Hello guys, I would like to invite you to both play and watch the new event we are going to run. StarLeague is the best, Race Wars is exciting, but Nation Wars are the classics. Unfortunately we are not in the stage where we can have each nation sending their representation, that’s why we will combine players from several countries, to make 7 powerful regional teams.
TEAMS: Russia + Former Soviet States + Asia (beside Korea and China) - captain: Dewalt + Show Spoiler +
SCHEDULE for PLAYDAYS: Round 1: Roster on: 20.07 - deadline 28.07 Round 2: Roster on: 27.07 - deadline 04.08 Round 3: Roster on: 03.08 - deadline 11.08 Round 4: Roster on: 10.08 - deadline 18.08 Round 5: Roster on: 17.08 - deadline 25.08 Round 6: Roster on: 24.08 - deadline 01.09 Time for both: 20:00 CEST
FORMAT: - each team needs to declare their rosters before event starts, minimum 7 players, maximum 21 - teams can be updated, but with minimum 1 week heads up before playing - 4x 1v1, 1x 2v2 - one player can play one time 1v1 and two times 2v2 (if didn’t play 1v1) - each match is best-of-one - both winners and losers needs to send replays to their team captains - maps will be pre-set each week, captains send their rosters by declaring play on particular map - player can be replaced, but the race can’t change (fe. if Bonyth is replaced, ZZZero needs to play Protoss) - each player needs to join BSL Discord and captains needs to add them to the team on discord ( fyi captains: You need to do it by assembling players to the role of your ‘nation’ - you should have this permission now on BSL Discord (please don’t abuse it))
MAP POOL: - Monty Hall - Minstrel - KICK BACK - Sparkle - Retro 1.2 (2v2)
PRIZEPOOL: Our goal is to reach a $1250 prize pool. If the goal is reached and next seasons are more realistic, then we will open division b in Season 2. - Matcherino link
Split: - 40% - 30% - 20% - 10%
NW GLADIATORS Tour: - Top 12 players with most points (win 3, lose 1) qualifies to the DE bracket tournament (one day) (TOP 4 R2, TOP 5-12 R1) - Matcherino link
BROADCAST - I will cast the event myself on my channel each Friday, Saturday and Sunday evening europe time (20:00 CEST). - Please contact me if you are interested in casting it in English - Event is open to broadcast for everyone, but you need to sign up for it first to receive cleanfeed info, required graphics and links to use (PM on discord to ZZZero).
BSL is alive only thanks to the support from the community. Feel free to join the BSL Patreon if you like our efforts to keep the scene active. You can check all the Patreons HERE <3
After many years, finally I see a nice map pool from BSL. I love the league and players but bad maps made me despond when I want to looking for fun, relax, eager...
On July 08 2024 09:06 SCRVN wrote: After many years, finally I see a nice map pool from BSL. I love the league and players but bad maps made me despond when I want to looking for fun, relax, eager...
Get a Vietnam team going and join. It d be great to have you compete in nation wars on maps you like. NW is actually great for the opportunity to discover countries and players we may not be familiar with. The more the merrier (assuming the deadline isnt already over)
top 3 advances to playoffs where 2nd and 3rd play a match and then the winner plays 1st who waits in the final, or it's just league that ends after 6 weeks of play?
Get a Vietnam team going and join. It d be great to have you compete in nation wars on maps you like. NW is actually great for the opportunity to discover countries and players we may not be familiar with. The more the merrier (assuming the deadline isnt already over)
Vietnamese players just like standard marco maps. They love 2 maps Polypoid and Radeon which I hate.
It will have PvP on Sparkle so much. This is time players find a way to beat Protoss from Terran, Zerg with nice/surprise build. You only see this thing on weird/"unbalance" maps.
On July 10 2024 10:49 ThunderJunk wrote: I just donated $1250. GLHF.
Hi well i think so you donated to ZZZero directly, not for the nation wars. at least, there are no donations on matcherino
I used the matcherino link in the description - but yes I think it went directly to ZZZero.
Yes, I recieved the funds, thank you so much! That can put another cool event on the map during the year! Let's go Nation Wars! Having $1250 prizepool is huge! You are the NW Hero!
On July 10 2024 10:49 ThunderJunk wrote: I just donated $1250. GLHF.
Hi well i think so you donated to ZZZero directly, not for the nation wars. at least, there are no donations on matcherino
I used the matcherino link in the description - but yes I think it went directly to ZZZero.
