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On December 09 2017 16:04 predai wrote:
What you guys don't know.
Legend took a bunch of photos of the players he was going to play at this event, posted them in his weibo account, called them losers and said he will own all of them. This was two days before he ranted at Larva because of the latter's 'insults' at the event. You ask me, I'll say that Legend deserved it 100% for karmic retribution.
It's like pot calling the kettle black, except Legend made a big scene and the CN SJWs and news outlets were eager to lap all his nonsense up.
And unlike Larva who wrote about apologizing to Legend, I don't see the latter apologizing to anyone, including players and fans he insulted.
It's hard to take CN seriously when so many of them are two-faced. I really don't get why they keep doing this when it just hurts their reputation.
Hahahaha
It's all becoming pretty clear
That they were both in on it as it was a showmatch
The Organizers too
And they are playing people like fiddle for publicity 
And it worked! Broodwar's getting the most attention in years, this was even reposted on the fabled Liquidpoker and brought me here!
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On December 09 2017 16:04 predai wrote:
What you guys don't know.
Legend took a bunch of photos of the players he was going to play at this event, posted them in his weibo account, called them losers and said he will own all of them. This was two days before he ranted at Larva because of the latter's 'insults' at the event. You ask me, I'll say that Legend deserved it 100% for karmic retribution.
It's like pot calling the kettle black, except Legend made a big scene and the CN SJWs and news outlets were eager to lap all his nonsense up.
And unlike Larva who wrote about apologizing to Legend, I don't see the latter apologizing to anyone, including players and fans he insulted.
It's hard to take CN seriously when so many of them are two-faced. I really don't get why they keep doing this when it just hurts their reputation.
If you insist on stalking Legend's social media account, know that even earlier he posted about his feelings going into the event, that his passion had died, and this is probably his last game and a nostalgia trip to be treasured for him. A far cry from the immature angle you are trying to make.
Following that was his post supposedly saying that they are "losers". What was the actual word he used? "Noobs", which literally everyone in the comments interpreted as joking before it got hijacked after the match, funny how you portrayed it as some kind of evidence he deserved it.
After the game, he called out Larva for his actions, which I trust everyone to have read the more accurate translation, instead of that extremely-worded "mentally-ill" version.
I wonder why you left out his most recent post, if you are so eager to inform everyone of his activities. To summarize the response which was about player behaviour, he said that he was honoured to have been invited. He aimed to beat Draco and get second place, as he had no hopes of beating Larva, and defeat was something he anticipated, this was corroborated by an interview. He also said he didn't mind getting nuked because it was a difference in strength, and didn't mind in-game showboating. So he made his adequate preparations, but did not expect to get such disrespect from Larva during the match. It was baseless for others to say that it was acceptable behaviour for a showmatch, because he was the one actually on the receiving end and disagreed. He pointed out that a pro would also feel similar (they did comment their sentiments). And even if it was just a show, he was not notified, nor asked for his consent. Legend went on to say that it was the pros' collective efforts that SC came to have recognition, and that he also knew of Larva's hard work. However he asked why didn't Larva learn from the professionalism of his SKT predecessors like BoxeR and GoRush. Legend namedropped other polite players as well and asked where did KeSPA and common manners go. As a representative of his country Larva brought shame to the Korean e-sports scene. Legend thought highly of SC and said that Larva was the only one who could act so shamefully in the game's 20 year history, which is why he could not accept that apology of his. And if using feet really is a way of showing skill, then it's only something he can accept if he won playing with his feet the entire time.
It's hard not to think of you as a troll, and it's no surprise that CN's reputation is so bad when people like you come to tar it with misleading information.
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On December 10 2017 12:45 karej_says wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2017 16:04 predai wrote:
What you guys don't know.
Legend took a bunch of photos of the players he was going to play at this event, posted them in his weibo account, called them losers and said he will own all of them. This was two days before he ranted at Larva because of the latter's 'insults' at the event. You ask me, I'll say that Legend deserved it 100% for karmic retribution.
It's like pot calling the kettle black, except Legend made a big scene and the CN SJWs and news outlets were eager to lap all his nonsense up.
