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Wizard
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Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 23:08:49
June 14 2007 12:31 GMT
#1
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Poll: Micro or Macro?
(Vote): Micro
(Vote): Macro

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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
June 14 2007 12:35 GMT
#2
I use to be pretty heavily micro oriented. I've worked on balancing it out... but I'd say I'm still slightly more micro based. Although I think it's really bad right now.

Oh except on ZvP... depending the style I'm playing. When I'm playing macro style with hydra/ling/lurk only then I'm usually pumping from about 10 hatches so there's almost no micro going on :p
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joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
June 14 2007 12:36 GMT
#3
early game 100:0 micro mid game micro/macro 50:50 and late game 100:0 macro
Dark_Luster
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)438 Posts
June 14 2007 12:37 GMT
#4
i believe that if you have a good macro and an okay micro, you can beat
good micro and okay macro.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 14 2007 12:38 GMT
#5
depends on matchup

ZvT/ZvZ - Microooooooooooooooooo!
ZvP - 1sz2sz3sz4sz5su6su7su8su9sz0sz
1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a
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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
June 14 2007 12:39 GMT
#6
Why isn't "suckro" an option? I feel excluded!
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-27 23:09:11
June 14 2007 12:39 GMT
#7
^^
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
June 14 2007 12:40 GMT
#8
macro
im so bad at starcraft all i can do is just keep building shit
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 12:44:06
June 14 2007 12:42 GMT
#9
micro
im so bad at starcraft all i can do is spam what little units i have
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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
June 14 2007 12:43 GMT
#10
Micro
I like to use storm/reaver in all my mu's, sometimes even skip getting early robo in PvT to do a little dragoon dancing against mines. I pretty much depend on my harass ability and timing attacks. Macro's not too bad though, finally learned to max out at the 11:50 mark in PvT and about 13:20 in PvZ. But thats not always the best option, as I painfully learned. I'm very random with what I do, throw in a shuttle, load an archon + 2 temps, scourge trailing me, drop archon, kill them, reload, storm nearby hydras. Or as retarded as sending +2 zeals over mine fields and trying to kill them without losing a single one. I'm an aggressive player too, so I try to get the game done mid-game, I'm not very good managing crisis late game periods but I've become gradually better at it. (Ex: fucking deflier/crack drops, 3/3 200/200 terran ball, 200/200 PvP stalemates.<--gay)
Zoan
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States53 Posts
June 14 2007 12:44 GMT
#11
I don't know why but I always seem to have awesome micro. In those "1v1 RoV play/obs LOL!!!" games, whenever I play everyone seems to go of ac and type stuff like "wow amazing micro lawl!" It's probably not true and they're probably just idiot newbs but I check BwChart and my micro is always above 100, sometimes almost near the 200 mark!!

Yet, my macro totally fails. I can destroy tank pushes with superior micro yet I'll end up losing because I don't have enough units. .__.'''
Moo.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 14 2007 12:51 GMT
#12
With bitches I'm all macro. I have damn good micro but I don't want them falling in love or anything so I just attack move.
why so 진지해?
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 12:55:52
June 14 2007 12:55 GMT
#13
Used to be macro...leaning to micro now



DT AND REAVER DROP FTW (in PvT that is)

Bisu style for PvZ
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ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
June 14 2007 12:58 GMT
#14
Macro/multitasking mostly, TvZ does require a lot of micro though
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 13:00:06
June 14 2007 12:59 GMT
#15
Ehhh hard to say. A lot of maps these days it seems like it turns into a macro game whether you like it or not. I guess i'd say i'm a macro player. MY micro doesn't suck or anything but my big army control needs a lot of improvement, PvT especially.
Person514cs
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1004 Posts
June 14 2007 13:10 GMT
#16
Timing is more important.
Because you need to know when to micro or macro. Whoring workers all game or not making enough workers is all relative to your opponent.

