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1.21.5 Patch Spawning Location Bug For Ladder

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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-17 17:54:59
April 17 2018 17:51 GMT
#1
Spawning locations are now fixed again after that distinguishable colors(for spectators).

If you are playing on Fighting Spirit RED color, you are located at 1OC. BLUE = 11OC. TEAL = 7OC. PURPLE = 5OC.

Same goes to all ladder maps ATM.
I hope someone delivers the message to the Blizzard forum.

Source: YGOSU

PS: Heard a rumor that this affected for ASL matches also.
+ Show Spoiler +
and I think this is true.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10836 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-17 19:26:49
April 17 2018 19:18 GMT
#2
Woah lol

EDIT : What do you mean 11 OC On FS?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2045 Posts
April 17 2018 19:38 GMT
#3
On April 18 2018 04:18 GGzerG wrote:
Woah lol

EDIT : What do you mean 11 OC On FS?


11 o'clock
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fazek42
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Hungary438 Posts
April 17 2018 20:43 GMT
#4
Blizzard scooching the pooch again! Hope they fix it quick.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10836 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-17 21:04:06
April 17 2018 21:03 GMT
#5
On April 18 2018 04:38 razorsuKe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2018 04:18 GGzerG wrote:
Woah lol

EDIT : What do you mean 11 OC On FS?


11 o'clock

Obviously, but 10 O clock and 11 O clock on FS?

EDIT : Oops im stupid, I read 1 as 10 sorry
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
April 17 2018 21:12 GMT
#6
Gawd. Did someone check ASL matches to verify?
The heart's eternal vow
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5540 Posts
April 18 2018 00:27 GMT
#7
REPLAY THE MATCHES. only real answer here tbh
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GrantTheAnt
Profile Joined November 2017
7 Posts
April 18 2018 00:57 GMT
#8
This was an unintended consequence of the red vs blue implementation, and we'll be reverting this change in a hotfix as soon as possible.
Blizzard
10dla
Profile Joined March 2018
127 Posts
April 18 2018 01:10 GMT
#9
Too bad the ASL integrity was already destroyed with that Island map

User was temp banned for this post.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 18 2018 01:11 GMT
#10
On April 18 2018 09:57 GrantTheAnt wrote:
This was an unintended consequence of the red vs blue implementation, and we'll be reverting this change in a hotfix as soon as possible.

Thanks for the quick response.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51690 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-18 01:19:39
April 18 2018 01:17 GMT
#11
the ASL hosts its games in TvB and not melee mode.

however on reviewing yesterday's games, both transistor games had different spawn points.
Commentator
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
April 18 2018 01:48 GMT
#12
but the player with the color red spawned left position, blue spawned top right and teal spawned bottom right.
so as long as you scout his color, you know where his base is.
inFeZa
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia556 Posts
April 18 2018 02:09 GMT
#13
On April 18 2018 10:10 10dla wrote:
Too bad the ASL integrity was already destroyed with that Island map


??

It's given us some of the best and most entertaining games I've ever watched in StarCraft. It's thrown some diversity into the game and given players a chance to stretch their strategic abilities in a setting that isn't comfortable.

This is StarCraft, it's supposed to be challenging and pushing the status quo for 1v1 strategy and ASL have accomplished that with these new bold and exciting maps.
Starcraft 2 in-game Observer. Follow me twitter.com/infeza
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
April 18 2018 02:11 GMT
#14
Not to mention now that we have more information on how island maps function, going forward we can tailor them better...
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
10dla
Profile Joined March 2018
127 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-18 02:35:52
April 18 2018 02:30 GMT
#15
On April 18 2018 11:11 Dazed. wrote:
Not to mention now that we have more information on how island maps function, going forward we can tailor them better...

So Tournaments are a testing ground for special maps? And more information on Island Maps? Was that the first island map in 20 years of Starcraft?

On April 18 2018 11:09 inFeZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2018 10:10 10dla wrote:
Too bad the ASL integrity was already destroyed with that Island map


??

It's given us some of the best and most entertaining games I've ever watched in StarCraft. It's thrown some diversity into the game and given players a chance to stretch their strategic abilities in a setting that isn't comfortable.

This is StarCraft, it's supposed to be challenging and pushing the status quo for 1v1 strategy and ASL have accomplished that with these new bold and exciting maps.

You are confusing showmatches with a tournament match. The trick is to have a competitive, fair and entertaining game. What did Artosis say? 100% Winrate for the favored race across all ASL matches? And for some reason they got rid of the map
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
April 18 2018 03:13 GMT
#16
Sparkle is one of the more balanced maps in this ASL, and it'll be back in the ro8.
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2937 Posts
April 18 2018 03:27 GMT
#17
On April 18 2018 11:30 10dla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2018 11:11 Dazed. wrote:
Not to mention now that we have more information on how island maps function, going forward we can tailor them better...

