Linux -> Wine -> SC/BW = SWEET - Page 2

Sirakor

Great Britain455 Posts

October 25 2007 19:42 GMT

#21

@CoralReefer thanks for the correction, I changed it in my post above.

I also updated the post with some info about my xorg.conf, let us know if it helped one of you. Most notably you should try things with and without dri.

Replays I havent checked yet, but I will post back with my experiences.

Otherwise, I hope the above is helpful for someone - and if someone finds other solutions or corrections to the above please let us know.

mjh

United States133 Posts

May 21 2008 03:05 GMT

#22

i just got it working on wine 0.9.59 (ubuntu 8.04). excellent guide thanks a bunch.

by the way - bwchart also works too. just had to run winetricks and install vcrun6.

PriitM

Algeria181 Posts

May 21 2008 08:41 GMT

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Germany1235 Posts

May 21 2008 09:02 GMT

#24

BW runs flawlessly under Wine or Cedega.

Some comments on that "mini howto" Sirakor posted:

- Why do you write that 3D accel is needed? It's not. I used the "radeon" driver for a while (open source 2D only driver for ATI cards), so nothing with DRI etc., and it still works. Of course, because SC doesn't require 3D acceleration at all.

- I also never needed to start an X server specifically with 8 or 16bit color depth. 24 (= 32) is fine. There should be no need to change anything.

- The FontPath settings in xorg.conf are mostly irrelevant these days thanks to FreeType, which Wine also uses.

- Creating an image from the CD is not necessary anymore (since patch 1.15.2)

distant_voice

Germany2521 Posts

May 21 2008 09:05 GMT

#25

how much does Wine slow games like Half Life 2 or Bioshock down? Can I expect similar FPS as in Windows?

and if not, will that ever be possible?

Sirakor

Great Britain455 Posts

May 21 2008 09:42 GMT

#26

@0xDEADBEEF: you are correct that StarCraft does not need 3D acceleration. I did find however, that open source drivers (especially the nvidia one), can slow down the system on a whole (or X, rather) significantly. Now whilst it isnt directly linked to 3D accel, having working 3D acceleration means that you have your graphics card set up correctly, and that you will get the best speeds out of it, thus not slowing you down. I don't have an ATI card, so it may be different. Re the other pieces, again it's probably not necessary in all cases, but it did seem to help with my (rather old) hardware configuration, so I thought I'd put it here in case someone else also runs into problems with a standard setup.

Also thanks for the note regarding the CD image, I will edit it in the 'mini howto'.

Another side note: The ICCUP Launcher also works under Wine, just be sure to turn of the version check. Also, you may need to install the Gecko engine to be able to see the news (this is if it complains that you need to install IE).

@distant_voice: I don't have personal experience with these two games, but I have some friends who are happily playing Half Life 2 under Wine so that seems to work at least ok. It's also listed on the Platinum Top 10 List over at WineHQ AppDB, so this one is definitely worth a try. You may also find some answers to your questions in the comments of the AppDB.

Beamo

France1279 Posts

May 21 2008 10:05 GMT

#27

I've installed Starcraft-Broodwar on a Ubuntu 8.04 using PlayonLinux and Wine.

It works well for watching replays but I can't get on battlenet (have upgraded to 1.15.2). - Battle net is unable to recognise you game version.

And some keys don't work properly.
I can't do ctl + click to select all same units of a kind.
I can't select untits then shift + select units to add them to the group. (that one is really needed to play correctly)
Am I the only one to get these problems ?

Sirakor

Great Britain455 Posts

May 21 2008 11:36 GMT

#28

Beamo - for the upgrade to 1.15.2, did you upgrade manually, ie. did you download the patch from http://www.battle.net and run it with wine? Updating from within SC/BW may not work correctly, so in case you haven't already done so, you might want to reinstall SC, not connect to bnet, and patch manually. Let us know if it worked.

Regarding the ctrl/shift keys not working, I never had this problem, but I vaguely remember reading something about it, I will try to dig it up if I can.

Beamo

France1279 Posts

May 21 2008 11:55 GMT

#29

I patched it manually getting the patch from http://www.battle.net

Sirakor

Great Britain455 Posts

May 21 2008 13:51 GMT

#30

Maybe try to uninstall SC completely, and reinstall it again, paying close attention to do things in order (install SC with wine, then install BW with wine, then install the 1.15.2 patch for brood war with wine; make sure you don't use the patch for vanilla SC).

