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let's make pro players play brood war 'slowest'

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DracoMortuiVolantus
Profile Joined October 2016
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-25 11:19:52
October 25 2020 08:56 GMT
#1
let's make pro players play brood war 'slowest' and watch it 'fastest',
I can only imagine it would look like alfa zero playing houdini.

If some pro player aleady did this please post here,
if somebody will do this in the future, please post here also

LONG LIVE BROOD WAR
SouL)Z(Silver
Profile Joined September 2019
Russian Federation347 Posts
October 25 2020 09:16 GMT
#2
awesome
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-25 09:18:51
October 25 2020 09:18 GMT
#3
I did it few times like 15 years ago. Yes the game looks different, as mechanics really impact your decision making.. Fun thing but a 15 min game takes like 1h++.

We also did a FFA on Primeval Islands on slowest, that took a good 5-6h but was also quite epic.
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DracoMortuiVolantus
Profile Joined October 2016
68 Posts
October 25 2020 09:29 GMT
#4
games could be interrupted after few hours and played next day, just like in chess
damn You fog of war
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4012 Posts
October 25 2020 09:47 GMT
#5
anything that starts with "let's make pro players" already wins the internet.
Slowest is brutal especially the first 30 mins of the game (the "split your workers" part)
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-25 10:00:48
October 25 2020 10:00 GMT
#6
can you slow the speed in game? that would be fun, first 5-10 min fastest, then the slowest.

or like bullet time in Max Payne.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
October 25 2020 10:01 GMT
#7
lol ngl, sounds fun to see at least once.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
October 25 2020 10:43 GMT
#8
what we need is for others to play on slowest vs Flash while he is on fastest and see if he still wins
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LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1448 Posts
October 25 2020 14:13 GMT
#9
I`m getting frustrated just reading the title...

How about times 2, times 4, times 8?

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Aour
Profile Blog Joined October 2020
5 Posts
October 25 2020 15:21 GMT
#10
That can be a sort of meditation.

It can also be useful for practice. You need to be able to do things slowly before you have any hope of doing them correctly with speed.

Say, practice your build on slow speed.

Do it right 2-3x. Then normal. Then fast. Then fastest.
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 25 2020 15:32 GMT
#11
No thanks. Can you imagine slowest TvT? Players will need lunch breaks.
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SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
October 25 2020 16:02 GMT
#12
Could be played from a saved game starting around 8-10 minute.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 25 2020 17:19 GMT
#13
The ladder used to be played on fast and not fastest. Was that ever dreadful.

No one could stand it and yes games would take forever. It's not like we did not play on slow settings because yeah it made the game 3x longer..
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10165 Posts
October 25 2020 17:21 GMT
#14
I had been recently considering doing something similar vs BW AI
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
October 25 2020 19:04 GMT
#15
I think a a good compromise between slower play spend and length of game would be to have a variable speed over time. Something like this:

Fastest speed from 0-2 min
Fast from 2-4
Normal from 4-6
Slow from 6-8
Slowest from 8- onwards

But I don’t think you can do that even with the mapmaker...
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
October 25 2020 19:04 GMT
#16
There are some games which are played by this principle. I remember Toribash being like this. You pause every few ms in a fighting game to adjust inputs. Then at the end the fight is replayed at normal speed and looks amazing (when the people playing know what they are doing).
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
October 25 2020 19:06 GMT
#17
On October 26 2020 00:21 Aour wrote:
That can be a sort of meditation.

It can also be useful for practice. You need to be able to do things slowly before you have any hope of doing them correctly with speed.

Say, practice your build on slow speed.

Do it right 2-3x. Then normal. Then fast. Then fastest.

Do people practice like this? Maybe this is why I’ve never got good...
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10674 Posts
October 26 2020 06:59 GMT
#18
I guess it could be interesting to watch, but it would take forever to complete lol
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-26 07:25:09
October 26 2020 07:24 GMT
#19
On October 26 2020 04:06 hiro protagonist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2020 00:21 Aour wrote:
That can be a sort of meditation.

It can also be useful for practice. You need to be able to do things slowly before you have any hope of doing them correctly with speed.

Say, practice your build on slow speed.

Do it right 2-3x. Then normal. Then fast. Then fastest.

Do people practice like this? Maybe this is why I’ve never got good...

No.

Some of the modern strong non-koreans claim to practice builds on 2x and 3x to get them down pat.

The coolest practice advice I have heard from the Russian scene, is that they save a game at a certain crucial point and two players will play from there repeatedly to master certain openers, or middlegame positions ect.
Never had a partner to do this with, but it seems like a huge time saver, esp. compared to trying to practice builds below 1900 on the ladder.
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