playing a televised match. Idra has about 5% luck possibility of what draco had becouse he is not on the same level that draco was. All that want to see Idra play a televised match so badly I suggest : Sit back buy urself a year supply of pop-corns and coke and keep waiting, couse that is not going to happen soon..btw cloud is right he isn't in the top15 of the top foreigners thats for sure. Draco said he was in the middle of inhouse game ranking. That's not bottom, but definately not top. How close is "pretty close" to playing a televised match? Draco has a long way to go. Only the best gets to play for the team while being in the middle is hardly enough. Rekrul mention Draco couldn't adapt to living in Korea while Idra so far, has no complaints. Idra may not be top 15 foreigners before Korea, but there is no doubt he is top 15 now. The past is insignificant when compared to the present. Now he is at least top 5 foreigner. Look at his TSL results after 1-2 months. Now he is even better. | ||
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moebius_string
United States264 Posts
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Worked!
Canada264 Posts
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NewJulyZerg
Canada29 Posts
I guess that would improve him faster though...gl to idra | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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InKline_PL
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
good luck idra, keep working hard | ||
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Lyrok
Germany85 Posts
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littlechava
United States7216 Posts
On September 03 2008 01:48 InKline_PL wrote: For what have you said about Poles and Germans, don't bother coming to Cologne.Regards better not win wcg idra, those poles and germans are some hard motherfuckers :O you might not make it out alive!!! | ||
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mrcheese
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Deleted User 3420
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On September 03 2008 01:07 Worked! wrote: spoon-fed pro gamer license... lucky guy oO hardly | ||
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ZlyKiss
Poland697 Posts
But for now many strong words and opinions but weak results. Unlike the last progamers, the protoss trio Draco, Lx, Pj. They were owning the foreign scene before korea episode. Top class and diffrent caliber than Idra. Trash talk is good when you have the skill to back it up. | ||
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littlechava
United States7216 Posts
On September 03 2008 02:41 ZlyKiss wrote: No doubt that he will became better over time, under CJ coaches this time But for now many strong words and opinions but weak results. Unlike the last progamers, the protoss trio Draco, Lx, Pj. They were owning the foreign scene before korea episode. Top class and diffrent caliber than Idra. Trash talk is good when you have the skill to back it up. trash talk is never good, but taking it too seriously is even worse =] | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
As far as I know.... that is what stopped the last 3 gamers before him ..... getting threw courage...... and he got a free pass? | ||
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6764 Posts
On September 03 2008 02:48 littlechava wrote: trash talk is never good, but taking it too seriously is even worse =] Hahah, exactly. Didnt even think the stuff he said was that offending.. | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
On September 03 2008 02:29 mrcheese wrote: damn, idra is very old.., i thought that he was like 17 or so 19 is still very young lol why does everyone around here act like you need to be 12 yrs old to be a pro gamer in korea -_-; | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
I think he will fail miserably. if he doesn't, then good for him. -_-; | ||
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
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Worked!
Canada264 Posts
Explain how being given a pro gamer license without passing courage is not being spoon-fed, on second thought don't even bother trying to explain because you're wrong. | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On September 03 2008 03:22 Worked! wrote: Explain how being given a pro gamer license without passing courage is not being spoon-fed, on second thought don't even bother trying to explain because you're wrong. The part where he had to go 50/50 versus the longterm progamers of estro was hardly beeing spoon fed =p. That said everyone of the recent forigners in Korea was given the license for free except for Leg. (and maybe assem I don't know) | ||
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
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oshibori_probe
United States2932 Posts
On September 03 2008 02:49 AttackZerg wrote: As far as I know.... that is what stopped the last 3 gamers before him ..... getting threw courage...... and he got a free pass? Draco failed at courage a few times before OGN got him a liscense. Lx and PJ had some sort of chineese equvilent I think, so KeSPA made an exception. And suncow just failed at life in Korea. | ||
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V6
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mizoguchi
United States50 Posts
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jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
i can't tell whether it's good or bad for him to move to cj. i mean he has a much stronger competition inside the cj team than it was at estro. that's good for his evolution of skill and stuff like that. but on the other hand it will be much harder to really PLAY a game that matters because the whole team is much better... | ||
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FreeDoM[YA]
Canada855 Posts
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
On September 03 2008 05:56 freedom yay wrote: What the fuck is Idra so hyped about? I'm gonna go ahead and guess because he's not Korean. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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dickless123
Korea (North)33 Posts
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NonY
8748 Posts
On September 03 2008 03:22 Worked! wrote: Explain how being given a pro gamer license without passing courage is not being spoon-fed, on second thought don't even bother trying to explain because you're wrong. he still has to earn it by playing well within his team. the coaches organize inner-team ranking competitions once every few weeks and they also watch regular practice games. i believe teams only have 2 "hand outs" per year so they have to use them carefully. there is no way idra got a progamer license without showing good results during practice | ||
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TW WiNNinG 54
United States250 Posts
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TvAll
Trinidad/Tobago49 Posts
Who cares ! ROFL. GL in CJ | ||
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BaltA
Norway849 Posts
On September 03 2008 06:08 NonY[rC] wrote: he still has to earn it by playing well within his team. the coaches organize inner-team ranking competitions once every few weeks and they also watch regular practice games. i believe teams only have 2 "hand outs" per year so they have to use them carefully. there is no way idra got a progamer license without showing good results during practice x2!! | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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meathook
1289 Posts
