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On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago....
i feel the same way eventually reality will catchup with them its no secret even the millenials know that blizzard games are shallow and hollow nothing like the little creative mastermind pieces of the 90's
and that reality is smarter and more creative gaming companys are reinventing games what blizzard used to do a good example is GGG games they inspire to huge crowds and even casual gamers are leaving blizz and hopping on the GGG pathofexile bandwagen byebye sellout diablo3 the love for blizzard games is gone
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On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago....
Activision
to clear up. That happenend in the end of 2007 after the release from WoW:Burning Crusade and before WoW:Wrath of the Lich King.
So pretty much since than the quality took a nose dive, from the hardcore gamer perspective.
P.S: Im not 100% sure about the WoW perception, but I know that at least since Cataclysm most hardcore WoW players were shitting on it. Not sure about WotLK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment#Games
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On January 19 2018 06:19 MarcoJ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago.... Activision to clear up. That happenend in the end of 2007 after the release from WoW:Burning Crusade and before WoW:Wrath of the Lich King. So pretty much since than the quality took a nose dive, from the hardcore gamer perspective. P.S: Im not 100% sure about the WoW perception, but I know that at least since Cataclysm most hardcore WoW players were shitting on it. Not sure about WotLK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment#Games
Post facts on how Activisions people influenced Blizzard. With exact examples on gameplay elements
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On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago....
We're talking 100% about esports, which Blizzard barely, if at all, had a team for back then. Blizzard, rightfully (although maybe mishandled) is trying to keep their IP from being associated with things they don't want it associated with, so they instituted a lot of legal teams over it. This also nets them money/control, but I think by removing sponsors like alcohol, it's not a shoot for tons of money... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Now, it does suck because it means things like ASL are subject to being stopped by Blizzard's incredibly slow processes (empirical data on that one), so I get the anger.
Their newer titles are up for opinion, I personally loved Heroes for a long time but don't enjoy it so much anymore. Overwatch just isn't my flavor, but objectively neither of them are low-quality titles.
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On January 19 2018 06:58 SchAmToo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago.... We're talking 100% about esports, which Blizzard barely, if at all, had a team for back then. Blizzard, rightfully (although maybe mishandled) is trying to keep their IP from being associated with things they don't want it associated with, so they instituted a lot of legal teams over it. This also nets them money/control, but I think by removing sponsors like alcohol, it's not a shoot for tons of money... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Now, it does suck because it means things like ASL are subject to being stopped by Blizzard's incredibly slow processes (empirical data on that one), so I get the anger. Their newer titles are up for opinion, I personally loved Heroes for a long time but don't enjoy it so much anymore. Overwatch just isn't my flavor, but objectively neither of them are low-quality titles.
Personally it's not even about their new games but how they manage them. I liked a lot of post 2010 games they produced, but now I actually hate and stopped playing any of them due to how many times they patched and ruined everything possible. My gf plays retail WoW and she told me they fucked up game again with massive changes, huge ton of ppl unsubbing and there's shitshow going on general forum. Not only they managed to lose their oldschool players long ago but make newschool ones upset too.
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On January 19 2018 07:58 outscar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 06:58 SchAmToo wrote:On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago.... We're talking 100% about esports, which Blizzard barely, if at all, had a team for back then. Blizzard, rightfully (although maybe mishandled) is trying to keep their IP from being associated with things they don't want it associated with, so they instituted a lot of legal teams over it. This also nets them money/control, but I think by removing sponsors like alcohol, it's not a shoot for tons of money... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Now, it does suck because it means things like ASL are subject to being stopped by Blizzard's incredibly slow processes (empirical data on that one), so I get the anger. Their newer titles are up for opinion, I personally loved Heroes for a long time but don't enjoy it so much anymore. Overwatch just isn't my flavor, but objectively neither of them are low-quality titles. Personally it's not even about their new games but how they manage them. I liked a lot of post 2010 games they produced, but now I actually hate and stopped playing any of them due to how many times they patched and ruined everything possible. My gf plays retail WoW and she told me they fucked up game again with massive changes, huge ton of ppl unsubbing and there's shitshow going on general forum. Not only they managed to lose their oldschool players long ago but make newschool ones upset too.
Your opinion is based on the screaming minority. Nothing you are saying has any real substance. Its just 0ldsch00l c00l.