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CowGoMoo
Profile Joined December 2006
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 13:15:53
June 14 2007 13:15 GMT
#17
Depends on how I feel like playing, sometimes all micro, sometimes all macro. The hard part is trying to do both at once o.o

my preference is micro but it usually loses me all my PvT games on most maps vs decent opponents :/
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
June 14 2007 13:17 GMT
#18
I've always been more of a timing person with balanced micro/macro.
NaDazpwnz3r
Profile Joined April 2007
United States111 Posts
June 14 2007 13:18 GMT
#19
TvZ lurk pwntage w00t!! it makes u look pro=)
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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
June 14 2007 13:32 GMT
#20
Macro ftw!
Well actually, mid to late game mostly i sit in my base clicking at unit producing structures and clicking at the minimap -_-'
60 APM doesn't really allow you to spread the actino around.
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Morzas
Profile Joined August 2005
United States387 Posts
June 14 2007 13:50 GMT
#21
Micro, but to clarify, I suck at StarCraft.
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
June 14 2007 13:52 GMT
#22
I macro with absolute no micro what so ever.

Thats how I always lose PvP and PvZ and sometimes PvT
pOOwarrior-
Profile Joined January 2007
United States518 Posts
June 14 2007 13:53 GMT
#23
I suck at both micro and macro, but I guess I am more reliant on my macro to try to beat the other guy.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
June 14 2007 13:56 GMT
#24
Micro early games. Macro late games.
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rick the dangerous
Profile Joined April 2004
Turkey90 Posts
June 14 2007 14:08 GMT
#25
my macro sucks but my micro sucks worse T_T....
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
June 14 2007 14:20 GMT
#26
Micro ^^
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
June 14 2007 14:31 GMT
#27
Micro. its more fun!
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 14:33:27
June 14 2007 14:32 GMT
#28
Im horrible but my macro is better than my micro.
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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 15:36:01
June 14 2007 15:34 GMT
#29
i suck at both...but i usually just win games by macro (like 2-3 games total T_T)...
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SunKistOranGeSoDa
Profile Joined May 2007
United States588 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 16:10:48
June 14 2007 16:04 GMT
#30
my micro isnt that good. but my macro is pretty good. only real good micro i can do is mutalisk and dragoons.but the weird thing is my main race is T. my apm is around 180 TvP 250 TvZ 140TvT.I love macro in PvT. i go 14nexus in like 70% of the game against T(even though you are screwed if T's build is not a cheesy build). But, I haven't played in like more than 3 months now.
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 14 2007 16:35 GMT
#31
my macro really needs work -_-
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28743 Posts
June 14 2007 16:41 GMT
#32
i used to be mad micro oriented but now that I started playing again my style has gotten revamped a little.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 14 2007 16:49 GMT
#33
Simple micro:
Like dropping 4 DTs into an undefended mineral line and let them do the work. Or atk move my goon army while managing my 2 shuttles for zlot bomb.
Pulling units back abit before storm in PvZ helps, storms on the further back hydra while flanking with zealots helps, drops in route of peon escape route w/ reaver helps.

I don't pull super apm micro, I rather take my take to set up the attack properly, and that leaves me with more time to tend to my horrible micro and maybe some other harasses.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
June 14 2007 17:01 GMT
#34
macro . I'm learning to micro in TvZ now ...
em.and.m
Profile Joined August 2006
633 Posts
June 14 2007 17:16 GMT
#35
Micro 100%

I have no MACRO
EsbenPM
Profile Joined April 2006
Denmark364 Posts
June 14 2007 17:24 GMT
#36
Well i suck badly at Starcraft. But i think if i am anything i am macro, since i often just wait for my opponent to attack me, and then i if i defend then i will slowly attack since my control is quite bad.
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born-to-porn
Profile Joined January 2004
Denmark400 Posts
June 14 2007 17:36 GMT
#37
Economy really isn't my thing. I'm more into dedicating all my effort into directly killing, obstructing and harrassing my opponent until he simply leaves in disgust. That makes me a micro player, right?
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 14 2007 17:53 GMT
#38
macro by far
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
June 14 2007 18:27 GMT
#39
Definitely macro, although my micro isn't like horrible or anything.
Dendra
Profile Joined July 2006
Croatia801 Posts
June 14 2007 18:33 GMT
#40
On June 14 2007 21:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
depends on matchup

