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On July 04 2023 05:58 patetique wrote:this says just about view to game) its just game. again. no prise for S rank. no money for win. its just hobby for most part of gamers. check (for fun) age of players)) most 30yo+ its back to past. back to 1990s) see easy to it) its game.. and categories was creat (again - its just my opinion) for balance. just becouse team D-D-D win of team A-E-E.. and u get SABC games at evening. when most players back home from work (NOT FROM SCHOOL)) and want nice balance game..
Well, as you can see, this doesn't fit for everyone, some people just like the competition, so SAB would serve those ones, and the people you talk about can stick with lower ranked games. Win Win for everyone, or not?!
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im not bot owner))
but i think, for best gamers, bot not need)) its close round players.
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On July 04 2023 19:18 patetique wrote:
im not bot owner))
but i think, for best gamers, bot not need)) its close round players.
With regard to your previous comments -
1. Can you please prove? i.e. formula to calculate the bghmmr score. I know APM is a factor to calculate the score but how? and what %? I do believe it's just a tiny bit compared to win/loss. you can manipulate your APM up to 900 or more. I can let you know how. It does not materially contribute. Otherwise you could be ranked S too.
2. I understand folks have different motivations for playing games, and not everyone aims to climb the ranks or compete at a professional level, however in my point of view, "most of people" you said are mostly C,D,E and F rankers who don't care about teamplay but a balanced game by bot. So they can still play with each other in CDEF. SAB would be able to enjoy more strategic play which indeed requires 'teamplay'.
Please bear in mind that your FUN game would be annoying others(higher rankers). I'd like not to sacrifice myself for noobs game unless they're willing to learn.
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On July 04 2023 23:24 vfsjhvfsjh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2023 19:18 patetique wrote:
im not bot owner))
but i think, for best gamers, bot not need)) its close round players. With regard to your previous comments - 1. Can you please prove? i.e. formula to calculate the bghmmr score. I know APM is a factor to calculate the score but how? and what %? I do believe it's just a tiny bit compared to win/loss. you can manipulate your APM up to 900 or more. I can let you know how. It does not materially contribute. Otherwise you could be ranked S too. 2. I understand folks have different motivations for playing games, and not everyone aims to climb the ranks or compete at a professional level, however in my point of view, "most of people" you said are mostly C,D,E and F rankers who don't care about teamplay but a balanced game by bot. So they can still play with each other in CDEF. SAB would be able to enjoy more strategic play which indeed requires 'teamplay'. Please bear in mind that your FUN game would be annoying others(higher rankers). I'd like not to sacrifice myself for noobs game unless they're willing to learn.
1. ofcorse)) im analitic))
check - http://bghmmr.com/player.php?player=[BWF]Sisqo - A rank
check - http://bghmmr.com/player.php?player=ODA-MSK E rank..
W/L - near same.
i say to u diference - just APM..
logic:
1. after 50 wins, u can connect to mmrbot. bot check your W/L rate. u get bghmmr. for example 800.
2. bot check your first few games. W/L and your APM. after it you get RANK. if your APM 50-80 u get E, if 80-100 u get D..
etc. i know some cases, when player lost, but have rise BGHMMR)) cant show directly. but i see it by my aeys.
and for every W/L you wil get plus or minus bghmmr count.
after 80 games (near), not important how fast you will click. u will ALWAYS near your first recive rank.
and i know some A or S players, who just click fust)) whey dont send army to point, whey click all way)) and get 100500APM and A rank.. but tactick - near F rank..
its strategy. not CS, not quake.. player must think most of all. its my opinion. and to many real good plyers have D-E-C ranks. i think u know it.
2. ofcorse u are right. but small problem - not tu much SAB players, in one time in lobby. to much OTHER players, who want just play. - socialism)))
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On July 05 2023 01:19 patetique wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2023 23:24 vfsjhvfsjh wrote:On July 04 2023 19:18 patetique wrote:
im not bot owner))
but i think, for best gamers, bot not need)) its close round players. With regard to your previous comments - 1. Can you please prove? i.e. formula to calculate the bghmmr score. I know APM is a factor to calculate the score but how? and what %? I do believe it's just a tiny bit compared to win/loss. you can manipulate your APM up to 900 or more. I can let you know how. It does not materially contribute. Otherwise you could be ranked S too. 2. I understand folks have different motivations for playing games, and not everyone aims to climb the ranks or compete at a professional level, however in my point of view, "most of people" you said are mostly C,D,E and F rankers who don't care about teamplay but a balanced game by bot. So they can still play with each other in CDEF. SAB would be able to enjoy more strategic play which indeed requires 'teamplay'. Please bear in mind that your FUN game would be annoying others(higher rankers). I'd like not to sacrifice myself for noobs game unless they're willing to learn. 1. ofcorse)) im analitic)) check - http://bghmmr.com/player.php?player=[BWF]Sisqo - A rank check - http://bghmmr.com/player.php?player=ODA-MSK E rank.. W/L - near same. i say to u diference - just APM.. logic: 1. after 50 wins, u can connect to mmrbot. bot check your W/L rate. u get bghmmr. for example 800. 2. bot check your first few games. W/L and your APM. after it you get RANK. if your APM 50-80 u get E, if 80-100 u get D.. etc. i know some cases, when player lost, but have rise BGHMMR)) cant show directly. but i see it by my aeys. and for every W/L you wil get plus or minus bghmmr count. after 80 games (near), not important how fast you will click. u will ALWAYS near your first recive rank. and i know some A or S players, who just click fust)) whey dont send army to point, whey click all way)) and get 100500APM and A rank.. but tactick - near F rank.. its strategy. not CS, not quake.. player must think most of all. its my opinion. and to many real good plyers have D-E-C ranks. i think u know it. 2. ofcorse u are right. but small problem - not tu much SAB players, in one time in lobby. to much OTHER players, who want just play. - socialism)))
What's your point? There are 4 bots total right now, making one of them SAB wouldn't change anything for all your so called "other players", but it would be a pleasure for all B+. And except for the morning hours there are always enough players around.
