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Like i said, people can make their own decisions and play wherever they want.. but for that they need options. Whatever happens after that is up to them, the client will speak for itself.
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Canada10095 Posts
Like i said, people can make their own decisions and play wherever they want.. but for that they need options. Whatever happens after that is up to them, the client will speak for itself. | ||
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tec27
United States3720 Posts
Despite people complaining immediately, tons of people reaching out on their forums and social media, etc. it took them 16 hours to roll it back again. They've still never posted an announcement about what the goal of the update was, never posted an announcement that they even released the update. The only reply on the situation was some lowly forum support person saying they "poked the devs" to get them to roll it back. The thing that really needs to be understood here is that what we have now is not a steady-state. Even if it feels sufficient for however you want to play, it's not sufficient for building a larger community, for serving the sorts of events and competition that BW needs to thrive, for expanding the reach of the game. And more than that, Blizzard is an *active threat* to the longevity of the game. How long do we have until they push a patch like this last one and they never roll it back? | ||
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oxKnu
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On June 10 2021 06:03 tec27 wrote: Blizzard just re-pushed a patch this week that completely broke LAN play, made the game unlaunchable for a sizeable portion of the population, broke the commonly used map editor, broke major chat and user functionality, added an annoying Chinese nag message for everyone. And this was the *second* time they pushed this patch, after they pushed it for a full day before and all of the same problems were there. Despite people complaining immediately, tons of people reaching out on their forums and social media, etc. it took them 16 hours to roll it back again. They've still never posted an announcement about what the goal of the update was, never posted an announcement that they even released the update. The only reply on the situation was some lowly forum support person saying they "poked the devs" to get them to roll it back. The thing that really needs to be understood here is that what we have now is not a steady-state. Even if it feels sufficient for however you want to play, it's not sufficient for building a larger community, for serving the sorts of events and competition that BW needs to thrive, for expanding the reach of the game. And more than that, Blizzard is an *active threat* to the longevity of the game. How long do we have until they push a patch like this last one and they never roll it back? You're an experienced programmer so you can understand where all those things you mentioned are most probably coming from: - they ditched the people that actually knew the codebase (to some extent) from the initial launch (the Classic Games Team) - they hired some lowly soul into an entry level paying job to do maintenance for the game, someone with little experience and certainly very little knowledge over an archaic codebase like that of BW. - whoever is now over-seeing the game from a dev perspective is probably just bombarded with requests like: we have to do this for the Chinese version of the game until X because of bla/bla regulations Then that person goes into the making whatever change is necessary with very little QA, pushes the patch and surprise, surprise, they break 5 other parts of the game because of it. It's a classic scenario that happens in every shop with 1/10000000 financial power of Blizzard. It's pure negligence and incompetence and they should be ashamed of this crap and no reasons for fans of the game or people that have bought the product to not castigate them for it. | ||
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Canada10095 Posts
On June 10 2021 06:14 oxKnu wrote: You're an experienced programmer so you can understand where all those things you mentioned are most probably coming from: - they ditched the people that actually knew the codebase (to some extent) from the initial launch (the Classic Games Team) - they hired some lowly soul into an entry level paying job to do maintenance for the game, someone with little experience and certainly very little knowledge over an archaic codebase like that of BW. - whoever is now over-seeing the game from a dev perspective is probably just bombarded with requests like: we have to do this for the Chinese version of the game until X because of bla/bla regulations Then that person goes into the making whatever change is necessary with very little QA, pushes the patch and surprise, surprise, they break 5 other parts of the game because of it. It's a classic scenario that happens in every shop with 1/10000000 financial power of Blizzard. It's pure negligence and incompetence and they should be ashamed of this crap and no reasons for fans of the game or people that have bought the product to not castigate them for it. yup, that's why we've been stuck in limbo for years | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7181 Posts
