EPTMouse / Keyboard now in 2019? - Page 2
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Trutaacz
Poland101 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10668 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10668 Posts
EDIT : Wow I haven't used a keyboard with a wrist wrest in a long time maybe 10+ years, and my APM jumped up 40/50+ due to this new keyboard / mouse, I think that is a solid investment. | ||
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QuadroX
386 Posts
Here's my observations: Best Mouse (small, lightweight, fingertip grip): 1. Zowie Mico, hands down. If you can find one - get one, they are very rare but don't spend more than $100 on it.  That's what I'm currently using atm and very happy about the choice.2. LMO clones: FKMini2 (can get it on Taobao via proxy website like yoybuy.com, thats how I got mine), CROAD M325 (ebay, looks promising, review: https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/ccyf1p/croad_m325_is_a_zowie_mico_clone_with_omron/), ABKO Hacker A400 (ebay, a little bit heavier, but zero issues with this mouse so far), NKEY MINI G007 (can get it on ebay, Zowie Mico clone actually, pretty good, but Mico is better). 3. Logitech G203/102/G-Pro or G305 Wireless (yes, it's good for gaming now) with light Energizer Ultimate Lithium AAA battery. All those three options are very good compared to anything else, and I switch between them from time to time. Best keyboard (reliable and cosistent, even weight, good build quality): 1. Leopold FC-750R/Filco Majestouch TKL with Cherry Brown switches. Zero issues, good build quality. Can also get Cherry Red switches with it. 2. CM Novatouch with topre-like switches or real topre if you have money for it. I used Plum boards but 35g feel too light, 45g is the best weight to my taste. 3. DT35 is overrated. It's a membrane keyboard. Means you don't have even weight on each key and as the time goes the membrane gets worse. Could get stiff or some keypresses register at different key travel distance. With mechanical or capasitive boards around I don't see any benefits at all. Also it's bulky with a numpad. | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
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Cheesefome
311 Posts
On July 29 2019 16:37 QuadroX wrote: I've spent a lot of time searching for the perfect keyboard + mouse combo. Here's my observations: Best Mouse (small, lightweight, fingertip grip): 1. Zowie Mico, hands down. If you can find one - get one, they are very rare but don't spend more than $100 on it. That's what I'm currently using atm and very happy about the choice.2. LMO clones: FKMini2 (can get it on Taobao via proxy website like yoybuy.com, thats how I got mine), CROAD M325 (ebay, looks promising, review: https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/ccyf1p/croad_m325_is_a_zowie_mico_clone_with_omron/), ABKO Hacker A400 (ebay, a little bit heavier, but zero issues with this mouse so far), NKEY MINI G007 (can get it on ebay, Zowie Mico clone actually, pretty good, but Mico is better). 3. Logitech G203/102/G-Pro or G305 Wireless (yes, it's good for gaming now) with light Energizer Ultimate Lithium AAA battery. All those three options are very good compared to anything else, and I switch between them from time to time. Best keyboard (reliable and cosistent, even weight, good build quality): 1. Leopold FC-750R/Filco Majestouch TKL with Cherry Brown switches. Zero issues, good build quality. Can also get Cherry Red switches with it. 2. CM Novatouch with topre-like switches or real topre if you have money for it. I used Plum boards but 35g feel too light, 45g is the best weight to my taste. 3. DT35 is overrated. It's a membrane keyboard. Means you don't have even weight on each key and as the time goes the membrane gets worse. Could get stiff or some keypresses register at different key travel distance. With mechanical or capasitive boards around I don't see any benefits at all. Also it's bulky with a numpad. I hate my nkey mini g007. Not because of the shell but because the buttons are wayyyyy to rough for my little hands. Mines been sitting there doing nothing, so if anyone is interested in buying it, i'd be willing to sell. I used it for a month and hasn't been touched since, that was on feb of this year. Works fine and has hyperglides on it. I tried sanding down the buttons from underneath the shell but that didn't seem to help. | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On July 29 2019 01:02 GGzerG wrote: Yeah that would be cool to hear and see a FP view of your keyboard in a game one time please add me/talk to me on discord. Discord: Scan#5181 | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
On July 29 2019 04:00 anXieTyTheBigBoy wrote: qsenn dt-35 for membrane, leopold fc750r for mechanical logitech g9x mouse. its the only way to play  Pro gearAccording to this many top SC2 pros (Innovation, Maru, Dark etc.) use Leopold FC700R (don't know difference between 750R). Seems like it's a good keyboard. Also true for G9X but AFAIK it's discontinued so harder to find. But I'm interested about what switches they prefer? Red is too light, you can miss type some keys. Blue is too loud and heavy to press, personally it feels/makes my hands tired faster and from what I read Blue switches are best for typing but not gaming (Same applies to MX Green Razer switches, I tried Blackwidow and felt same way). So Brown's or Black's should do the trick IMO. There are also MX Clears but I'm not experienced and also new Razer switches such as Yellow and Orange but they're hybrid between Reds and browns. | ||
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ciel123
12 Posts