On September 02 2008 12:21 Sadist wrote: Its what he wants to do, its not like he cant come back and go to a Community College for a year or 2 (dunno what is current academic prognosis looks like just) then go to a university. He gets to experience another culture and go for something that he really wants to do, more power to him. however if played bw 12 hrs a day id literally murder myself. You have to REALLY like the game to do that, 12 hrs a day of just about anything has to make it miserable. Actually, according to Daniel Lee(interview somewhere on scforall), Idra, unlike the other foreigners that he brought to Korea, does nothing but stay in the team house and play SC. . . so, in terms of improving his SC play he is prolly doing fine, but his experiencing of the Korean culture is severely limited. Unless all of Korea is just like the inside of a SC team house, somehow I doubt this. And yeah, watching these interviews with him, he really comes across as a shallow minded asshole with minimal personality. | ||
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Sadist
United States7205 Posts
On September 03 2008 06:47 meathook wrote: Actually, according to Daniel Lee(interview somewhere on scforall), Idra, unlike the other foreigners that he brought to Korea, does nothing but stay in the team house and play SC. . . so, in terms of improving his SC play he is prolly doing fine, but his experiencing of the Korean culture is severely limited. Unless all of Korea is just like the inside of a SC team house, somehow I doubt this. And yeah, watching these interviews with him, he really comes across as a shallow minded asshole with minimal personality. he still gets to live and interact with people from a different culture in their home country so id hope he can pick up on a few things. If he cant well then that sucks | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
 IdrA testingedit: lol nice ^^ | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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Ideas
United States8071 Posts
On September 03 2008 07:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Why do people think he said "Germany and Poland are stupid"? He said "People who think Germany and Poland are the strongest nation besides Korea are stupid" Because it's the internet. | ||
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
On September 02 2008 11:30 Nyovne wrote: Unless I see Idra with a C(-_-)J face he ain't going anywhere! p.s. send me a shit if I don't win one nig <3. Lal :D i hope u meant 'shirt' | ||
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TW WiNNinG 54
United States250 Posts
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d.arkive
United States843 Posts
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Oddysay
Canada597 Posts
agree about cloud post too he was way too much arrogant in this interview and that true that he not even in the top 5 outside korea , know your current place honestly . sorry about the bm , but after watch this interview gezzz . now that all my hate out : idra got some good dedication for starcraft , good luck in your new team . | ||
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JoMal
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + of which i'm not  NonY is going to smash that bm noob | ||
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ramen247
United States1256 Posts
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Guss
Sweden712 Posts
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Highways
Australia6098 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/3540/fomosho9.jpg) http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue | ||
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ketomai
United States2789 Posts
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FleaProblem
Afghanistan5 Posts
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On September 03 2008 09:07 Highways wrote: http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue I scrow down the comments made by the koreans, even though i don't udnerstand it, just from looking at the smileys, the comments aren't encouraging which is sad. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On September 03 2008 09:28 ilbh wrote: i dont understand how can some many people be so angry with idra. Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On September 03 2008 08:40 Guss wrote: somebody link the fomos link so i can see him in teh CJ shirt http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=88053&db=issue ![[image loading]](http://fomos.kr/board/issue/1220325093_1.jpg) On September 03 2008 09:19 nevake wrote: For everyone saying Idra isn't in the top 15...that's completely wrong and ignorant. Going 50/50 in the estro house is something I'd like to see any other foreigner try to accomplish. I agree that he's a bit arrogant, but people are taking him too seriously. He probably is now but arguably wasn't when he left. It's hard to say where he stacks against the foreigners seeing has he hasn't really played any of them in a long time. I think there's probably 5 or so foreigners that could go 50/50 in any house in Korea. Draco was probably 50/50 in OGN before he left. | ||
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littlechava
United States7216 Posts
On September 03 2008 09:38 thunk wrote: I think there's probably 5 or so foreigners that could go 50/50 in any house in Korea. Draco was probably 50/50 in OGN before he left. I seriously doubt it. | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
I really want IdrA to do well in Korea and I have always liked him as a player since, well, he first broke out tbh. | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
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TheSchwA
United States248 Posts
I'd recommend calming down, try laughing, its usually pretty nice. | ||
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ploy
United States416 Posts
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TheSchwA
United States248 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote: Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic. do you know how much hate draco got from people while he was there and still gets? its like as soon as someone goes to korea, hes automatically cocky and arrogant and thinks he better than everyone and not really all that good so what the fuck is he doing over there etc Its fucking pathetic how it happens every time a foreigner is successful and everytime its these nobodies who show up on the forums to insult the only foreign hope in korea and gossip. pathetic is really the only word for it | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Can someone rewrite the interview please? | ||
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kpcrew
Korea (South)1071 Posts
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TW WiNNinG 54
United States250 Posts
Same Face new Place... new attitude. Idra hwaiting! | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
On September 03 2008 09:35 EleanorRIgby wrote: Maybe because hes one of the worse representatives for the foreign scene, imagine if we had Draco or Handy over there, much more friendly and charismatic. Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him! | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
On September 03 2008 10:39 DanceCommander wrote: Draco had his chance. I really can't understand all this negativity either. Just cheer for him! He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames. | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
