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AfreecaTV_ASL
24 Posts
We would like to announce the winners of our ASL Map Contest! ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/z7rpUnK.png) Congratulations to the winners, and thank you, everyone, for your interest and passion for this event. If you want to try out the winners' maps, you can download the map files HERE Sincerely, AfreecaTV. 
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FlopTurnReaver
Switzerland1980 Posts
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
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Trozz
Canada3455 Posts
DWeb/egg hallways hell yeah. Grats to the winners! | ||
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mAziciAn
Korea (South)29 Posts
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GTR
51500 Posts
edit: looking at it that way, i hope polypoid/karma outright replace fs/cb. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
FS/CB is Blizzard's stale map policy. Afreeca has long moved on, so no danger of that in ASL. Polypoid and Karma are just so very similar. If I had to chose I'd go with Karma right now. It's better executed in many aspects. I particularly like that it's the only one of the finalist maps with well-designed ramps (apart from a little blind spot on the top right main ramp, probably just an oversight). Only has some mining issues. If I were to suggest any changes to either of these I would say more attention should be put on how units move between the naturals. It's always good to have multiple equidistant routes around the map. Pathing right now seems to be focussed to much on the sides and even through the third bases rather than guiding units towards the middle. | ||
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sntct
100 Posts
On November 02 2019 20:34 Freakling wrote: I like the result :p Actually having Inner Coven in an ASL would be interesting, although the most I dare to hope realistically is that it can guide the way to more stable island maps some two or three iterations down the road. It's still too much uncharted territory and speculation in that area, but I hope Afreeca is staying true to their map crazy maps policies and going down that road (while not overcrowding their map pool with potentially balance breaking stuff!). FS/CB is Blizzard's stale map policy. Afreeca has long moved on, so no danger of that in ASL. Polypoid and Karma are just so very similar. If I had to chose I'd go with Karma right now. It's better executed in many aspects. I particularly like that it's the only one of the finalist maps with well-designed ramps (apart from a little blind spot on the top right main ramp, probably just an oversight). Only has some mining issues. If I were to suggest any changes to either of these I would say more attention should be put on how units move between the naturals. It's always good to have multiple equidistant routes around the map. Pathing right now seems to be focussed to much on the sides and even through the third bases rather than guiding units towards the middle. I voted for coven, and flightpath, although I was more looking forward to seeing some games on flightpath as an interesting island map. I also voted karma, because the open middle allows good battles/engagements. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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Excalibur
United States58 Posts
I still think there are some real problems with how maps are selected and analyzed across the board, but Afreeca seem to be one of the only ones headed in the right direction, albeit not as far or as fast as I would like to see. Hopefully they continue to move toward less standard and stale maps while maintaining vigilance on often overlooked problems or technical details that become apparent during play. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4227 Posts
2 out of 3 that I've voted for are in.. But I have to say i'm still kinda not content, because I really wanted Fatal Combat to make it.. But I have to say i'm still kinda not content, because I really wanted Fatal Combat to make it.. And two out of three of these maps are very similar to eachother.. I would go with Karma from these 2 tbh. Looks more interesting. Anyways, I Can't wait to see some professional games on these. ASL > KSL every day, any day. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4227 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19299 Posts
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
Congrats :3 | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5670 Posts
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On November 04 2019 15:13 StRyKeR wrote: Pre-placed DWebs behave a bit different than normal cast DWebs.Just noticed in game, but the disruption webs appear to be above air units, like overlords. Was that intentional? On November 04 2019 15:21 StRyKeR wrote: Also a fun fact I never knew before until just now playing around on Inner Coven: infested terrans can still explode under disruption web! Really?! Strange. Have to try that. | ||
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ggsimida
1148 Posts
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On November 04 2019 18:32 ggsimida wrote: also spider mines can activate and blow up stuff under web afaik. No they cannot. Scarabs still explode, though  | ||
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ZugzwangSC
87 Posts
May the artistry of map design live on. | ||
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ggsimida
1148 Posts
On November 04 2019 20:01 Freakling wrote: No they cannot. Scarabs still explode, though o my mistake, they DO blow up stuff under web if they activate outside of the web. they can't activate inside web | ||
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JakePlissken
55 Posts
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onlystar
United States971 Posts
On November 07 2019 07:08 JakePlissken wrote: RIP Flightpath and Fatal Combat. Long live the FS/CB/Sylphid clone treadmill hmm mkay buddy what did you smoke>? they are NOT clones of fs/cb/sylphid | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4227 Posts
On November 07 2019 07:08 JakePlissken wrote: RIP Flightpath and Fatal Combat. Long live the FS/CB/Sylphid clone treadmill only problem is that Karma and Polypoid are very similar.. everything else is cool and dandy | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On November 07 2019 07:37 M3t4PhYzX wrote: only problem is that Karma and Polypoid are very similar.. everything else is cool and dandy yeah i wish one of the 4 player map was swapped out.. fatal combat seemed like a ride of valkyries 2.0, was really looking forward to that map | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4227 Posts
On November 07 2019 17:30 konadora wrote: yeah i wish one of the 4 player map was swapped out.. fatal combat seemed like a ride of valkyries 2.0, was really looking forward to that map Yeah.. my thoughts exactly. 1x 3 player / 1x 2 player / 1x 4 player map would be ideal I would love to watch some games on Fatal Combat | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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JakePlissken
55 Posts
It's not that remaking old maps is a problem. Fatal Combat is just a rework of Ride of the Valkyries, but that map hasn't been played competitively since 2005, and we have no idea how the pros of today would adapt to it. Meanwhile, the entire modern meta was developed on standard 4p maps, and there's nowhere to go but down balance-wise. There's two ways to look at it: either show us innovative new maps to watch how pro players develop new strategies, or show us the maps we're actually going to play on ladder so we can learn from the pros. I should say though that these maps aren't entirely dull and uninspired. Polypoid has Rhynadons that wander through the bases and block your buildings and expansions, forcing you to send units there to kill them. Don't you love it when your fourth base is delayed by 12 seconds because you had to wait for your worker to kill a critter? Maybe they did it just to give Brood War's top professionals the authentic 2009 experience of being behind at random due to bad map design. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
On November 20 2019 00:37 Freakling wrote: Yay, my stuff finally arrived :D Sick!! | ||
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sntct
100 Posts
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vhvvx777
Russian Federation541 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2288 Posts
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines591 Posts
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Amanebak
Czech Republic528 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
also thanks amanebak for the link! | ||
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