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On January 19 2018 08:04 Heyjoray wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 07:58 outscar wrote:On January 19 2018 06:58 SchAmToo wrote:On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago.... We're talking 100% about esports, which Blizzard barely, if at all, had a team for back then. Blizzard, rightfully (although maybe mishandled) is trying to keep their IP from being associated with things they don't want it associated with, so they instituted a lot of legal teams over it. This also nets them money/control, but I think by removing sponsors like alcohol, it's not a shoot for tons of money... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Now, it does suck because it means things like ASL are subject to being stopped by Blizzard's incredibly slow processes (empirical data on that one), so I get the anger. Their newer titles are up for opinion, I personally loved Heroes for a long time but don't enjoy it so much anymore. Overwatch just isn't my flavor, but objectively neither of them are low-quality titles. Personally it's not even about their new games but how they manage them. I liked a lot of post 2010 games they produced, but now I actually hate and stopped playing any of them due to how many times they patched and ruined everything possible. My gf plays retail WoW and she told me they fucked up game again with massive changes, huge ton of ppl unsubbing and there's shitshow going on general forum. Not only they managed to lose their oldschool players long ago but make newschool ones upset too. Your opinion is based on the screaming minority. Nothing you are saying has any real substance. Its just 0ldsch00l c00l.
What did you forgot here troll? Try harder. Ppl from BW section has immune to those insects. Why don't you do something more productive, like dissing on someone on Twitch stream? There you go my lonely troll.
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On January 19 2018 06:49 Heyjoray wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 06:19 MarcoJ wrote:On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago.... Activision to clear up. That happenend in the end of 2007 after the release from WoW:Burning Crusade and before WoW:Wrath of the Lich King. So pretty much since than the quality took a nose dive, from the hardcore gamer perspective. P.S: Im not 100% sure about the WoW perception, but I know that at least since Cataclysm most hardcore WoW players were shitting on it. Not sure about WotLK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment#Games Post facts on how Activisions people influenced Blizzard. With exact examples on gameplay elements
look at hearthstone. Blizzard pre Activision always delivered state of the art games for hardcore gamers. It seemed like they believed that if they create great games they will earn enough money. Since Activision they are going the more casual route and soften up their titles. See Diablo 3, see Hots (a super soft MOBA), see Hearthstone (soft MtG), see WoW Add-ons (thats at least what vanilla hardcore player say). Cant say anything about Overwatch, never played it. But I think GGG with PoE clearly showed that there is a place for games made for hardcore gamers that can make good money.
Its obvious that Activision wants to make profit for their purchase. And its not a coincidence that Blizzard is releasing Remastered of their own classics. If they wouldn't have went so far apart from their original player base there would be no money to make from those remasters, but there is apparently.
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On January 19 2018 08:24 MarcoJ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 06:49 Heyjoray wrote:On January 19 2018 06:19 MarcoJ wrote:On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago.... Activision to clear up. That happenend in the end of 2007 after the release from WoW:Burning Crusade and before WoW:Wrath of the Lich King. So pretty much since than the quality took a nose dive, from the hardcore gamer perspective. P.S: Im not 100% sure about the WoW perception, but I know that at least since Cataclysm most hardcore WoW players were shitting on it. Not sure about WotLK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment#Games Post facts on how Activisions people influenced Blizzard. With exact examples on gameplay elements look at hearthstone. Blizzard pre Activision always delivered state of the art games for hardcore gamers. It seemed like they believed that if they create great games they will earn enough money. Since Activision they are going the more casual route and soften up their titles. See Diablo 3, see Hots (a super soft MOBA), see Hearthstone (soft MtG), see WoW Add-ons (thats at least what vanilla hardcore player say). Cant say anything about Overwatch, never played it. But I think GGG with PoE clearly showed that there is a place for games made for hardcore gamers that can make good money. Its obvious that Activision wants to make profit for their purchase. And its not a coincidence that Blizzard is releasing Remastered of their own classics. If they wouldn't have went so far apart from their original player base there would be no money to make from those remasters, but there is apparently.
Why wasnt Warcraft 3 more hardcore than Brood War?
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On January 19 2018 08:24 outscar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 08:04 Heyjoray wrote:On January 19 2018 07:58 outscar wrote:On January 19 2018 06:58 SchAmToo wrote:On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago.... We're talking 100% about esports, which Blizzard barely, if at all, had a team for back then. Blizzard, rightfully (although maybe mishandled) is trying to keep their IP from being associated with things they don't want it associated with, so they instituted a lot of legal teams over it. This also nets them money/control, but I think by removing sponsors like alcohol, it's not a shoot for tons of money... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Now, it does suck because it means things like ASL are subject to being stopped by Blizzard's incredibly slow processes (empirical data on that one), so I get the anger. Their newer titles are up for opinion, I personally loved Heroes for a long time but don't enjoy it so much anymore. Overwatch just isn't my flavor, but objectively neither of them are low-quality titles. Personally it's not even about their new games but how they manage them. I liked a lot of post 2010 games they produced, but now I actually hate and stopped playing any of them due to how many times they patched and ruined everything possible. My gf plays retail WoW and she told me they fucked up game again with massive changes, huge ton of ppl unsubbing and there's shitshow going on general forum. Not only they managed to lose their oldschool players long ago but make newschool ones upset too. Your opinion is based on the screaming minority. Nothing you are saying has any real substance. Its just 0ldsch00l c00l. What did you forgot here troll? Try harder. Ppl from BW section has immune to those insects. Why don't you do something more productive, like dissing on someone on Twitch stream? There you go my lonely troll.
