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Maphack Player in Rank Game 19.06.26

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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 28 2019 06:35 GMT
#1
His ID: llllIlIIIllIllI (BWChart to extract his ID as a text file)
06.28: His ID is deleted(probably he didn't like the stats)
Battle Tag: 비밀
Alternative ID: barcode, 2639MMR 113W 59L Rank.21
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Here's what happened during my game against him.
Probably some people will argue that "he got lucky to do this build opening", but in high level games, this stuff doesn't even exist and taking a huge risk(1/3 chance)

Center proxy 7 Pylon 7 Gateway does exist, but opponent's natural 6 Pylon 6 Gateway is just lol...

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Is there a free website that I can upload replay file?
If people want the replay, I can upload it.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Dewaltoss
Profile Joined October 2015
102 Posts
June 28 2019 07:14 GMT
#2
I played vs this guy couple times, let me try to find those games to see if he did something weird vs me.
Actually we need a normal working reporting system, i'm tired of losing a bunch of games against SCVstuck rush lol
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
June 28 2019 07:30 GMT
#3
old system: lobby games, cheater will get be ostracized and avoided pretty quickly, community admins will ban him swiftly too.

new system: forced to play against hacker in matchmaking system. non existent anticheat, blizzard extremely lackadaisical and slow in banning them.

if im a hacker i would love bw rm
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
June 28 2019 09:39 GMT
#4
On June 28 2019 16:30 ggsimida wrote:
old system: lobby games, cheater will get be ostracized and avoided pretty quickly, community admins will ban him swiftly too.

new system: forced to play against hacker in matchmaking system. non existent anticheat, blizzard extremely lackadaisical and slow in banning them.

if im a hacker i would love bw rm

sad but true

And this is valid for anything that is Blizzard centric and not community based

I hate Blizzard for centralizing all their efforts and leaving everything on its own. And because there is no way for the community to get involved we have nothing to do except whining and cursing blizzard for their approach that inevitably will fuck us over :/
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
June 28 2019 10:42 GMT
#5
P.S. Scan - you can upload replays to http://bwreplays.com
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 28 2019 11:05 GMT
#6
On June 28 2019 19:42 BlueStar wrote:
P.S. Scan - you can upload replays to http://bwreplays.com


Thank you and here's the replay.
http://bwreplays.com/186af
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 28 2019 12:50 GMT
#7
On June 28 2019 15:35 LaStScan wrote:
Center proxy 7 Pylon 7 Gateway does exist, but opponent's natural 6 Pylon 6 Gateway is just lol...

To be honest, I've done similar things blindly on 3 player maps when I feel like cheesing because it's 50/50.

But you're obviously playing against a different level of player AND on a 4 player map.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
June 28 2019 14:04 GMT
#8
On June 28 2019 16:30 ggsimida wrote:
old system: lobby games, cheater will get be ostracized and avoided pretty quickly, community admins will ban him swiftly too.

new system: forced to play against hacker in matchmaking system. non existent anticheat, blizzard extremely lackadaisical and slow in banning them.

if im a hacker i would love bw rm

I agree I think lobby games is the better system tbh
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 28 2019 14:05 GMT
#9
Im interested if dewalt will find similar suspicious reps vs that player.
Broodwar for life!
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada759 Posts
June 28 2019 16:08 GMT
#10
Lmaooo we’ll see how long this goes on for before blizzard does anything. Don’t count on anything being fixed quickly or correctly at this point though.
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 28 2019 18:40 GMT
#11
I found it perplexing when Scan reported a hack last time and some people thought it's “just a custom game problem“. No ofc it's not! People create cheats with ladder in mind!
Broodwar for life!
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
June 28 2019 20:43 GMT
#12
I think that Icona Pop - I Love It song's chorus describes perfectly what I'm thinking about that issue of playing against mh users on ladder.

#PeopleWithProblems
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3677 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 01:52:35
June 29 2019 01:52 GMT
#13
I know this wouldn't fix this stuff for everyone, but I still don't understand why they didn't turn Fish into the offical Battle.net Korea gateway and let them continue to operate like they did before RM. They'd be very quick to ban hackers. Hell they could have reached out to the ShieldBattery team and let them operate the EU/US gateways.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10122 Posts
June 29 2019 02:14 GMT
#14
On June 29 2019 10:52 Lorch wrote:
I know this wouldn't fix this stuff for everyone, but I still don't understand why they didn't turn Fish into the offical Battle.net Korea gateway and let them continue to operate like they did before RM. They'd be very quick to ban hackers. Hell they could have reached out to the ShieldBattery team and let them operate the EU/US gateways.

Because then it wouldn't be wrangled back under Blizzard's control IMO.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
June 29 2019 16:09 GMT
#15
Oh, people still mention this stuff referring to an irrelevant/confusing term called map hack ?
As I've stated before the CoachAI can do this on 1.16.

Buy why not provide some useful info to Blizzard/the community instead ?

User was banned for this post.
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-29 20:05:02
June 29 2019 20:02 GMT
#16
In theory, it's possible to counter map hack in RTS by making the information that's in the fog of war only available to the server? xD but it could also come with some problems (??)
generally admins covering reports works just fine afaik, but usually blizzard doesn't do it. Blizzard has a habit of *saying* they take cheating seriously blabla but not take action, just image management^^
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
June 29 2019 20:40 GMT
#17
Sad seeing players with this high level (if he can compete with Scan and reach top 20 on ladder but of course via maphacking which still a thing because BW is APM/mechanically demanding game) wasting their talent on this bullshit. They need to be traited as same as they matchfixed: they just stole pros time and not against lying.

Ah, I miss Fish soOOOOO much. It even magically allowed to use 1.16.1 and RM at the same time before shut down... Now we only got 3-4 devs left on Blizz who gonna push 1 patch per half year.
sunbeams are never made like me...
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden512 Posts
June 29 2019 22:22 GMT
#18
On June 30 2019 05:02 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
In theory, it's possible to counter map hack in RTS by making the information that's in the fog of war only available to the server? xD but it could also come with some problems (??)
generally admins covering reports works just fine afaik, but usually blizzard doesn't do it. Blizzard has a habit of *saying* they take cheating seriously blabla but not take action, just image management^^


send an email to blizzard engineers asap
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
June 29 2019 22:23 GMT
#19
On June 30 2019 07:22 A.Alm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2019 05:02 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
In theory, it's possible to counter map hack in RTS by making the information that's in the fog of war only available to the server? xD but it could also come with some problems (??)
generally admins covering reports works just fine afaik, but usually blizzard doesn't do it. Blizzard has a habit of *saying* they take cheating seriously blabla but not take action, just image management^^


send an email to blizzard engineers asap

^^ no
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
June 30 2019 01:41 GMT
#20
On June 30 2019 01:09 Moataz wrote:
Oh, people still mention this stuff referring to an irrelevant/confusing term called map hack ?
As I've stated before the CoachAI can do this on 1.16.

Buy why not provide some useful info to Blizzard/the community instead ?


uhh what?

using a third party tool to see through fog of war is the definition of a maphack which coincidentally is literally what you say your CoachAI does, the only good thing about it is that it only works with 1.16.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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