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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
January 19 2018 12:28 GMT
#1501
On January 19 2018 20:24 MarcoJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 08:25 Heyjoray wrote:
On January 19 2018 08:24 MarcoJ wrote:
On January 19 2018 06:49 Heyjoray wrote:
On January 19 2018 06:19 MarcoJ wrote:
On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.

I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago....


Activision

to clear up. That happenend in the end of 2007 after the release from WoW:Burning Crusade and before WoW:Wrath of the Lich King.

So pretty much since than the quality took a nose dive, from the hardcore gamer perspective.

P.S: Im not 100% sure about the WoW perception, but I know that at least since Cataclysm most hardcore WoW players were shitting on it. Not sure about WotLK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment#Games

Post facts on how Activisions people influenced Blizzard. With exact examples on gameplay elements


look at hearthstone. Blizzard pre Activision always delivered state of the art games for hardcore gamers. It seemed like they believed that if they create great games they will earn enough money. Since Activision they are going the more casual route and soften up their titles. See Diablo 3, see Hots (a super soft MOBA), see Hearthstone (soft MtG), see WoW Add-ons (thats at least what vanilla hardcore player say). Cant say anything about Overwatch, never played it. But I think GGG with PoE clearly showed that there is a place for games made for hardcore gamers that can make good money.

Its obvious that Activision wants to make profit for their purchase. And its not a coincidence that Blizzard is releasing Remastered of their own classics. If they wouldn't have went so far apart from their original player base there would be no money to make from those remasters, but there is apparently.

Why wasnt Warcraft 3 more hardcore than Brood War?


post exact facts why warcraft 3 isnt more hardcore than Brood War.



He's been banned, he won't be responding to you.
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Orite
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany143 Posts
January 19 2018 14:23 GMT
#1502
On January 19 2018 20:39 kogeT wrote:
Warcraft 3 is more like chess, SC is more like boxing.

I mean in W3 you focus on relatively few elements and try to master them. SC is just a war all over the place - the more agile player usually wins.


Lets say then W3 is more like boxing, and SC is MMA :d
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NoJohnsons
Profile Joined January 2018
1 Post
Last Edited: 2018-01-19 18:26:23
January 19 2018 17:50 GMT
#1503
On January 19 2018 20:24 MarcoJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 08:25 Heyjoray wrote:
On January 19 2018 08:24 MarcoJ wrote:
On January 19 2018 06:49 Heyjoray wrote:
On January 19 2018 06:19 MarcoJ wrote:
On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.

I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago....


Activision

to clear up. That happenend in the end of 2007 after the release from WoW:Burning Crusade and before WoW:Wrath of the Lich King.

So pretty much since than the quality took a nose dive, from the hardcore gamer perspective.

P.S: Im not 100% sure about the WoW perception, but I know that at least since Cataclysm most hardcore WoW players were shitting on it. Not sure about WotLK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment#Games

Post facts on how Activisions people influenced Blizzard. With exact examples on gameplay elements


look at hearthstone. Blizzard pre Activision always delivered state of the art games for hardcore gamers. It seemed like they believed that if they create great games they will earn enough money. Since Activision they are going the more casual route and soften up their titles. See Diablo 3, see Hots (a super soft MOBA), see Hearthstone (soft MtG), see WoW Add-ons (thats at least what vanilla hardcore player say). Cant say anything about Overwatch, never played it. But I think GGG with PoE clearly showed that there is a place for games made for hardcore gamers that can make good money.

Its obvious that Activision wants to make profit for their purchase. And its not a coincidence that Blizzard is releasing Remastered of their own classics. If they wouldn't have went so far apart from their original player base there would be no money to make from those remasters, but there is apparently.

Why wasnt Warcraft 3 more hardcore than Brood War?


post exact facts why warcraft 3 isnt more hardcore than Brood War.

What the fuck is wrong with you guys, he was the one who said: "EVERYTHING BLIZZARD DID IN THE PAST WAS HARDCORE COOL! EVERYTHING AFTER VANILLLA SUCKED ASS!" Why the fuck was WoW vanilla a super casual version of Everquest and DAoC with quests, no death xp penalties and what not? Wasnt EVERYTHING blizzard did in the past HARDCORE? He has to explain his bullshit, not me. He posted copy/paste opinions, not me. I didnt make claims

User was banned for this post.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 19 2018 18:41 GMT
#1504
On January 19 2018 23:23 Orite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 20:39 kogeT wrote:
Warcraft 3 is more like chess, SC is more like boxing.

I mean in W3 you focus on relatively few elements and try to master them. SC is just a war all over the place - the more agile player usually wins.