On July 29 2019 22:24 outscar wrote: Pro gearAccording to this many top SC2 pros (Innovation, Maru, Dark etc.) use Leopold FC700R (don't know difference between 750R). Seems like it's a good keyboard. Also true for G9X but AFAIK it's discontinued so harder to find. But I'm interested about what switches they prefer? Red is too light, you can miss type some keys. Blue is too loud and heavy to press, personally it feels/makes my hands tired faster and from what I read Blue switches are best for typing but not gaming (Same applies to MX Green Razer switches, I tried Blackwidow and felt same way). So Brown's or Black's should do the trick IMO. There are also MX Clears but I'm not experienced and also new Razer switches such as Yellow and Orange but they're hybrid between Reds and browns. It's a matter of preference, you'll find find pros using all the most common ones. Innovation uses reds, Solar uses blues, Stats uses Razer greens, I heard Soulkey uses browns... | ||
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TT1
Canada9997 Posts
On July 30 2019 03:26 ciel123 wrote: It's a matter of preference, you'll find find pros using all the most common ones. Innovation uses reds, Solar uses blues, Stats uses Razer greens, I heard Soulkey uses browns... I can't speak for others but imo mech keyboards aren't great for BW. They generally have more travel distance so cycling through keys takes more time and effort. There's way more hotkey cycling in BW as opposed to SC2 so you wanna have a comfortable membraney keyboard, it allows you to swap between keys quicker/more effortlessly. | ||
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LV-Hellscream
Great Britain154 Posts
so i managed to find replacement but click didn't work as good as on my previous mouse. i managed to do over 400 apm with it and my hands didn't get tired. I can't use the current replacement mouse even though it suppose to be same. it's just not as good on click. currently i switched to Razer Death Adder (transformers edition) that feels bit better than normal death adder on click, also it is gloss so fingers stick on it more or less. I wouldn't say it gives me best performance in terms of muta micro and stuff, but i managed to beat firebathero with it in 2014 and it does over 300 apm. it is good if you want to play just for fun. I had razer starcraft 2 spectre which did okay job in everything but it wasn't as comfortable. and i ended up selling it, although i had it for a while and won few tournaments with it. I am still looking for perfect mouse, i feel like i suck and can't perfom my muta micro at my best. I would like to try logitech G203 as people recommend. my keyboard hasn't changed Qpad MK 80. u can do just anything with that keyboard even kill a person... although i use mostly my laptop keyboard as i am never in one place. Conclusion MY keyboard still works and i keep the MK80 qpad in 2019 Mouse i'd like to try logitech! People please if you read my boring long post. recommend me good mouse for muta micro. so i can' click ultra fast and chase mutas after muta easily | ||
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TT1
Canada9997 Posts
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Gomas
Poland311 Posts
Edit: for keyboards, although I play SC2, I can for sure after using a blue switch filco from 2010 to 2018, and switching to a red switch leopold last year that the blues are fun to type with, maybe, but they are much worse for gaming for me than reds. I think inno went through the same transition.\ When it comes to mousepads I recently switched to a Razer Goliathus Speed and it feelsgoodman. Much better than some steelseries qck I had before. | ||
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QuadroX
386 Posts
Has anybody compared MX Reds to MX Browns for Brood War? I've never tried Reds so far because of no tactility at all. I consider giving them another shot. | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1972 Posts
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Cheesefome
311 Posts
On August 06 2019 01:21 QuadroX wrote: Agree that very very first Razer Abyssus is pretty good (avoid the new ones). It was not on my list but it's right next to G203/GPro/G305. Has anybody compared MX Reds to MX Browns for Brood War? I've never tried Reds so far because of no tactility at all. I consider giving them another shot. IDK about from browns to reds but from blues to reds was personally one of the best decisions i made when it came to gaming. Browns will be my next purchase, i like the sound but hopefully it doesn't fatigue my fingers like blues do. | ||
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Cheesefome
311 Posts
On August 06 2019 02:04 Garrl wrote: Are mechanical keyboards actually good for RTSes? Does the extra actuation pressure required not fatigue your hand more? Blue's did for me. Reds are perfect for sc cause you are constantly smashing keys. Most of your gameplay is smashing keys so I think it's smartest to go with something lighter like red switches. Noticed that blue switches were much more satisfying whenever I played first person shooters, or mmo's but like i said for sc they burnt out my fingers quick. | ||
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Gomas
Poland311 Posts
On August 06 2019 01:21 QuadroX wrote: Agree that very very first Razer Abyssus is pretty good (avoid the new ones). It was not on my list but it's right next to G203/GPro/G305. Why are the new abyssus bad? I just got an abyssus essential to compare to my GPro. | ||
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QuadroX
386 Posts
On August 06 2019 19:34 Gomas wrote: Why are the new abyssus bad? I just got an abyssus essential to compare to my GPro. It's all subjective and personal opinion. I started hating Razer build quality since then. First line of mice were very good (mice such as Diamondback Plasma/Diamondback 3G, Krait 2006, Salmosa (except for squeakiness), very first Abyssus). Then their quality went down, mice break like in 3 months, have double click issues, software craps out and stuff like that. Now Razer is just all about RGB crap with huge price tag for the brand. Even your mentioned Abyssus essential does have RGB lightening, requires Razer Synapse software that connects to the cloud to only let you change your DPI settings. How cool is that? Providing it has the same build quality with better sensor (with no DPI switch without drivers for just $50) go for it. Shape looks the same. | ||
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Cheesefome
311 Posts
Logitech is the way to go. | ||
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