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On August 30 2019 19:23 LaStScan wrote:
i didn't read all of the comments, but i see dramas. 3hatch hydra is not broken at all.
I don't care what rank, mmr you guys are, but if you wanna beat 3 hatch hydra(renamed 973) then just go nexus first or forge expo.
protoss players have been doing 1 gate expo every game and that's what 3hatch hydra looks so strong.
Here's the basic knowledge i gathered from HyuK's comment on Overwatch Rain vs Sacsri.
He said that zerg should not ever go for hydra first vs 12 nexus.
it's basically a throwing a game because of protoss's economy+speed of tech.
Well .... you didn't read the comments and managed to say nothing that was useful or related to the topic.
So ... congratulations in a thread full of bad posts ... you are right near the top.
like .... the new "973" ... is the 9734 .. which is a 4 hat hydra ...
0/10 wouldn't recommend posting without reading.
Or watch the video .... LOL
Edit: I have msged Lastscan and apologized for A) misreading his initial post and B) being harsh.
There are messages that follow in this thread where I walk further upon steps of misunderstanding.
In an effort to make the thread better, I crapped it up. Sorry to everyone but that one guy
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On August 30 2019 19:26 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2019 19:23 LaStScan wrote:
i didn't read all of the comments, but i see dramas. 3hatch hydra is not broken at all.
I don't care what rank, mmr you guys are, but if you wanna beat 3 hatch hydra(renamed 973) then just go nexus first or forge expo.
protoss players have been doing 1 gate expo every game and that's what 3hatch hydra looks so strong.
Here's the basic knowledge i gathered from HyuK's comment on Overwatch Rain vs Sacsri.
He said that zerg should not ever go for hydra first vs 12 nexus.
it's basically a throwing a game because of protoss's economy+speed of tech. Well .... you didn't read the comments and managed to say nothing that was useful or related to the topic. So ... congratulations in a thread full of bad posts ... you are right near the top. like .... the new "973" ... is the 9734 .. which is a 4 hat hydra ... 0/10 wouldn't recommend posting without reading. Or watch the video .... LOL
yeah, i didn't read. that's what i said in the first sentence. i'm just here to give out the solution what P should be doing.
I watched the video way before someone posted on tl.net with english sub.
probably i'll go through some comments later when i get off the bus.
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Never mind. Not worth it.
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But Nexus first (before forge or gate) is always good against anything, it's just a gamble (5pool/9pool)
I'm curious about the gate expand though, how is 3hh better against it, compared to forge? Toss delays tech, but zerg delays his timings as well to defend the early zealots, so I thought it comes down to how good the trades are.
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You two should combine your interests and start a new strategy thread about 3 hat hydra and protosses optimal responses and tech trees.
You know ... since this thread is about a 4 hat hydra into mass hatchery macro play aka the new "973" which is 9734 which is 4 hat hydra and the problems protoss are experiencing with this new trend.
Since some of you seem to be struggling.
Here is the build which is relevant:
https://tl.net/forum/bw-strategy/550622-zvp-zeros-new-9734-build
the 4 at the end .... is 4th hatchery. Or you can click on the sc2 forum and post there since your comments are about as relevant here as there.
Here is a link that is relevant to what you guys are talking about  Protoss Counter to Zerg All-ins
or here
https://tl.net/forum/bw-strategy/438605-pvz-counter-all-ins-and-cheese
It is ancient history and not very interesting but it seems to be what you guys find interesting.
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i think you shouldn't be patronizing someone whose offrace mmr is higher than your main race mmr lul
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Edit: Just read a few pages of your post history. I don't think you have ever made a decent post. Arg ... shouldn't have even responded.
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On August 29 2019 21:28 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2019 20:21 Liquid`Drone wrote:zealots were 80-80 and they were strengthened by being made 60/100  We have to go back in time and stop them, those maniacs! In all seriousness Jinjins temp ban was certainly justified there because he flipped out like a crazy person and jealous was warned because he's been here years and I think he's probably been banned more than anyone else / had more accounts than anyone else, he should no better than be like that haha. Hopefully jinjin comes back from his ban and keeps bringing us amazing content though, because it's been great so far <3
I had to he began bringing up asl stats
Maybe i should stop posting with korean translated titles. The video itself deals with perception of "broken" builds and how it goes through cycle and problem solving through innovation and adaption and at final course of through maps if no other choice
But dazed does get btfo
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On August 30 2019 21:26 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2019 21:17 ggsimida wrote:
i think you shouldn't be patronizing someone whose offrace mmr is higher than your main race mmr lul There is an mmr for posting? If so, you guys are dreadful. Been back 2 weeks and I'm 1850-1950 on any given day. I'm good with where I'm at. And I've beaten several of the top 40 in bsl in 50 minute games. Once again, being a good player doesn't mean you aren't a crap poster. Are you a good player or just a crap poster? Oh wait I don't care.... Anything to say about the actual topic?
if i want to listen to the latest developments on say theoretical physics, who do i listen to, the physics scientist or the high school physics teacher? the teacher "maybe" can explain basic concepts better but im not after basic concepts here, i want the advanced theory only the scientist/s have. if deferring to the scientist over the teacher means "sucking cock" like you ascribed to me in your childish PM, then i have no other words for you and just hope you have a good day.