Yes, I recieved the funds, thank you so much! That can put another cool event on the map during the year! Let's go Nation Wars! Having $1250 prizepool is huge! You are the NW Hero!
Just please don't change the map pool. Let them complain. I want to hear them grovel in vain. Then I want to see them demonstrate superiority on a map pool that purposely has Sparkle in it.
On July 10 2024 10:49 ThunderJunk wrote: I just donated $1250. GLHF.
Hi well i think so you donated to ZZZero directly, not for the nation wars. at least, there are no donations on matcherino
I used the matcherino link in the description - but yes I think it went directly to ZZZero.
Yes, I recieved the funds, thank you so much! That can put another cool event on the map during the year! Let's go Nation Wars! Having $1250 prizepool is huge! You are the NW Hero!
Just please don't change the map pool. Let them complain. I want to hear them grovel in vain. Then I want to see them demonstrate superiority on a map pool that purposely has Sparkle in it.
On July 10 2024 10:49 ThunderJunk wrote: I just donated $1250. GLHF.
Hi well i think so you donated to ZZZero directly, not for the nation wars. at least, there are no donations on matcherino
I used the matcherino link in the description - but yes I think it went directly to ZZZero.
Yes, I recieved the funds, thank you so much! That can put another cool event on the map during the year! Let's go Nation Wars! Having $1250 prizepool is huge! You are the NW Hero!
Just please don't change the map pool. Let them complain. I want to hear them grovel in vain. Then I want to see them demonstrate superiority on a map pool that purposely has Sparkle in it.
Did you ever make homeless people fight to death over like a 100$ bill?
On July 14 2024 00:58 WGT-Baal wrote: Any news on the missing rosters? Particularly interested in Poland (always a favourite), and EU
current roster for Rest of Europe: izu, Sziky, Alm, OyA, WorsT, Oystein, Kakan, MadiNho, wave, OctZerg However, a lot of "I won't be able to play much" responses in that, due to holidays and activity.
On July 14 2024 00:58 WGT-Baal wrote: Any news on the missing rosters? Particularly interested in Poland (always a favourite), and EU
current roster for Rest of Europe: izu, Sziky, Alm, OyA, WorsT, Oystein, Kakan, MadiNho, wave, OctZerg However, a lot of "I won't be able to play much" responses in that, due to holidays and activity.
Yeah not surprised given it s middle of summer but a nice list nonetheless
On July 14 2024 15:28 Shinokuki wrote: What's zzzero's obsession with bad maps?
Funny thing is that maps are the most important thing to me in each tournament, and I care about picking them a lot every season. I allow myself for some wierd choices in some extra events (like here we have 1 map = sparkle) - but beside that here every map is from next season of ASL.
Anyway, I got some feedback from the captains, so we are working on some changes to make the players satisfied enough to keep them motivated to practice.
The only period of the year with weekends non-reserved for other events. Also the format allows players to play their matches whenever they want, so its most flexible event, seemed the best for the holidays time
Does it justify to pick the worst maps from a pool to your event ?
Picking Retro for 2v2 too ?
Progamers are complaining heavily about the new SSL MP. And u just double down on your Mp and added sparkle too. Congrats.
Monty Hall - Minstrel - KICK BACK - Sparkle - Retro 1.2 (2v2)
imagine this MP compared to yours. Dominator KICK BACK Pantheon Dark origin Retro 2v2
Wow who could have guess you could make a decent MP for your tourney. Crazy shit right ? lol
Looking forward to ESL's (Eonzerg StarLeague) map pool that everybody will agree on and will like without any complaints, because it's the most well thought out and perfected map pool in the Starcraft universe. Please share the link for us foolish people with bad taste in bw maps once it materialises!
Does it justify to pick the worst maps from a pool to your event ?
Picking Retro for 2v2 too ?
Progamers are complaining heavily about the new SSL MP. And u just double down on your Mp and added sparkle too. Congrats.
Monty Hall - Minstrel - KICK BACK - Sparkle - Retro 1.2 (2v2)
imagine this MP compared to yours. Dominator KICK BACK Pantheon Dark origin Retro 2v2
Wow who could have guess you could make a decent MP for your tourney. Crazy shit right ? lol
I think your map pool would be cool as well. The map pool has been updated, as I got feedback from the captains. You can check it out here: Bombastic StarLeague/Nation Wars (first 3 weeks are correct) Also when I drawed the maps for each round I used the rule "no monty hall and sparkle at the same round".
