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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
July 12 2021 10:28 GMT
#261
Not SB related but I'm asking here cause I think you guys know better. Any fucking idea why I can't chat someone after game on Remastered? Whenever I wanna type someone I lost on ladder it says "User is not logged" which is clearly a lie. Is it really time to migrate to SB? This coding is ridicilously bad.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
July 12 2021 11:59 GMT
#262
tec this is more a personal request but do you have any ability to edit the actual in game overlays? Having the observer overlay on replays would make things a hell of a lot better for usability (i.e. unit bar in the bottom right and playback bar in the middle or something as it's always hidden).
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Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
July 12 2021 12:28 GMT
#263
On July 12 2021 19:28 outscar wrote:
Not SB related but I'm asking here cause I think you guys know better. Any fucking idea why I can't chat someone after game on Remastered? Whenever I wanna type someone I lost on ladder it says "User is not logged" which is clearly a lie. Is it really time to migrate to SB? This coding is ridicilously bad.

you can only write to people on the same server.
the ladder person was from a different server.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
July 12 2021 12:46 GMT
#264
On July 12 2021 21:28 Bakuryu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2021 19:28 outscar wrote:
Not SB related but I'm asking here cause I think you guys know better. Any fucking idea why I can't chat someone after game on Remastered? Whenever I wanna type someone I lost on ladder it says "User is not logged" which is clearly a lie. Is it really time to migrate to SB? This coding is ridicilously bad.

you can only write to people on the same server.
the ladder person was from a different server.


Makes sense. Is there a way to type him, let's say if I put server name after his name? F.e. Nickname-USWest something like that. This system is honestly garbage.
sunbeams are never made like me...
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-12 21:46:27
July 12 2021 21:45 GMT
#265
On July 12 2021 14:58 ox.tQ wrote:
tec27, be great if you could provide a stream graphic for me and other streamers to display during our broadcast events, as a way to further promote SB. Just an idea. If that's something you've already done or are interested in doing, please let me know. I'd need a 1920 1080 resolution graphic. Ideally, the graphic would contain all the useful bits of information about SB that you deem necessary to include. My discord is also oxtQ#7362

sure thing, I'll work on something!

On July 12 2021 20:59 Qikz wrote:
tec this is more a personal request but do you have any ability to edit the actual in game overlays? Having the observer overlay on replays would make things a hell of a lot better for usability (i.e. unit bar in the bottom right and playback bar in the middle or something as it's always hidden).

These sorts of things are definitely possible, but it's not necessarily a simple task at this point, and not really a high priority for us atm. So something like that could/probably will happen in the future, but no idea when.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
800 Posts
July 13 2021 19:48 GMT
#266
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tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
July 28 2021 00:38 GMT
#267


We're pretty close on observer mode as well, but it needs a few fixes that didn't quite make it in for this update. Should be out in the near future though!
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
August 14 2021 01:48 GMT
#268
As promised, here's the observer mode update

Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
August 14 2021 02:42 GMT
#269
On August 14 2021 10:48 tec27 wrote:
As promised, here's the observer mode update

https://twitter.com/ShieldBatteryBW/status/1426359370984525824


will you add an option for users to turn on/off the fog of war?
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
TeamThinkQuick
Profile Joined March 2021
200 Posts
August 14 2021 04:23 GMT
#270
Congrats!
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TeamThinkQuick
Profile Joined March 2021
200 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 04:54:57
August 14 2021 04:52 GMT
#271
I'd like to make a suggestion. Apologies if it comes off as unsolicited, silly and/or unimportant.

Basically it has to do with making the server more accessible and appealing to Latin Americans, given the great number of players (and fans/viewers) from that region of the world. It would help increase the player base of the server if that's something important. (I don't think people from outside of South America would complain about attracting them since one of the main contributions of the server is decreased latency between players from different regions?) In any event, if that seems like a reasonable thing to do, then perhaps a Spanish translated version of the site would help in this regard? Or promotional graphics (in Spanish) to raise awareness around SB, which some of the famous Spanish casters or streamers could help promote (such as Jan, Deathfate or popular players such as Terror and Dandy). Of course, a promotional graphic in English would be great too, especially if popular streamers who have substantial audiences like Artosis, Tasteless, Falcoln Paladin, BSL and others could use to help spread the word.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 22:49:47
August 14 2021 06:29 GMT
#272
the finish line (or starting tbh) is near, you're doing gods work boys, much appreciated <3

On August 14 2021 13:52 TeamThinkQuick wrote:
I'd like to make a suggestion. Apologies if it comes off as unsolicited, silly and/or unimportant.

Basically it has to do with making the server more accessible and appealing to Latin Americans, given the great number of players (and fans/viewers) from that region of the world. It would help increase the player base of the server if that's something important. (I don't think people from outside of South America would complain about attracting them since one of the main contributions of the server is decreased latency between players from different regions?) In any event, if that seems like a reasonable thing to do, then perhaps a Spanish translated version of the site would help in this regard? Or promotional graphics (in Spanish) to raise awareness around SB, which some of the famous Spanish casters or streamers could help promote (such as Jan, Deathfate or popular players such as Terror and Dandy). Of course, a promotional graphic in English would be great too, especially if popular streamers who have substantial audiences like Artosis, Tasteless, Falcoln Paladin, BSL and others could use to help spread the word.