ZvT/ZvZ - Microooooooooooooooooo!
ZvP - 1sz2sz3sz4sz5su6su7su8su9sz0sz
1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a

actually only zvz is micro oriented even zvt can be played heavily on macro.
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Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 19:42:43
June 14 2007 19:41 GMT
#41
Much more Micro than Macro, as a Zerg. That's why I'll never be a gosu, but I don't want to. Playing pure macro just seems stupid and boring to me. I want to utilize my units to the fullest, and control them in each battle. Even in late game. My style is a lot like July's or Yell0w's traditional style: low economy, micro intensive, aggressive. It doesn't work as good anymore as it did a few years back, but I don't care. I don't play often anyway, but when I do it's fun to win playing like that.
SunnYPianO
Profile Joined June 2007
United States37 Posts
June 14 2007 22:03 GMT
#42
definitely micro, early-mid game
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-14 22:34:24
June 14 2007 22:32 GMT
#43
On June 15 2007 03:33 Dendra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2007 21:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
depends on matchup

ZvT/ZvZ - Microooooooooooooooooo!
ZvP - 1sz2sz3sz4sz5su6su7su8su9sz0sz
1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a

actually only zvz is micro oriented even zvt can be played heavily on macro.


I can see your point but I see where he is coming from too. I used to be a Z player but I switched to protoss because ZvT I got raped so horribly hard by a decent T player that can micro vs lurkers (my lurk/ling micro was awful). And late game microing with swarm constantly casting? Thats heavy on the micro for sure.
_Grazze_
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
834 Posts
June 14 2007 22:37 GMT
#44
I'm 90 % Macro.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
June 14 2007 22:40 GMT
#45
both equal
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
June 14 2007 23:51 GMT
#46
micro

2on2. My P ally more or less suicides all his lots at the enemy protoss ramp to let me sneak 8 speedlings up his ramp, and the game will more or less be decided by how much damage I manage to do with them. Ahhh, the thrill!
MyCrow
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)248 Posts
June 15 2007 00:07 GMT
#47
Micro. ^^
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
June 15 2007 00:24 GMT
#48
100% 1 base micro based player with high apm
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Unforgiven_ve
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Venezuela1232 Posts
June 15 2007 00:24 GMT
#49
what about "Both" ?
:)
wXs.Havok
Profile Joined October 2006
Argentina529 Posts
June 15 2007 00:40 GMT
#50
micro
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PoP-sicle
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada418 Posts
June 15 2007 00:59 GMT
#51
depend on much army I got ... when is like 1-2-3 i prefer to micro but when my control are full i tend to macro oO;;

what micro i like the most : vulture!!! vulture killing probe, vulture mine, vulture sneaking, vulture harassing

vult rock
Tusk
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada427 Posts
June 15 2007 01:16 GMT
#52
Neither

BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
June 15 2007 01:20 GMT
#53
I have pretty good micro, but my macro really sucks I have a tendency to forget to build units and supply depots. Usually if I don't win the game in the first 15 minutes I probably won't win it at all.
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
June 15 2007 02:48 GMT
#54
Macro player 4life~
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PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
June 15 2007 03:24 GMT
#55
macro... just because with that is enough to beat my friends. 0 micro or strategy usually...
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
June 15 2007 03:26 GMT
#56
Im not very good at either, but I focus more on the micro.
Moonlight Shadow
pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5398 Posts
June 15 2007 03:28 GMT
#57
Macro if I'm teaching/learning
Micro if I'm trying to win
Macro if I'm trying to FE
Micro if an ob is present

And I love how Rek has a different perspective on everything. "Attack Move" haha nice.
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tagi09
Profile Joined June 2007
United States10 Posts
June 15 2007 11:01 GMT
#58
On June 15 2007 12:26 useless wrote:
Im not very good at either, but I focus more on the micro.