And unlike Larva who wrote about apologizing to Legend, I don't see the latter apologizing to anyone, including players and fans he insulted.
It's hard to take CN seriously when so many of them are two-faced. I really don't get why they keep doing this when it just hurts their reputation. If you insist on stalking Legend's social media account, know that even earlier he posted about his feelings going into the event, that his passion had died, and this is probably his last game and a nostalgia trip to be treasured for him. A far cry from the immature angle you are trying to make. Following that was his post supposedly saying that they are "losers". What was the actual word he used? "Noobs", which literally everyone in the comments interpreted as joking before it got hijacked after the match, funny how you portrayed it as some kind of evidence he deserved it. After the game, he called out Larva for his actions, which I trust everyone to have read the more accurate translation, instead of that extremely-worded "mentally-ill" version. I wonder why you left out his most recent post, if you are so eager to inform everyone of his activities. To summarize the response which was about player behaviour, he said that he was honoured to have been invited. He aimed to beat Draco and get second place, as he had no hopes of beating Larva, and defeat was something he anticipated, this was corroborated by an interview. He also said he didn't mind getting nuked because it was a difference in strength, and didn't mind in-game showboating. So he made his adequate preparations, but did not expect to get such disrespect from Larva during the match. It was baseless for others to say that it was acceptable behaviour for a showmatch, because he was the one actually on the receiving end and disagreed. He pointed out that a pro would also feel similar (they did comment their sentiments). And even if it was just a show, he was not notified, nor asked for his consent. Legend went on to say that it was the pros' collective efforts that SC came to have recognition, and that he also knew of Larva's hard work. However he asked why didn't Larva learn from the professionalism of his SKT predecessors like BoxeR and GoRush. Legend namedropped other polite players as well and asked where did KeSPA and common manners go. As a representative of his country Larva brought shame to the Korean e-sports scene. Legend thought highly of SC and said that Larva was the only one who could act so shamefully in the game's 20 year history, which is why he could not accept that apology of his. And if using feet really is a way of showing skill, then it's only something he can accept if he won playing with his feet the entire time. It's hard not to think of you as a troll, and it's no surprise that CN's reputation is so bad when people like you come to tar it with misleading information.
TL;DR. It's literally hard to take serious ppl with 1 post on their fresh chinese account trying to defend and make things look opposite. Calm your tits CN and admit you got what you deserved.
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On December 10 2017 12:45 karej_says wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2017 16:04 predai wrote:
What you guys don't know.
Legend took a bunch of photos of the players he was going to play at this event, posted them in his weibo account, called them losers and said he will own all of them. This was two days before he ranted at Larva because of the latter's 'insults' at the event. You ask me, I'll say that Legend deserved it 100% for karmic retribution.
It's like pot calling the kettle black, except Legend made a big scene and the CN SJWs and news outlets were eager to lap all his nonsense up.
And unlike Larva who wrote about apologizing to Legend, I don't see the latter apologizing to anyone, including players and fans he insulted.
It's hard to take CN seriously when so many of them are two-faced. I really don't get why they keep doing this when it just hurts their reputation. If you insist on stalking Legend's social media account, know that even earlier he posted about his feelings going into the event, that his passion had died, and this is probably his last game and a nostalgia trip to be treasured for him. A far cry from the immature angle you are trying to make. Following that was his post supposedly saying that they are "losers". What was the actual word he used? "Noobs", which literally everyone in the comments interpreted as joking before it got hijacked after the match, funny how you portrayed it as some kind of evidence he deserved it. After the game, he called out Larva for his actions, which I trust everyone to have read the more accurate translation, instead of that extremely-worded "mentally-ill" version. I wonder why you left out his most recent post, if you are so eager to inform everyone of his activities. To summarize the response which was about player behaviour, he said that he was honoured to have been invited. He aimed to beat Draco and get second place, as he had no hopes of beating Larva, and defeat was something he anticipated, this was corroborated by an interview. He also said he didn't mind getting nuked because it was a difference in strength, and didn't mind in-game showboating. So he made his adequate preparations, but did not expect to get such disrespect from Larva during the match. It was baseless for others to say that it was acceptable behaviour for a showmatch, because he was the one actually on the receiving end and disagreed. He pointed out that a pro would also feel similar (they did comment their sentiments). And even if it was just a show, he was not notified, nor asked for his consent. Legend went on to say that it was the pros' collective efforts that SC came to have recognition, and that he also knew of Larva's hard work. However he asked why didn't Larva learn from the professionalism of his SKT predecessors like BoxeR and GoRush. Legend namedropped other polite players as well and asked where did KeSPA and common manners go. As a representative of his country Larva brought shame to the Korean e-sports scene. Legend thought highly of SC and said that Larva was the only one who could act so shamefully in the game's 20 year history, which is why he could not accept that apology of his. And if using feet really is a way of showing skill, then it's only something he can accept if he won playing with his feet the entire time. It's hard not to think of you as a troll, and it's no surprise that CN's reputation is so bad when people like you come to tar it with misleading information.