He DOES have the right that he should be proud and confident. But he should not be disregarding any opponents like he did. He is a good player. In fact, a great player. And, although I personally don't think him the best foreigner, he is a good representative with his determination. But it's unacceptable to talk like he did; even if it IS true, it's rude and disgusting. I wish Idra luck, and hope he is successful in his path, but he's got to get rid of this horrible aspect of him. And for your own sake, I'd think it best for you not to call people retarded when you haven't even been provoked. Completely unnecessary. | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
him saying he is the best foreigner is like saying he is the tallest midget. you're still gonna be dwarfed anyway... no? + Show Spoiler + just joking, lightening up this thread;; ^__^v | ||
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moebius_string
United States264 Posts
I think some of us expect to much from someone who has been their less than a year. These Koreans seem to start playing younger in a more conducive environment, in there own backyard. Foreigners going over there have to play catch up possibly by a few years. | ||
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Sadist
United States7205 Posts
On September 03 2008 10:06 fusionsdf wrote: do you know how much hate draco got from people while he was there and still gets? its like as soon as someone goes to korea, hes automatically cocky and arrogant and thinks he better than everyone and not really all that good so what the fuck is he doing over there etc Its fucking pathetic how it happens every time a foreigner is successful and everytime its these nobodies who show up on the forums to insult the only foreign hope in korea and gossip. pathetic is really the only word for it In all honesty most peoples feelings for Idra started way before it was even known he was going to go to korea or anything. Its just his reputation. Most of the media players have it, it tends to bother people. they seem to get a long and dont take it too serious and or understand each other so it works for them, but dont act like hes some Victim and people have feelings for him based on nothing. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On September 03 2008 12:13 moebius_string wrote: Interesting how when we talk about Idra, people defensively bring up Draco, but I could see those comments he made riling people up as the words came out of his mouth. I think some of us expect to much from someone who has been their less than a year. These Koreans seem to start playing younger in a more conducive environment, in there own backyard. Foreigners going over there have to play catch up possibly by a few years. exactly draco got exactly the same treatment idras getting now, and if you actually talk to players who know them/have met them in real life, those people generally say nice thing people in the foreigner community will sieze on any stray comment to try and tear a player trying to play in korea down | ||
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Sadist
United States7205 Posts
On September 03 2008 12:16 fusionsdf wrote: exactly draco got exactly the same treatment idras getting now, and if you actually talk to players who know them/have met them in real life, those people generally say nice thing people in the foreigner community will sieze on any stray comment to try and tear a player trying to play in korea down IMO the 2 arent even closely related. Nobody had problems with anybody going to korea until rekrul went really (maybe smuft caught a bit of shit but I dont remember any of it being widespread) Since then its just been Draco and Idra getting shit really. If draco wasnt from Poland I dont think it would be such a big problem either,In terms of "arrogance" I dont see much of a difference between Fisheye or Draco, the Polish fanbase seems to start a lot of shit on forums | ||
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poingy
United States59 Posts
On September 03 2008 10:10 LemOn wrote: ScFor all is completely useless without lower bandwith and Download Options.... Can someone rewrite the interview please? Slightly edited, but nearly word for word: + Show Spoiler + IdrA takes some time out to give us a new interview and tell us what the big important news is that nobody else knows about yetArtosis: Hello, IdrA. IdrA: Hi. Artosis: Nice shirt. IdrA: Thank you. Artosis: I heard today's the last day you're gonna be able wear that shirt. IdrA: Apparently. Artosis: Why is that? IdrA: Because I'm moving to CJ tonight. Artosis: Why is that? What's CJ? Why are you moving to CJ? IdrA: CJ is a pro team that I've been traded to by eSTRO as part of their effort to spread foreigners to the pro gaming scene. Artosis: Wow! How do you feel about that? That's big news. IdrA: Yeah, it is. I'm pretty excited Artosis: Well I mean CJ, that's a top team. You're gonna be playing with  sAviOr and XellOs and stuff.IdrA: Yeah, it's pretty insane but it’s cool. Artosis: Well you know, we know you didn't pass courage yet, but those of you that didn't know, Greg was given his pro license by eSTRO. So I guess you have a lot of good things happening for you right now. IdrA: Yeah. Artosis: I would say so, Jesus, so legend has it you were at WWI, CJ staff saw your games versus  Stork and thought that you had a lot of potential and picked you up. Confirm?IdrA: I guess so. I don't really know the thought process behind it, but yeah, I met some of the CJ front guys and they watched me play and we talked a bit. Artosis: Let's get to the down and dirty here. Which shirt do you like more, eSTRO shirt or CJ shirt? IdrA: I don't think I’ve seen a CJ shirt yet. Artosis: Well the previous CJ shirt, think of that one. Which one are you going to look more imposing in in the next WCG? IdrA: The CJ one I guess. I don't remember what it looks like. Artosis: Well CJ has two houses: the A team house and the B team house. Any word yet on which one you're going to? IdrA: They mentioned I might be going to the A team house even though I'm obviously B team because the coaches spend most of the time there and they want me around the coaches but it depends on where they have space for me because I think the A team house is kinda full. Artosis: So they're really looking at you as a player as opposed to some sort of media spectacle. IdrA: It sounds like it. I'm not sure why else they would go out and try to trade for me. Artosis: You know, CJ didn't do so well in Proleague this season; what’d they get, seventh or something? IdrA: I think they were bottom four, but yeah it was … compared to their last season it was pretty depressing. Artosis: Yeah, you think you're going to be able to help them raise that up a little bit next season? IdrA: I don't think they really need any help. They're perennial contenders. They just had an off season; they'll be back on top. Artosis: Alright, IdrA, say for one second here you do go to the A team house. If you could sit next to any two players, right in the middle of them, who would they be? IdrA: Well, XellOs obviously, and I dunno maybe DarkElf or TheManiaMST. Just a standard terran that I can learn mechanics and basic play from because XellOs is going to be over my head, and I won't appreciate half the stuff he does.Artosis: Speaking of XellOs, can you sneak me out some XellOs replays?IdrA: nah Artosis: Why not? I'm your friend … long time friend. IdrA: Yeah, but he's XellOs. That trumps you.Artosis: Ouch. Well he is XellOs; I can't really argue with that.Artosis: So in relation to the eSTRO house where is the CJ house? IdrA: Well the A team house is only 40 seconds away. It's in the same little villa complex thing; it’s just a short walk. I think the B team house is just 10 minutes away from there Artosis: Are you going to keep in contact with your eSTRO buddies? IdrA: Yeah, probably talk online and play a little bit. That kind of stuff. Artosis: That's good. Do they know yet that you're going over there? IdrA: I don't think so. I was told not to talk about it