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shuttlespeed
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ToKoreaWithLuck
Norway227 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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Beamo
France1279 Posts
Micro: goon/shuttle Macro: take 2 expansions Bulldog looks like a macro player to me ;p | ||
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Fever_tr
Turkey222 Posts
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BinGBonG[gamei]
Netherlands514 Posts
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
but back to that rep, it seems he should have died unless you think 2 goons with range and 1 observer beat 7 vultures with speed and mines. maybe i'm wrong but those vultures should have killed all that shit and i'd like to see this strat tried vs someone who micros as well as the person doing it. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 17 2003 18:35 STIMEY D OKMG FISH wrote: o well if the guy post wrong build then oke. :| Build is correct but he didn't mention goon iirc oOz | ||
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uK]BosNia
Canada78 Posts
On September 16 2003 22:43 NewbieMcNasty wrote: Its basically IS a fast observer build, except range is ten seconds faster in exchange for the first dragoon to be ten seconds slower. There are some fast observer builds that are half decent vs gundam though. Usually they envolve starting gas a bit early, and sacrificing probe production a bit in order to get 4 goons with range and an observer out at nat by the time terran shows up with his initial push force. If you don't get that extra gas you are either missing a goon, range, or obs, and that would not be adequate to defeat 2 scvs, 4 marines, a tank and one or two vults. ageed 100%  | ||
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NuclearAntelope
United States1369 Posts
-After core, no goon yet. -Get robo with first 200 gas -Make a single goon for cliff -Next get goon range, then observatory -Due to the mass amounts of minerals you should have, build 2 MORE gates(total of 3) -Continue pumping goons -Chances are, terran will try some sort of attack withen first 10 min, whether it be tank drop or vultures. -After you stop initial attack, exp x2. -You will be able to get 200/200 very fast with this, remember to put EMPHASIS ON NON STOP PROBES. if all else fails, just do proxy gates | ||
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ToKoreaWithLuck
Norway227 Posts
pylon/gate/gas/core then u make a zeal (delays a litlle probe production but oh well ^^) AND u should have a probe on ur clif u replace it with ur zealot. No scouting for terran. after core robo asap observatory and observer (rally to base) then range and add 2 more gateways or do something else ofcorz. The idea is fast obs so u can see what ter does and adapt to it as efficient as possible. I dont care what u think is best vs FE/2FAC/DROP thats ur own choice ... I tested it and u should get the observer in 5 minute (a litlle bit more) in his base. If u see a bamboo =) well u got some choices: U could try reaver/goon but bleh I think 4 gate should stop the bamboo and u can take ur expand --; Nice build man its very strong =) | ||
ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLuck
Norway227 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
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MFaulk28
United States36 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLuck
Norway227 Posts
On September 18 2003 02:26 MFaulk28 wrote: What expand. The obs is in 5 minute in ennemy base. Then u decide what to do. If u see a 2 fact well dropship/goon whatever 3/4 gates. Toss doesnt expand in this build. dude i did this build for like the past 6 months before i quit ... it sucks vs any 2 fact build or 1 rax marine /1 fact tank build ... but it sucks to get obs, it slows you down so much, the ob is stupid if you are gonna do this build just build the robo, skip observatory, build nex in natural then get shuttle .. youll have 3 dragoon by the time they drop your cliff, or if they expo then u can exp again in like 4 minutes after that expo and it tears it up, if you find any replay of me thats fairly recent pvt i used to do it pretty much every game i saw 1 fact build in pvt ... it works well vs 1 fact but always loses vs 2 fact ... even if you add 4 gates total youll be too late cuz terran will take your natural and itll be all over for u. | ||
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MFaulk28
United States36 Posts
On September 18 2003 08:02 ToKoreaWithLuck wrote: What expand. The obs is in 5 minute in ennemy base. Then u decide what to do. If u see a 2 fact well dropship/goon whatever 3/4 gates. Toss doesnt expand in this build. yeah well going off what you just said its safe to assume you suck. the whole point of doing this is to expand early, if you dont build dragoon before your robo you are doomed to lose to 2 fact no matter what .. ive done this build probably over 300 times pvt ... you should only be doing it if they 1 fact, that is, if you can see only 1 fact with your probe in their base. the whole point of any pvt build is to expand as fast as possible, nothing else is important ... building an ob isnt going to do anything for you except slow you down ... youd find out about a drop maybe 10-15 seconds sooner, but who cares because if you know they arent 2 facting then you defend your main and your cliff, its pretty fricken easy. if you build observatory and ob and wait to see what they are doing to expand you arent gaining any advantage whatsoever, you are only risking a quick loss to 2 fact : [ | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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ToKoreaWithLuck
Norway227 Posts
On September 18 2003 21:54 MFaulk28 wrote: How do I react on this?yeah well going off what you just said its safe to assume you suck. [ | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
You say: Well going off what you said in your first post and your performance in wcg/tlt/etc it's safe to assume you suck. | ||
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