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ToKoreaWithLuck
Profile Joined July 2003
Norway227 Posts
September 18 2003 13:26 GMT
#81
On September 18 2003 21:54 MFaulk28 wrote:
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On September 18 2003 08:02 ToKoreaWithLuck wrote:
On September 18 2003 02:26 MFaulk28 wrote:
dude i did this build for like the past 6 months before i quit ... it sucks vs any 2 fact build or 1 rax marine /1 fact tank build ... but it sucks to get obs, it slows you down so much, the ob is stupid if you are gonna do this build just build the robo, skip observatory, build nex in natural then get shuttle .. youll have 3 dragoon by the time they drop your cliff, or if they expo then u can exp again in like 4 minutes after that expo and it tears it up, if you find any replay of me thats fairly recent pvt i used to do it pretty much every game i saw 1 fact build in pvt ... it works well vs 1 fact but always loses vs 2 fact ... even if you add 4 gates total youll be too late cuz terran will take your natural and itll be all over for u.
What expand. The obs is in 5 minute in ennemy base. Then u decide what to do. If u see a 2 fact well dropship/goon whatever 3/4 gates. Toss doesnt expand in this build.


The whole point of doing this is to expand early, if you dont build dragoon before your robo you are doomed to lose to 2 fact no matter what .. ive done this build probably over 300 times pvt ... you should only be doing it if they 1 fact, that is, if you can see only 1 fact with your probe in their base. the whole point of any pvt build is to expand as fast as possible, nothing else is important ... building an ob isnt going to do anything for you except slow you down ... youd find out about a drop maybe 10-15 seconds sooner, but who cares because if you know they arent 2 facting then you defend your main and your cliff, its pretty fricken easy. if you build observatory and ob and wait to see what they are doing to expand you arent gaining any advantage whatsoever, you are only risking a quick loss to 2 fact : [

What do u mean with 2 fact. Bamboo? Rien tank?
If u put the zeal on the choke terran isnt gonna scout u. Terran will play safe imo and put turets and his base and wait with pushing. Yea well I dont die to a 2 fact not even to a 3 fact with 4 gates. U can see his base, when he comes out ... Maybe I am using the wrong words when I try to explain myself dunno. 5minutes and 25 seconds and the observer is in terr main. I played like 10+ games with this build now. On LT it works. But I would not play it on a map without the possibility to keep the scv outside ur base. And what I am explaining is not that 'bulldog' anymore. This is better imho.
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HnR)Kim
Profile Joined March 2003
Korea (South)8 Posts
September 18 2003 16:10 GMT
#82
On September 17 2003 21:06 NuclearAntelope wrote:
Ugh, you people have bulldog all wrong:
-After core, no goon yet.
-Get robo with first 200 gas
-Make a single goon for cliff
-Next get goon range, then observatory
-Due to the mass amounts of minerals you should have, build 2 MORE gates(total of 3)
-Continue pumping goons
-Chances are, terran will try some sort of attack withen first 10 min, whether it be tank drop or vultures.
-After you stop initial attack, exp x2.
-You will be able to get 200/200 very fast with this, remember to put EMPHASIS ON NON STOP PROBES.

if all else fails, just do proxy gates


stand corrected. my english sucks -_-; thx
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luminosity_
Profile Joined September 2003
Canada378 Posts
September 18 2003 21:23 GMT
#83
i remember when "korean style terran" sucked too back when ssamjang was going metal vs protoss. OMG WHERE ARE THE RAX
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