since they're going to make official news of this soon, so I haven't even told my teammates just to be careful. Artosis: You think they're going to be jealous of you moving to such a prestigious team? IdrA: I kinda imagine so, but things are looking up for eSTRO so who knows maybe they have hope. Artosis: Alright let’s get into some stuff that will stir up some discussion on the forums. IdrA: No kidding… Artosis: After Korea, what's the strongest StarCraft country? IdrA: USA of course. Artosis: USA… wow… that's a strong statement. A lot of people would say China. What do you have to say to that? IdrA: I don't know. I play with both, and I think I do worse versus the American players than versus the Chinese players, so that kinda implies USA is harder. Artosis: What about the people who might think Poland is harder? IdrA: Well they're kinda dumb because they have  Draco and . . . Draco.Artosis: I see and what about the people who Germany is one of the top countries? IdrA:  Mondragon and three spots to qualify, so yeah they're dumber than Poland.Artosis: The other day we were talking with the CJ coach, and they mentioned that CJ has a stricter training regimen than pretty much every single team. eSTRO right now how many hours a day are you practicing here? IdrA: 12 hours a day right now. Artosis: So is it even possible that CJ could be more strict than eSTRO? IdrA: Well, I heard rumors that Much practiced like 16 hours a day so it's possible, but I don't really know.Artosis: Do you think you could take more than 12 hours a day? That has to be really hard to do. IdrA: Well I have WCG coming up, and I kinda need to win that so that's pretty good motivation. I think I can handle it. Artosis: Speaking of WCG USA, now last night you just qualified along with  Machine in an epic 2 man qualifier. How do you feel about that?IdrA: Well it was kinda up in the air until the last second, so I was pretty nervous and tense. Artosis: No doubt, two spots two players sounds pretty hard to me. Artosis: WCG USA - you think you're gonna take it home this year? IdrA: I think so, yeah. I think I have to be the favorite given that I’m playing 12 hours a day and everyone else is doing 4 max or something. Artosis: But NonY is getting pretty good this year. What do you think his chances are of taking you out?IdrA: I think he might be the next best or like the next favorite if he gets over his offline nerves, but last year he didn't really perform as well as expected. He's very skilled, but I’d be surprised if he beats me. Artosis: USA finals - who are you most afraid of? IdrA: Probably g5 given his style and the maps Troy and Andromeda fit him perfectly. And he’s really abusive, so that’s always scary … and best of three games Artosis: What are your predictions for the grand final? What non-Korean country is most likely to take home a medal this year? IdrA: Probably China and hopefully myself. Maybe Draco if he practices hardcore, but I don't think he will.Artosis: Now we're going to have the lightning answer round. I’m going to say two things you're going to say which one’s better, alright? IdrA: Yeah Artosis:  JF or NonYIdrA: JFArtosis: Mondragon or  HayprOIdrA: MondragonArtosis: Germany or Poland IdrA: Poland Artosis: Germany or Sweden IdrA: .... who cares? Artosis: kimchi or spaghetti IdrA: spaghetti Artosis: eSTRO or CJ IdrA: CJ Artosis: eSTRO or Air Force ACE IdrA: ... eSTRO once BoxeR leavesArtosis: Alright, so one thing really different culture-wise in Korea from USA is everyone shares here. IdrA: yeah Artosis: They don't call it stealing; they call it sharing. I'm just wondering now that you're moving you're going around trying to collect all of your belongings, all of your clothes, percentage-wise how many of the original clothes you bought are you going to be leaving the house with? IdrA: Well, of the practice clothes and stuff I wear every day, just like t-shirts and shorts, I think I’m going to walk away with around 70% of what I came with, but most of my other clothes, that I would wear outside, I still have all of those because they aren't in the laundry very much and people didn't get any chance to share them. Artosis: You know, someone borrowed my belt and my sandals. Have you seen them? IdrA: Nope. Artosis: No? That sucks. IdrA: Yes, it does. Artosis: Leaving the eSTRO house who are you going to miss the most? IdrA: I would have missed NsP_Fancy the most because I was probably the closest with him because of the communication, but he's not in the house right now so I don't know. I guess I’m pretty close to one of the new guys, NSP_ash. He's cool.Artosis: Yeah Chung Min, he's a cool guy, but wrong answer. You're supposed to say Artosis. Ouch.IdrA: I’m still going to see you. Everyone who is a fan of foreigners in Korea should keep an eye out for idea, as CJ Entus is his new home and he will only go up in skill and hopefully make it into pro league and do well there. From everyone around the world, we wish you a lot of luck IdrA | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote: He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames. I'm pretty sure the kid was being cocky on purpose, maybe to just put on a show. I know if I got into CJ Entus as a player, I would do anything I wanted... Besides, his personality just has that quality of I don't give a fuck about other people's opinions, and this is a quality I respect in people. Just because he isn't some humble, mannered every day kid doesn't call for all this flame. I absolutely love reading all the negative posts on Idra, they make my day lol. He is in korea, and you are not, THE END | ||
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milly9
Canada325 Posts
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
eStro: + They got player from CJ? + They get exclusive draft deal with CJ? + Perhaps new foreigner joins..? - They lost one pro license - something CJ: + Draft deal with eStro? (could be nice when eStro is first one to get draft I suppose) + Foreign image + - Lost player? | ||
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DukE_ss
United States689 Posts
On September 03 2008 11:22 Superiorwolf wrote: He is definitely not one of the best foreigners. He had no right to be insulting other countries, even if they were jokes, because it's just too cocky. He was NOT the best US foreigner before he left, by far he was not. We will have to see how much he improved, but if he loses to other foreigners (Castro in Spirit) he should not be making absurd, ridiculous claims. He DOES have the right that he should be proud and confident. But he should not be disregarding any opponents like he did. He is a good player. In fact, a great player. And, although I personally don't think him the best foreigner, he is a good representative with his determination. But it's unacceptable to talk like he did; even if it IS true, it's rude and disgusting. I wish Idra luck, and hope he is successful in his path, but he's got to get rid of this horrible aspect of him. And for your own sake, I'd think it best for you not to call people retarded when you haven't even been provoked. Completely unnecessary. So it's rude and disgusting because idra was being honest about what he thought? | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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GrayArea
United States872 Posts
