EPTedit: pretty sure im not B rank now in skill, more like C+ maybe lol
Correlation of new SC:RM MMR to ICcup Ranking? - Page 6
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Pulimuli1
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edit: pretty sure im not B rank now in skill, more like C+ maybe lol | ||
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EndingLife
United States1599 Posts
If you play on more than one ID, that should give you a good idea about the variance. On one ID I'm 24-2 2100, on another I'm 42-25 2100. 42-25 stats is probably a lot more accurate given my current skill level | ||
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On September 26 2017 05:47 iopq wrote: I was C on iccup ladder (E fish ladder) and I maintain above 1900, with one account over 2000. Did I suddenly become A- skill over two-three months? nope But the SCR ranking system sure gives us room to believe our talent magically surfaced! Iccup I was glued to D+ (terran) for I'd say years! Couldnt stabilize in C- until I actually decided to improve, and started being serious about build orders etc, and then could reach C after a relatively short time. (weeks?) I think noticable improvement is a direct result of focusing on improvement. So if you didn't focus, you likely didn't improve. On September 26 2017 06:32 skindzer wrote: For the sake of it.. I was D+ / C- on Iccup and im hovering between 1600-1700. Like someone said before, if I lose too much in a row I end up playing against 80+/- apm players at like 1600 mmr. If I win too much I end up getting obliterated at 1700 mmr. Same here, I'm probably now around low C- or high D+ level, and varying between 1600-1800. It'd be cool to see letter ranks again in SCR. | ||
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chris0809
United States28 Posts
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iopq
United States1051 Posts
On September 26 2017 06:03 Sero wrote: Pretty much the same thing I said to Rauk. C and B+/A- iCCup ladder are the same thing, with the former having fewer games played. Go back on iCCup and see if anyone's still there to play against; you'll get it eventually. I was 233-350 C on iccup. Next season 158-241 C. Next season 108-158 C. Last season on iccup I was 22-22 D+. I'm not playing 1000 games to fail to get A- just to prove your point. | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On September 26 2017 06:53 iopq wrote: I was 233-350 C on iccup. Next season 158-241 C. Next season 108-158 C. Last season on iccup I was 22-22 D+. I'm not playing 1000 games to fail to get A- just to prove your point. i think his point is you need to game the system and mass game vs D players, not C/C+ | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
Don't think I'm even close to C rank though atm. | ||
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Sero
United States692 Posts
On September 26 2017 07:14 rauk wrote: i think his point is you need to game the system and mass game vs D players, not C/C+ No, not at all. You only need a 50% winrate against C players without even playing MotW. C- and C+ don't mean anything; it's all the same C rank. Anyway, it's not worth arguing over a 100 MMR difference. I didn't say it was perfectly accurate... That is how iCCup ranks work now though, if you just look at the points chart. | ||
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On September 26 2017 06:03 Sero wrote: Pretty much the same thing I said to Rauk. C and B+/A- iCCup ladder are the same thing, with the former having fewer games played. Go back on iCCup and see if anyone's still there to play against; you'll get it eventually. Well we should never talk about the new ICCup ranks imo. Compare to the old ones. Those, more often than not, at least had a general correlation with skill. Or Fish ranks work too. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
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gamapg
Philippines189 Posts
I was a D player on Iccup before.... but now I'm in the asia and korean server at 1400 MMR, I'm still against people who know what they're doing and got 300 apm mid-late game.... Well... looks like i'm gonna sink deeper unless I get on par with them koreans... | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On September 26 2017 08:36 L_Master wrote: Well we should never talk about the new ICCup ranks imo. Compare to the old ones. Those, more often than not, at least had a general correlation with skill. Or Fish ranks work too. agree with this. when people talk about iccup ranks they're probably referring to the old system. the inflated one that came out in 2015 is quite the monstrosity lol. | ||
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iopq
United States1051 Posts
On September 26 2017 08:21 Sero wrote: No, not at all. You only need a 50% winrate against C players without even playing MotW. C- and C+ don't mean anything; it's all the same C rank. Anyway, it's not worth arguing over a 100 MMR difference. I didn't say it was perfectly accurate... That is how iCCup ranks work now though, if you just look at the points chart. You don't get to play vs. all C rank players. You play a D+ guy and it turns out he's Dandy's smurf or something. You just don't get 50% win rate when playing against C rank players because some of those C rank players are actually olympic - they are just starting a new account. Maybe it's different now that RM is out, but I've never had a positive win rate at C rank. | ||
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heyitsMiro
83 Posts
On September 26 2017 08:36 L_Master wrote: Well we should never talk about the new ICCup ranks imo. Compare to the old ones. Those, more often than not, at least had a general correlation with skill. Or Fish ranks work too. We shouldn't even be talking about ICCup at all. It's really just a meme and has been an absolute joke for years. If you're trying to use a ranking system from 5+ years ago to relate to players today, you're automatically doing something wrong as well. Fish ranks are maybe more accurate and could potentially be used. As shitty and buggy as the new MMR system is, it's probably the best indicator for skill and you should just take the number at face value for what it is. On every ladder people are going to game the system to try and min-max their point ranking. SC:R ladder is hardest to do that on. | ||
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heyitsMiro
83 Posts
On September 26 2017 09:10 iopq wrote: You don't get to play vs. all C rank players. You play a D+ guy and it turns out he's Dandy's smurf or something. You just don't get 50% win rate when playing against C rank players because some of those C rank players are actually olympic - they are just starting a new account. Maybe it's different now that RM is out, but I've never had a positive win rate at C rank. That sounds like a player issue and a personal problem. No flaming intended. | ||
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iopq
United States1051 Posts
On September 26 2017 09:57 Carnations wrote: That sounds like a player issue and a personal problem. No flaming intended. Yeah, I'm saying I'm a bad player and I would never reach A- rank with my skills, yet I've been nearly 2100 on ladder. | ||
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heyitsMiro
83 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/158501beded15524cf068ca997e8f12a.png) Anything is possible on ICCup. The ladder is trash and doesn't mean anything. It meant little before the point system rework but it was like, even more meaningless after. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On September 26 2017 14:19 Carnations wrote: That's the thing though, you could. Anything is possible on ICCup. The ladder is trash and doesn't mean anything. It meant little before the point system rework but it was like, even more meaningless after. How does your ICCup laddering relate to Iopq though? | ||
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