First of all, I'm Chinese. I can read and write the Chinese language. I also happen to translate the language frequently into English.
I believe it's a universal thing in every country, but I have worked with bad eggs and good companies before, so I hope you would understand if I say 'spare me the two-faced hypocrisy ****'.
Now, I'm not sure if there's a change in lingo when it comes to gaming terms, but perhaps I did miss the few points you're talking about. So let me analyze it again to make up for my possible mistakes.
1) 一群草鸡 等我收割 - As quoted from Lx
"A bunch of 'Losers', are waiting for me to reap them."
Maybe you can call the term 'noobs' or whatnot (I completely disagree since the Chinese definition I know of means cowardly and weak, but sure, let's take your word for it since I don't know the slang aspect of it.). The general meaning of it is *derogatory* in nature. It's an insult. However you spin it, in front of my layman eyes from a non-starcraft stream watcher, he's mocking the players who went to the events.
I can understand the sentiments of wanting to support your countryman, but let me check if your claim about 'literally everyone in the comments interpreted it as joking' is true.
Flandre_f0rest：buyaoyiweiniyingle
12月2日 09:21
叶凌了了：6666666666
12月2日 08:15
扶风Melon：加油，老乡
12月2日 06:13
These are the three general consensus that I found from the (relatively few) comments from the two days before the insult incident.
buyaoyiweiniyingle - Don't assume that you have won.
6666666666 - According to my knowledge of this lingo, it means, "Very good/did wonderful", but that could take on a different sarcastic meaning at times, like "MAN, the way how you fed is VERY GOOD". I'm not sure if the commenter is either warning Lx with puns or not with this comment.
加油 - Good luck.
Nowhere did I see 'everyone' interpret as him joking.
2) Let's also see if the comments later on describe him as joking. I mean if Lx is joking, then there wouldn't be people getting upset over his loss to Larva right?
传送时间点：然后就给输了
12月5日 15:15
李粑粑哟LT：以这种心态去比赛，难怪别人嘲讽你，自己技不如人
12月5日 15:17
然后就给输了 - And so you lost.
以这种心态去比赛，难怪别人嘲讽你，自己技不如人 - Going to a tournament with this kind of mindset, it's no wonder that others are mocking you, your skills are not as good as others. (this had 65 upvotes, compared to the 1-5 upvotes from the 'literally everyone was treating it as a joke' reply that you supposedly had).
3) "I trust everyone to have read the more accurate translation, instead of that extremely-worded "mentally-ill" version."
I'm a pretty savage person and maybe it's kind of similar to CN SJW-level-bad. As I mentioned earlier, I'm a translator of sorts. When Lx fired off his post on weibo, he was absolutely furious. When I translated his post, I took into account about his mentality and tone at that point.
Now, there's obviously no way that I can intepret what exactly was on his mind, so I may be wrong and his 'tone' was as mild as that 'mentally-ill' version. Maybe.
But my suspicion is that he wants to lash out at Larva and his fans for his perceived insult with the strongest offensively-toned litany that he had. Nothing more, nothing less.
So that's how I translated it in my mind.
4) Blah blah, recent post about his dignity.
Look, it's impossible for me to say he has the right to judge Larva at all. When I first saw that stunt about calling the other noobs/losers, I thought it was just a publicity move that was not unlike Larva. Then he ranted about Larva next.
