How do you feel about Flash possibly returning to Brood Wa…

On July 23 2024 02:03 NoobSkills wrote:
I feel like those who gambled on a get rich quick scheme are looking for an out for their own personal mistake. Glad he is back and not letting the poor decisions of meme coin investors keep him down.

On July 24 2024 00:04 riotjune wrote:
I'd like to see him ousted from the BW community forever, just as with savior (and life in SC2). Why? I don't really care about justice or due punishment, nope. I just want to see legendary figures do a complete nosedive into the greatest failures and become the antithesis of what they used to represent, if only to make myself feel a bit better about my own worthless existence with zero accomplishments. Society might enjoy seeing an Icarus fly close to the sun, inspiring hopes and dreams of their own. But society definitely enjoys seeing that same Icarus fall flat on his ass way, way more. After all, that's the essence of gossip (aka entertainment), isn't it? Are you not entertained?

Oops, I'm starting to sound like the maga crowd who want to force women into having unwanted children, take away their social safety nets, and have them grow up and instead of becoming productive tax-paying members of society, relish in the idea of these mongrels turning to a life of crime and turning society to shit. Pro-life? F that. Basically, I just want others to be as miserable as the heroin-shooting, trailer trash that I am. Bonus points if they used to be well-regarded and respectable people in their field, that shit sustains my inner schadenfreude's wretched existence. The bigger they are, the harder they fall! I'm like the Lich King edging myself to Arthas's downfall.

I mean, if people like Trump can find ways to shit on actual legends like Lincoln and Washington, just to stroke their own worthless egos and help them sleep at night, then I'm going to do it too. Maybe I should become a Nazi too, heard that was the cool thing to do nowadays. But then again, I'm getting too old to go through another edgy adolescent phase?

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On July 24 2024 00:04 riotjune wrote:
I'd like to see him ousted from the BW community forever, just as with savior (and life in SC2). Why? I don't really care about justice or due punishment, nope. I just want to see legendary figures do a complete nosedive into the greatest failures and become the antithesis of what they used to represent, if only to make myself feel a bit better about my own worthless existence with zero accomplishments. Society might enjoy seeing an Icarus fly close to the sun, inspiring hopes and dreams of their own. But society definitely enjoys seeing that same Icarus fall flat on his ass way, way more. After all, that's the essence of gossip (aka entertainment), isn't it? Are you not entertained?

Oops, I'm starting to sound like the maga crowd who want to force women into having unwanted children, take away their social safety nets, and have them grow up and instead of becoming productive tax-paying members of society, relish in the idea of these mongrels turning to a life of crime and turning society to shit. Pro-life? F that. Basically, I just want others to be as miserable as the heroin-shooting, trailer trash that I am. Bonus points if they used to be well-regarded and respectable people in their field, that shit sustains my inner schadenfreude's wretched existence. The bigger they are, the harder they fall! I'm like the Lich King edging myself to Arthas's downfall.

I mean, if people like Trump can find ways to shit on actual legends like Lincoln and Washington, just to stroke their own worthless egos and help them sleep at night, then I'm going to do it too. Maybe I should become a Nazi too, heard that was the cool thing to do nowadays. But then again, I'm getting too old to go through another edgy adolescent phase?

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On July 23 2024 05:48 Ideas wrote:


Dude the whole world economy is a get rick quick scheme lmao

On July 23 2024 02:03 NoobSkills wrote:
I feel like those who gambled on a get rich quick scheme are looking for an out for their own personal mistake. Glad he is back and not letting the poor decisions of meme coin investors keep him down.

On July 25 2024 05:33 WombaT wrote:

You seem to be giving Flash a rather generous pass on his own poor decisions in this matter

On July 26 2024 12:09 Optimate wrote:
I really don't think anything at all. I think it is a fake scandal. People try to hard to cancel people these days. Community needs to stop being snowflakes
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On July 24 2024 00:04 riotjune wrote:
I'd like to see him ousted from the BW community forever, just as with savior (and life in SC2). Why? I don't really care about justice or due punishment, nope. I just want to see legendary figures do a complete nosedive into the greatest failures and become the antithesis of what they used to represent, if only to make myself feel a bit better about my own worthless existence with zero accomplishments. Society might enjoy seeing an Icarus fly close to the sun, inspiring hopes and dreams of their own. But society definitely enjoys seeing that same Icarus fall flat on his ass way, way more. After all, that's the essence of gossip (aka entertainment), isn't it? Are you not entertained?

