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[ASL15] Ro24 Preview: Welcome Back!

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RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-28 21:48:02
February 28 2023 21:23 GMT
#8
Being in K or Major league is not necessarily about skill level but about how much funding someone on is able to contribute from Balloons on average. Being in or not in is is no indicator of someone being in a good or bad form. Ruin was on a break from December until the Qualifiers. He's was in K-league quite often before that and your comment about him just ruining some chinese players' games is honestly a bit disrespectful.
Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom250 Posts
February 28 2023 22:44 GMT
#9
Didn't know about proleague. Sounds like a lot of games in missing.

Hype
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-28 23:10:42
February 28 2023 23:09 GMT
#10
On March 01 2023 06:23 RJBTV wrote:
Being in K or Major league is not necessarily about skill level but about how much funding someone on is able to contribute from Balloons on average. Being in or not in is is no indicator of someone being in a good or bad form. Ruin was on a break from December until the Qualifiers. He's was in K-league quite often before that and your comment about him just ruining some chinese players' games is honestly a bit disrespectful.

More often than not Major league has the better players, it would be silly to deny that. The be the best one needs to practice and fight with the best.

Ruin is the obvious tier 4 of his group whether you like it or not and the remark I made is a play on his name and his latest results on his LP. There is nothing disrespectful about it unless you're a snowflake.
FBH #1!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2844 Posts
March 01 2023 00:55 GMT
#11
Sweet write up and graphics!

Super hyped for group B and D.
aka wilted_kale
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada407 Posts
March 02 2023 03:09 GMT
#12
my depression is gone! thanks ASL! we missed you.
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
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AncientSion
Profile Joined April 2017
72 Posts
March 02 2023 11:26 GMT
#13
ASL and BSL, best time of the year.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1433 Posts
March 02 2023 14:40 GMT
#14
Y the protoss image? Die protoss! And let's have some great ZvTs
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
314 Posts
March 03 2023 01:34 GMT
#15
On March 02 2023 23:40 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Y the protoss image? Die protoss! And let's have some great ZvTs


:'(
pyorotemjin
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States95 Posts
March 09 2023 16:42 GMT
#16
any idea where I could find recent Stork vods from the two leagues mentioned in his writeup, Major Proleague or K League? would love to see some of his recent games, but haven't heard of either of these leagues and google isn't helping much
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-09 17:04:37
March 09 2023 17:03 GMT
#17
On March 10 2023 01:42 pyorotemjin wrote:
any idea where I could find recent Stork vods from the two leagues mentioned in his writeup, Major Proleague or K League? would love to see some of his recent games, but haven't heard of either of these leagues and google isn't helping much

The link to the thread is in the first alinea of Group A, just click "here".
You can also find it in the left side bar under Tourneys: [Megathread] Daily Proleagues

You will have to scroll through the thread. Every post starts with the VOD and the matches will be listed below, with following matches and also results inside spoilers which you can click to view.

Scroll the VOD with that info to find the Stork games.
FBH #1!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
March 09 2023 17:12 GMT
#18
To follow up the post above:

You dont need to scroll through though. The #1 post in the megathread has the index and you just need to Ctrl+F and type "Stork" to find the days he played and click on the link.

Keep in mind that not all K-League entries are updated there.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
March 13 2023 23:18 GMT
#19
On March 01 2023 05:33 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2023 01:56 QOGQOG wrote:
What exactly happened with Mind? He was doing pretty well, then dropped out of the scene. Military service, maybe? Seems like he's been gone longer than that though.

Ro24 in a week is great, it's the one part of the tournament that can drag a bit.

Maybe I've misunderstood your question, but he's literally in the Ro24 of the highest level tournament right now. So, ehm, he seems to be doing fine?

Belatedly: this is the first I've seen of him in like three years. I know he's looking good now, I'm just wondering where he's been, since he was out of things for longer than military would account for.
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
March 15 2023 12:27 GMT
#20
ASL RO16 GROUPS!
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Pretty hyped about them groups!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
March 15 2023 13:42 GMT
#21
Ugh I don’t want to be the old man yelling at clouds but they need a better system for group selection. Having Best, Snow, SK and Light in the same group is bogus. It weakens the competition for the ro8 onwards imo.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
March 15 2023 13:46 GMT
#22
Royal able to pick an easy group for him (only TvZ - his best match-up) and put the 3 players who are most likely to beat him in another group (Soulkey, Snow, Light), not to mention the other 2 (Mini, Soma) was out already. Perfect scenario for the current champion to retain his title.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
March 15 2023 14:15 GMT
#23
They should reseed the players for ro16.

Tier 1: top four seeds from last year
Tiers 2-4: they can use same seeding method as they do for ro24 which seemed pretty accurate.

Then a draft where Royal has first pick of player from each tier for his group (his advantage as the number 1 seed). 2 seed then picks, 3 seed etc.

Tiers would be something like
1: Royal, rush, Hero, Sk
2: Light, Bisu, Snow, Queen
3: Mind, JD, Action, Best
4: Shine, JYJ, Ssak, Barracks

Hypothetically, Royal picks Queen, JD, Shine for group A
Rush picks Bisu, Mind and Barracks for group B
Hero chooses Snow, Best, Ssak
SK is left with Light, Action, JYJ.

I think this gives us groups that are just as juicy but with a better distribution of talent for the ro8 onwards.

For example, if games went to seeding you’d have an ro8 with Royal, Queen, Rush, Bisu, Hero, Snow, Sk and Light which would be awesome.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2706 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-15 14:32:40
March 15 2023 14:32 GMT
#24
I agree that the current system gives too much power into the hands of the no.1 seed. Usually he'd be able to create an easy group for himself without even using the switching right, then he'd use that right to make a group of death for the players who are most likely to beat him.

This is the exact situation today, and last season as well. The season where Mini picked Light and used his right to help Shuttle was a rare case (and that was one of the best group nomination events)

However, if the system you proposed above were used, there would be no need for a nomination event anymore, because all the picks become too obvious that the players just need to inform ASL via a message and that's it. With group nomination, there is also entertainment value with all the banters, mind games etc. Having all the players there and talk to each other is fun as hell and gets the audience to know their personality too. I'd say that is worth more than avoiding some lopsided groups.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
March 16 2023 04:38 GMT
#25
Group C is insane, geez.
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria370 Posts
March 21 2023 06:17 GMT
#26
They're really killing the hype with the massive periods of time between the stages.
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
March 22 2023 08:12 GMT
#27
On February 28 2023 14:30 Original_TLer wrote:
Nice! Thanks for this.

From everyone's picks from their most confident to least, who would they be?

Mine would be:

Mini
Soma
Zero
Bisu
Best
Light
Snow
Shine
Sharp
Jaedong
JyJ


The knockout of those top two was really a spanner in the works
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
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