• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:48
CET 14:48
KST 22:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Evil Geniuses - shutting down Liquibets sc2 season 30 Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE!
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Men's Fashion Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11251 users

Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL

Forum Index > BW General
300 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1561 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-30 23:51:11
July 02 2025 03:19 GMT
#1
Update2


Update:
+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler +
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2755 Posts
July 02 2025 04:13 GMT
#2
It's ogre.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3173 Posts
July 02 2025 04:22 GMT
#3
Shame to hear he wont be playing this up coming ASL. I do hope in the future he can do one last ASL like he said when his wrist get better.
Artosis loves Starcraft
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-02 04:40:08
July 02 2025 04:39 GMT
#4
I was always curious how he holds up vs current Soulkey who looks unbeatable. I guess he still plays broodwar but cant practice extensively to the point of getting to competitive form I assume

He might really just be a streamer from now on
this is a quote
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1561 Posts
July 02 2025 04:42 GMT
#5
On July 02 2025 13:39 goody153 wrote:
I was always curious how he holds up vs current Soulkey who looks unbeatable. I guess he still plays broodwar but cant practice extensively to the point of getting to competitive form I assume

He might really just be a streamer from now on


you can look up here
https://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=search_list

[image loading]
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-02 05:14:33
July 02 2025 05:14 GMT
#6
Bad for the competition (or good if you want to read it like that), regrettable for us, but good for him and the right thing to do. Wouldn't want to live the rest of his life with completely defect hands.

Everyone knows he'd still beat anyone and win ASL if his body let him.
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States2039 Posts
July 02 2025 05:15 GMT
#7
TL'DW = so he "retired." because of his wrists but guarantees he will be back at least once in the future to give it his all. so it's basically more of a break than a retirement for anyone curious.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland631 Posts
July 02 2025 05:59 GMT
#8
First entering tournament with random, then dodges an ASL, then retiring until 'he feels better'. Sure, this has absolutely nothing to do with PR and potential ego loss.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9430 Posts
July 02 2025 06:25 GMT
#9
Too bad

Thanks for translation jinjin !!

PS: he is observing Effort vs TY
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1781 Posts
July 02 2025 06:36 GMT
#10
I can totally understand someone who has been dominant as Flash not bothering with tournaments if he feels that he can't be competitive as he used to be because of an injury. It would be interesting to have a Flash vs SK even though I believe Flash would come up on top. Not saying it would be easy far from it, but from what I have seen so far, Flash seems to always be one step ahead. As for Soma, bro is so scared he doesn't even open hatch 12 anymore lol, I don't even think he could kill Light.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8219 Posts
July 02 2025 08:06 GMT
#11
That’s so sad. I was really, really looking forward seeing him play. Don’t quite know who to root for now.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-02 08:48:13
July 02 2025 08:48 GMT
#12
Why is everyone still saying so sad? He said he will come back if his wrist heals. And even if it doesn't, he still guarantees us 1 more showing in ASL at least where he tries his hardest. Save the retirement posts for when he actually retires.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
July 02 2025 09:26 GMT
#13
On July 02 2025 13:42 jinjin5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2025 13:39 goody153 wrote:
I was always curious how he holds up vs current Soulkey who looks unbeatable. I guess he still plays broodwar but cant practice extensively to the point of getting to competitive form I assume

He might really just be a streamer from now on


you can look up here
https://eloboard.com/men/bbs/board.php?bo_table=search_list

[image loading]

Thanks man. I assume this is their like ladder stat or proleague stuff or something not ASL
this is a quote
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3406 Posts
July 02 2025 09:26 GMT
#14
Yes I'm with Bonyth on this one. While it's a valid reason to not compete anymore, to me it feels like it's a convenient excuse for him to keep his image. He doesn't want to enter the tournament not being the clear favourite he was before. He hasn't had a positive record against Snow, Best, Mini and especially Light since coming back. That leaves him in the spot of "just one of the top Terrans" - not the undisputed goat player. Rather keep the image of "he can win when he wants" than being just one of the contenders.