Oops, I'm starting to sound like the maga crowd who want to force women into having unwanted children, take away their social safety nets, and have them grow up and instead of becoming productive tax-paying members of society, relish in the idea of these mongrels turning to a life of crime and turning society to shit. Pro-life? F that. Basically, I just want others to be as miserable as the heroin-shooting, trailer trash that I am. Bonus points if they used to be well-regarded and respectable people in their field, that shit sustains my inner schadenfreude's wretched existence. The bigger they are, the harder they fall! I'm like the Lich King edging myself to Arthas's downfall.

I mean, if people like Trump can find ways to shit on actual legends like Lincoln and Washington, just to stroke their own worthless egos and help them sleep at night, then I'm going to do it too. Maybe I should become a Nazi too, heard that was the cool thing to do nowadays. But then again, I'm getting too old to go through another edgy adolescent phase?

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On July 27 2024 16:24 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
#StopTheCope

Flash did the bad. That's a fact.

No need to make up excuses for him.

He is the greatest BW player. Also a fact.

Just because he is the BW goat that does not make him a good person automatically.

You CAN like his skills AND dislike his real life choices at the same time.

To the people who just say "it was the fault of his for trusting him" I GUARANTEE you would not be saying that if it was YOU getting scammed. For example say you deposit 1000 bucks in ur bank and the next day the bank tells you "OH BRUH THAT 1000 BUCKS IS NOW ACTUALLY OUR MONEY, SHOULDA READ THE SMALL PRINT BRUH" I 1000% guarantee you would NOT accept that. You would not say "I guess I should have read the small print, it was all my fault, I am dumb therefore I do not deserve my money, the bank got me fair and square"

BTW I voted Very positive for his return.

On July 27 2024 05:01 Drock wrote:
Get off the pharmaceuticals, stop lying to yourself, and go for a walk. You don’t have to live this way. Your existence is not worthless and if you have accomplished nothing, that is 100% on you. Stop using others to excuse your outlook on life and start focusing on making your life better. Otherwise, your pain and anguish will continue for the rest of your life. Being angry, depressed, and miserable is a hard life with terrible results. Facing reality, bettering yourself, and changing your life is also a hard life but yields much better results. Choose your hard.

On July 28 2024 03:03 NoobSkills wrote:


You're right, I would be mad at the sham bank. I would be mad at the owner of the sham bank. I would also be mad at myself for not doing any research about the sham bank and foolishly putting my money in with an unstable banking institution.

What I wouldn't do. Is blame someone who had a good experience at that same bank. Or the lady they hired for a commercial for their advertisement for the bank. Seeing as that lady had no idea the bank was a sham bank. Nor was it her responsibility to investigate the sham bank's shammyness.

"Flash did the bad" No, no he didn't. There is a reason why there are zero legal repercussions for what happened for flash. It is because he did not in fact "do the bad". You can't even argue he has some sort of moral responsibility outside of the law because he didn't know it was going to be a scam coin.

On July 30 2024 20:11 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Why would people invest in a random shitcoin because their favourite starcraft player tells them to.
The crypto stuff is stupid but it's good to see him back.

On July 30 2024 20:03 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:


Just because something is legal or illegal does not automatically make it good or bad. For example legal executions

"(Sea, flash, Guemchi and non sc streamers) to invest crypto he was planning to make called "T.ocoin". They signed agreement that their money will be secured no matter what."

So apparently he would not have lost money either way (provided "good guy Suit" came through, that's the person behind the coin). ^_._^ This is very different from being paid directly to advertise a product you don't personally own AND you are hiding you actually own it without a possibility of losing money.

