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protoss vs ultralisk

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Abang_Zealot
Profile Joined June 2003
Indonesia866 Posts
September 18 2003 03:59 GMT
#1
What's better to use in a pvz against upgraded ultra (in conjunction with zealot and dragoon)?

1) High Templar w/ Storm
OR
2) Dark Templar
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
September 18 2003 04:09 GMT
#2
REAVOR and DT
arbiter?
dark archon w/ maelstrom?
watch some pvz reps, maelstrom is nice (though hard to pull off), dts can work for a while, and reaver nice for damage (oooh yeh) and to splash ling.

also, against ultralisk, with protoss i recommend "gg, re?" and use terran nxt game...
A firebat to your Zergling.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 18 2003 04:11 GMT
#3
Dt+archon if you have the gas, sair+dt if they commit entirely to ling/ult.
Dark archon archon zealot dragoon templar.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
September 18 2003 04:28 GMT
#4
Hello? You are protoss, you can have ultras of your own too
micro soft, macro hard
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
September 18 2003 04:28 GMT
#5
archons roast the lings that appear with ultraling :O
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4720 Posts
September 18 2003 04:32 GMT
#6
tanks, lots of tanksPPPp
Pathetic Greta hater.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4115 Posts
September 18 2003 04:54 GMT
#7
many archons>ultra+lings(I mean many many) All u need is some gas(of course u wont find it:-))
when u face ultra make everything,storm,maelstorm,archons,dark templrars + corsair,protoss is capable of beating zerg on any map any time ,but its much harder :-))
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
ToKoreaWithLuck
Profile Joined July 2003
Norway227 Posts
September 18 2003 05:08 GMT
#8
Dont let the zerg go to ultra before u got 3 gas. If it does happen leave the game. To prevent a zerg going crack/ultra pressure pressure dont stop use zealrush dt clif cans storm drops reaver drops dt drops take him out of his natural scheme.
TKWL
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-18 06:17:46
September 18 2003 06:17 GMT
#9
lol, if ur gonna go lots archon, would it be useful then to cast hallu on 1 archon (so u have MANY archon) then mass morph HT's??

hahaha, i've tried v. a terran once, it actually provided so much meat shield that my goons could clean the push nicely ^^
A firebat to your Zergling.
BinGBonG[gamei]
Profile Joined May 2003
Netherlands514 Posts
September 18 2003 07:56 GMT
#10
try to grade shild when he go ultra it it work pretty good u wil own there ultras,
Smoke weed everyday ~-_-~
Dirk
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1339 Posts
September 18 2003 08:06 GMT
#11
from what i remember... dt/archon/zeal (with upgrades) owns ultras and ling..I know it worked for me.
Dont confuse me wit these suckas... cuz when I spit, you here more OOOs than a skip to my lou move.. at the ruckers - Lloyd Banks
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10373 Posts
September 18 2003 08:17 GMT
#12
pure power. Make as many units as you can depending on your min/gas ration and kill! DT's are gosu though
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
September 18 2003 12:59 GMT
#13
3rd place - Arbiters with statis.
2nd place - Dark archons with Mind Control.
1st place - Dark archons with MaelStron + Reavers.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
StierKooL
Profile Joined March 2003
Peru194 Posts
September 18 2003 13:04 GMT
#14
damnit
salsal.
MFaulk28
Profile Joined September 2003
United States36 Posts
September 18 2003 13:05 GMT
#15
nothing is good vs ultra unless you are way ahead and/or you have very good unit distribution ... like 4 reavers, 20 zeals, 10 darks, 5 archons, 10 dragoons ...

if they get ultras you should probly just leave cuz chances are you wont win (if upgraded)
and the d is for deez nuts and u can get each one for free so feast up
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
September 18 2003 13:06 GMT
#16
reaver corsair and dt
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 18 2003 13:08 GMT
#17
If they get ultra, and you both have half of the map, but he has islands, turtle, and go carriers. Kill their islands first, take the islands, then kill rest (assuming it's LT)
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
[G]Max_Power
Profile Joined January 2003
Slovakia304 Posts
September 18 2003 14:46 GMT
#18
reaver>>>>>ultra ling hydra lurk
1 beer plz
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
September 18 2003 15:19 GMT
#19
On September 18 2003 23:46 [G]Max_Power wrote:
reaver>>>>>ultra ling hydra lurk


In theory, yes (except for the hydra).

