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pillowpants66
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada11 Posts
September 05 2017 22:07 GMT
#1
I have played this game many years and understand the clumsiness of units.

But lately i have had it happen on a few occasions where.

A) I will be microing my dragoons in my base and one will just stop randomly in the middle of nowhere with no obstructions. To the point where i have to manually click it and it wont even move until i issue multiple commands.

B) Zealots reacting in the exact same manner. Where i will be in the middle of the map, and one out of the group will just stop moving until i move it individually with multiple move commands...


Anyone experiencing this?
wishbonesaka
Profile Joined June 2016
Canada117 Posts
September 05 2017 22:12 GMT
#2
I experienced this, and I gave them a blanket. They needed more blankets. And then less blankets.

However, on a real note, I only experienced this so far with dragoons as in the past. Not with zealots yet, or that I can remember. Just hit HOLD POSITION on a frozen unit to unfreeze it though.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
525 Posts
September 05 2017 22:17 GMT
#3
Have had this with marines and tanks too =/
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
September 05 2017 22:21 GMT
#4
My medics always freeze. They're barely better than dragoons in this regard, yet no one ever mentions it.
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
September 05 2017 22:34 GMT
#5
Units will freeze when you manually target another unit but very rarely when you attack-move. At least this is what I have experienced. Happens most often with marines and dragoons.
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A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden552 Posts
September 05 2017 23:43 GMT
#6
Yep. I've played bw since 05 and i main protoss.
This could happen before the hd release, but now it happens a lot more, and in open areas.
It's super annoying early against Terran, where every dragoon makes a difference =/.
I assume this would be hard to "fix".
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11598 Posts
September 05 2017 23:43 GMT
#7
welcome to broodwar! the game where you have to hold your units hands or else they will either wander off and go for a stroll instead of going down the ramp, or they will just freeze and not want to do anything.
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A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden552 Posts
September 05 2017 23:48 GMT
#8
On September 06 2017 08:43 CaucasianAsian wrote:
welcome to broodwar! the game where you have to hold your units hands or else they will either wander off and go for a stroll instead of going down the ramp, or they will just freeze and not want to do anything.


i'm A rank on iccup and have 11 years of experience, but i had no idea. Thanks for the tip bro!
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 06 2017 00:09 GMT
#9
I've actually felt it has happened more with the release of Patch 1.18. It definitely happened in 1.16.1 of course, but I feel it happened less often.
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
September 06 2017 00:16 GMT
#10
From what I've seen freezing often happens when you are targeting a unit and then are re positioned out of its range. That's 2 of the factors that are part of causing a freeze but I don't know what the third is that makes it actually freeze.
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Gorgonoth
Profile Joined August 2017
United States468 Posts
September 06 2017 00:35 GMT
#11
This is a serious factor with busting a terran ramp. I have had dragoons freeze during a dive and lose the game that would otherwise be won.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5536 Posts
September 06 2017 00:43 GMT
#12
I've personally noticed it happening a lot more.
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pillowpants66
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada11 Posts
September 06 2017 00:47 GMT
#13
So in other words... Like the game i just lost. Using dragoons against zealots..... But then all your dragoons cant move.

Trying to upload the replay... Cant find the file.

Quick recap. I was fighting about 10 zealots with 8 dragoons. On the course of retreating i attempt to micro the whole way back to base. My dragoons stopped. THREE times. Lost them all before reaching my nat. GG
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5536 Posts
September 06 2017 00:51 GMT
#14
Haha that's brutal.
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RealZork
Profile Joined June 2017
31 Posts
September 06 2017 00:51 GMT
#15
On September 06 2017 09:47 pillowpants66 wrote:
So in other words... Like the game i just lost. Using dragoons against zealots..... But then all your dragoons cant move.

Trying to upload the replay... Cant find the file.

Quick recap. I was fighting about 10 zealots with 8 dragoons. On the course of retreating i attempt to micro the whole way back to base. My dragoons stopped. THREE times. Lost them all before reaching my nat. GG


Just out of curiosity how do you micro your dragons? I've hand units freeze before both zealot and dragoon and it's usually when I target click a specific unit. It's pretty rare though. However when microing dragoon vs zealot I always right click away then hold position when they are far enough to shoot but not be hit then repeat. I found when doing this you will never experience freeze.
pillowpants66
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada11 Posts
September 06 2017 00:59 GMT
#16
Hmm yeah, im trying to micro like i would in SC2, Right click to run away, then A-target the front zealot
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
September 06 2017 01:04 GMT
#17
I've been playing forever.. this is a known in-game "mechanic". Just press stop or hold position on the unit and it will unfreeze
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10487 Posts
September 06 2017 01:06 GMT
#18
On September 06 2017 08:48 A.Alm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2017 08:43 CaucasianAsian wrote:
welcome to broodwar! the game where you have to hold your units hands or else they will either wander off and go for a stroll instead of going down the ramp, or they will just freeze and not want to do anything.


i'm A rank on iccup and have 11 years of experience, but i had no idea. Thanks for the tip bro!

... what. how is this even possible lol
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RealZork
Profile Joined June 2017
31 Posts
September 06 2017 01:11 GMT
#19
On September 06 2017 09:59 pillowpants66 wrote:
Hmm yeah, im trying to micro like i would in SC2, Right click to run away, then A-target the front zealot


Dragoon micro is much more efficient by right clicking away hold position and they will shoot then right click away and repeat. If they are speedless zeals you won't even get touched. 8 dragoon can beat many speedless zeal. With speed it's harder but the same technique is always best.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
September 06 2017 01:15 GMT
#20
Something is not right. I play the game for years, and I don't remember units not shooting when enemies right at front. Even at the campaign I had valkyries right up enemies cannons and they didn't do anything.
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