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On September 03 2019 00:47 A.Alm wrote:
Flash says in the video that protoss will find a way to deal with this, and if not, the maps will change to balance this. 70% of video is him talking about 111 build / f.e 5rax and how zergs eventually found a counter to it (because he is a Terran player, not a protoss player), and also that we shouldn't worry about this breaking the match up.
What groundbreaking information did Flash add that deserves a thread with the title "build that broke PvZ"? If this build has broken the matchup (as you say, JinJin), it would be nice to back it up with some data (as i did with ASL). If you don't like my data, counter it with better data.
He basically just translated the hyperbolic title used on the actual video itself. Maybe it was a bit misleading but it was a translation and this is a random thread on TL, not an article in a newspaper.
You've made a mountain out of a molehill and come off as a huge jerk along the way. Data is important but people who play the "counter my data with data" card without recognizing whether it's an appropriate context to do so just set back situations where data is legitimately important.
No one is claiming 9734 has broken anything beyond the hyperbolic title, which seems totally appropriate when someone took the time to translate a video and provide a great service to the community. Of course you then insulted the translator.
Here's some data for you:
Number of (useful and interesting) translations by jinjin: many
Number of translations by you: 0
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On September 03 2019 02:12 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2019 00:47 A.Alm wrote:
Flash says in the video that protoss will find a way to deal with this, and if not, the maps will change to balance this. 70% of video is him talking about 111 build / f.e 5rax and how zergs eventually found a counter to it (because he is a Terran player, not a protoss player), and also that we shouldn't worry about this breaking the match up.
What groundbreaking information did Flash add that deserves a thread with the title "build that broke PvZ"? If this build has broken the matchup (as you say, JinJin), it would be nice to back it up with some data (as i did with ASL). If you don't like my data, counter it with better data.
He basically just translated the hyperbolic title used on the actual video itself. Maybe it was a bit misleading but it was a translation and this is a random thread on TL, not an article in a newspaper. You've made a mountain out of a molehill and come off as a huge jerk along the way. Data is important but people who play the "counter my data with data" card without recognizing whether it's an appropriate context to do so just set back situations where data is legitimately important. No one is claiming 9734 has broken anything beyond the hyperbolic title, which seems totally appropriate when someone took the time to translate a video and provide a great service to the community. Of course you then insulted the translator. Here's some data for you too: Number of (useful and interesting) translations by jinjin: many Number of translations by you: 0
I mentioned the ASL results. How are they irrelevant?
Here's some more data for you:
Number of (useful and interesting) translations by jinjin: many
Number of translations by you: 0
^ now that is irrelevant data
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On September 03 2019 02:12 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2019 00:47 A.Alm wrote:
Flash says in the video that protoss will find a way to deal with this, and if not, the maps will change to balance this. 70% of video is him talking about 111 build / f.e 5rax and how zergs eventually found a counter to it (because he is a Terran player, not a protoss player), and also that we shouldn't worry about this breaking the match up.
What groundbreaking information did Flash add that deserves a thread with the title "build that broke PvZ"? If this build has broken the matchup (as you say, JinJin), it would be nice to back it up with some data (as i did with ASL). If you don't like my data, counter it with better data.
He basically just translated the hyperbolic title used on the actual video itself. Maybe it was a bit misleading but it was a translation and this is a random thread on TL, not an article in a newspaper. You've made a mountain out of a molehill and come off as a huge jerk along the way. Data is important but people who play the "counter my data with data" card without recognizing whether it's an appropriate context to do so just set back situations where data is legitimately important. No one is claiming 9734 has broken anything beyond the hyperbolic title, which seems totally appropriate when someone took the time to translate a video and provide a great service to the community. Of course you then insulted the translator. Here's some data for you: Number of (useful and interesting) translations by jinjin: many Number of translations by you: 0
Exactly man ty, cutting right through the bullshit. A guy takes the time to translate and subs a pretty cool video featuring GOD of the game talking about BW and this clown try to make him back up on his words claiming idk what about the title... jesus christ... and even ask for the thread to be removed (¿?¿?) Me, I want as many Flash subs video talking about anything as possible, the more the better, so for me this fucking worm is an annoyance getting in the way of something good, he even managed to get the guy I should thank for the content temp banned.
A.Aim: to me, right now, everything you say has the same value as rotten food on the floor, get out of the way trash, you are bothering me.
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On September 03 2019 03:58 A.Alm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2019 02:12 darktreb wrote:On September 03 2019 00:47 A.Alm wrote:
Flash says in the video that protoss will find a way to deal with this, and if not, the maps will change to balance this. 70% of video is him talking about 111 build / f.e 5rax and how zergs eventually found a counter to it (because he is a Terran player, not a protoss player), and also that we shouldn't worry about this breaking the match up.
What groundbreaking information did Flash add that deserves a thread with the title "build that broke PvZ"? If this build has broken the matchup (as you say, JinJin), it would be nice to back it up with some data (as i did with ASL). If you don't like my data, counter it with better data.
