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Klaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Ireland334 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 06:07:17
June 01 2007 00:47 GMT
#1
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Poll: Too much shouting?
(Vote): Yes, more analysis please
(Vote): No, the balance is right
(Vote): No, but we want more analysis also
(Vote): Yes, don't ever commentate again!


I've got the commentary bug also! Here are the latest ones.

Savior vs Iloveoov - Daum OSL Ro16 Week 1 - Python

Hswain vs Darkelf - Daum OSL Ro16 Week 1 - Hitch Hiker

TT vs Oversky - GomTv MSL S2 Ro 16 week 1 - Python

Iloveoov vs FBH GomTV MSL S2 Ro16 Week 1 Python

Reach vs Justin Daum OSL Wk4 - Python

Unfortunately I had to do a couple of these over because they didn't record correctly the first time, so if I sound hoarse near the end or jaded that is the reason. Imagine having to do a 30 min commentary all over again

I started out originally with a series of commentaries on the OSL Season 3 semi-final match-up between savior and Iris which can be found :

http://www.sc2.org/Blogs/tabid/64/EntryID/60/Default.aspx

I do feel that in the latest ones I'm shouting a bit too much and not giving enough analysis of the game, do let me know if that's the case and I'll do my best to tone it down.

I've only started out so I appreciate any advice in helping me to get better at this.

Thanks!
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 01:06:50
June 01 2007 01:02 GMT
#2
Are you Irish (I wanna know before I dl, because I like the Irish accent -.-)?

Edit: oh it's google video, not dl
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 01:07:34
June 01 2007 01:04 GMT
#3
Ok, you are definitely Irish ^^
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Klaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Ireland334 Posts
June 01 2007 01:07 GMT
#4
i do? lol
mR.Sephiroth
Profile Joined April 2005
Germany296 Posts
June 01 2007 02:19 GMT
#5
nice,far better than this pubby boy^^
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
June 01 2007 02:23 GMT
#6
I liked it ^^;
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
June 01 2007 02:25 GMT
#7
Sexy~

I liked the screaming, however: looks like I'm too used to hearing the Korean commentators screaming :O
^-^
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
June 01 2007 02:25 GMT
#8
Pretty fucken impressive. So much enthusiams.

I recently tried doing that myself and I know it's not easy at all.
Aside from the occasional stutter (due to you being a bit nervous I guess) it was really really good.
A lot of insight and nice to listen to.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 01 2007 02:28 GMT
#9
SCV terran haha
nice
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
June 01 2007 02:40 GMT
#10
I've only seen the savior vs iloveoov so far and i gotta say it was pretty damn good, i usually don't like english commentaries because it sounds so.. hmm.. weak and forced, but this was seriously nice commenting.

Also it was fun to finally here someone say "iloveoov" in english, always wondered if people pronounced it "oh oh vee" or "oooooh'v"

Anyway, great job!
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
June 01 2007 02:41 GMT
#11
Savior vs oOv was excellently done.
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Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
June 01 2007 02:51 GMT
#12
On June 01 2007 11:41 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
Savior vs oOv was excellently done.


haha yeah I just finished that and that lubricant line was killing me.

That's what went through my head basically every single time I've seen SaviOr play against oov.
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 03:08:12
June 01 2007 03:07 GMT
#13
On June 01 2007 11:51 Cpt Obvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2007 11:41 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
Savior vs oOv was excellently done.


haha yeah I just finished that and that lubricant line was killing me.

That's what went through my head basically every single time I've seen SaviOr play against oov.

I thought he said lubricant something, but I didn't want to play it back b/c my comp restarts the whole vid sometimes. Wasn't too sure he said it was a bit random. :p
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
allowicious
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States972 Posts
June 01 2007 03:07 GMT
#14
very impressive commentary
i thought it was well done, gj ^^
lalalalala~~~
Dariush
Profile Joined April 2007
Romania330 Posts
June 01 2007 03:15 GMT
#15
Great job man.
Mango
Profile Joined July 2006
Belgium522 Posts
June 01 2007 03:15 GMT
#16
Only checked Savior vs oov but a really nice job you did here, love your commenting!
Keep up the good work
polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
June 01 2007 03:16 GMT
#17
well done, i enjoyed it. Seems like you follow the scene and the matchs pretty close, predicting that zergling rush by OverSky against TT.
stack
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada348 Posts
June 01 2007 03:23 GMT
#18
watched the savior oo-v game
was a great game and the commentary was topnotch!
good job
life is short, dont F it up
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7227 Posts
June 01 2007 03:24 GMT
#19
these guys would be the best commentators from ireland by far







