Does FlaSh owe his success to picking Terran? - Page 5

TMNT

2808 Posts

May 29 2023 14:55 GMT

#81

On May 29 2023 23:44 Nirli wrote:
First rule of Brood War club: TMNT is never wrong.
Second rule of Brood War club: see 1 above.

A dead and inferior game like SC2 is getting tens of K dollars of tournaments, while we, the BW plebs, are wasting precious KBs of the Internet on these discussions.

Koreans are pouring tens of K into BW on a daily basis. I personally also donate too.

And the SC2 foreign "plebs" are also having these exact same kinds of discussion every day.

What's your point, troll?

Nirli

Bulgaria372 Posts

May 29 2023 15:01 GMT

#82

On May 29 2023 23:55 TMNT wrote:

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Just sharing my opinion on the matter, turtle.

Won't participate in the current and the other discussion, as I'm a biased Flash fanboy.

TMNT

2808 Posts

May 29 2023 15:05 GMT

#83

You sure probably are, I guess that's why you don't like players like Snow who abuse Reavers to beat Terrans.

Peace out.

Peeano

Netherlands5091 Posts

May 29 2023 15:37 GMT

#84

Skill can overcome imba or Tesagi (applies to both the Korean and Foreigner scene). JyJ winning ASL was a joke, but wasn't JyJ's nor Afreeca's fault. Maps balance the game. What is meta is determined through maps and innovation and tons of games. I'm of the opinion if T>Z>P>T doesn't hold true, the current map pool is to blame or innovation didn't happen yet. Up to a -4% match up favor is significant but can still be overcome by skill.

If we stay stuck on current maps with X minerals/gas, Y choke width, Z rush distance BW will go stale. It's good ASL forces new maps - even if they're too much - otherwise we'd still be stuck on FS and CB like how the foreigner scene was forever stuck on Tau Cross and Longinus simply because they had produced a few memorable games.

Just like life BW needs ups and downs for all races.BW would be more boring if it was actually T = Z = P, we wouldn't have threads like this.

Finally: Flash is the undisputed goat even in his absence and helped popularize the storm drop on scvs meta.

Shinokuki

United States876 Posts

May 29 2023 17:04 GMT

#85

On May 30 2023 00:01 Nirli wrote:

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Just sharing my opinion on the matter, turtle.

Won't participate in the current and the other discussion, as I'm a biased Flash fanboy.

BTW the money that is flowing in BW is so much more than the money flowing in SC2. It's not even a comparison. It's like comparing NBA to WNBA

Malongo

Chile3472 Posts

May 29 2023 19:55 GMT

#86

On May 29 2023 19:08 Magic Powers wrote:
The protoss meta provably stagnated in the early 2000's. If you think it didn't, you weren't paying attention to the changes that came with Bisu and Stork. Around that time terran players started to complain that carriers were completely broken, and Stork only helped that perception. Bisu single-handedly saved PvZ. Without him, there would be no question about balance, it would be clear to everyone that PvZ is unplayable.
No offense, but it seems to me like you don't know what you're talking about.

The one that seems completely off is you buddy. ¨People like Stork and Bisu making improvements don't imply others were doing the same thing over and over lol. You clearly have zero idea of how P bw was played pre 2006, Reach and Nal_ra were literally throwing the kitchen sink over Zergs and Terran in terms of different BOs trying to keep up with ridiculous maps. Bisu is great at PvZ but your basically implying nobody could win before and everyone could win after him which is simply nonsense. Same goes with Stork's 4G+2S build, it was great until Terrans realized they needed to push before Carriers and even then, there were very few other protoss playing that build. Go watch Reach's UZOO, Anytime's SO1 run or Ra's Pringles.

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