On September 03 2008 12:23 poingy wrote: Slightly edited, but nearly word for word: + Show Spoiler + IdrA takes some time out to give us a new interview and tell us what the big important news is that nobody else knows about yetArtosis: Hello, IdrA. IdrA: Hi. Artosis: Nice shirt. IdrA: Thank you. Artosis: I heard today's the last day you're gonna be able wear that shirt. IdrA: Apparently. Artosis: Why is that? IdrA: Because I'm moving to CJ tonight. Artosis: Why is that? What's CJ? Why are you moving to CJ? IdrA: CJ is a pro team that I've been traded to by eSTRO as part of their effort to spread foreigners to the pro gaming scene. Artosis: Wow! How do you feel about that? That's big news. IdrA: Yeah, it is. I'm pretty excited Artosis: Well I mean CJ, that's a top team. You're gonna be playing with sAviOr and XellOs and stuff.IdrA: Yeah, it's pretty insane but it’s cool. Artosis: Well you know, we know you didn't pass courage yet, but those of you that didn't know, Greg was given his pro license by eSTRO. So I guess you have a lot of good things happening for you right now. IdrA: Yeah. Artosis: I would say so, Jesus, so legend has it you were at WWI, CJ staff saw your games versus Stork and thought that you had a lot of potential and picked you up. Confirm?IdrA: I guess so. I don't really know the thought process behind it, but yeah, I met some of the CJ front guys and they watched me play and we talked a bit. Artosis: Let's get to the down and dirty here. Which shirt do you like more, eSTRO shirt or CJ shirt? IdrA: I don't think I’ve seen a CJ shirt yet. Artosis: Well the previous CJ shirt, think of that one. Which one are you going to look more imposing in in the next WCG? IdrA: The CJ one I guess. I don't remember what it looks like. Artosis: Well CJ has two houses: the A team house and the B team house. Any word yet on which one you're going to? IdrA: They mentioned I might be going to the A team house even though I'm obviously B team because the coaches spend most of the time there and they want me around the coaches but it depends on where they have space for me because I think the A team house is kinda full. Artosis: So they're really looking at you as a player as opposed to some sort of media spectacle. IdrA: It sounds like it. I'm not sure why else they would go out and try to trade for me. Artosis: You know, CJ didn't do so well in Proleague this season; what’d they get, seventh or something? IdrA: I think they were bottom four, but yeah it was … compared to their last season it was pretty depressing. Artosis: Yeah, you think you're going to be able to help them raise that up a little bit next season? IdrA: I don't think they really need any help. They're perennial contenders. They just had an off season; they'll be back on top. Artosis: Alright, IdrA, say for one second here you do go to the A team house. If you could sit next to any two players, right in the middle of them, who would they be? IdrA: Well, XellOs obviously, and I dunno maybe DarkElf or TheManiaMST. Just a standard terran that I can learn mechanics and basic play from because XellOs is going to be over my head, and I won't appreciate half the stuff he does.Artosis: Speaking of XellOs, can you sneak me out some XellOs replays?IdrA: nah Artosis: Why not? I'm your friend … long time friend. IdrA: Yeah, but he's XellOs. That trumps you.Artosis: Ouch. Well he is XellOs; I can't really argue with that.Artosis: So in relation to the eSTRO house where is the CJ house? IdrA: Well the A team house is only 40 seconds away. It's in the same little villa complex thing; it’s just a short walk. I think the B team house is just 10 minutes away from there Artosis: Are you going to keep in contact with your eSTRO buddies? IdrA: Yeah, probably talk online and play a little bit. That kind of stuff. Artosis: That's good. Do they know yet that you're going over there? IdrA: I don't think so. I was told not to talk about it since they're going to make official news of this soon, so I haven't even told my teammates just to be careful. Artosis: You think they're going to be jealous of you moving to such a prestigious team? IdrA: I kinda imagine so, but things are looking up for eSTRO so who knows maybe they have hope. Artosis: Alright let’s get into some stuff that will stir up some discussion on the forums. IdrA: No kidding… Artosis: After Korea, what's the strongest StarCraft country? IdrA: USA of course. Artosis: USA… wow… that's a strong statement. A lot of people would say China. What do you have to say to that? IdrA: I don't know. I play with both, and I think I do worse versus the American players than versus the Chinese players, so that kinda implies USA is harder. Artosis: What about the people who might think Poland is harder? IdrA: Well they're kinda dumb because they have Draco and . . . Draco.Artosis: I see and what about the people who Germany is one of the top countries? IdrA: Mondragon and three spots to qualify, so yeah they're dumber than Poland.Artosis: The other day we were talking with the CJ coach, and they mentioned that CJ has a stricter training regimen than pretty much every single team. eSTRO right now how many days are you practicing here? IdrA: 12 hours a day right now. Artosis: So is it even possible that CJ could be more strict than eSTRO? IdrA: Well, I heard rumors that Much practiced like 16 hours a day so it's possible, but I don't really know.Artosis: Do you think you could take more than 12 hours a day? That has to be really hard to do. IdrA: Well I have WCG coming up, and I kinda need to win that so that's pretty good motivation. I think I can handle it. Artosis: Speaking of WCG USA, now last night you just qualified along with Machine in an epic 2 man qualifier. How do you feel about that?IdrA: Well it was kinda up in the air until the last second, so I was pretty nervous and tense. Artosis: No doubt, two spots two players sounds pretty hard to me. Artosis: WCG USA - you think you're gonna take it home this year? IdrA: I think so, yeah. I think I have to be the favorite given that I’m playing 12 hours a day and everyone else is doing 4 max or something. Artosis: But NonY is getting pretty good this year. What do you think his chances are of taking you out?IdrA: I think he might be the next best or like the next favorite if he gets over his offline nerves, but last year he didn't really perform as well as expected. He's very skilled, but I’d be surprised if he beats me. Artosis: USA finals - who are you most afraid of? IdrA: Probably g5 given his style and the maps Troy and Andromeda fit him perfectly. And he’s really abusive, so that’s always scary … and best of three games Artosis: What are your predictions for the grand final? What non-Korean country is most likely to take home a medal this year? IdrA: Probably China and hopefully myself. Maybe Draco if he practices hardcore, but I don't think he will.Artosis: Now we're going to have the lightning answer round. I’m going to say two things you're going to say which one’s better, alright? IdrA: Yeah Artosis: JF or NonYIdrA: JFArtosis: Mondragon or HayprOIdrA: MondragonArtosis: Germany or Poland IdrA: Poland Artosis: Germany or Sweden IdrA: .... who cares? Artosis: kimchi or spaghetti IdrA: spaghetti Artosis: eSTRO or CJ IdrA: CJ Artosis: eSTRO or Air Force ACE IdrA: ... eSTRO once BoxeR leavesArtosis: Alright, so one thing really different culture-wise in Korea from USA is everyone shares here. IdrA: yeah Artosis: They don't call it stealing; they call it sharing. I'm just wondering now that you're moving you're going around trying to collect all of your belongings, all of your clothes, percentage-wise how many of the original clothes you bought are you going to be leaving the house with? IdrA: Well, of the practice clothes and stuff I wear every day, just like t-shirts and shorts, I think I’m going to walk away with around 70% of what I came with, but most of my other clothes, that I would wear outside, I still have all of those because they aren't in the laundry very much and people didn't get any chance to share them. Artosis: You know, someone borrowed my belt and my sandals. Have you seen them? IdrA: Nope. Artosis: No? That sucks. IdrA: Yes, it does. Artosis: Leaving the eSTRO house who are you going to miss the most? IdrA: I would have missed NsP_Fancy the most because I was probably the closest with him because of the communication, but he's not in the house right now so I don't know. I guess I’m pretty close to one of the new guys, NSP_ash. He's cool.Artosis: Yeah Chung Min, he's a cool guy, but wrong answer. You're supposed to say Artosis. Ouch.IdrA: I’m still going to see you. Everyone who is a fan of foreigners in Korea should keep an eye out for idea, as CJ Entus is his new home and he will only go up in skill and hopefully make it into pro league and do well there. From everyone around the world, we wish you a lot of luck IdrAThanks for writing out the interview, really appreciate it. Didn't want to watch the whole thing so I just skimmed this. | ||