podge and rodge are the shit
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Bob123
Profile Joined October 2006
Korea (North)259 Posts
June 01 2007 03:29 GMT
#20
Only watched savior vs oov, but I think it's a very good commentary! One of the best I've heard.
stack
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada348 Posts
June 01 2007 03:30 GMT
#21
a little critism tho, well one
maybe better recording mic or something?
its a lil distorted and scratchy when I turn it up enough to hear well
life is short, dont F it up
Klaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Ireland334 Posts
June 01 2007 03:33 GMT
#22
thanks for the encouragement and the feedback. I'm definately gonna keep doing it cause I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Plan to do a couple more tonight or tomorrow.
I-Emerge
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States435 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 03:39:26
June 01 2007 03:35 GMT
#23
Good job!

I liked the Savior one the best. You had some good one liners that were thrown in there once the game became obvious. Perhaps if you slowed down a beat when there is no action and speed up instead of shouting during the action, it would help to producing a more strealined commentary. This means with less stuttering and better control of content vs play by play. What I am saying is that possibly replacing shouting with an increase in tempo when speaking creates an illusion of increased excitiement.

Lastly, I found my self eager to hear what you would say during the most exciting parts. Although, too often I didn't hear complete ideas due to the rapid play by play style. Perhaps within the play by play you could be slightly more selective and mention the most critical parts of the action. Well, all in all I am very impressed. I know that this type of thing is very difficult and you have shown great potiential. I think you have shattered many peoples expectations with your work. I am going to look for these on YouTube. If they are not there please put them their so I can add them to my playylists. I am sure that others would like to save them too. Thanks!.

---I-Emerge
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
June 01 2007 03:35 GMT
#24
first two were excelent! i saw the first one before with korean talking, and now i had a few more insights (when saviour lured ilovoov away from his initial sunken line for instance).

nice, tx!
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
June 01 2007 03:40 GMT
#25
yay more commentary =D
HaiVan
Profile Joined April 2005
Bulgaria1698 Posts
June 01 2007 03:56 GMT
#26
I approve this message.
Listen to The Special One
stack
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 04:02:52
June 01 2007 04:00 GMT
#27
omg i hate tvt but oov vs FBH....was so EXCITING!
watch this game guys!
o anyone know what FBH said at the end of the game?
life is short, dont F it up
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
June 01 2007 04:02 GMT
#28
haha sweet, also a big savior fan. you actually show good understanding of gameplay and strategy as well, so that's really awesome
TehKris
Profile Joined October 2006
Norway322 Posts
June 01 2007 04:22 GMT
#29
Ye, what did FBH said in the end? Fucking amazing TvT, maybe the best I've seen =)
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Presony-Boy
Profile Joined April 2007
Israel812 Posts
June 01 2007 04:23 GMT
#30
its HwaSIn not hswain
gj for making these
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
June 01 2007 04:51 GMT
#31
Very nice! I liked them

On June 01 2007 12:40 azndsh wrote:
yay more commentary =D
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chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
June 01 2007 05:21 GMT
#32
great commentaries
thank you very much
jeremy clarkson = god
Klaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Ireland334 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 06:07:57
June 01 2007 06:07 GMT
#33
Here is another

Reach vs Justin Daum OSL Wk4 - Python
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
June 01 2007 06:24 GMT
#34
On June 01 2007 15:07 Klaz wrote:
Here is another

Reach vs Justin Daum OSL Wk4 - Python


Wow, you are just churning these out. Great. ^.^
abandonallhope
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Sweden563 Posts
June 01 2007 06:37 GMT
#35
Very nice! I loved it! You seem to have decent knowledge about the players and Starcraft overall, very enjoyable.

Keep it up!
Tetsuo_AKIRA
Profile Joined March 2007
United States38 Posts
June 01 2007 06:47 GMT
#36
Excellent running commentary!
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Zor222
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United Kingdom88 Posts
June 01 2007 06:56 GMT
#37
Yes! I'm converted. Please continue with the commentaries
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 07:25:34
June 01 2007 07:07 GMT
#38
its very nice.

you talk very fast;)

one thing though, this way you commentate now is for people who cannot watch the video. It would be perfect for audio only matches..(where u have shoutcast but no videocast) kind of when u listen to soccer @ radio instead of watching it on TV. When you're watching on TV you dont have to comment in detail everything that happens, for example when someone is repairing their tanks..