If he had maintained an attitude that's beyond reproach on his weibo account with the utmost respect for the other players, I would think that he has the highest morals possible and that dignity should not be affronted. This recent post of his, well, I simply perceive it as nothing but an excuse to pad up his integrity to show he's in the right.
It's just too hard to separate his actions with the bad companies that I worked with. The latter does the two-faced thing, you know.
Anyways. Low post count = troll?
Heh. I can throw back the same accusation back at you.
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Just close these threads already.
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I agree, just close it.
Larva is who he is, like him or hate him, he won't lose sleep over it.
Let it go and stop overreacting over media nonsense.
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Well hello there, I'm Canadian. I happen to know of a search engine named Baidu.
On December 10 2017 18:31 predai wrote:
1) 一群草鸡 等我收割 - As quoted from Lx
"A bunch of 'Losers', are waiting for me to reap them."
Maybe you can call the term 'noobs' or whatnot (I completely disagree since the Chinese definition I know of means cowardly and weak, but sure, let's take your word for it since I don't know the slang aspect of it.). The general meaning of it is *degatory* in nature. It's an insult. However you spin it, in front of my layman eyes from a non-starcraft stream watcher, he's mocking the players who went to the events.
You don't even have to be a SC stream watcher to know what the term means. The term is a synonym to 菜鸟, which again, means noob. The fact that you don't even know what that means raises questions of where exactly you're getting your Chinese definitions from.
On December 10 2017 18:31 predai wrote:
buyaoyiweiniyingle - Don't assume that you have won.
6666666666 - According to my knowledge of this lingo, it means, "Very good/did wonderful", but that could take on a different sarcastic meaning at times, like "MAN, the way how you fed is VERY GOOD". I'm not sure if the commenter is either warning Lx with puns or not with this comment.
加油 - Good luck.
Nowhere did I see 'everyone' interpret as him joking.
buyaoyiweiniyingle - Being a layman, it is natural that you don't understand where the joke is. It's a reference to an incident before where Legend got completely destroyed by another player just as he thought he was going to win. The comment is referencing that he is going to lose again and not taking his post seriously.
6666666666 - It means very skilled, used in the sarcastic sense, indicating that the comment thinks he's being funny.
Good luck - a cursory post. Are people not even allowed to offer encouragement these days?
Of course everyone thought he was joking, who are you kidding with your inaccurate grasp of gaming lingo?
On December 10 2017 18:31 predai wrote:
2) Let's also see if the comments later on describe him as joking. I mean if Lx is joking, then there wouldn't be people getting upset over his loss to Larva right?
传送时间点：然后就给输了
12月5日 15:15
李粑粑哟LT：以这种心态去比赛，难怪别人嘲讽你，自己技不如人
12月5日 15:17
You like to raise examples, but leaving out the ones describing him as joking is again, a low move. But then again, using a post by someone unfamiliar with the context is just like you, who seem to be unfamiliar with the Chinese language. Guess you intentionally left out the posts where the poster that came to insult him for losing apologized after learning what actually went down. And what will people following the later links actually see? A bunch of commenters berating Larva for his lack of manners, which was the main issue.
On December 10 2017 18:31 predai wrote:
But my suspicion is that he wants to lash out at Larva and his fans for his perceived insult with the strongest offensively-toned litany that he had. Nothing more, nothing less.
My suspicion is that you want to paint him in a bad light by misinterpreting what he wrote as greatly offensive, although it's nowhere near that. He said idiot, clown, and trash. Now, here are some actually offensive things to say, cnm, nmsl, rabid dog, elementary schooler, glass heart, sb, and some more creative ones I've heard of from Chinese friends. The fact that he chose not to use them demonstrates his decency, nothing more, nothing less.
On December 10 2017 18:31 predai wrote:
Look, it's impossible for me to say he has the right to judge Larva at all. When I first saw that stunt about calling the other noobs/losers, I thought it was just a publicity move that was not unlike Larva. Then he ranted about Larva next.
So Legend has no right saying this as a retired pro, commenting about the e-sports scene and another player? Does that mean all the linked comments of other players have no value? And you? You've evidently judged Legend after all, despite having much less credibility. You're also saying that you didn't know about SC, but knew about Larva, and couldn't accept Legend's "rant." Thanks for putting your bias out there. I came from r/videos.
