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aLt)nirvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Singapore846 Posts
September 25 2017 02:48 GMT
#81
You can look at the iccup rankings for the current and last season
https://iccup.com/en/starcraft/ladder/1x1.html

And then search on battle.net ladder for the names you see.
If they play on both and their w/l has settled, you get the exact correlation.

For e.g I believe these names can be found on ladder. I know eonzerg can.

Dandy[PE]: A
iFU.eonzerg: A
ArcneoN: A

And based on that:

A: 2400
A-: 2300
B+: 2200
B: 2100
B-: 2000
C+: 1900
C/C-: 1800
D+: 1700
D: 1500-1600
D-: <1400
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10470 Posts
September 25 2017 03:29 GMT
#82
1900 is only C+? damn i really didnt ladder hard enough on iccup then lol
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Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
September 25 2017 04:52 GMT
#83
I think those MMRs should have higher iCCup ranks. Like 1900 B-/B, 2k A-, 2300 A+. Obviously it's not going to be very accurate, like everyone else in the thread has already said, but it's close enough imo. Playing vs Koreans only means higher skill level at even lower MMR too.
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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
September 25 2017 05:09 GMT
#84
On September 25 2017 13:52 Sero wrote:
I think those MMRs should have higher iCCup ranks. Like 1900 B-/B, 2k A-, 2300 A+. Obviously it's not going to be very accurate, like everyone else in the thread has already said, but it's close enough imo. Playing vs Koreans only means higher skill level at even lower MMR too.


feels very strange to be promoted to A- after 4 years of inactivity lol
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
September 25 2017 05:14 GMT
#85
2k Is not A- 2200 is imo
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 05:44:43
September 25 2017 05:40 GMT
#86
don't know about later seasons but i recall A being near impossible for foreigners (<10 people) and A- being exceptionally (<50 people). given the number of people floating around 2k, think that's closer to C+/B- territory, not B/B+.
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oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
September 25 2017 05:56 GMT
#87
there's no way my 12 year old brother is nearly B- by only 5 pooling every single game
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 25 2017 06:11 GMT
#88
On September 25 2017 14:56 oDieN[Siege] wrote:
there's no way my 12 year old brother is nearly B- by only 5 pooling every single game


If it worked for DinOt, it can work for your brother.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10333 Posts
September 25 2017 06:33 GMT
#89
As Sero said, it really depends on the hours you play, just like it was when Koreans were active on ICCup. From my limited experience, the gap feels like 200 points, where during non-Korean hours all the matches are too easy, during Korean hours it is too hard, and by playing both I am where I am.
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Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 10:53:55
September 25 2017 10:29 GMT
#90
On September 25 2017 14:09 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2017 13:52 Sero wrote:
I think those MMRs should have higher iCCup ranks. Like 1900 B-/B, 2k A-, 2300 A+. Obviously it's not going to be very accurate, like everyone else in the thread has already said, but it's close enough imo. Playing vs Koreans only means higher skill level at even lower MMR too.


feels very strange to be promoted to A- after 4 years of inactivity lol

Thank iCCup.Face for your promotion, not me.

People seem to have missed that iCCup changed their ranking system a few years ago to make it way easier to rank up. Previously C- max players can now hit A- after playing enough games.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/487256-iccup-new-rating-system
On June 09 2015 08:47 iCCup.Face wrote:
The previous C+ skilled will be the next A-, with the difference to play more to get your real new rank, supposing you are here for the fun to play and to ladder up.


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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6998 Posts
September 25 2017 10:48 GMT
#91
On September 25 2017 11:48 aLt)nirvana wrote:
You can look at the iccup rankings for the current and last season
https://iccup.com/en/starcraft/ladder/1x1.html

And then search on battle.net ladder for the names you see.
If they play on both and their w/l has settled, you get the exact correlation.

For e.g I believe these names can be found on ladder. I know eonzerg can.