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
On September 03 2008 12:52 Superiorwolf wrote: Okay I read the interview again and it was never tooooooo bad, but it was still pretty bad. Look, all I was trying to do was telling the guy I quoted why people were feeling ambivalent on this interview. And Duke, it is rude and disgusting when it's complete disregard to your opponents. Keep these kinds of comments to yourself, imho: "I'd be surprised if he beat me" is just a very bad way of saying it. At least word things better, like when he was talking about G5. He didn't necessarily say he'd lose to G5, but said he was a threat. Give other players the respect they deserve. you took it too seriously. | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
The internet is serious bizness | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
On September 03 2008 11:22 Superiorwolf wrote: He is definitely not one of the best foreigners. He had no right to be insulting other countries, even if they were jokes, because it's just too cocky. He was NOT the best US foreigner before he left, by far he was not. We will have to see how much he improved, but if he loses to other foreigners (Castro in Spirit) he should not be making absurd, ridiculous claims. He DOES have the right that he should be proud and confident. But he should not be disregarding any opponents like he did. He is a good player. In fact, a great player. And, although I personally don't think him the best foreigner, he is a good representative with his determination. But it's unacceptable to talk like he did; even if it IS true, it's rude and disgusting. I wish Idra luck, and hope he is successful in his path, but he's got to get rid of this horrible aspect of him. And for your own sake, I'd think it best for you not to call people retarded when you haven't even been provoked. Completely unnecessary. Good thing I didn't say he was the best foreigner, nor did I say he was the best in the US. OH NO SOMEONE MADE A JOKE ABOUT NATIONALITY, THAT BASTARD. Do you seriously think he thinks all germans and swedes are worthless? it's a fucking joke, just because it's not 100% politically correct doesn't make him some sort of cocky arrogant scumbag who wants to slaughter and maim all germans and/or swedes. He is quite easily the favourite - which is what he said - ask anyone and most people will say they're expecting idra to win it. He has such a ridiculous advantage over everyone else it'd be pretty fucked up if he didn't win it. At the end of the day, he is on CJ entus, while everyone else is playing on iccup out of their homes, and he has done nothing but play SC for the past 5 months or however long while everyone else still has to lead a normal life (education, job, etc.) It'd be pretty fucked up if he DIDN'T think he was going to win and I guarantee you anyone who was in the same position as him would have the same thoughts, just because he's actually honest about his feelings (something that's actually important if you want to have any sort of insight into how he feels and seeing as how he's our pioneer foreigner into the korean scene at the moment it's kind of important) If you think some little jokes that aren't 100% PC are super offensive and make you a rude arrogant jerk you should go back to being a soccer mom | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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ChefZerg
United States18 Posts
Shocking! I can't even imagine how mentally draining 12 hours of sc a day, every day, must be. I couldn't handle it. Goodluck white boy. | ||
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
On September 03 2008 13:55 Superiorwolf wrote: ok calm down rofl x2 | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
On September 03 2008 10:39 il0seonpurpose wrote: So that interview was like a joke right? Cuz he did sound alittle cocky at times, and his voice was indifferent to everything. that's pretty much the way idra seems to normally act | ||
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littlechava
United States7216 Posts
On September 03 2008 13:57 ChefZerg wrote: agreed, i dont think i've ever been able to play games for more than 2-3 hours nonstop at a timeIt's almost like he was asking him questions to stir up drama on the forums, and he....did. Shocking! I can't even imagine how mentally draining 12 hours of sc a day, every day, must be. I couldn't handle it. Goodluck white boy. doing it all day would be crazy :O | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On September 03 2008 14:04 cujo2k wrote: that's pretty much the way idra seems to normally act Oh, wow... But he sounds like a guy that won't ever get a girl. His voice is just....something. | ||
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29 fps
United States5720 Posts
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Beagle23
Australia52 Posts
On September 03 2008 14:10 il0seonpurpose wrote: Oh, wow... But he sounds like a guy that won't ever get a girl. His voice is just....something. qft 8) and the people going psycho about IdrA's comments, however stupid those comments may have been, probably shouldn't take the guy so seriously. Not because I'm an IdrA fan, but because rabid nationalism makes you look stupid. So the guy doesn't think your country is better than some other country? Who gives a crap, seriously, it's not like he's personally insulting you. | ||
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EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On September 03 2008 13:55 Superiorwolf wrote: ok calm down I think that's a white flag I see | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32269 Posts
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I8PP
Canada186 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On September 03 2008 16:22 I8PP wrote: Maybe we're too used to the generic Korean progamer interviews where they're all humble and give cookie-cutter answers to questions. "I am sorry to the fans that I was not able to give my best performance and will practice hard to make it far next season." Imagine how much it would suck if the interview sounded like that. | ||
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
On September 03 2008 16:27 Ancestral wrote: "I am sorry to the fans that I was not able to give my best performance and will practice hard to make it far next season." Imagine how much it would suck if the interview sounded like that. interviews need a kick in the ass idra is here to deliver it | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