On December 10 2017 18:31 predai wrote:
If he had maintained an attitude that's beyond reproach on his weibo account with the utmost respect for the other players, I would think that he has the highest morals possible and that dignity should not be affronted. This recent post of his, well, I simply perceive it as nothing but an excuse to pad up his integrity to show he's in the right.
Such logic. He makes a civilized post going into the game you ignore it. He then makes a joking post and you say it's grounds for retribution and backs that up with inaccurate translations. He calls out Larva for his actions you say it's insulting. He adds a detailed response you discount that as an excuse. Now you want him to be polite the entire time, instead of the vast majority of the time? How about I ask you to not troll the entire time, instead of the the majority of the time, after all, how would you feel with your own words when you get banned with your trolling? "If predai had maintained an attitude that's beyond reproach on TL by not deceiving other posters, I would think that he has the highest morals possible and that his banning was wrong. This recent post of predai, well, I simply perceive as nothing but even more trolling."
On December 10 2017 18:31 predai wrote:
It's just too hard to separate his actions with the bad companies that I worked with. The latter does the two-faced thing, you know.
"It's just too hard to separate Larva's actions with the bad people that I worked with. The latter does the disrespectful thing, you know."
On December 10 2017 18:31 predai wrote:
Anyways. Low post count = troll?
Misrepresenting information for all to see now that there is no language barrier. Troll indeed.
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First of all, I had already admitted that I don't know what 草鸡 means, but the intent was derogatory in nature. That's it. I'm not sure why you would want to distract anyone about my unfamiliarity with internet slangs. I already stated I'm taking your internet savvy lingo for the right one. And just in case you want to know where I got the definition, see number 2
草鸡
cǎojī/
1. 名词
母鸡。
2. 形容词
口语
比喻软弱怯懦、畏缩不前。
「一来真的，他就 草鸡了」
Secondly, I'm just responding to your BS claims that "everyone was literally seeing him as joking" in his post. You said literally everyone, but that's hardly true, unless for some reason that 60 + upvotes on calling up his BS is fake. You're the one twisting the facts to paint Lx in a good light by making him seem like he was joking, and if it's true that this particular poster came to apologize to him, that's even worse. Because he becomes the very SJW that supports BS (and just for the others, I couldn't find evidence of that apology from the poster with 65 upvotes, not sure if karej_says is lying again).
If Larva insulted Lx, it's suddenly okay for Lx to insult other players (who did it in the first place)? Come on.....
Thirdly, do you remember that I said the pot calling the kettle black? 半斤八两, maybe I should use this as well. When you have someone who's doing the same thing as Larva on his weibo account, how do you expect me to say he has the right to be fair in this matter? There's no power to convince people that he's beyond reproach.
Also, nowhere did I support Larva. He did his **** and Lx did his ****. I simply saw their actions as a way to cater to their fans. However, I see Larva as the better person because he was willing to apologize for his action. If Lx stated in his most recent post that he shouldn't have use 一群草鸡 等我收割, and apologize for his actions, he would have credibility and I would start thinking about his criticism on Larva.
It suddenly became the part where he respects the other people and had no chance of winning completely contradicts what he wrote earlier. What do you expect me to think of this sudden change? It looks like he's just giving excuses to frame a narrative.
Fourth, that ridiculous claim about trolling. What's the similarity between Person A who murders one person, and Person B who murders many people. They are both murderers. No matter how "small" Lx's insult was, the fact doesn't change that he called other players noobs or whatever.
You're the troll who twisting Lx words into something positive and gave lies on how his supporters treated it as a literal joke.
Here's more commenters about that "literal joke lie" so that he karej_says can't escape from his pretense, and wow, I was really wrong about how it was a one-sided support for Lx, turns out the majority of the people there called out on his **** on his insult post against other players.