Im not saying its bad at all, its very good accually but maybe you should try to keep the details A LITTLE lower and focuss more on feeling and talking about what they should do and not do from here etc.

I dont know how to explain it.. just watch the difference from commentators @ radio and commentators @ TV and i think you'll get what i mean.

i hope you make more of these, and also hope you will shoutcast at some showmatches for example gg.net or something;) atm we only have german shoutcasts...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 07:51:51
June 01 2007 07:38 GMT
#39
haha i liked: "and now this game is just getting completely insane"

and also time 17:44 @ oov vs fbh

"That expansion is going to take some serious dmg, firebathero.. and oov is forced to use his scvs to fight again, but firebathero eh iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis tank are getting taken out coz..."

"oov is dropping 6 dropships worth of units into fbh's expansion, so thats very bad news for fbh" ^^


that show alot of enthusiasm;) its great i think.. i laughed so hard;)
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
humblegar
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Norway883 Posts
June 01 2007 07:43 GMT
#40
Great stuff, maybe I can lure more people into watching vods now, they all think I'm crazy listen to the Koreans

A couple of things if I may:
- small pauses are allowed, don't feel that you have to be 3 Koreans by yourself hehe.
- When positions are shown on the screen as "2" and "1" its probably a good idea to stick to those (oov vs fbh).
- You either need to adjust your settings or a better microphone in the long run.

Keep them coming!
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
June 01 2007 07:56 GMT
#41
Excellent! The only problem was with the microphone, it's too sensitive and your voice gets noticeably distorted when you speak louder.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
June 01 2007 08:00 GMT
#42
when u shoutcast, do you already know the results or is it live?
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
June 01 2007 08:09 GMT
#43
On June 01 2007 16:07 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
its very nice.

you talk very fast;)

one thing though, this way you commentate now is for people who cannot watch the video. It would be perfect for audio only matches..(where u have shoutcast but no videocast) kind of when u listen to soccer @ radio instead of watching it on TV. When you're watching on TV you dont have to comment in detail everything that happens, for example when someone is repairing their tanks..

Im not saying its bad at all, its very good accually but maybe you should try to keep the details A LITTLE lower and focuss more on feeling and talking about what they should do and not do from here etc.

I dont know how to explain it.. just watch the difference from commentators @ radio and commentators @ TV and i think you'll get what i mean.

i hope you make more of these, and also hope you will shoutcast at some showmatches for example gg.net or something;) atm we only have german shoutcasts...


I'm going to disagree with this. I think commentating on everything that happens is also useful when you want to explain the strategies behind the gameplay.

Anyway, just watched the Oov vs FBH game. You have absolutely awesome commentary. That's all I can say.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 08:13:55
June 01 2007 08:13 GMT
#44
haha reach vs justin: "justin casy[name] bifrost or whatever gay stupid retarded name he has decided to call himself this time..." was so fun;)
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 08:16:22
June 01 2007 08:15 GMT
#45
On June 01 2007 17:09 azndsh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2007 16:07 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
its very nice.

you talk very fast;)

one thing though, this way you commentate now is for people who cannot watch the video. It would be perfect for audio only matches..(where u have shoutcast but no videocast) kind of when u listen to soccer @ radio instead of watching it on TV. When you're watching on TV you dont have to comment in detail everything that happens, for example when someone is repairing their tanks..

Im not saying its bad at all, its very good accually but maybe you should try to keep the details A LITTLE lower and focuss more on feeling and talking about what they should do and not do from here etc.

I dont know how to explain it.. just watch the difference from commentators @ radio and commentators @ TV and i think you'll get what i mean.

i hope you make more of these, and also hope you will shoutcast at some showmatches for example gg.net or something;) atm we only have german shoutcasts...


I'm going to disagree with this. I think commentating on everything that happens is also useful when you want to explain the strategies behind the gameplay.

Anyway, just watched the Oov vs FBH game. You have absolutely awesome commentary. That's all I can say.


yeah but if you talk about every little detail that happens there is no time to explain the strategies behind the gameplay.. no time to say much else, abut cut back on the details to talk more about other things.. sry for many posts im abit tierd..
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
June 01 2007 08:52 GMT
#46
I absolutely love them. I really can't think of anything I'd like you to change except maybe a bit better quality audio. I find them tasteful, entertaining and educational.

I love the play-by-play style. I feel like I can be working or writing something and listen to it like the radio, and still be entertained.