On August 14 2021 11:42 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2021 10:48 tec27 wrote:
As promised, here's the observer mode update

https://twitter.com/ShieldBatteryBW/status/1426359370984525824


will you add an option for users to turn on/off the fog of war?


let's worry about about making the client operational and getting ranked matchmaking (team matchmaking is left which is a focal point, we need to retire poor redpepperflake from his AT/RT duties) going before thinking about luxury updates, there's only a handful of people working on this

that said, the fog of war suggestion is a good one because it's related to competitve play, they know about it
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Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland605 Posts
August 14 2021 07:39 GMT
#273
Good job, but there is one very important change to be made to attract many people to SB: static turn rate for custom games. Only because of it i'm not getting people to test out Shield Battery
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
August 14 2021 09:34 GMT
#274
On August 14 2021 13:52 TeamThinkQuick wrote:
I'd like to make a suggestion. Apologies if it comes off as unsolicited, silly and/or unimportant.

Basically it has to do with making the server more accessible and appealing to Latin Americans, given the great number of players (and fans/viewers) from that region of the world. It would help increase the player base of the server if that's something important. (I don't think people from outside of South America would complain about attracting them since one of the main contributions of the server is decreased latency between players from different regions?) In any event, if that seems like a reasonable thing to do, then perhaps a Spanish translated version of the site would help in this regard? Or promotional graphics (in Spanish) to raise awareness around SB, which some of the famous Spanish casters or streamers could help promote (such as Jan, Deathfate or popular players such as Terror and Dandy). Of course, a promotional graphic in English would be great too, especially if popular streamers who have substantial audiences like Artosis, Tasteless, Falcoln Paladin, BSL and others could use to help spread the word.

Definitely not silly or unimportant! Localized versions of the site/client are definitely something we want to add in the future (ideally with an easy way for community members to help contribute translations, since it's a lot of languages to potentially support), but this is probably a bit behind the other main things we're working on atm. In short, that's team matchmaking, improved netcode, and enough chat management capabilities for SB to be viable for tournaments to run on. After those things get in, though, we'll definitely be looking at how we can expand to other communities we're not currently reaching.

On August 14 2021 16:39 Bonyth wrote:
Good job, but there is one very important change to be made to attract many people to SB: static turn rate for custom games. Only because of it i'm not getting people to test out Shield Battery

We've been looking at improving the netcode more recently, and while we definitely *could* add static turn rate settings to custom games, I'm hesitant to put in the work to do so at this point in time. Firstly, because I think with a few changes we could make TR24 quite viable for a much larger part of the population. Secondly, we'd like to revamp how turnrate works entirely, so that the game always operates at TR24 but has a configurable turn buffer size. Both of these changes potentially involve revamping/improving the dynamic turnrate algorithm.

So basically, we can either spend time adding support for this setting, or we can spend time on the improvements that make it unnecessary and are way better overall.

On August 14 2021 11:42 LaStScan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2021 10:48 tec27 wrote:
As promised, here's the observer mode update

https://twitter.com/ShieldBatteryBW/status/1426359370984525824


will you add an option for users to turn on/off the fog of war?

Maybe eventually, but at the moment I think it's a defining feature and there's been plenty of people who logged on thinking they'd hate it who have really liked it. I know you complained before that you felt it was too blue (and there is an increased blue component in the unexplored fog, so this could be something we adjust). Is the reason you want to be able to turn it off because of that, or because of something else?
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
August 14 2021 09:39 GMT
#275
On August 14 2021 10:48 tec27 wrote:
As promised, here's the observer mode update

https://twitter.com/ShieldBatteryBW/status/1426359370984525824

Just installed the update, gonna try out the features. I really hope SB can attract more players, the only thing I'm missing is being able to consistently find a ladder match... I don't know how many foreign streamers have played around with ShieldBattery on stream but I imagine just having someone like Artosis mention it live would bring more attention towards it.

Keep up the good work guys.
Mine gas, build tanks.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1771 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-14 14:15:37
August 14 2021 14:15 GMT
#276
On August 14 2021 18:39 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2021 10:48 tec27 wrote:
As promised, here's the observer mode update

https://twitter.com/ShieldBatteryBW/status/1426359370984525824

Just installed the update, gonna try out the features. I really hope SB can attract more players, the only thing I'm missing is being able to consistently find a ladder match... I don't know how many foreign streamers have played around with ShieldBattery on stream but I imagine just having someone like Artosis mention it live would bring more attention towards it.

Keep up the good work guys.


Matchmaking ladder 2v2 would inflate the number of users even for 1on1 imo
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TeamThinkQuick
Profile Joined March 2021
200 Posts
August 14 2021 15:47 GMT
#277
Thanks for your responses.
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7033 Posts
August 14 2021 17:17 GMT
#278
If shield battery had something like this this:

https://dashboard.twitch.tv/extensions/lmsm5eua10j7zpmej0u799flvb0dgi-1.0.0 (W3Champions companion)

it could incentivize streamers to play on sb

Just an idea
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
August 14 2021 22:43 GMT
#279
On August 15 2021 02:17 Puosu wrote:
If shield battery had something like this this:

https://dashboard.twitch.tv/extensions/lmsm5eua10j7zpmej0u799flvb0dgi-1.0.0 (W3Champions companion)

it could incentivize streamers to play on sb

Just an idea

Twitch integrations are also something we'd like to work on for sure, but there is only so much time in the day One day we'll get there
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
lopisass
Profile Joined August 2021
2 Posts
August 15 2021 07:27 GMT
#280
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