1) 叫我张冬瓜哇：被草鸡用爪子按到地上摩擦[二哈] 78 upvotes
2) 我试过牵着你的小手手：丢人现眼，活该被人用脚踩[doge] 36 upvotes
3) 矮胖丑不是伟人陈_：我看见最后张图里面的草了 23 upvotes
4 )傻呼呼的熊：偷拍别人正脸真的很过分，你和那个韩国选手真的半斤八两，你发的话我可以勉强认为是垃圾话，偷拍别人还嘲讽就过分了。输了就说是娱乐局。22 upvotes
1) The grass chicken (noob/loser) has used its claws and has (him) on the ground rubbing him in the dirt
2) Embarrassing yourself in front of others, you deserve to be stepped on with a foot by another person.
3) I saw that grass chicken in that last photo (referring to Larva).
4) You took photos of other players sneakily. You're no different from that korean player. I can treat your post as trash talk, but it's too much by adding on the photos. And when you lost you claimed that victory or defeat doesn't matter since it's all for entertainment.
It's a different matter for his rant on Larva because the SJW were crawling all over the posts, and I thought it was the same for his other insulting post. I was wrong
1) 毒奶色：你跟一个靠刷下限的韩国屌丝主播有啥好计较的？你曾经是冠军，是职业选手，对面不过是一个在韩国靠刷下限讨口为生的2流主播，你要理解这种当年的loser，好不容易熬到大家都不练星际1了，现在出来当跳跳也是正常的。 2319 upvotes
2) 韩国教育只教他们怎么认识RMB，他们不知道什么叫素质 451 upvotes
3) 重庆堇业先锋：妈的，屌丝这种素质贼差，贤哥别气 372 upvotes
1) What is there to pick a bone with against a korean loser streamer who relies on winning specific events? You're formerly a champion, a progamer, and on the opposite side is a second-rate streamer who relies on grinding events for a salary. You must understand that this "loser during those years" finally waited till everyone isn't playing starcraft 1 anymore, and it's a normal thing that he's now jumping out into the spotlight (negative tone).
2) Korean education only taught them to recognize RMB, and they don't know what's manners.
3) *insert a curse*, this loser obviously has p*ss-poor manners, Lx bro don't get angry.
I'm tired of Karej_says in just 2 posts. His lies are like a repeat of the dealings I had with bad companies. Since he wanted me to post the commenters on the "main issue on Larva", here are some of the pro-Lx comments.
I don't think I address everything Karej_says had in his post, but what I feel:
Both Larva and Lx did the same kind of insulting nonsense. Is it a very big thing to me? No.
I'm completely neutral on that issue since it feels like rivalry-speak, and really, it doesn't concern me.
But Lx talking about respect and showmanship when he insulted others on weibo, and SJW flocking to his defense? I have a serious issue with that. Why?
The outcome is this: A CN player is free to insult other players without getting punished, and when the reverse happens where someone insults a CN player, Zotac CN bans the latter because of the SJW's pressure. Not only that, Lx got away without getting punished for his actions
How do you expect CN to have any credibility with the other countries after that? I'm mad about this part.
PS: This is my last post. I'm not going to reply any further since I have wrote my piece on this matter.
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Yeah, Id like to do some note by feet during my Math class. NO ONE CANT scold me for that. Cause his class is SO BORING. And I would like to talk to YOU with my @ss, cause YOU looks like a SHIT. Is that illegal? No! Then I am good.
User was banned for this post.
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On December 11 2017 12:39 predai wrote:
Secondly, I'm just responding to your BS claims that "everyone was literally seeing him as joking" in his post. You said literally everyone, but that's hardly true, unless for some reason that 60 + upvotes on calling up his BS is fake. You're the one twisting the facts to paint Lx in a good light by making him seem like he was joking, and if it's true that this particular poster came to apologize to him, that's even worse. Because he becomes the very SJW that supports BS (and just for the others, I couldn't find evidence of that apology from the poster with 65 upvotes, not sure if karej_says is lying again).
On December 11 2017 12:39 predai wrote:
Thirdly, do you remember that I said the pot calling the kettle black? 半斤八两, maybe I should use this as well. When you have someone who's doing the same thing as Larva on his weibo account, how do you expect me to say he has the right to be fair in this matter? There's no power to convince people that he's beyond reproach.