Post exact facts about why WoW is worse
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On January 19 2018 08:28 Heyjoray wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 08:24 outscar wrote:On January 19 2018 08:04 Heyjoray wrote:On January 19 2018 07:58 outscar wrote:On January 19 2018 06:58 SchAmToo wrote:On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago.... We're talking 100% about esports, which Blizzard barely, if at all, had a team for back then. Blizzard, rightfully (although maybe mishandled) is trying to keep their IP from being associated with things they don't want it associated with, so they instituted a lot of legal teams over it. This also nets them money/control, but I think by removing sponsors like alcohol, it's not a shoot for tons of money... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Now, it does suck because it means things like ASL are subject to being stopped by Blizzard's incredibly slow processes (empirical data on that one), so I get the anger. Their newer titles are up for opinion, I personally loved Heroes for a long time but don't enjoy it so much anymore. Overwatch just isn't my flavor, but objectively neither of them are low-quality titles. Personally it's not even about their new games but how they manage them. I liked a lot of post 2010 games they produced, but now I actually hate and stopped playing any of them due to how many times they patched and ruined everything possible. My gf plays retail WoW and she told me they fucked up game again with massive changes, huge ton of ppl unsubbing and there's shitshow going on general forum. Not only they managed to lose their oldschool players long ago but make newschool ones upset too. Your opinion is based on the screaming minority. Nothing you are saying has any real substance. Its just 0ldsch00l c00l. What did you forgot here troll? Try harder. Ppl from BW section has immune to those insects. Why don't you do something more productive, like dissing on someone on Twitch stream? There you go my lonely troll. Post exact facts about why WoW is worse
Post exact facts about why WoW isn't worse.
Why wasnt BroodWar more hardcore than WarCraft 3?
Your opinion is based on the screaming minority. Nothing you are saying has any real substance.
Took long enough for your troll brain to answer. GG no re.
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On January 19 2018 12:42 JacktheTerr wrote:https://us.battle.net/forums/en/starcraft/topic/20760966718 post i made to OPPRESS blizzard we need an army to make a difference. EVERY VOICE MATTERS. Please go post just tell them how you feel and like comments spread the word. the time is now we are the resistance.
only got a desktop keyboard atm. but made a post... #fuckyoublizzardyouaretheworst
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They might wanna line up their next big patch release with ASL5? There's gonna be growing interest in the game once ASL comes out so they might wanna offer a better gaming experience for returning players, just a guess tho.
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On January 19 2018 15:38 TT1 wrote:
They might wanna line up their next big patch release with ASL5? There's gonna be growing interest in the game once ASL comes out so they might wanna offer a better gaming experience for returning players, just a guess tho.
this sounds overly optimistic and doesn't line up with facts imo. Those who wanted to return have already done so. Some have already left again, in fact. I really doubt the interest for the game hasn't already reached it's peak and that it's going down steadily from there.
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On January 19 2018 08:25 Heyjoray wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 08:24 MarcoJ wrote:On January 19 2018 06:49 Heyjoray wrote:On January 19 2018 06:19 MarcoJ wrote:On January 19 2018 06:01 Pippah wrote:
Somewhere inbetween the original WoW and the inception of SC:2 blizzard completely lost touch with conserving their image.
More and more they taint their own name - I wonder how many "bad titles" and money grabs they can produce before they have lost the esteemed value of their name.
I for one have stopped purchasing new blizzard titles - but that was a long time ago.... Activision to clear up. That happenend in the end of 2007 after the release from WoW:Burning Crusade and before WoW:Wrath of the Lich King. So pretty much since than the quality took a nose dive, from the hardcore gamer perspective. P.S: Im not 100% sure about the WoW perception, but I know that at least since Cataclysm most hardcore WoW players were shitting on it. Not sure about WotLK. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment#Games Post facts on how Activisions people influenced Blizzard. With exact examples on gameplay elements look at hearthstone. Blizzard pre Activision always delivered state of the art games for hardcore gamers. It seemed like they believed that if they create great games they will earn enough money. Since Activision they are going the more casual route and soften up their titles. See Diablo 3, see Hots (a super soft MOBA), see Hearthstone (soft MtG), see WoW Add-ons (thats at least what vanilla hardcore player say). Cant say anything about Overwatch, never played it. But I think GGG with PoE clearly showed that there is a place for games made for hardcore gamers that can make good money. Its obvious that Activision wants to make profit for their purchase. And its not a coincidence that Blizzard is releasing Remastered of their own classics. If they wouldn't have went so far apart from their original player base there would be no money to make from those remasters, but there is apparently. Why wasnt Warcraft 3 more hardcore than Brood War?
post exact facts why warcraft 3 isnt more hardcore than Brood War.
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Warcraft 3 is more like chess, SC is more like boxing.
I mean in W3 you focus on relatively few elements and try to master them. SC is just a war all over the place - the more agile player usually wins.
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