EPTCorrelation of new SC:RM MMR to ICcup Ranking? - Page 7
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
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heyitsMiro
83 Posts
On September 26 2017 15:03 L_Master wrote: How does your ICCup laddering relate to Iopq though? It's not me.But how the fuck does a B+ player get hardstuck at C+, then get A- a few seasons later, and get hardstuck at B- again the next season? Literally anything can happen on iccup. The ladder is awful and if you wanted to game the system hard enough you could get A- after the point changes especially. 800 games B- to roughly 55% A+ is a lot of improvement. There are a lot of players that this has happened to. That screenshot is just the most memorable to me. Too lazy to remember/try to find others. I've also played games with iopg and am quite sure if he really wanted the A- rank by his name, he could get it. | ||
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iD.NicKy
France767 Posts
ICCUP C SCR 1800 | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
517 Posts
insecurity thread? | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5501 Posts
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
On September 27 2017 04:30 jimminy_kriket wrote: Tried searching. What was the points change that occured on iccup? I quit playing before then. something like you get more points playing against lower ranks than before so you can rank up playing against lower ranks np or smtg like that i dont want to play on there anymore tbh | ||
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heyitsMiro
83 Posts
On September 27 2017 04:30 jimminy_kriket wrote: Tried searching. What was the points change that occured on iccup? I quit playing before then. Entire letters (B- B B+) are all considered the same rank and you lose significantly less points for each loss. The old ICCup system was D letters lose -50 points vs same rank (D+ vs D+), -62 vs one rank lower (D+ vs D). C letters lose -75 vs same rank (C vs C) -93 vs one lower (C+ vs C). B letters would lose -100 vs same rank, -125 for a rank lower, and -150 for two ranks lower (B+ vs B- or B- vs C) for example. Now B+ loses 50 points vs same rank which can be B+ vs B- and vs one rank lower they lose 62 points. One rank lower can be B+ vs C-. Playing B+ vs C- games gives you 97 points on MOTW which is roughly equal to playing non-motw same rank games before ladder reworks. The lower ranks are inflated as well but it isn't *as* bad. Maybe C+ through A level just got insanely inflated. edit: oh yeah, the dumbest thing was once you get to A- on the old system, losing against the same rank would mean you lost 140 points (totally negating the motw bonus, and requiring you to win a lot more of your games to climb). Now every A letter loses 75 points vs the same rank and -93 for a rank lower. That's basically the point loss for the old C letters. The entire thing is a joke now. | ||
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
D-DD+ was same 1 rank (just 3 different icons depends of how much points you have), C-CC+ was same 1 rank (just 3 different icons depends of how much points you have) etc... So playing B vs D- was like 2 ranks difference. and C+ vs D was 1 rank difference in real. A- was like C+ or B- ofc its very hard to compare becouse community was smaller, overall skill was higher than in expample 2008 etc new A- was ofc better than old C+ or smth but still, making A- never was so easy as on new system becouse it was just 1 rank difference from B to C-C guys and 2 ranks to D guys so many ppl just makes points vs newbs from lower ranks.. | ||
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Berg_zerg
Germany294 Posts
SCR MMR and Iccup are both not only highly dependend on the amount of games you played but also on how long the ladder has been going on. So to compare your End Rank at Iccup to a temporary SC:R mmr while having played a different amount of games is completely worthless | ||
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aFF]ZuluNAtion[
Poland173 Posts
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LxRogue
United States1415 Posts
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noname_
456 Posts
On topic: for a lot of people the deterring point of iccup laddering were the seasonal resets, I`m crossing fingers that this won`t be the case with SCR ladder... | ||
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A.Alm
Sweden515 Posts
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
On September 29 2017 20:17 noname_ wrote: I`d rather compare statistically the two chat system, the ease of lat chaging in games, and so on... On topic: for a lot of people the deterring point of iccup laddering were the seasonal resets, I`m crossing fingers that this won`t be the case with SCR ladder... agree +1 though I think with MMR, it may adjust faster, we've seen about 100 points may be about a Iccup rank, and if the system match you against a player with higher MMR cause you're on the rise after a reset, within 3-4 wins you get a "rank" instead of 10wins, its a pretty big difference already. But I don't think resets are needed? the interface is so slow in remastered, I just don't understand it. It's irritating, and inefficient. Now launching the game and using it feels heavy instead of light, and nothing works that well until you get into the game itself (and then you often get lag if your MMR is high or smtg^^) | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
Also are there win streaks | ||
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iopq
United States907 Posts
On September 29 2017 22:34 Dazed. wrote: Seems to be a trend appearing, despite the differences between the old system; c rank lands around 1750-1900, 1900-2000 seems roughly B. I'm 2100 and I was C on iccup | ||
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-Debaser-
United States329 Posts
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2904 Posts
On August 26 2017 18:08 Frauenarzt wrote: how do u not play vs koreans ? i was on ~1930 (eu server) when i had to play a lag game vs a 2140 korean (kor server) Believe it or not.. Koreans sleep too you know. | ||
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