Lets say then W3 is more like boxing, and SC is MMA :d


BW is more like original trilogy, while SC2 is like the prequel and WC3 the sequel
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
OrangeGarage
Profile Joined October 2015
Korea (South)319 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-19 19:37:50
January 19 2018 19:37 GMT
#1505
these analogies are losing me. where did it start, where will it end
I am drone! My dream is Hatchery!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 19 2018 19:55 GMT
#1506
Brood War is like gorgonzola, sc2 is like parmesan and wc3 like gouda
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-19 22:32:50
January 19 2018 22:32 GMT
#1507
Broodwar is the matrix, while SC2 is matrix reloaded

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-19 22:54:30
January 19 2018 22:54 GMT
#1508
On January 20 2018 04:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Brood War is like gorgonzola, sc2 is like parmesan and wc3 like gouda

='D hahaha, thanks for that
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
January 20 2018 03:49 GMT
#1509
On January 20 2018 07:32 duke91 wrote:
Broodwar is the matrix, while SC2 is matrix reloaded


BW is the Red Pill, Blue Pill is SC2.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
January 20 2018 04:52 GMT
#1510
hi friends, pls stop these analogies.
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-20 05:49:36
January 20 2018 05:48 GMT
#1511
BW is all these folks coming up with BW analogies, while SC2 is BLinD-RawR
/banter
Michael Probu
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2934 Posts
January 22 2018 22:30 GMT
#1512
Brood War is like a gentle breeze that carries the warmth of the morning sun to your porch as you rock in your chair looking out to the horizon.

Warcraft 3 is like the octopus you got in your Sushi combo that you eat anyways to show that you are not a coward.

Starcraft 2 is like that feeling when you watch Caitlyn Jenner walk in heals but force yourself not to be internally negative because... ya know, yeah...

User was warned for this post
Fuck KeSPA.
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
January 26 2018 04:12 GMT
#1513
WCG 2018 reborn today, but SCR is not official event.

WCG consider it, but they didnt decide yet.

Toss_Master
Profile Joined June 2017
United States46 Posts
January 26 2018 05:15 GMT
#1514
I hope they consider it and decide on it being a official event!!! Would be like old times.
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
January 26 2018 06:05 GMT
#1515
Oh god, my life would be complete if we got to see Starcraft at the WCGs again. Hopefully Blizzard will not impede this possibility.

I have very fond memories of watching Boxer versus Blackman on Lost Temple. That was the first time I saw the Terran Emperor in action. The Dropship flying toward the Zerg main, the Marine micro versus those Lurkers... It is something I will never forget.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
January 26 2018 07:48 GMT
#1516
On January 26 2018 13:12 K.H.J wrote:
WCG 2018 reborn today, but SCR is not official event.

WCG consider it, but they didnt decide yet.



This would be amazing if it happens!
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6794 Posts
January 26 2018 07:50 GMT
#1517
make wcg great again!
Altay
Profile Joined January 2018
31 Posts
January 26 2018 08:23 GMT
#1518
I dug around liquidpedia quickly and found out that the ASL4 prize pool was considerably larger than the GLS ones, 3 times larger than the last GSL in fact.

I hope BW survives and thrives, I am advertising it everywhere I can, it is so exciting to watch, comparable to anything we humans have come up with in terms of spectator sports Id say.



Give us BW ASL and WSG!!!



Also first time poster +3 3 lurker here, hi guys.
tub74557
Profile Joined November 2014
China25 Posts
January 26 2018 08:33 GMT
#1519
On January 26 2018 17:23 Altay wrote:
I dug around liquidpedia quickly and found out that the ASL4 prize pool was considerably larger than the GLS ones, 3 times larger than the last GSL in fact.

I hope BW survives and thrives, I am advertising it everywhere I can, it is so exciting to watch, comparable to anything we humans have come up with in terms of spectator sports Id say.



Give us BW ASL and WSG!!!



Also first time poster +3 3 lurker here, hi guys.


Really?!
ASL4 prize pool is 100M KRW, and last GSL prize pool is 170M KRW.
Altay
Profile Joined January 2018
31 Posts
January 26 2018 08:55 GMT
#1520
On January 26 2018 17:33 tub74557 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2018 17:23 Altay wrote:
I dug around liquidpedia quickly and found out that the ASL4 prize pool was considerably larger than the GLS ones, 3 times larger than the last GSL in fact.

I hope BW survives and thrives, I am advertising it everywhere I can, it is so exciting to watch, comparable to anything we humans have come up with in terms of spectator sports Id say.



Give us BW ASL and WSG!!!



Also first time poster +3 3 lurker here, hi guys.


Really?!
ASL4 prize pool is 100M KRW, and last GSL prize pool is 170M KRW.


yeah my bad I looked at 2017 AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament 2
(Wiki)2017 AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament 2

This one is indeed 170M KRW
(Wiki)2017 Global StarCraft II League Season 3

Still not bad considering ASL4 prize money 4 times larger than ASL1 and doubled since ASL3.
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