It's a bit like Rain with his laid back preparation in ASL to keep the image of "the most talented Protoss, if he puts in the effort and stops playing League he'd win another ASL and become a Protoss bonjwa"

spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
151 Posts
July 02 2025 09:35 GMT
#15
Noooooooo, wire up some robotic wrists or something

Fml
You were wrong before, what makes you think you're right now
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4300 Posts
July 02 2025 10:14 GMT
#16
Bummer.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1778 Posts
July 02 2025 10:18 GMT
#17
It does strike me as weird that he says he doesn't want to compete because of his wrist pain and that he says it while playing BW, which would be the cause for his pain?
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3406 Posts
July 02 2025 10:43 GMT
#18
Yeah he played 20 games vs Soma over the two days after Soma's return. He's been playing the amount of games any ASL player would play normally.

Plus he was playing regularly before his military service, ASL and online. Then he was absent for 4 years. If anything his wirst should get better, not worse. And if it does get worse, why is he still playing online, chinese ultimate battle, proleagues etc.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5996 Posts
July 02 2025 11:30 GMT
#19
On July 02 2025 18:26 TMNT wrote:
Yes I'm with Bonyth on this one. While it's a valid reason to not compete anymore, to me it feels like it's a convenient excuse for him to keep his image. He doesn't want to enter the tournament not being the clear favourite he was before. He hasn't had a positive record against Snow, Best, Mini and especially Light since coming back. That leaves him in the spot of "just one of the top Terrans" - not the undisputed goat player. Rather keep the image of "he can win when he wants" than being just one of the contenders.

It's a bit like Rain with his laid back preparation in ASL to keep the image of "the most talented Protoss, if he puts in the effort and stops playing League he'd win another ASL and become a Protoss bonjwa"


That Rain analogy is unreasonably stretching it lol. It would look great on Flash if he can blantantly admit he doesn't like his current odds to seal the deal, instead of playing just the injury card. But he doesn't have to create a memory like Nada in MSL 2009 if he doesn't want to, especially if it would mean destroying his wrist even further...

...Ironically Flash is clicking and drag boxing like crazy whilst just watching a game while citing his excuse to retire from ASL, so what it's worth I'd love to see Flash destroy his wrist even further to get a few Silver medals and thennnnn another gold.
FBH #1!
zelevin
Profile Joined January 2012
United States332 Posts
July 02 2025 12:31 GMT
#20
Wow everyone loves making these character judgments. Flash can take a day off from streaming if he needs to without stress. He can't take a day off practicing for ASL without stressing out about it.
Another case of people saying, "nah I know what flash is really thinking!" Because they watched a few games and a translated video lol just take the guy at his word. What he says makes sense.
"You're the idiot, idiot. That's why your fuckin' name is Idiot." - Artosis to CSG
1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Summer Champion…
21:00
Not-Summer Champs Playoffs
WardiTV717
Rex112
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko376
Rex 120
TKL 107
SHIN 36
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1523
Mini 976
Horang2 752
Light 404
Soma 346
BeSt 342
Stork 272
firebathero 241
Snow 235
Rush 213
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 200
ZerO 183
hero 126
Leta 122
Killer 98
Soulkey 92
Zeus 79
Sea.KH 78
Mind 68
Sharp 59
Barracks 51
sorry 45
Hyun 44
ToSsGirL 42
Creator 30
Movie 29
Bale 29
Yoon 24
Trap 23
JYJ 22
soO 22
Terrorterran 22
Hm[arnc] 15
Rock 13
Sacsri 13
yabsab 11
Noble 10
Icarus 6
Dota 2
Dendi780
Fuzer 128
Counter-Strike
markeloff941
olofmeister778
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes289
Other Games
B2W.Neo953
Beastyqt619
hiko505
Pyrionflax311
dupreeh280
DeMusliM252
Livibee98
Mew2King55
ArmadaUGS39
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL421
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 50
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt503
Other Games
• WagamamaTV300
Upcoming Events
Patches Events
12m
TKL 107
PiGosaur Cup
11h 12m
Kung Fu Cup
21h 12m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
The PondCast
1d 20h
KCM Race Survival
1d 20h
OSC
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
IPSL
4 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.