So Tournaments are a testing ground for special maps? And more information on Island Maps? Was that the first island map in 20 years of Starcraft?

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2018 11:09 inFeZa wrote:
On April 18 2018 10:10 10dla wrote:
Too bad the ASL integrity was already destroyed with that Island map


??

It's given us some of the best and most entertaining games I've ever watched in StarCraft. It's thrown some diversity into the game and given players a chance to stretch their strategic abilities in a setting that isn't comfortable.

This is StarCraft, it's supposed to be challenging and pushing the status quo for 1v1 strategy and ASL have accomplished that with these new bold and exciting maps.

You are confusing showmatches with a tournament match. The trick is to have a competitive, fair and entertaining game. What did Artosis say? 100% Winrate for the favored race across all ASL matches? And for some reason they got rid of the map


I hate to burst your bubble, but tournaments have ALWAYS been the testing ground for "special" maps. Here's a few to consider: Monty Hall, Outsider, Pioneer Period, HitchHiker, Peaks of Beakdu, Blue Storm, 815, Baekmagoji, This isn't even factoring in the proleague only maps like Arkanoid that were equally experimental.

As a result of this innovation, a game that hasn't had a balance update since 99 is still a spectator sport.
Fuck KeSPA.
10dla
Profile Joined March 2018
127 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-18 04:16:24
April 18 2018 03:49 GMT
#18
On April 18 2018 12:27 oshibori_probe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2018 11:30 10dla wrote:
On April 18 2018 11:11 Dazed. wrote:
Not to mention now that we have more information on how island maps function, going forward we can tailor them better...

So Tournaments are a testing ground for special maps? And more information on Island Maps? Was that the first island map in 20 years of Starcraft?

On April 18 2018 11:09 inFeZa wrote:
On April 18 2018 10:10 10dla wrote:
Too bad the ASL integrity was already destroyed with that Island map


??

It's given us some of the best and most entertaining games I've ever watched in StarCraft. It's thrown some diversity into the game and given players a chance to stretch their strategic abilities in a setting that isn't comfortable.

This is StarCraft, it's supposed to be challenging and pushing the status quo for 1v1 strategy and ASL have accomplished that with these new bold and exciting maps.

You are confusing showmatches with a tournament match. The trick is to have a competitive, fair and entertaining game. What did Artosis say? 100% Winrate for the favored race across all ASL matches? And for some reason they got rid of the map


I hate to burst your bubble, but tournaments have ALWAYS been the testing ground for "special" maps. Here's a few to consider: Monty Hall, Outsider, Pioneer Period, HitchHiker, Peaks of Beakdu, Blue Storm, 815, Baekmagoji, This isn't even factoring in the proleague only maps like Arkanoid that were equally experimental.

As a result of this innovation, a game that hasn't had a balance update since 99 is still a spectator sport.

How many Starcraft tournaments are going on nowadays? Do you really believe that this one thing should be the testing ground for a map like that?
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2937 Posts
April 18 2018 03:52 GMT
#19
On April 18 2018 12:49 10dla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2018 12:27 oshibori_probe wrote:
On April 18 2018 11:30 10dla wrote:
On April 18 2018 11:11 Dazed. wrote:
Not to mention now that we have more information on how island maps function, going forward we can tailor them better...

So Tournaments are a testing ground for special maps? And more information on Island Maps? Was that the first island map in 20 years of Starcraft?

On April 18 2018 11:09 inFeZa wrote:
On April 18 2018 10:10 10dla wrote:
Too bad the ASL integrity was already destroyed with that Island map


??

It's given us some of the best and most entertaining games I've ever watched in StarCraft. It's thrown some diversity into the game and given players a chance to stretch their strategic abilities in a setting that isn't comfortable.

This is StarCraft, it's supposed to be challenging and pushing the status quo for 1v1 strategy and ASL have accomplished that with these new bold and exciting maps.

You are confusing showmatches with a tournament match. The trick is to have a competitive, fair and entertaining game. What did Artosis say? 100% Winrate for the favored race across all ASL matches? And for some reason they got rid of the map


I hate to burst your bubble, but tournaments have ALWAYS been the testing ground for "special" maps. Here's a few to consider: Monty Hall, Outsider, Pioneer Period, HitchHiker, Peaks of Beakdu, Blue Storm, 815, Baekmagoji, This isn't even factoring in the proleague only maps like Arkanoid that were equally experimental.

As a result of this innovation, a game that hasn't had a balance update since 99 is still a spectator sport.

How many Starcraft tournaments are going on nowadays? Do you really believe that one thing should be the testing ground for a map like that?


Not enough. Yes.
Fuck KeSPA.
10dla
Profile Joined March 2018
127 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-18 04:15:47
April 18 2018 04:15 GMT
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