Ditto, good to know I'm not the only one . It bothers me how when I overly focus on micro, I let my mineral/gas count get too high. Lots of work to do.
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
June 15 2007 11:19 GMT
#59
If you don't micro ZvP you'll get raped by someone who is good at using storm...
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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
June 15 2007 11:57 GMT
#60
Micro, according to Last Romantic

wow, this is very even o.O
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Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
June 15 2007 11:58 GMT
#61
Macro, i almost FE in all my games now.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 15 2007 12:22 GMT
#62
On June 15 2007 03:33 Dendra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2007 21:38 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
depends on matchup

ZvT/ZvZ - Microooooooooooooooooo!
ZvP - 1sz2sz3sz4sz5su6su7su8su9sz0sz
1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a

actually only zvz is micro oriented even zvt can be played heavily on macro.


im sure it can be, but my zvt style is very ling heavy, and i tend to abuse muta hit and run, because my muta control is actually decent
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Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
June 15 2007 12:55 GMT
#63
certian matchups require more macro or more micro and others more macro. also as others said, ealy game you should be able able to be microing as good as pusan ;x
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25993 Posts
June 15 2007 13:07 GMT
#64
God i Treasure Macro.
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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
June 15 2007 13:17 GMT
#65
My priorities (highest to lowest) for Protoss:

macro
game control
strategy (includes timing and such)
micro

I find micro to be ineffective, as in it is time consuming. It's not that my micro sucks. In fact, my micro is better than my micro. Most of the time, microing is just being cute, not a game deciding factor. Yes, July's muta micro alone can win games but he's a progamer and I'm not. Also, I don't play Zerg
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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
June 15 2007 13:23 GMT
#66
I disagree, against a strong zerg player in PvZ, you need an equally good micro/macro to manage it all. Storm is crucial, can save you from the crushing ling drops, or miss them entirely, and leave your base in rubble.

Only kind of hardcore macro play in PvZ i can imagine, is the mujuk 2 base into 150/169 pop, then double expo. replace the remaining factor with high tech units according to zerg's, but even then, you have to be real careful with what you storm/drop at.

I also find early game scenarios, where micro is absolutely crucial and macro is relatively the same for when both players start pumping units.
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-15 13:34:39
June 15 2007 13:33 GMT
#67
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Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-15 13:54:01
June 15 2007 13:53 GMT
#68
I'm saying that spending 2~3 seconds on micro, going back to macro, and back to the battle is my preference over babysitting my units for the full 10~15 seconds of micro.

Since you mentioned PvZ, I'll talk about my experiences with it. Usually, I send out my army and split them really fast so they have a 'larger surface area of attack.' Then I storm 2~3 times, go back to my gateways, and come back.

Early game micro is 'easy.' I don't konw how else to put it. It's not that hard not to fuck up consindering zealots are the easiest basic units to micro.

I'm going to go on a little side rant here: I've heard about P players bitching about idiotic dragoons since forever but god damn. I really feel their pain now. Just yesterday, I played about 10 games on LAN and my dragoons got stuck in 3 games. They would not fucking move until I pressed hold and reissued the command.
('''(G_G/'''')
artofmagic
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
United States1951 Posts
June 15 2007 14:02 GMT
#69
micro.. though i'm bad at it
evolve or die
ChaosKnight
Profile Joined April 2007
United States819 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-15 15:14:51
June 15 2007 15:14 GMT
#70
I'm heavily macro oriented, but like any other macro player, I can have sudden micro awesomeness... of course, micro I consider awesome for myself sucks pretty bad.
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