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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1899 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-07 01:13:55
February 07 2024 01:13 GMT
#21
awesome! keep the changes coming to the map pool semi-frequently. rare blizz/microsoft W

i kind of like being surprised like this.
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FriedrichNietzsche
Profile Joined January 2024
92 Posts
February 07 2024 06:59 GMT
#22
The only thing I really dont get - how is Fighting Spirit still in there. Like Polypoid or Vermeer is "the new" Fighting Spirit.

It is a bit like Luna, Circuit Breaker or Phyton being "the map" during a certain time period.

But it really feels like Fighting Spirit is so much past its prime.. For me personally (I veto it 99% of the time) it feels almost as weird as if Pyhton or Lost Temple would be in the ladder map pool.

Other than that.. as long as Vermeer or Polypoid are in the pool we have "iconic" maps.. I think we are good in that lane..
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
February 07 2024 20:13 GMT
#23
Glad they made some changes but wished they had ditched fighting spirit and left polypoid in!
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-08 00:13:13
February 08 2024 00:11 GMT
#24
So why don't you ban Fighting Spirit, that's the only map I had banned last season

FS 1.3 is just a map, but this map is the most unfair map I've ever seen.

Look at the picture, you see: if you are at 11 o'clock, you can't take your 3rd base at num1, it's so near your enemy, so hard to defend. You have to take it at num2, but it's so far to defend again, it's important you have no a narrow path to come num2. Regardless you choose num1 or num2, you still fall to bad condition to your enemy.

Contradictory, you are at 1 o'clock, you are so easy to take your 3rd base at num3, it's safe, near and comfortable for move. This map just fair and balance when 2 players at cross each other. If not, one of player will win before buying the first worker.

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FriedrichNietzsche
Profile Joined January 2024
92 Posts
February 08 2024 00:25 GMT
#25
FS is horrible and should be no longer in the ladder pool.. same like python Luna or LT rofl
FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1048 Posts
February 08 2024 15:28 GMT
#26
On February 08 2024 09:25 FriedrichNietzsche wrote:
FS is horrible and should be no longer in the ladder pool.. same like python Luna or LT rofl


Sounds like someone wasn't able to deal with adhoc creativity when lings run through their main since they are unable to full wall off with eggs.

Reactionary play > cookie cutter cuck style.
End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada76 Posts
February 08 2024 17:34 GMT
#27
FS is meant for new players rank C and below. It's a good map to learn builds. All the Korean pro use this map to teach new players.
Dunno why ppl cry for FS in ladder map when you can vote it out.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6830 Posts
February 08 2024 21:43 GMT
#28
Fighting Spirit is one of the greatest maps in SC history. Way to advanced for his time when it was released. Simple but great design. The units flow very well ( apart from vortex bugs in ramps.) Yeah it gets boring to play it over and over but considering there are 9 maps on ladder is not even a big deal anymore. If im honest most of the games i played on FS last year were enjoyable.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10354 Posts
February 08 2024 23:03 GMT
#29
Metas evolve and maps get figured out. Current map design is making better versions of Fighting Spirit, but you can deny that Fighting Spirit's "easier/safer" 3rd base and defensible natural style was a huge turning point in map making and a feature that practically every map these days emulates in some way. If you don't like FS, just ban it. I personally ban it since I find it boring.
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FriedrichNietzsche
Profile Joined January 2024
92 Posts
February 09 2024 07:25 GMT
#30
Yeah. Agreed FS was THE defining map. As was LT early on as was Luna for a time as was Python for a time as was Polypoid and Vermeer..

But it didnt age particular well. Im vetoing it 99% of the time. But if e.g. Polypoid isnt in the pool and FS is something about that just irks me..
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-09 08:55:01
February 09 2024 08:54 GMT
#31
Python was popular for a few years, as used to be Luna, and LT.
Playing FS for 15+ years is boring AF ;x

My single and most consistently vetoed map since SC:R got released.
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