Does it justify to pick the worst maps from a pool to your event ?
Picking Retro for 2v2 too ?
Progamers are complaining heavily about the new SSL MP. And u just double down on your Mp and added sparkle too. Congrats.
Monty Hall - Minstrel - KICK BACK - Sparkle - Retro 1.2 (2v2)
imagine this MP compared to yours. Dominator KICK BACK Pantheon Dark origin Retro 2v2
Wow who could have guess you could make a decent MP for your tourney. Crazy shit right ? lol
Looking forward to ESL's (Eonzerg StarLeague) map pool that everybody will agree on and will like without any complaints, because it's the most well thought out and perfected map pool in the Starcraft universe. Please share the link for us foolish people with bad taste in bw maps once it materialises!
No gonna lie this shit coming from you hurt. U always been in my good graces Wallace.
I think your map pool would be cool as well. The map pool has been updated, as I got feedback from the captains. You can check it out here: Bombastic StarLeague/Nation Wars (first 3 weeks are correct) Also when I drawed the maps for each round I used the rule "no monty hall and sparkle at the same round".
I'm heavily inclined to think that people who are positive about this map pool and/or also liked the map candidates from the SSL map pool simply lack the ability to evaluate them.
I'd think that, say, if you were able to hit A rank on ladder at least once, you'll be very likely to not like these maps... not trying to be elitist or anything, I don't see any other option.
If you fit this criteria (positive about the maps, hit A rank at least once), please explain your reasoning.
I think you hit A rank on ladder at least once. Please, why you hate or don't like this map pool and/or also liked the map candidates from the SSL map pool?
I am D rank from more 1.000 games at this season now (I always take B rank at all seasons, no except this one). So I can't explain for you.
But I am really sure you don't understand some words: watch, enjoy, play, interesting, surprising, hoping and amazing!
On July 29 2024 01:14 Kraekkling wrote: I'm heavily inclined to think that people who are positive about this map pool and/or also liked the map candidates from the SSL map pool simply lack the ability to evaluate them.
I'd think that, say, if you were able to hit A rank on ladder at least once, you'll be very likely to not like these maps... not trying to be elitist or anything, I don't see any other option.
If you fit this criteria (positive about the maps, hit A rank at least once), please explain your reasoning.
I've hit A rank probably around 50 times in every season where i had it as a goal. No map pool has ever got in the way of me getting there. I usually end up disliking 1-2 maps for a particular match up that might lead me to ban them. Even if i don't ban them i'd still get there comfortably. On the other hand, lack of activity, games and motivation is when i end up playing a few games and stay at B rank. That is why i find it hard to believe a map pool can be all bad, but to each their own.
On July 29 2024 01:29 SCRVN wrote: @Kraekkling I think you hit A rank on ladder at least once. Please, why you hate or don't like this map pool and/or also liked the map candidates from the SSL map pool?
Seems like I should have picked my words better but whatever. I'll try to answer in good faith.
This game is played for over 20 years which is quite marvelous in itself. Just as marvelous is the fact, that some sort of balance between the races exists. This is in parts due to great game design, but not only. Over the course of 20 years, we learned a LOT about how the game can be played and how matchups can be balanced with specific features of the maps that we use.
Think about how the amount of available resources is fixed. Why don't we see maps with BGH-like economy? Why don't we have 3 gas in the main? Somehow, we figured out that 9+/-1 patches per base works pretty well. By now, we know that big deviations from this will result in games where one race will be inherently advantaged over another.
The same is true for a lot of recurring features of modern maps. They are recurring because we identified them as necessary or useful for the possibilty of a balanced and dynamic game.
My main point is: by using maps that liberally disregard the recurring features of modern macro maps, we end up with games and tournament results which are largely determined not by player skill, but by maps.
But I am really sure you don't understand some words: watch, enjoy, play, interesting, surprising, hoping and amazing!
I very much do and I hope for the resulting games to be exactly these things. Its just that the context from which we evaluate these things is so different.
As a serious question, how would you feel if the games were played on crazy critters + Show Spoiler +
EPT
Russia + Former Soviet States + Asia (beside Korea and China) - captain: 
Dewalt
TTF
Darkysh|
Poland captain: 
Peru captain: 
USA captain: 
JIRAIYA
Canada captain: 
Rest of Europe captain: 
LML
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