Dandy[PE]: A
iFU.eonzerg: A
ArcneoN: A

And based on that:

A: 2400
A-: 2300
B+: 2200
B: 2100
B-: 2000
C+: 1900
C/C-: 1800
D+: 1700
D: 1500-1600
D-: <1400

imo we need to wait a bit more for having realistic ranks,i was 2700 and then blizzard change TR and i loss my mmr just leaving games cuz lag,im pretty sure im not the only one having this problem.
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 18:05:42
September 25 2017 18:02 GMT
#92
i dont think 1900 is even C+ i am on 2 accounts 1950MMR now and i am typical 100-100 4500pts C player (100:100 vs equal rank, not vs lower ranks, vs lower ranks i hit B-). Also i am very bad at maps other than FS i played only FS for last 10 years, so now my MMR should be lower than my normal iccup skill becouse of losing on other than fs maps. I dont think my skill grow up so quick to be B- lol.
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Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
September 25 2017 18:10 GMT
#93
On September 26 2017 03:02 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
i dont think 1900 is even C+ i am on 2 accounts 1950MMR now and i am typical 100-100 4500pts C player (100:100 vs equal rank, not vs lower ranks, vs lower ranks i hit B-). Also i am very bad at maps other than FS i played only FS for last 10 years, so now my MMR should be lower than my normal iccup skill becouse of losing on other than fs maps. I dont think my skill grow up so quick to be B- lol.

If you hit B-, then you aren't C.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28804 Posts
September 25 2017 18:14 GMT
#94
I think if you hit b- because iccup changed their system so you could hit b- through beating D and D+ players, but you consistently lose against B- or C+, then you're still kind of a C.
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 18:27:45
September 25 2017 18:27 GMT
#95
I hit B- playing vs everyone, what means 50% games was vs ranks lower than me like D+/C- when i forced myself to play only vs same rank or eventualy higher only then i was C with kind of 100-100 stats 4500points.

I dont accept someone is A- when half of his games is vs C/C- its not real A-, i played and win vs alot of A- like it, ppl like this just decive themeselves and belives they are better but its not true.
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Ender2701
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States581 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 18:40:18
September 25 2017 18:38 GMT
#96
I'm now at 1894 on US East and 1450 on US West. It seems unlikely that this entirely due to randomness, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to make it up to 2000+ on US East. My accounts are RmRfStar (US West, 55-57), and RmRfStarTerran (US East, 47-27), I actually play Protoss on both accounts.

Most of my games on US East are very one sided too, people seem to barely know what they're doing. On US West, this is more rare; I'm regularly playing people with 200+ APM while ranked below average. I think the matchmaking will prefer players in the region you select, and then will go global if it doesn't find good matches.

I was D+ in iCCup, but I didn't play that much, probably only 100 or so lifetime games. Have been masters for 24 seasons in SC2 though.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1101 Posts
September 25 2017 20:47 GMT
#97
On September 25 2017 13:52 Sero wrote:
I think those MMRs should have higher iCCup ranks. Like 1900 B-/B, 2k A-, 2300 A+. Obviously it's not going to be very accurate, like everyone else in the thread has already said, but it's close enough imo. Playing vs Koreans only means higher skill level at even lower MMR too.

I was C on iccup ladder (E fish ladder) and I maintain above 1900, with one account over 2000. Did I suddenly become A- skill over two-three months?
aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland173 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 21:06:17
September 25 2017 21:03 GMT
#98
Yeah i have like 4:5 vs you iopq so definitly 1900 is like C mb 2000/2100 is C+.
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Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 21:05:23
September 25 2017 21:03 GMT
#99
On September 26 2017 05:47 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2017 13:52 Sero wrote:
I think those MMRs should have higher iCCup ranks. Like 1900 B-/B, 2k A-, 2300 A+. Obviously it's not going to be very accurate, like everyone else in the thread has already said, but it's close enough imo. Playing vs Koreans only means higher skill level at even lower MMR too.

I was C on iccup ladder (E fish ladder) and I maintain above 1900, with one account over 2000. Did I suddenly become A- skill over two-three months?

Pretty much the same thing I said to Rauk. C and B+/A- iCCup ladder are the same thing, with the former having fewer games played. Go back on iCCup and see if anyone's still there to play against; you'll get it eventually.
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EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1602 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-25 21:29:56
September 25 2017 21:23 GMT
#100
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