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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
Old maps that are brought back: Polaris Rhapsody Fighting Spirit Eclipse Polypoid New maps: (4) Ultimate Stream - by Yang Chang Mok (Waldstein) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/mB50hbW.jpg) Download link: https://910map.tistory.com/85?category=946321 (At the bottom) (3) Ascension - by Joo Hyeon Seo (LatiAs) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/tLsEjBy.jpg) Download link: https://910map.tistory.com/82?category=946321 (at the bottom) (4) Hidden Track - by Kim Eung Seo (Earthattack) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/AZ89VYo.jpg) Download link: https://910map.tistory.com/84?category=946321 (at the bottom) | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
Effort vs Shuttle played on the ASL 11 map pool recently | ||
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
Edit: can we put the authors next to their respective maps too?  | ||
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LeeDawg
United States1306 Posts
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oxKnu
1240 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On March 27 2021 00:23 JungleTerrain wrote: Big fan of ascension, the other two look a bit tight in some areas and I feel like it will be a hassle moving around on hidden track. Let’s see how they play out. Edit: can we put the authors next to their respective maps too? sure thing | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
Unsure how hidden track was chosen since it had several games TvsP in the map test tournaments that seemed broken... | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
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ox.tQ
797 Posts
Latias is notable for Neo-Sylphid and Eclipse Earthattack made Optimizer and many other maps like Destination and Blue Storm | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4228 Posts
especially the use of FS.. I mean.. Just let it die, please. Only maps I like this season are Polaris Rhapsody and Eclipse | ||
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TMNT
3102 Posts
Hidden Track being selected is such a travesty. I've seen games where Protoss leads by 60 supply and can do fuck all but waiting for Terran to max out, take the center base and crush them. I genuinely believe top foreigner Terran can beat the likes of Bisu and Snow on this map. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
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RWLabs
Korea (South)273 Posts
Stork did an analysis on these maps. I'll summarize briefly: Ascension: - It's a 9/8 (9 minerals in main 8 minerals in the natural) map, which favours Protoss - The natural's sim city is tight and easy to defend - If you get pressured by tanks or lurkers it's impossible to break out - The third mineral multi requires like 7-8 pylons to block off vulture harass, but the one closer to the center is ok - All the expansions are targetable from the high ground, so it's difficult to maintain expansions against any race - A decent carrier map - Overall: Stork believes the map is not bad for Protoss - EDIT: Apparently Flash said that on Ascension he can beat anyone while he plays Protoss Hidden Track: - The 5 o'clock and 11 o'clock spawns are GREAT to lay cannons down against Zerg with plenty of space left over - In contrast the 1 o'clock base has very little space for cannons, making it weak against hydra busts, the mapmaker should consider a patch - The 3rd has 8 minerals, which is great for Protoss - The 3rd bases are not balanced in terms of space behind the minerals (3 pylons worth vs 1 pylon worth of distance). This should be patched - In general 3rd and starting bases are difficult to defend due to the convoluted path, for all races - Taking the other starting expansion means the 3rd is automatically defended - Overall: difficult to say which race is favoured yet, but lots of early game-ending aggression expected (personally I'm expecting Protoss blood here) Ultimate Stream: - At all the bases but the 4 o'clock one, the sim city is very easy as you can build a cannon to cover the Norad - Stork thinks the Norad should be placed on the other side as units have to take too long of a route around. With Goons and mech units they're 100% sure to get stuck or lost - It's another 9/8 map, which is excellent for Protoss as mentioned before - It's a bit difficult to sim city the 3rd, but 500 minerals for a wall is fine for a 9/8 map - Terrans can't turret crawl in front of the starting, but the center is fine - There's quite some distance between the starting locations - Overall: Stork believes this map is great for Protoss - Fun factoid: apparently the blue maps are good for Protoss, like Ringing Bloom, Medusa, Overwatch, Ride of Valkyries, Sparkle, Gladiator (at the time), etc. | ||
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
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sntct
100 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
Ascension like a 3 player Blue Storm (plays very different, but just vaguely reminiscient). Swap Fighting Spirit for Lost Temple. Some part of me really wants to see a droppable natural come back, bring back turbo newbie drops. Wish we had a constant stream of proleague still to put maps through their paces, sometimes these maps only see a very small amount of play. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On March 27 2021 10:26 JungleTerrain wrote: The norad? What is he talking about here? ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/WHeBGrp.jpg) there was a neutral norad at the naturals for wall-ins anyway that's the older version i believe, now its using lurker eggs ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/COp7Hcm.jpg) | ||
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superjoppe
Sweden3685 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5708 Posts
On March 27 2021 21:04 superjoppe wrote: Great maps for P, which is great since P has been in a slump for years. Basically, all P is winning is vs Artosis. You didn't see his recent games. He's styling on the Protoss players with nukes.  | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On March 27 2021 10:26 JungleTerrain wrote: The norad? What is he talking about here? Old map version… | ||
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Optimate
249 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
On March 28 2021 01:53 Optimate wrote: Doesn’t Ultimate Streams look like Central Plains? I’m no pro but isn’t it gonna be a Protoss favored carrier map? Central Plains was protoss favoured because there was literally nothing in the middle of the map, it was a huge open space and it was super easy for protoss to expand as nobody could ever really attack them/stop them. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On March 28 2021 01:53 Optimate wrote: Doesn’t Ultimate Streams look like Central Plains? I’m no pro but isn’t it gonna be a Protoss favored carrier map? Doesn't look anything like Central Plains. If anything it is a more standardized and modernized Katrina. That still probably makes it a good Carrier map though. But it might also be an even better Tank map. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On March 28 2021 03:28 Qikz wrote: Central Plains was protoss favoured because there was literally nothing in the middle of the map, it was a huge open space and it was super easy for protoss to expand as nobody could ever really attack them/stop them. And it was hard for Terran to move reinforcements around through over long distances through all those tight ramp chokes to react to Recalls (or Carriers, I guess). | ||
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andertalets77
143 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On April 20 2021 20:42 andertalets77 wrote: What map will first ro16? first map will be polypoid, followed by a map ban by each of the players, and other 4 maps being played out for rest of the series | ||
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