And no, good players don't have C, D, E ranks, because if they were good, they would just not be that rank lol.
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See the below -
1. I don't quite get your logic. please refer to what D3AD-R3TARD said in the middle of page#2.
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/558574-bgh-auto-balance-http-bghmmrcom?page=2
BTW. I've changed mmr calculation mechanism to include player APM in setting the initial score (first 4 games). Later mmr changes are only dependent on match results. All scores were recalculated. Also listings contain now average eAPM for every player.
Additionally, you haven't taken total bghmmr score of 3 players in each teams into consideration. So, I can't believe APM is a main factor materially impacting the score.
2. it's the problem that we don't know yet. Why don't we give it a try though? 
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i show 2 links.
if D3AD-R3TARD change it, say me - how one have E, another A?..
guys. i will just folow bot owner. i sayd my opinion. over.
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On July 03 2023 20:04 patetique wrote:
Stats not calc from 02/07/23 17:30 eu - till now..
Thanks for noticing. Fixed.
BTW I saw someone debating about APM and MMR. So let me restate this. APM is only used in first 4 games as an fast estimate for players skill. Later only game results (wins and loses) count.
Also, an A player can have 45% win rate and E player can have 55% win rate. There is nothing strange about this because they don't play games at the same level of difficulty. MMR system takes into account the level of your opponents. So two wins are not counted the same way.
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On July 05 2023 02:22 patetique wrote:
i show 2 links.
if D3AD-R3TARD change it, say me - how one have E, another A?..
guys. i will just folow bot owner. i sayd my opinion. over.
So your logic is totally wrong. XD
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I've reviewed old team kill complaints and banned BG-BlackProtosS and Wy_IIIllIIllIlI. I didn't ban Pitt as he killed building of already inactive player.
As for AFK complaints: ATM there is no rule against it. However, there might be in the future. Nonetheless I don't think that permanent ban is valid in that situation.
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Team attack is when u ruin game .Blackprotoss just ruff ruff for fun some building without even killing it when game was 100% win. Who idiot reported him?
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Time to do something with ppl like lepacione.... we are winning the game, killed one, its 3v2, so its basically 100% win! He flames and sais gg few times during the game evertime the gets attacked, even though we are winning, he simply leaves for no reason in the middle of a winning game.
I see such behavior as killing your teammate or unallying your team! Its basically the same which lead us to losing a "won game"!!!
Requesting to ban him given that he got reported here already over 10 times for such behaviour!
Getting sick of it...
20230712/135104
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lepacione tries to keep his rank as low as possible in order to match with A S players so he does everything possible to lose.
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On July 12 2023 22:40 Alexander34 wrote:
lepacione tries to keep his rank as low as possible in order to match with A S players so he does everything possible to lose.
I dont care what he tries, he simply violates the game! Replay is there, host please check it and ban him! He left the game on purpose to make his team lose! Thats even worse then teamkilling!
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Its definetely time to deal with that person.. Violating the game as he does should not be allowed! He ruins the game simply.. Even though he did not teamkill or unallied anyone, that kind of behevaior in my eyes is even worse resulting in dishonoring his teammates, making his team lose, basically dishonoring the game!
PPl like him are a disgrace to that wonderful game we all love. Peace
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BAN REQUEST: Krakeder!
- Game no.: 20230713/163120
- Reason of request: He unallied me and asked everyone to attack me. (But none of them reacted, and got eliminated.)
Why he is pissed at me was I did not react to his order. But from the beginning of the game, he was having expa at other 2 main bases in addition to his base, without helping teams, nor making armies.
Typical selfish player's bullshit on teams.
(Anyway, I was able to win this game probably not following his orders.)
Please, ban him.
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On July 14 2023 00:11 lllllllllllllll wrote:
BAN REQUEST: Krakeder!
- Game no.: 20230713/163120
- Reason of request: He unallied me and asked everyone to attack me. (But none of them reacted, and got eliminated.)
Please, ban him.
Krakeder, kakkione.. not same?..
P.S. all have 3:26 error?..
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