Re the shift/ctrl problem, I read another post over at WineHQ of another user who had the same problem on Ubuntu and Wine 0.9.59. He managed to fix it by upgrading Wine to 0.9.60. While you're at it, Wine 1.0-rc1 is out, and should be in the Ubuntu repos by now, so upgrade to this if you can.

Hope this helps ...

Beamo

France1279 Posts

May 21 2008 14:32 GMT

#31

I'll try it out as soon as I have a second.

Thx

Beamo

France1279 Posts

May 21 2008 15:26 GMT

#32

Oki going to Wine 1.0 rc-1 got rid of the shift and ctl not working problem !

Still can't get on B.net (now starcraft crashes instead of having an error) but I'll try a re-install soon.

Also have an other keyboard problem. I can name my units but can't call them back. I'm on a french keyboard so normally I can call them back using shift + number or just number if capslock is enabled. Here none work, I can only use alt + number (which kind of sucks

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But I'll check the wine forums for that one.

PriitM

Algeria181 Posts

May 23 2008 06:56 GMT

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Germany1235 Posts

May 23 2008 07:48 GMT

#34

On May 21 2008 18:05 distant_voice wrote:
how much does Wine slow games like Half Life 2 or Bioshock down? Can I expect similar FPS as in Windows?

and if not, will that ever be possible?

As mentioned, you should always check the Wine AppDB. Anything with gold or platinum rating will probably run flawlessly.
FPS loss should generally be minimal, because Wine is not a real emulator, but merely an API wrapper/compatibility layer.

In the case of Bioshock, you should probably use the DirectX 9 version of the game, because DX10 support in Wine is still basically non-existant: http://www.winehq.org/site/status_directx

I should probably mention Cedega here, a commercial version of Wine designed to run newer/popular games. Wine can also run a lot of games well, and has improved a lot there over the past years, but DirectX in particular has never been a top priority for Wine, maybe Cedega is better in that regard.

For games which you only play sporadically (for example, single player games) I'd still recommend using a secondary Windows partition just for gaming. It's much less of a hassle and Windows games are guaranteed to work there (d'oh). I'd only use Wine/Cedega for games which you play more often (e.g. multiplayer games) so that rebooting all the time would be a pain in the ass.
Using Linux primarily and having to reboot to Windows to play games may also cure gaming addiction. :D Something MMORPG players might want to think about...

Lastly, it should be mentioned that a (very) few game developers are actually nice and provide a real Linux version of their game (often there's a "Linux client" available for download a while after the game was released). So this is always worth checking out.
Games by id Software are very good in that regard, you can be sure about a Linux and MacOSX port there. The Unreal games also always seem to have one. Most developers don't care though, because ~90% of the market are ~~retards~~ Windows users.

coltrane

Chile988 Posts

June 16 2008 22:31 GMT

#35

Hi, havent read it all yet, cause i solved it just since 1.15.2 was released. Anyway, i cant get into bnet, wine and so starcraft crashes. Can anyone connect bnet under linux? that would be really nice!

Nice guide, anyway

Just for you to know, actually i just run my windows installed SC under wine, then with some changes in wine conf file and in xorg.conf everything is just like it should be.
all in debian etch.

mjh

United States133 Posts

June 17 2008 05:30 GMT

#36

i'm on ubuntu but bnet worked for me with two fixes: installing some default font package (don't remember what it was, it's easy to search for though), and turning off the wine windows manager thing in the config. bnet will look ugly as hell but it should work.

.Ix

Philippines266 Posts

January 22 2009 15:11 GMT

#37

Sorry about the mad bump, but is it possible to run chaoslauncher + cpu savior under wine?

I play on a pretty old laptop and it overheats and shuts itself off within an hour without cpu savior.

renegade_zerg

Korea (South)525 Posts

January 22 2009 15:31 GMT

#38

pm masterofchaos, r1ch, or try posting in the chaos launcher thread because they check that often.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=65196

.Ix

Philippines266 Posts

January 22 2009 15:38 GMT

#39

oh, I thought that I should ask here since it was a wine issue and not a chaoslauncher one. Guess not. Thanks!

Ido

Germany661 Posts

October 11 2010 01:13 GMT

#40

black and crappy battle.net windows - there is a patch available.
here you go (ubuntu) - delete wine and install this one:
https://launchpad.net/~kendatsuba/ archive/starcraft
if you dont use ubuntu, here is a patchfile for wine-1.2-rc6 source:
http://bugs2.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=29467

with this and the tweaks posted on the first page its perfect.
thought it was worth bumping - the patch was big news for me!

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