I think it was fairly obvious given his previous Courage tournament it was only a matter of time until he obtained the progamer license, so I don't think it's a big deal that Estro gave it to him, it helps things go a little more smoothly here I think. Draco said in an interview he was going 50-50 with people in OGN Sparkyz before he left, but just didn't want to put himself under the stress of the language and cultural barrier / teammates' bad manner anymore. It's on TL somewhere, I won't look for it. The move to CJ is really cool, I hope Idra does well. The CJ coach said he's below even CJ's B team players, while Idra said he was in the middle of Estro players skill-wise, so it looks like he definitely has a lot to gain here. Not everyone is Mondragon, expecting Idra to say anything but what he believes is silly. I thought he was a little disrespectful about the top players of the mentioned nations, I'd say Poland certainly has more than just Draco for example, but I don't think it's a big deal really, anyone who is offended and can't just say "lol what an ass" has too high a temper. I'd be surprised if Idra doesn't completely destroy wcg, I think TSL was a fluke. His only potential problem is underestimating his opponents, but hopefully that won't be a issue. Good luck! Idra fighting!~ | ||
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RO.Word
United Kingdom62 Posts
Sorry but if we had a foreigner over there who was hugging his teddy bear while saying how thankful he is to everyone for helping him and oh dear god how grateful he is for this oppertunity I'd be bored fuckless. Yeah he's a bit stale in his "yank" quality of dry witless sarcasm, but even americans have time to develop that annoying trait into something either funny or dare I say witty. Go Idra. | ||
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
On September 03 2008 17:23 RO.Word wrote: UK guy make funny jokes.Yeah he's a bit stale in his "yank" quality of dry witless sarcasm, but even americans have time to develop that annoying trait into something either funny or dare I say witty. Go Idra. UK guys jokes make me laugh. Haha. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 03 2008 10:57 Superiorwolf wrote: He was too cocky. "Oh, I should be the favorite, I'm the best foreigner obviously because I practice 12 hours and others only can get 4 hours max. I'm definitely the favorite to win the WCG USA". It was too cocky. Although he does get more practice time, he did lose in Spirit, which is totally embarrassing, as well there are several top foreigners that I bet could contest his claim. Even if he WAS, unarguably the best foreigner, you shouldn't be making arrogant statements like these. On top of the fact that he is arguably NOT the best foreigner, this is going to lead to some flames. It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees. | ||
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inb4RUSH
Sweden85 Posts
I don't see any arrogance over Idra wether he was a BMer before or not he seems like a normal guy when talking to Artosis. And no he didn't call Poland and Germany dumb, he said the people who think Poland and Germany are the best SC countries, are dumb. Hey Greg, you look tired man, don't overwork yourself that shit can make everything alot tougher. Good luck in CJ, I'll be looking forward to seeing you take down some korean superstars. | ||
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pyrogenetix
United Arab Emirates5091 Posts
(i dont wanna get mixed up in this idra drama, im only here to congratulate him being in korea) | ||
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Skew
United States1019 Posts
+1 to RO.Word post | ||
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JoMal
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
Draco said in an interview that he was in the upper half of OGN before he left. Which means anyone that can go toe to toe with Draco now probably has a shot at going 50/50 in the OGN house. JF, Mondragon, Idra, Draco, and Nony right now could all vie for being "better than Draco". In reality, it's all just theorycraft. We're just setting up imaginary matchups between foreigners on good days and Koreans on good days and we could argue for pages and pages over threads and threads. Which we have. | ||
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eazo
United States530 Posts
CJ.Idra ftw | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
there are lots of koreans who spend years in practice houses and never really go anywhere talent is just as important as practice I dont think you can say that any foreigner will get better than 50/50 after a year spent at the house | ||
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MyStiC_Chaos
United States499 Posts
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On September 04 2008 13:45 MyStiC_Chaos wrote: Dunno if this was posted before, but if this was an effort to spread foreigners, does this mean there will be more foreigners in Korea soon? Interesting. Well the spirit tourney is going on, whoever wins that gets a shot at being a progamer in korea | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
On September 03 2008 17:35 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: It's not too cocky at all, it's a perfectly realistic assessment of WCG USA, and nearly every participant in the USA final agrees. Maybe, but lots of people agree with the viewpoint that I stated. I was just trying to explain why some people thought he was too cocky. I don't care if it was a realistic assessment or not, it was rude in my opinion. If you look in this thread, the WCG USA National Finals, you can see that many people put Yosh ahead of Idra, some people put Nony in front of Idra, etc. It's not right to be completely disregarding opinions of others, "I'm definitely the favorite". I wish Idra luck, and hope he does well, as I've said before, but all I want is him to not be TOO confident that he comes off as arrogant and cocky to some people. He should be confident, though. Maybe lots of people don't find him arrogant or cocky in his interview, but if he appears arrogant / cocky to more than 30% of people, there's something that needs to be fixed. | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
being "the favourite" means the majority expects him to win and they do and no, there is nothing that needs to be fixed. It's a completely healthy mindset and hands down the best one to have when you're doing something like idra's doing - confidence is required. If he's disillusioned or feels unsure about what he's doing at all it's going to chip away at him til he finally quits, like Draco. Do you honestly think he gives two fucks about what a bunch of randoms on TL think of him anyway? There are always going to be haters and there are always going to be sheltered fools who expect his interview to be 100% respectful to everything rather than what he actually thinks | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 04 2008 14:15 Superiorwolf wrote: Maybe, but lots of people agree with the viewpoint that I stated. I was just trying to explain why some people thought he was too cocky. I don't care if it was a realistic assessment or not, it was rude in my opinion. If you look in this thread, the WCG USA National Finals, you can see that many people put Yosh ahead of Idra, some people put Nony in front of Idra, etc. It's not right to be completely disregarding opinions of others, "I'm definitely the favorite". Ok, IdrA IS definitely the favourite to win WCG USA. This is nothing against ANY of the players competing, but simply because some people think Nony or Yosh are more likely to win doesn't make that accurate. I don't see how "disregarding their opinion" comes into it. Those people are wrong. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7825 Posts
I would actually be quite happy to see another player win the WCG USA. | ||
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araav
Armenia1590 Posts
you will eventually get your questions answered I say - Congrats Idra | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
