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RowdierBob

Australia12537 Posts

March 15 2023 13:42 GMT

#21

Ugh I don’t want to be the old man yelling at clouds but they need a better system for group selection. Having Best, Snow, SK and Light in the same group is bogus. It weakens the competition for the ro8 onwards imo.

TMNT

731 Posts

March 15 2023 13:46 GMT

#22

Royal able to pick an easy group for him (only TvZ - his best match-up) and put the 3 players who are most likely to beat him in another group (Soulkey, Snow, Light), not to mention the other 2 (Mini, Soma) was out already. Perfect scenario for the current champion to retain his title.

RowdierBob

Australia12537 Posts

March 15 2023 14:15 GMT

#23

They should reseed the players for ro16.

Tier 1: top four seeds from last year
Tiers 2-4: they can use same seeding method as they do for ro24 which seemed pretty accurate.

Then a draft where Royal has first pick of player from each tier for his group (his advantage as the number 1 seed). 2 seed then picks, 3 seed etc.

Tiers would be something like
1: Royal, rush, Hero, Sk
2: Light, Bisu, Snow, Queen
3: Mind, JD, Action, Best
4: Shine, JYJ, Ssak, Barracks

Hypothetically, Royal picks Queen, JD, Shine for group A
Rush picks Bisu, Mind and Barracks for group B
Hero chooses Snow, Best, Ssak
SK is left with Light, Action, JYJ.

I think this gives us groups that are just as juicy but with a better distribution of talent for the ro8 onwards.

For example, if games went to seeding you’d have an ro8 with Royal, Queen, Rush, Bisu, Hero, Snow, Sk and Light which would be awesome.

TMNT

731 Posts

March 15 2023 14:32 GMT

#24

I agree that the current system gives too much power into the hands of the no.1 seed. Usually he'd be able to create an easy group for himself without even using the switching right, then he'd use that right to make a group of death for the players who are most likely to beat him.

This is the exact situation today, and last season as well. The season where Mini picked Light and used his right to help Shuttle was a rare case (and that was one of the best group nomination events)

However, if the system you proposed above were used, there would be no need for a nomination event anymore, because all the picks become too obvious that the players just need to inform ASL via a message and that's it. With group nomination, there is also entertainment value with all the banters, mind games etc. Having all the players there and talk to each other is fun as hell and gets the audience to know their personality too. I'd say that is worth more than avoiding some lopsided groups.

Lazyer

United States218 Posts

March 16 2023 04:38 GMT

#25

Group C is insane, geez.

Nirli

Bulgaria27 Posts

March 21 2023 06:17 GMT

#26

They're really killing the hype with the massive periods of time between the stages.

Jragon

Australia1470 Posts

March 22 2023 08:12 GMT

#27

On February 28 2023 14:30 Original_TLer wrote:
Nice! Thanks for this.

From everyone's picks from their most confident to least, who would they be?

Mine would be:

Mini
Soma
Zero
Bisu
Best
Light
Snow
Shine
Sharp
Jaedong
JyJ

The knockout of those top two was really a spanner in the works

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