Definitely keep it up! I wanna watch 'em all!
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 01 2007 08:56 GMT
#47
your work is pretty good, hope you do more in teh futureq
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Jaddzilla
Profile Joined April 2006
United States111 Posts
June 01 2007 09:03 GMT
#48
Wow.. Really really nice job...
exihea
Profile Joined November 2006
United States413 Posts
June 01 2007 09:11 GMT
#49
much better than the Screaming Boy (SB)
Arget
Profile Joined May 2007
United States87 Posts
June 01 2007 09:12 GMT
#50
work on the ums and fillers, other than that, great job commentating
sAviOr fan!
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
June 01 2007 09:34 GMT
#51
"Geezus Savior use some lube!"

Nice job man.. keep em coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great vods!!!!!
I-Emerge
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States435 Posts
June 01 2007 09:40 GMT
#52
On June 01 2007 16:07 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
its very nice.

you talk very fast;)

one thing though, this way you commentate now is for people who cannot watch the video. It would be perfect for audio only matches..(where u have shoutcast but no videocast) kind of when u listen to soccer @ radio instead of watching it on TV. When you're watching on TV you dont have to comment in detail everything that happens, for example when someone is repairing their tanks..

Im not saying its bad at all, its very good accually but maybe you should try to keep the details A LITTLE lower and focuss more on feeling and talking about what they should do and not do from here etc.

I dont know how to explain it.. just watch the difference from commentators @ radio and commentators @ TV and i think you'll get what i mean.

i hope you make more of these, and also hope you will shoutcast at some showmatches for example gg.net or something;) atm we only have german shoutcasts...

You basicaly said one of the point from my post which shows it is relevent to a extent.

---I-Emerge
A punch is just a punch. Then a punch becomes more than a punch. A punch becomes just a punch again.
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
June 01 2007 09:43 GMT
#53
really nice man
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-01 10:45:53
June 01 2007 10:13 GMT
#54
To sum up how I feel: If you were to continue, I'd stop watching progames live and wait for your versions to come out to watch instead.

Extraordinary job.

Edit:

It's really awesome when you actually understand what the commentator is actually saying for once. Again, you've done an incredible job thus far. I will agree with others about the microphone issue, but it's pretty much ignorable in relation with the content. Keep it up!

Please. XD


To Superiorwolf: Don't feel bad if you're reading all this praise and feeling underappreciated now. You did a decent job before and you were part of what set this commentating frenzy off and, despite the outburst on B.net, you've shown yourself to be a good sport in general. So, keep it up and keep learning strategically. Maybe you'll be in the running at the top for SCII.
Think. :)
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
June 01 2007 10:33 GMT
#55
very good commentry man :D i only watched the first one cos i dont have much time, but it was one of the better english commentarrys ive ever heard
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
June 01 2007 13:02 GMT
#56
I liked the mantoss vs Justin one. Very biased ^^;
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viejo
Profile Joined May 2005
Chile49 Posts
June 01 2007 13:34 GMT
#57
You are very good commenting
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
June 01 2007 14:13 GMT
#58
I also only watched the oov vs saviour game, great commentry. Instead of telling us what we see on the screen like most people do, you tell us abouts strategy which is much more interestign.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
June 01 2007 15:15 GMT
#59
These are really good!
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Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
June 01 2007 15:36 GMT
#60
hahaha nj you sound a lil like a professor
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
June 01 2007 17:26 GMT
#61
deserves a bump
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
June 01 2007 20:19 GMT
#62
wlwl is the English keys for 지지 (pronounced jiji).

FBH did not call iloveoov a cheater, hahaha. Otherwise I think you did a very good job. Reminds me a lot like that Irish football analyst.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
June 01 2007 20:28 GMT
#63
Wow, nice commentaries, I LOVE IT! I only listened to the oov vs Savior so far, will watch more at work.
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
June 02 2007 00:49 GMT
#64
you need either to fix your microphone/input or set the level of recording lower, i think you have quite a bit of gain.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
June 02 2007 00:58 GMT
#65
you're doing great but the vod quality is sorta weird.
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
June 02 2007 01:35 GMT
#66
damn wow oov lost so many scvs but still beat firebathero
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
June 02 2007 01:50 GMT
#67
On June 02 2007 05:28 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Wow, nice commentaries, I LOVE IT! I only listened to the oov vs Savior so far, will watch more at work.



...???
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
June 04 2007 14:16 GMT
#68
Nice commentaries.

I prefer googlevideos over youtube
#1 Terran hater
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
June 04 2007 16:41 GMT
#69
These are great, they remind me of TV football commentary, only with the frenzied pace of Starcraft :p.
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