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He offered nothing relevant.
You posted nothing relevant.
I did send you a funny pm.
I regret responding to someone who has never made a good post before.
Also.... you can get wrecked in a streamed showmatch ..... you know if you are good enough for advanced lessons.
I will gladly mock you publicly. NP Mr.Gosu.
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On August 30 2019 21:47 AttackZerg wrote:
He offered nothing relevant.
You posted nothing relevant.
I did send you a funny pm.
I regret responding to someone who has never made a good post before.
scan impromptu translation of hyuk provided more insight than any of your comments on this thread.
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I have wasted time and words.
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On August 30 2019 21:47 AttackZerg wrote:
He offered nothing relevant.
You posted nothing relevant.
I did send you a funny pm.
I regret responding to someone who has never made a good post before.
Also.... you can get wrecked in a streamed showmatch ..... you know if you are good enough for advanced lessons.
I will gladly mock you publicly. NP Mr.Gosu.
You know who Scan is, right?
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I think after all this...permaban Telecom seems best
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On August 30 2019 23:22 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2019 21:47 AttackZerg wrote:
He offered nothing relevant.
You posted nothing relevant.
I did send you a funny pm.
I regret responding to someone who has never made a good post before.
Also.... you can get wrecked in a streamed showmatch ..... you know if you are good enough for advanced lessons.
I will gladly mock you publicly. NP Mr.Gosu. You know who Scan is, right?
He probably thinks im just a random english speaker who is interested in sc 
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On August 30 2019 21:43 jinjin5000 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2019 21:28 Qikz wrote:On August 29 2019 20:21 Liquid`Drone wrote:zealots were 80-80 and they were strengthened by being made 60/100 We have to go back in time and stop them, those maniacs! In all seriousness Jinjins temp ban was certainly justified there because he flipped out like a crazy person and jealous was warned because he's been here years and I think he's probably been banned more than anyone else / had more accounts than anyone else, he should no better than be like that haha. Hopefully jinjin comes back from his ban and keeps bringing us amazing content though, because it's been great so far <3 I had to he began bringing up asl stats Maybe i should stop posting with korean translated titles. The video itself deals with perception of "broken" builds and how it goes through cycle and problem solving through innovation and adaption and at final course of through maps if no other choice But dazed does get btfo
I think it's a minority that cares about such a detail. Most people are just happy for the translations The only change would be "Flash talks about 973" which doesn't convey the buzz around 973 and makes the video less interesting, makes it sound like he's just talking about some build. By all means name them what you want, but don't get worried just because one or two people have an opinion on it. I think the title was good, it lead me into the video and the video delivered what I expected.
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On August 30 2019 23:22 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2019 21:47 AttackZerg wrote:
He offered nothing relevant.
You posted nothing relevant.
I did send you a funny pm.
I regret responding to someone who has never made a good post before.
Also.... you can get wrecked in a streamed showmatch ..... you know if you are good enough for advanced lessons.
I will gladly mock you publicly. NP Mr.Gosu. You know who Scan is, right?
I do not know who scan is.
I apologized for being a dick thou. Regardless of who he is, I should have been nicer.
Without knowing who he is I did pm him an apology.
Gosu or not, I was a dick.
Sorry again dude.
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On August 31 2019 04:27 Models wrote:
I think after all this...permaban Telecom seems best
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On August 30 2019 19:23 LaStScan wrote:
i didn't read all of the comments, but i see dramas. 3hatch hydra is not broken at all.
I don't care what rank, mmr you guys are, but if you wanna beat 3 hatch hydra(renamed 973) then just go nexus first or forge expo.
protoss players have been doing 1 gate expo every game and that's what 3hatch hydra looks so strong.
Here's the basic knowledge i gathered from HyuK's comment on Overwatch Rain vs Sacsri.
He said that zerg should not ever go for hydra first vs 12 nexus.
it's basically a throwing a game because of protoss's economy+speed of tech.
but that opens 9p to just straight kill you, if protoss opens nexus 1st is basically gambling that zerg is going overpool.
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On August 31 2019 07:51 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2019 23:22 Jealous wrote:On August 30 2019 21:47 AttackZerg wrote:
He offered nothing relevant.
You posted nothing relevant.
I did send you a funny pm.
I regret responding to someone who has never made a good post before.
Also.... you can get wrecked in a streamed showmatch ..... you know if you are good enough for advanced lessons.
I will gladly mock you publicly. NP Mr.Gosu. You know who Scan is, right? I do not know who scan is. I apologized for being a dick thou. Regardless of who he is, I should have been nicer. Without knowing who he is I did pm him an apology. Gosu or not, I was a dick. Sorry again dude.
Scan
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