Let's say only a few people invested in it. Then Flash pulls out his money driving the price even lower and Suit pays him the difference as per the contract. Flash lost basically nothing. While average investor lost a lot because they are not covered against a loss and they didn't know Flash had so little confidence he had to be making a Free bet essentially and in secret to risk his own money.

Presumably if people knew he was making a free bet they would be less confident about their own investment.

There definitely is a legal and moral debate to be had.

Otherwise he would not have gone into hiding and his fans would have been happy to lose their money.

On July 31 2024 07:14 NoobSkills wrote:


1. Correct about the law, it doesn't fully determine good/bad and sometimes encompasses crazy things that it probably shouldn't. However, it still remains that no law was broken.

2. It does not matter how he was paid or if it was guaranteed to be backed as part of his advertising for the coin, as long as he didn't know it was a scam, and wasn't an owner of the company, he was just a paid actor. You don't hold others responsible for the companies they promote, and even if you do, you shouldn't. Boycott the company, take them the court sure, but he wasn't in charge of anything.

3. There is absolutely zero legal debate to be had no matter how you feel on the subject, nor moral for that matter. If he had known or was an owner sure, you could make that argument, but he wasn't and he didn't.

4. Anyone investing in some meme coin or NFT is playing the lotto. They made their choice regardless, and unfortunately their number didn't get picked. Their get rich quick scheme failed and they probably should have diversified their investments in a normal stock market if they wanted a sure thing. Now they're looking for someone to blame and anyone to blame, when in reality it was their choice, nobody made them invest in such a risky entity.

Yes, I do feel sorry some unintelligent people were taken by a scam coin creator, but blame needs to go where it belongs. And IMO it belongs with the scam coin owners and the individuals themselves who tried to scheme to riches rather than make educated decisions, instead of the list of paid actors who didn't own the entity.

On July 31 2024 20:58 Agh wrote:
This is about the biggest non issue being made into something it's not that I've seen in awhile. Having an issue with flash on this just highlights yourself being as gullible and ignorant as the people that got taken advantage of.
Predatory practices should be condoned, but at the end of the day in this instance the only thing flash is guilty of is being a scapegoat to mask the blame people aren't willing to accept themselves.

On July 31 2024 16:53 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:


I think the more reasonable assumption to make is he knew exactly what he was doing.

He put $200 000 of his own money after all.

So that is the ammount he owned. And he was guaranteed by the creator that he gets it back if everything fails.

Of course there is a legal debate in the sense of different laws around the world regarding insider trading for one. Some people even argue that insider trading is good.

I would love if a korean lawyer familiar with the matter explained it all from their perspective.

People invest because of their emotions not just because of rational reasons.

I think its analagous of requiring helmets for bike riders. Nobody makes people ride bikes at high speeds without helmet. They do it because it feels good. But helmets are required because when a person crashes there are terrible consequences for themselves and others.

Some new laws and regulations were passed after GME to ensure more informed decisions and hopefully force ppl to do their research. Its still a wild west situation in many aspects tho.

On August 01 2024 06:01 NoobSkills wrote:


Knew what exactly? Despite all those who are rocking pitchforks about this, there is NOBODY who claims he owned the coin company nor knew about it being a scam coin. So your claim that he "knew exactly what he was doing" is either BS or you have info you haven't shared here. Beyond all of that it makes no difference if his investment was backed or not, he was a celebrity marketing tool, how he chose to be paid makes zero difference.

There is no legal debate for numerous reasons. Firstly because meme coins are mostly unregulated and insider trading would have nothing to do with it. Also even in a weird correlation where you'd consider it insider trading, nobody has claimed he had any info that would be deemed insider. And nobody considers insider trading a good thing except those taking advantage of it at the cost of others, there is literally no loser who thinks their stock's value being manipulated is a good thing. I'm not sure why you'd need a lawyer to explain it to you considering there is no issue.

As for investing emotionally. You're more than welcome to invest in that run down house you love or that broken down car or that NFT or whatever you want. But you are the only one to blame when that goes wrong. And if the person who directly sold/owned the item before you hid information about it you can blame them. But you don't get to randomly assign blame to someone who was a marketing ploy or paid actor.