He basically just translated the hyperbolic title used on the actual video itself. Maybe it was a bit misleading but it was a translation and this is a random thread on TL, not an article in a newspaper. You've made a mountain out of a molehill and come off as a huge jerk along the way. Data is important but people who play the "counter my data with data" card without recognizing whether it's an appropriate context to do so just set back situations where data is legitimately important. No one is claiming 9734 has broken anything beyond the hyperbolic title, which seems totally appropriate when someone took the time to translate a video and provide a great service to the community. Of course you then insulted the translator. Here's some data for you too: Number of (useful and interesting) translations by jinjin: many Number of translations by you: 0 I mentioned the ASL results. How are they irrelevant? Here's some more data for you: Number of (useful and interesting) translations by jinjin: many Number of translations by you: 0 ^ now that is irrelevant data
You asking for this thread to be removed is ANTI-BW, GET OUT, you are the one who should be erased here, you are a waste of time, you are less than a 0, rotten food...
User was warned for this post.
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On September 03 2019 00:47 A.Alm wrote:
Flash says in the video that protoss will find a way to deal with this, and if not, the maps will change to balance this. 70% of video is him talking about 111 build / f.e 5rax and how zergs eventually found a counter to it (because he is a Terran player, not a protoss player), and also that we shouldn't worry about this breaking the match up.
What groundbreaking information did Flash add that deserves a thread with the title "build that broke PvZ"? If this build has broken the matchup (as you say, JinJin), it would be nice to back it up with some data (as i did with ASL). If you don't like my data, counter it with better data.
Jinjin is translating a video - a video that to me was worth listening to. Furthermore, since I don't play/follow BW as religiously as I did before, I wouldn't have been seen or understood anything in this video unless jinjin posted the translation of it. Why are you being so nitpicky about him translating and posting it?
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On September 03 2019 03:58 A.Alm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2019 02:12 darktreb wrote:On September 03 2019 00:47 A.Alm wrote:
Flash says in the video that protoss will find a way to deal with this, and if not, the maps will change to balance this. 70% of video is him talking about 111 build / f.e 5rax and how zergs eventually found a counter to it (because he is a Terran player, not a protoss player), and also that we shouldn't worry about this breaking the match up.
What groundbreaking information did Flash add that deserves a thread with the title "build that broke PvZ"? If this build has broken the matchup (as you say, JinJin), it would be nice to back it up with some data (as i did with ASL). If you don't like my data, counter it with better data.
He basically just translated the hyperbolic title used on the actual video itself. Maybe it was a bit misleading but it was a translation and this is a random thread on TL, not an article in a newspaper. You've made a mountain out of a molehill and come off as a huge jerk along the way. Data is important but people who play the "counter my data with data" card without recognizing whether it's an appropriate context to do so just set back situations where data is legitimately important. No one is claiming 9734 has broken anything beyond the hyperbolic title, which seems totally appropriate when someone took the time to translate a video and provide a great service to the community. Of course you then insulted the translator. Here's some data for you too: Number of (useful and interesting) translations by jinjin: many Number of translations by you: 0 I mentioned the ASL results. How are they irrelevant? Here's some more data for you: Number of (useful and interesting) translations by jinjin: many Number of translations by you: 0 ^ now that is irrelevant data
If you're reading a translated article, do you shoot the translator or do you shoot the person who actually wrote the article?
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On September 03 2019 04:17 imBLIND wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2019 03:58 A.Alm wrote:On September 03 2019 02:12 darktreb wrote:On September 03 2019 00:47 A.Alm wrote:
Flash says in the video that protoss will find a way to deal with this, and if not, the maps will change to balance this. 70% of video is him talking about 111 build / f.e 5rax and how zergs eventually found a counter to it (because he is a Terran player, not a protoss player), and also that we shouldn't worry about this breaking the match up.
What groundbreaking information did Flash add that deserves a thread with the title "build that broke PvZ"? If this build has broken the matchup (as you say, JinJin), it would be nice to back it up with some data (as i did with ASL). If you don't like my data, counter it with better data.
He basically just translated the hyperbolic title used on the actual video itself. Maybe it was a bit misleading but it was a translation and this is a random thread on TL, not an article in a newspaper. You've made a mountain out of a molehill and come off as a huge jerk along the way. Data is important but people who play the "counter my data with data" card without recognizing whether it's an appropriate context to do so just set back situations where data is legitimately important. No one is claiming 9734 has broken anything beyond the hyperbolic title, which seems totally appropriate when someone took the time to translate a video and provide a great service to the community. Of course you then insulted the translator. Here's some data for you too: Number of (useful and interesting) translations by jinjin: many Number of translations by you: 0 I mentioned the ASL results. How are they irrelevant? Here's some more data for you: Number of (useful and interesting) translations by jinjin: many Number of translations by you: 0 ^ now that is irrelevant data If you're reading a translated article, do you shoot the translator or do you shoot the person who actually wrote the article?
Neither, you just be an unappreciative moron on forums about it.
