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mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
October 03 2003 17:19 GMT
#21
On October 03 2003 23:29 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
I have said it before that there is no good reason not to use them, pro gamers are finally seeing that.


reaper always makes the most clueless posts :[
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
October 03 2003 18:20 GMT
#22
yhe onlyu build that excels v dt, is vulture rush. other builds can deal with dt, but it still slows u down, when u vulture rush u basically want them to dt
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
October 03 2003 19:00 GMT
#23
Hovz, did you watch the Zeus vs Boxer game from earlier today?
choader
Profile Joined June 2003
United States487 Posts
October 03 2003 19:48 GMT
#24
On October 04 2003 01:46 iGgs wrote:
STIMEY D OKMG FISH
STIMEY D OKMG FISH


Am I the only one who initially reads "stimmed donkey fish" upon seeing this name?
Failure by design.
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
October 03 2003 19:51 GMT
#25
no, why?
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
October 03 2003 19:54 GMT
#26
Boxer did a 2 fact mostly-vulture opening and was still hurt badly by a simple dt rush. I was just curious about your opinion of that game, and particularly what went wrong for boxer. Since you haven't seen the vod I won't bother you though.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 04 2003 05:31 GMT
#27
He did a 2 fac gundam, not 2 fac vult (both speed and mines).
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
October 04 2003 05:52 GMT
#28
On October 04 2003 04:54 HnR)ht wrote:
Boxer did a 2 fact mostly-vulture opening and was still hurt badly by a simple dt rush. I was just curious about your opinion of that game, and particularly what went wrong for boxer. Since you haven't seen the vod I won't bother you though.


He simply forgot to make turrets. =[
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Ilintar
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland794 Posts
October 04 2003 06:21 GMT
#29
As a protoss player that's been playing DT as a starter all his life vs T, I'll say this - DT's are a _VERY GOOD_ start against _MOST_ terran buildups, as they allow you to a) delay terran expansion for a while b) contain him in his main with just 2 DT's until he gets mobile detection c) expo to another main early. However, DT's are also very vulnerable to any kind of vulture drop / early vessel strat. Of course, almost no one exactly plays that kind of strategy because it's pretty much useless against a well played 3 gate goon / obs, however, if DT's become more popular, this build can become more popular as well... generally speaking, IMO DT's are a more effective but less safe starting for P than goon / obs.
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HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
October 04 2003 07:13 GMT
#30
i dont have to watch the rep, but if boxer didnt get speed that can hurt, but u still shouldnt die, im guessing he didnt realize dts were coming until they were probly at his ramp
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
October 04 2003 07:28 GMT
#31
i dont think ive ever used dts against terran or toss since i've started playing again.. hmm.
GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
October 04 2003 07:28 GMT
#32
On October 04 2003 16:13 HovZ wrote:
i dont have to watch the rep, but if boxer didnt get speed that can hurt, but u still shouldnt die, im guessing he didnt realize dts were coming until they were probly at his ramp


Well, he tried to build turrets at his ramp but fucked up...same thing I suppose hehe
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 05 2003 03:16 GMT
#33
I rarely use dt as I typically find it better to do goon/obs... but since gundam and fast expo is becoming more popular, I am starting to use dt tech a lot more often.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
October 05 2003 05:59 GMT
#34
mines were in bad location
dt could cross the base, and the mine would not hit him
and he forgot to make a turret in his door
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x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
October 05 2003 08:30 GMT
#35
On October 04 2003 02:19 mindspike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2003 23:29 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
I have said it before that there is no good reason not to use them, pro gamers are finally seeing that.


reaper always makes the most clueless posts :[


How is this clueless?
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
October 05 2003 11:23 GMT
#36
On October 05 2003 17:30 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2003 02:19 mindspike wrote:
On October 03 2003 23:29 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
I have said it before that there is no good reason not to use them, pro gamers are finally seeing that.


reaper always makes the most clueless posts :[


How is this clueless?


because there are more good reasons to not use them than there are to use them? :[
why so 진지해?
xlkc
Profile Joined June 2003
United States77 Posts
October 06 2003 06:38 GMT
#37
dt opening indeed gives toss a huge advantage of delaying terran's exp and expand themseleves, even if u vultures rush, dual fact,mine/speed research, dts still beat it with some goons holding the ramp. any decent toss would know if u see mass vultures coming, switch to some goons. imo, 2 tank 1 dropship openinig with e-bay really fast is the best tvp opening when u dont know what toss is doing, put up a turret on the door and 2 near ur minerals if u suspect dt dropping, 1 turrets is not gonna stop 4 dts.. if he goes dts he cant expand to his natural because he desnt have drop yet to stop the cliff.
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
October 06 2003 08:34 GMT
#38
On October 04 2003 04:54 HnR)ht wrote:
Boxer did a 2 fact mostly-vulture opening and was still hurt badly by a simple dt rush. I was just curious about your opinion of that game, and particularly what went wrong for boxer. Since you haven't seen the vod I won't bother you though.


that's a very bad example to use to counter hovz's argument.
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-10-06 08:56:40
October 06 2003 08:55 GMT
#39
On October 06 2003 15:38 xlkc wrote:
dt opening indeed gives toss a huge advantage of delaying terran's exp and expand themseleves, even if u vultures rush, dual fact,mine/speed research, dts still beat it with some goons holding the ramp. any decent toss would know if u see mass vultures coming, switch to some goons. imo, 2 tank 1 dropship openinig with e-bay really fast is the best tvp opening when u dont know what toss is doing, put up a turret on the door and 2 near ur minerals if u suspect dt dropping, 1 turrets is not gonna stop 4 dts.. if he goes dts he cant expand to his natural because he desnt have drop yet to stop the cliff.


wrong, 2 fact speed mine vults absoluetly rape dt, u can prevent them expoing ANYWHERE and u can break the ramp 99% of the time
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