On July 31 2024 20:58 Agh wrote:
This is about the biggest non issue being made into something it's not that I've seen in awhile. Having an issue with flash on this just highlights yourself being as gullible and ignorant as the people that got taken advantage of.
Predatory practices should be condoned, but at the end of the day in this instance the only thing flash is guilty of is being a scapegoat to mask the blame people aren't willing to accept themselves.

On July 24 2024 05:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:

Not shot you bringing Kobe and Ronaldo into this. Rip kobe man and Ronaldo is not guilty.
Like respectfully you can f*ck yourself.

On July 28 2024 04:52 tankgirl wrote:


Suppose I'm disabled? And suppose I can't walk? Suppose I have an inherited nerve condition I've developed since I was 12. Suppose my hands and feet dont work anymore. Suppose I'm just 22 with no job and no education. Suppose no one will hire me. Suppose I watched all my bests friends get degrees/husbands/careers, and they left me in the dust. Suppose during COVID I spent 3 years lying in a bed. Suppose for last 10 years I've watched my own mother's descent into depression, opioid use, and addiction, as chronic pain overwhelmed her while her nerves and connective tissues fall apart and failed her at age 40.

Suppose I know for a fact I will live through the same fate. Suppose I am watching it happen daily. Suppose I can't hold a pen or a pencil anymore, not like I could just a few years ago. Suppose I need a wheelchair. Suppose I can barely type on a keyboard now. And yet in my mind, suppose I'm still just "a normal" 22 year old girl, with hopes and dreams...

"Facing reality" .... "bettering yourself". ... "Choose your hard." ???

FUCK YOU, abelist asshole.


P.S. Flash is gonna come back. The end.

Try to do something nice for someone today without expecting anything in return. ... Your hopes and dreams may seem impossible, and maybe they are, but you using what’s happened to you as an excuse to wish ill upon others will guarantee that you will be miserable for the rest of your life and your hopes and dreams are as good as dead.

On August 03 2024 03:36 Sentikoret wrote:

Drock, you know, if you wrote something like "you are not bedridden, tankgirl, you are in siege mode", it wouldn't be as trollish.
Not everyone gets to be to be Ironmouse, changing your life path from "being terminally ill with no treatment" into "becoming a champion for the [looking for a cure or treatment] Foundation". People who have all reasons to be bitter aren't the best recruits for your "Truth" whatever it is. Leaving it be is the best case scenario.
P.S. I can't find forum rules - wasn't riotjune's post (#12) supposed to be in the "US Politics Mega-thread" containment chamber due to the amount of politics in it and warning-worthy outside of it?

On August 02 2024 18:15 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:


He BOUGHT in the coin for $200K of his own money. That's not simply "paid to promote it".

Exactly what you said IS the legal debate. How much regulation should there be.

I too was surprised when I looked up this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insider_trading

"Some economists, such as Henry Manne, argued that insider trading should be allowed and could, in fact, benefit markets."

By the way I WOULD blame a paid actor if they are trying to sell me something they know is shit. Or even if they didn't do basic research on a harmful product, or did but still chose to take the money anyway. Especially if it's just a matter of greed and not survival. But this is a whole another topic...

On August 04 2024 02:12 NoobSkills wrote:


I'm sorry are sports stars, celebrities, esports players and alike all required to disclose their investments? Oh wait... they're not. And it doesn't matter if he invested 200k of his own money, if it was backed or not, or how he received compensation for promoting a product. You're holding to a standard that NOBODY else is being held to.

What I said is NOT the legal debate. There can be all sorts of regulations, it still wouldn't change the fact that he was not the owner of the coin company or maker. There is no legal debate in regard to flash. And there is no "insider trading" for meme coins, not to mention that what happened couldn't even be associated with insider trading unless you have info that NOBODY else has. Nobody is out there claiming he knew it was a scam or had information others didn't, not a single person.

On August 04 2024 02:48 jinjin5000 wrote:


not disclosing their investment when they (were) going to promote it is shady to say the very least.
The incident blew up just before that happened but they were filming ads for it anyway so the plan was to do that.
not only that, the investment was guaranteed on their end to compensate if it doesn't work out- a 0 risk insider trading of sorts.