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Washington, D.C9860 Posts
this always happens. it goes like this:
step 1: someone puts in a lot of time to give us really good content
step 2: someone comes along and make a horrifically stupid comment
step 3: everyone gets moderated and we stop getting content
my suspicion is that this cycle can be broken if we can just eliminate step 2. it'd be nice if we collectively tried to do this. A.Alm i understand you are only working with what god gave you but please try your best
thank you everybody for your cooperation
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On September 03 2019 05:29 intrigue wrote:
my suspicion is that this cycle can be broken if we can just eliminate step 2. it'd be nice if we collectively tried to do this. A.Alm i understand you are only working with what god gave you but please try your best
thank you everybody for your cooperation
Excellent suggestion. I enjoyed the video.
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On September 03 2019 05:29 intrigue wrote:
this always happens. it goes like this:
step 1: someone puts in a lot of time to give us really good content
step 2: someone comes along and make a horrifically stupid comment
step 3: everyone gets moderated and we stop getting content
my suspicion is that this cycle can be broken if we can just eliminate step 2. it'd be nice if we collectively tried to do this. A.Alm i understand you are only working with what god gave you but please try your best
thank you everybody for your cooperation
Thank you for this sanity check. The foreign Brood war scene needs all the help it can get. Most of us appreciate jinjin’s work, and I would hate for it to stop. So what if the title is click baity? It was flash’s title. Plus, even if 9734 has broken the matchup at the moment, the point that flash was making it won’t stay broken.
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On September 03 2019 05:29 intrigue wrote:
this always happens. it goes like this:
step 1: someone puts in a lot of time to give us really good content
step 2: someone comes along and make a horrifically stupid comment
step 3: everyone gets moderated and we stop getting content
my suspicion is that this cycle can be broken if we can just eliminate step 2. it'd be nice if we collectively tried to do this. A.Alm i understand you are only working with what god gave you but please try your best
thank you everybody for your cooperation
Thanks for feedback! I will try my best, but its kinda hard thanks to my unfortunate god given brain injury.
Bless me.
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On September 03 2019 05:29 intrigue wrote:
this always happens. it goes like this:
step 1: someone puts in a lot of time to give us really good content
step 2: someone comes along and make a horrifically stupid comment
step 3: everyone gets moderated and we stop getting content
my suspicion is that this cycle can be broken if we can just eliminate step 2. it'd be nice if we collectively tried to do this. A.Alm i understand you are only working with what god gave you but please try your best
thank you everybody for your cooperation
yes man that's exactly how I feel, that's why I'm beeing so energetic about this. I don't wante this to go unnoticed and JinJin feel like his work is not beeing appreciated and that none is backing him up when beeing moderated.
I just didn't wanted to let it go, we as a group need to take care of the valuable members of this community, lack of care and compromise may make them go away and that would be detrimental for everyone. Mistakes can be made, and most of the problems of this sort can be solverd by just talking.
A.Aim, I really appreciate you saying you understand our point, I apologize to you and everyone for the uproar, but I also assumed you are are grown man who could take some verbal beating and survive.
Hwaiting!
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On September 03 2019 07:45 LocoBolon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2019 05:29 intrigue wrote:
this always happens. it goes like this:
step 1: someone puts in a lot of time to give us really good content
step 2: someone comes along and make a horrifically stupid comment
step 3: everyone gets moderated and we stop getting content
my suspicion is that this cycle can be broken if we can just eliminate step 2. it'd be nice if we collectively tried to do this. A.Alm i understand you are only working with what god gave you but please try your best
thank you everybody for your cooperation yes man that's exactly how I feel, that's why I'm beeing so energetic about this. I don't wante this to go unnoticed and JinJin feel like his work is not beeing appreciated and that none is backing him up when beeing moderated. I just didn't wanted to let it go, we as a group need to take care of the valuable members of this community, lack of care and compromise may make them go away and that would be detrimental for everyone. Mistakes can be made, and most of the problems of this sort can be solverd by just talking. A.Aim, I really appreciate you saying you understand our point, I apologize to you and everyone for the uproar, but I also assumed you are are grown man who could take some verbal beating and survive. Hwaiting!
Sadly, he was being facetious.
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Interesting thanks for the translation
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On August 27 2019 05:05 SchAmToo wrote:
There's two choices to making a game:
Patch a game to fix minor things, bring out of meta units in, and nerf broken ones.
Don't patch a game much and hope the balance of the units was pretty good the last state and that the players will "figure out" how to handle broken things.
This is the universe we live in. SC2 keeps patching with massive "change the world" patches which drastically change how units interact and that forces the players to make large changes to their gameplay every year/patch.
SCBW doesn't. The gameplay changes in much smaller ways based on patches and discoveries.
Depends what y'all like. I think 90% of the people I know who don't play SCBW is because its "old" and "too hard". I've never heard "stale meta".
i agree. never liked the philisophy of many patches - not in games, not in any kind of software
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TLADT24000 Posts
Thanks for sharing. He didn't say a ton of new stuff, but it was interesting to hear things from his perspective.
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