90% of the korean pro's are 100% boring in everyway. Their interviews for the most part suck, because outside of pro gamming they don't have time to do much. He was doing it on purpose with Dans encouragement. Look at the name of the link. They were TRYING to stirr things up. I feel bad for every moron who actually responded in anger to a MOCK interview. It was done to get a laugh off of you guys! P.S Nony CRUSH HIM PLEASE, if there is any type of meditation or prayer I can say for you just ask, I'm down. Cost him a flight and then join him in korea! | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
IdrA what's new? | ||
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Juanpe
Uruguay283 Posts
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
It'd be cool if he had a blog of some sort so that we'd know more about what happens while he practices for these teams. Really interested about CJ Entus style and the people in it. That way we wouldn't have to wait months for interviews | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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WingSandrockX
Korea (North)1164 Posts
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PoP-sicle
Canada418 Posts
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Idra > Darkelf | ||
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sizcyp
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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OrderlyChaos
United States1115 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Paintball Terran Fighting! | ||
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SayTT
Sweden2158 Posts
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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Duke
United States1106 Posts
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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Piste
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Biff The Understudy
France7825 Posts
On September 04 2008 17:40 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Ok, IdrA IS definitely the favourite to win WCG USA. This is nothing against ANY of the players competing, but simply because some people think Nony or Yosh are more likely to win doesn't make that accurate. I don't see how "disregarding their opinion" comes into it. Those people are wrong. Well, Idra is maybe very good but saying "I am definitly the best" sucks. I'm sure if you ask Jaedong if he is the best player in the world, he will start to tell you about other good players like Flash or Best. That's called humility, and I guess it's somehow necessary to become great. Imo, laking that much humility is a very, very bad start to become a champion. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 09 2008 18:08 Biff The Understudy wrote: Well, Idra is maybe very good but saying "I am definitly the best" sucks. I'm sure if you ask Jaedong if he is the best player in the world, he will start to tell you about other good players like Flash or Best. That's called humility, and I guess it's somehow necessary to become great. Imo, laking that much humility is a very, very bad start to become a champion. Well, in IdrA's case you gotta realize it's all perspective. He knows he ain't shit compared to the entire CJ B team, he's told me as much. I think that saying you've got to be the favourite to win wcg usa because you play over ten hours a day every day isn't really very cocky. | ||
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iori_LT
Lithuania675 Posts
On September 09 2008 13:48 CTStalker wrote: my god that interview was boring. | ||
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
Want to see his improvement, I'm curious | ||
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
Cheers | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On September 09 2008 18:08 Biff The Understudy wrote: Well, Idra is maybe very good but saying "I am definitly the best" sucks. I'm sure if you ask Jaedong if he is the best player in the world, he will start to tell you about other good players like Flash or Best. That's called humility, and I guess it's somehow necessary to become great. Imo, laking that much humility is a very, very bad start to become a champion. Really man just look why he is saying im definantly the favorite, mabey its got something to do with hes playing like three times what the other guys are, look at whats happeing before blindly flaming Anyway i hope idra goes far, he has the skills to make it | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
Greg tell us about yourself please! ^_^ | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
On September 09 2008 18:08 Biff The Understudy wrote: Well, Idra is maybe very good but saying "I am definitly the best" sucks. I'm sure if you ask Jaedong if he is the best player in the world, he will start to tell you about other good players like Flash or Best. That's called humility, and I guess it's somehow necessary to become great. Imo, laking that much humility is a very, very bad start to become a champion. About being modest, or having humility, do people say it to sound good or do they really think that? just curious | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On September 09 2008 19:09 Elsi wrote: IdrA, in the CJ team tournament, who finished 1st and did you lose all your games or did you win some? Cheers I want to know this too :O | ||
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Krigstar
Sweden77 Posts
My oversimplified, extremely generalized and slightly america-mockingly interpretation is this: Question: Who are allowed to talk like they are the best in starcraft? Korean: The starleague champion. Non-American: Koreans. American: We talk before, after and during games, no matter the results. | ||
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
On September 17 2008 06:02 il0seonpurpose wrote: I think there are plenty of people out there that don't like arrogance.About being modest, or having humility, do people say it to sound good or do they really think that? just curious | ||
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
esport, real sport, w/e if you're good, you're good. | ||
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
On September 17 2008 21:29 jjun212 wrote: mohommed ali was a cocky guy wasnt he? esport, real sport, w/e if you're good, you're good. dude you cannot compare idra to ALI ALI was a champion, and he was playful cocky. idra is just seriously cocky IMO you only have the "right" to boast if you can back it up, idra cannot back up that he is the best foreigner at the moment, he didn't even get anywhere in the TSL when he was pinned up against the best foreigners! and even then humility makes the better champion. | ||
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n3m0
Portugal247 Posts
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iloveoil
Norway171 Posts
On September 17 2008 21:29 jjun212 wrote: mohommed ali was a cocky guy wasnt he? esport, real sport, w/e if you're good, you're good. he's not good ;p he's a publicity stunt | ||
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Gustav_Wind
United States646 Posts
He got to ro16 in TSL and ran into a very tough opponent in white-ra. If you go by that then you can say that Mondragon didn't get anywhere, either. The TSL was months ago as well. | ||
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Fad-D
United Kingdom42 Posts
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iloveoil
Norway171 Posts
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V6
147 Posts
It's ok to flame me. But I still hope he make it far so I can cheer for everyone he play. | ||
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stuzH
United States56 Posts
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United States18076 Posts
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