On December 11 2017 12:39 predai wrote:
Here's more commenters about that "literal joke lie" so that he karej_says can't escape from his pretense, and wow, I was really wrong about how it was a one-sided support for Lx, turns out the majority of the people there called out on his **** on his insult post against other players.
Misrepresenting existing information repeatedly throughout your entire post, thanks for verifying your status as a troll once again. At this point, I'm thinking that you're not only inadequate at Chinese (given the actual meaning of that Chinese phrase and the numerous other occasions you dished out some translation only to get 打脸), you are also lacking in English comprehension. Your frequent injections of bias while using cherry-picked and contextless evidence isn't helping either.
On December 11 2017 12:39 predai wrote:
Also, nowhere did I support Larva. He did his **** and Lx did his ****. I simply saw their actions as a way to cater to their fans. However, I see Larva as the better person because he was willing to apologize for his action. If Lx stated in his most recent post that he shouldn't have use 一群草鸡 等我收割, and apologize for his actions, he would have credibility and I would start thinking about his criticism on Larva.
That's some rich hypocrisy, go read what you wrote again, I'll wait.
On December 11 2017 12:39 predai wrote:
It suddenly became the part where he respects the other people and had no chance of winning completely contradicts what he wrote earlier. What do you expect me to think of this sudden change? It looks like he's just giving excuses to frame a narrative.
Since you admitted that you actually had no idea what the Chinese you were "translating" actually meant, it is honestly hilarious that you think your argument built on top of that "translation" is still valid. It's also as if you haven't even bothered to educate yourself about the competition beyond "oooh SJWs" nor read what I wrote, where he lost to get second place, simply just giving excuses to justify and keep pushing your narrative.
On December 11 2017 12:39 predai wrote:
If Larva insulted Lx, it's suddenly okay for Lx to insult other players (who did it in the first place)? Come on.....
You put yourself out there first claiming that you're so savage after all, then failing to distinguish true savagery from Legend's mild statement. Now you're backpedalling? Come on......
On December 11 2017 12:39 predai wrote:
Fourth, that ridiculous claim about trolling. What's the similarity between Person A who murders one person, and Person B who murders many people. They are both murderers. No matter how "small" Lx's insult was, the fact doesn't change that he called other players noobs or whatever.
You're the troll who twisting Lx words into something positive and gave lies on how his supporters treated it as a literal joke.
I consider predai a troll because for giving misleading information time and again (even backing that up with even more misinformation, a true novelty), while I am correcting the record and demonstrating my ethos by providing links, actionable examples, and doing so without bias for "bad companies"? I must be a troll for calling predai a troll then, because now it seems like they are a straight-up liar.
Let's see, predai gave a translation of Legend's Weibo, presenting it as fact when it was in fact subjective. That wrongful translation is called out, and then predai tries to claim credibility with knowledge of Chinese, translating cherry-picked comments which are again wrong, trying to claim that Legend was insulting due to predai's experience with insults which are also wrong, and then downplaying Legend's credibility, all with a healthy dose of hypocrisy and bias. When faced with a reply, predai proceeds to call BS, backpedal, give strawmen, use more inaccurate Chinese, and get selective amnesia, with what I'd say would be an overdose of hypocrisy, bias, and incredibly, namecalling this time around. It's great that predai chose to self-moderate, as misinformation and disrespect has no place on a discussion thread.
Since I primarily made an account for Legend's first and latest comments, it is good to see that someone has given it a full-length and - what I gleaned from my friends - faithful translation on the new thread. It is hoped that more people can come to grasp the context under which Legend went to play his last tournament, uncoloured by predai's series of posts.
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Damn, can't believe this is still going on lol...
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I do think Larva was an ass to troll like that, but man, these new accounts posting novels chivalrously defending Legend's honour.. Unbelievable.
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Larva streaming right now with the nick "footstargamer" and including some foot action right in a very tense ZvT matchup. Pretty sure he did this before too. So yeah, unless you're not gonna beat the guy you might as well live with some humiliation.
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Well shits happened even when FireBatHero did some ceremony as did a lot of other players... but i don't think he got roasted this much. The players who lost against then returned with better performances and paid it back with some hearts and more ceremonies... that was one of the things people liked about the whole sc drama isn't it?
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