EPTNew Protoss Victory Screen - Page 6
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riotjune
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Wrath
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On June 03 2017 08:18 Dazed. wrote: Dont forget, he will shine so bright as to be almost glaring. More importantly... Will he have a cigarette while shining in defeat? | ||
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miercat
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FireBlast!
United Kingdom5251 Posts
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lestye
United States4186 Posts
On June 03 2017 08:55 FireBlast! wrote: My 2 cents - in the new images so far the characters have become too anthropomorphised and have lost their mystique i.e. we don't need to see a zealot being all triumphant and fist pumping, brows furrowed to indicate victory. Same with the hydralisk, all menacing and snarling. Just keep it simple and let the stylisation speak for the lore dammit I don't see why they wouldn't be triumphant and fist bumping, that completely fits the character. I think people are like projecting their idea of protoss as mindless emotionless husks when that couldn't be further from the truth. | ||
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XenOsky
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On June 02 2017 23:04 lestye wrote: The Protoss from SC were known to be a warrior race though, not engimatic to the extent they're completely stoic. All the protoss voice lines make me feel that they would totally be down to say "Let's get it on, bitches!" , as they seem to be ones that get totally pumped for glorious battle. They're not beings devoid of emotion. I know the quotes but that doesn't need to translate to a weird pose to overtly say "Let's get it on, bitches!" We already know they're ready for glorious death in battle but they don't need to go Hollywood style and further push it up on us. And now that I think about, this is a victory screen. All the victory screens are depicting the race's warrior/s after the battle was won. Now they've changed it to a heroic last moment (i.e. the Zerg one) except the Zealot here looks like he's in his room all alone, doing silly poses. | ||
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lestye
United States4186 Posts
On June 03 2017 11:13 c3rberUs wrote: I know the quotes but that doesn't need to translate to a weird pose to overtly say "Let's get it on, bitches!" We already know they're ready for glorious death in battle but they don't need to go Hollywood style and further push it up on us. And now that I think about, this is a victory screen. All the victory screens are depicting the race's warrior/s after the battle was won. Now they've changed it to a heroic last moment (i.e. the Zerg one) except the Zealot here looks like he's in his room all alone, doing silly poses. I dont understand hows that blatanly hollywood. If you were a zealot on a carrier, a soldier on a ship, and you received news that your faction obtained a decisive victory, I would imagine a huzzah or a hurrah would be completely inappropriate. Comparatively, the BW pose where it just feels like they loaded the model and didnt bother rigging him a posture. I like how someone above described it, it was completely default, not what you would expect from a victory screen. I will concede maybe they didnt go far enough with the liberties, it is silly he's on a ship instead of on a battlefield. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On June 03 2017 09:12 lestye wrote: They seemed like stoic warrior monks to me. I dont know, I got from the protoss an ancient and arcane race, mysterious and proud, notI don't see why they wouldn't be triumphant and fist bumping, that completely fits the character. I think people are like projecting their idea of protoss as mindless emotionless husks when that couldn't be further from the truth. "FOR AIUR! *pumps fist in the air dramatically* Yeah!" It's a little ridiculous even if a human was doing it, to be honest. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10688 Posts
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lestye
United States4186 Posts
On June 03 2017 12:36 Dazed. wrote: They seemed like stoic warrior monks to me. I dont know, I got from the protoss an ancient and arcane race, mysterious and proud, not "FOR AIUR! *pumps fist in the air dramatically* Yeah!" It's a little ridiculous even if a human was doing it, to be honest. I think they could be all of things, but like I've said in th is thread, they're ultimately a warrior race, kicking ass is what their whole shit is about. I think that's reflected in the zealot quotes. "What battle calls?" "My life for Aiur!" "All for the Empire." "Doom to all who threaten the homeworld!" "Honor guide me!" I could totally see these warriors raising their blades after a glorious battle. That's totally in their character. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On June 03 2017 11:42 lestye wrote: I dont understand hows that blatanly hollywood. If you were a zealot on a carrier, a soldier on a ship, and you received news that your faction obtained a decisive victory, I would imagine a huzzah or a hurrah would be completely inappropriate. Comparatively, the BW pose where it just feels like they loaded the model and didnt bother rigging him a posture. I like how someone above described it, it was completely default, not what you would expect from a victory screen. I will concede maybe they didnt go far enough with the liberties, it is silly he's on a ship instead of on a battlefield. The new pose looks less more like "huzzah we won!" than "photographer: now do the ready for battle pose." I do concede though that the original pose was what you said. But compare that to the new one, the old pose was more in line with the warrior monk type. | ||
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juvenal
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On June 03 2017 11:42 lestye wrote: the BW pose where it just feels like they loaded the model and didnt bother rigging him a posture. obviously what really happened! The technology just wasn't there yet to manipulate and render a 3d model! Look at the terran's defeat screen - just loaded a model! Right? | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On June 03 2017 12:43 GGzerG wrote: Disliking bad art doesnt mean you arent appreciative of the remastered generally, dont be silly.People will say they think it is bad if that's what most others are stating, any oldschool player is grateful. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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lestye
United States4186 Posts
On June 03 2017 13:37 juvenal wrote: obviously what really happened! The technology just wasn't there yet to manipulate and render a 3d model! Look at the terran's defeat screen - just loaded a model! Right? What? The Terran defeat screen there's actually a pose, emotion on the character's face, deliberate rigging. That's completely different than my critique of the Protoss screen where its just the zealot standing there doing nothing. | ||
GTR
51512 Posts
On June 03 2017 08:55 FireBlast! wrote: My 2 cents - in the new images so far the characters have become too anthropomorphised and have lost their mystique i.e. we don't need to see a zealot being all triumphant and fist pumping, brows furrowed to indicate victory. Same with the hydralisk, all menacing and snarling. Just keep it simple and let the stylisation speak for the lore dammit jesus christ there's a name i haven't seen in a while | ||
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Jealous
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On June 03 2017 14:59 GTR wrote: jesus christ there's a name i haven't seen in a while Wow, seconded. | ||
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Lebesgue
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On June 03 2017 06:32 Moopower wrote: I don't like the art style direction of sc2, and this new protoss victory screen screams sc2 art style. For that reason I'm out! -Shark Tank. But seriously, I noticed an artwork style trend difference from the 2010s and the 1990s. In anime, the 1990s to early 2000s they looked more gritty and more realistic, colors were not always so bright or shiny or plastic looking and to me felt more relatable artwork. Now anime artwork is all polished, glazed like barbie dolls and shiny. Same kind of concept here with sc2. Everything is so polished and shiny, for me it detracts and makes it less relatable to me. Call me old fashioned but I am not into lolli artwork or super shiny everything. This plasticky and shiny look is now everywhere. I completely agree with you that it looks extremely odd, not real. It also breaks immersion. And this trend is everywhere in gaming. Recently saw the remake of System Shock and I was so disappointed to see that go for all this glitter... Same here... | ||
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Starlightsun
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