In game, no.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 18 2003 15:34 GMT
#20
archon dt pwn -.-; however dark archons are almost a necessity and templars also. Depends on the unit counts of course but a couple of das with maelstorm can balance the battle hell lot.
River me timbers.
Eliminator
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands681 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-18 16:00:01
September 18 2003 15:59 GMT
#21
A good thing vs crack/ultra is to start grading armor and shield right after your +1 weapon upgrade.
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
September 18 2003 17:24 GMT
#22
yeah, a lot of people dont upgrade shields and that is devastating, they rip thru 1/2 of your life in .1 seconds... at the cost of 900/900 you can get +3 shields and it owns
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
TheInca
Profile Joined August 2003
Korea (South)10 Posts
September 18 2003 18:26 GMT
#23
2 replay's toss vs Ultralisk Ver 1.09
http://211.233.94.10/board/gosureplay/download.php?idx=12140&no=1
IntotalRain vs Ares[SpeeD] Lost temple

http://211.233.94.10/board/gosureplay/download.php?idx=13041&no=1
IntotalRain vs Ares[SpeeD] Blade Storm

2 rep very good game
-_-;
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10373 Posts
September 18 2003 18:51 GMT
#24
What a really good replay was the game where the zerg guy goes massive ultras and starts owning the toss guy and then the toss guy switches to massive DT and owns the zerg guy and then the zerg guy takes both islands and comes back to win it lol

I forgot what players were playing. I am sure someone knows.
dork
Profile Joined September 2003
Canada2207 Posts
September 18 2003 20:44 GMT
#25
archons and dts are good
staring at the world through the rear view
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
September 18 2003 20:56 GMT
#26
zealot archon templar.
storm blanketing.
nothing else works.
JAM THE FUCKER!
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
September 18 2003 21:24 GMT
#27
Beating ultralisks is not in trying to beat down every single one of them, especially if your army is doomed to be crushed if u walk out. Attack the area where zerg is weakest and where zerg needs the most of to make ultralisks. HIS ECONOMY!!!!!! nobody i mean absolutely nobody (cept pros) use shuttles effectively to wipe out zerg economy which i find is the most annoying thing in the world as zerg. The best way to beat ultras is to never fight them, or never let them get built. Attack zerg economy is the best way to fighting ultras. If you let zerg mass ultra, you have already made a big mistake and you are fucked.
We decide our own destiny
Tossim
Profile Joined September 2003
19 Posts
September 19 2003 19:50 GMT
#28
Hope that they are retarded and forget to upgrade the bags of unbalance.
lOZL
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
September 19 2003 20:02 GMT
#29
1. put down the mouse
2. pick up a maxim
3. beat off
4. leave game
5. take a nap
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
mnr mnr hrt hrt
Profile Joined September 2003
United States11 Posts
September 19 2003 20:24 GMT
#30
--- Nuked ---
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
September 19 2003 20:41 GMT
#31
I'm telling you - MaelStrom + almost anything with high damage OWNZ!!!
I cant believe so few ppl are useing it...
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
[G]Max_Power
Profile Joined January 2003
Slovakia304 Posts
September 20 2003 07:47 GMT
#32
ok so at mid-game u got templars zealots and goons. these units are more than a good counter to mass hydra and lurkz.then Z gets ultras and crax.these units clearly own the above one toss units.BUT mixing some reavers in that army is truly devastating against ultra/ling. the problem is that most toss users dont want to get reavers cuz they think they are too expenz and slow to build.I say u already got 1 robotics and then making another one and a robosupport aint that much of money plus reavers are cheap(yes) and they dont-take-too-long to build...
ppl underestimate revs so much
1 beer plz
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-20 08:22:42
September 20 2003 08:18 GMT
#33
try hitting their economy with drops if undefended, 4 dt on an unprotected base filled with drones is a beautiful sight.

also try to be smart about your building placement at new bases. put gateways and pylons in front of cannons to hold back ultra and force lings to run through it like a sift(sp? its kinda late here..)
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
Eliminator
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands681 Posts
September 20 2003 09:33 GMT
#34
Go watch nal_ra reps, you'll see what I'm talking about.
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