Do you wanna get 2v2 players on shield battery? make 2v2 ladder. Do you wanna get UMS community koreans included ? Allow UED like fish server did. You will get most of them. If shield battery is better than remastered they will realize this and switch again.Like they did years ago to fish or iccup. For me the best solution is We somehow as a community help to reach actual blizzard devs and try to get some tools for shield battery.So they can operate in a way like fish server did in the early of remastered before dying.That way shield battery will be integrated and mb also mix both matchmakings instead of spliting more the player base. | ||
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SuGo
United States681 Posts
On June 10 2021 05:14 HUOTURZREGDs wrote: --- Nuked --- I just want to know who this random guy is who keeps making new accounts like this to protest against SB lol. Even if you're against SB and think it will never work, I feel like it's pretty easy to at least view the initiative as cool. People literally built something like this from the ground up with their own free time. Even if you hate it, appreciate the technology, appreciate the people, appreciate the enthusiasm people have for the game. You literally don't have to agree with it and can simply appreciate it in other ways. But to come here and basically badmouth it from multiple smurfs and start troll level counter arguments at every moment seems like a mental health problem at this point lol. See a therapist.  | ||
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oxKnu
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On June 10 2021 10:48 SuGo wrote: I just want to know who this random guy is who keeps making new accounts like this to protest against SB lol. Even if you're against SB and think it will never work, I feel like it's pretty easy to at least view the initiative as cool. People literally built something like this from the ground up with their own free time. Even if you hate it, appreciate the technology, appreciate the people, appreciate the enthusiasm people have for the game. You literally don't have to agree with it and can simply appreciate it in other ways. But to come here and basically badmouth it from multiple smurfs and start troll level counter arguments at every moment seems like a mental health problem at this point lol. See a therapist. I think it might either be a kid with too much on his hands or someone that is fanboy-ing Blizzard to the absolute extreme and tries to protect their image in whichever way they can. The latter is hard to believe it actually exists out there in the real world. He must have burnt through at least 200 accounts/emails by now. I hope at least he has this automated somehow. For his own sanity. | ||
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oxKnu
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Spare everyone the time and just stop posting your idiotic rants. Find something useful to do with your time. | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3567 Posts
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pheer
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Bonyth
Poland620 Posts
On June 11 2021 06:37 hgkkjZTRTZRGHF wrote: Proof me wrong, what have you guys done in the last 10(?) years besides bitching about Blizzard and having russians host tournaments for the same 5 "Progamer". Have you had a single offline tournament? Not counting the one Blizzard hosted, of course. Where is your great awesome community? Are they just typing:"BWFTW FTW4EVER!!!" without actually playing the game? Isnt this project just the perfect mirror of how people dont actually support the project? I'm not gonna prove you wrong, however u should check the history yourself to see you are the one being wrong here | ||
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On June 10 2021 05:43 LML wrote: Oh, please. I have had very few problems over time since SC:R with game creation and joining. Outages of the League of Legends queue, for example, felt way more frequent (but shorter lived, tbf) when I actively played that in the past. All in all I wouldn't claim it to be as shit and doomed as some people here try to make it out to be. The most negative part is the missing support to make sure broken things get fixed faster. it hasn't even been 20 days yet, how's bnet looking to you now? | ||
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NotJumperer
United States1371 Posts
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WGT-Baal
France3567 Posts
Sigh... SB s fun but not enough folks. I d like it integrated if possible. Also a 2v2 ladder  may be with bwcl maps? I m open to discuss the 2v2 maps btw for next bwcl season to coordinate | ||
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tec27
United States3720 Posts
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Jealous
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On June 29 2021 08:00 tec27 wrote: We've just pushed a new update that includes a fix for the flying SCV exploit. https://twitter.com/ShieldBatteryBW/status/1409646875586666496 The side-by-side comparison to Blizzard's response speaks for itself. Keep up the great work. | ||
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Korea (South)1289 Posts
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tec27
United States3720 Posts
On June 30 2021 06:15 LaStScan wrote: I played couple games on SB, will there be a feature adding announcer voicepack just like skins feature? Yeah, that should be a pretty easy thing to add, I'll look into it! (For now I think it should take whatever was last set when you launched from the Blizzard launcher) | ||
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