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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3392 Posts
June 02 2017 23:21 GMT
#101
Aiur fuck yea
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
June 02 2017 23:22 GMT
#102
On June 03 2017 08:18 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 07:50 ICanFlyLow wrote:
On June 03 2017 04:27 azrael1965 wrote:
It's ok. I guess the humans won't look like this anymore either.
[image loading]


I expect the marines in the defeat and victory screen for Terran to look bulky as hell, i mean if you look at the original screen the marine looks like he is wearing a suit, I'm guessing in the new one he is gonna look alot more like a transformer
Dont forget, he will shine so bright as to be almost glaring.


More importantly... Will he have a cigarette while shining in defeat?
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
June 02 2017 23:41 GMT
#103
Not the best picture. Why is the zealot randomly posing like that in the spaceship? It doesn't make sense. Old picture is better in terms of design.
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
June 02 2017 23:55 GMT
#104
My 2 cents - in the new images so far the characters have become too anthropomorphised and have lost their mystique i.e. we don't need to see a zealot being all triumphant and fist pumping, brows furrowed to indicate victory. Same with the hydralisk, all menacing and snarling. Just keep it simple and let the stylisation speak for the lore dammit
Victoria Concordia Crescit
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
June 03 2017 00:12 GMT
#105
On June 03 2017 08:55 FireBlast! wrote:
My 2 cents - in the new images so far the characters have become too anthropomorphised and have lost their mystique i.e. we don't need to see a zealot being all triumphant and fist pumping, brows furrowed to indicate victory. Same with the hydralisk, all menacing and snarling. Just keep it simple and let the stylisation speak for the lore dammit

I don't see why they wouldn't be triumphant and fist bumping, that completely fits the character. I think people are like projecting their idea of protoss as mindless emotionless husks when that couldn't be further from the truth.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2257 Posts
June 03 2017 00:19 GMT
#106
zerg one is better, by a lot
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
June 03 2017 02:13 GMT
#107
On June 02 2017 23:04 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2017 22:51 c3rberUs wrote:
I like that they're putting in details on the armor and stuff (sc2-izing aside). Imo, Protoss designs back in the day were too bland in that department. However what's putting me off is that the original image was meant to give the zealot a mysterious image while the new one is more like "Let's get it on, bitches!" Anyone who's read campaign text should surely know how Blizz always dubbed the Protoss as the enigmatic and calculating race.

It's not anywhere near bad, in fact it's cool. But the vibe it gives off is doesn't fit SC Protoss.


The Protoss from SC were known to be a warrior race though, not engimatic to the extent they're completely stoic. All the protoss voice lines make me feel that they would totally be down to say "Let's get it on, bitches!" , as they seem to be ones that get totally pumped for glorious battle. They're not beings devoid of emotion.

I know the quotes but that doesn't need to translate to a weird pose to overtly say "Let's get it on, bitches!" We already know they're ready for glorious death in battle but they don't need to go Hollywood style and further push it up on us.

And now that I think about, this is a victory screen. All the victory screens are depicting the race's warrior/s after the battle was won. Now they've changed it to a heroic last moment (i.e. the Zerg one) except the Zealot here looks like he's in his room all alone, doing silly poses.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
June 03 2017 02:42 GMT
#108
On June 03 2017 11:13 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2017 23:04 lestye wrote:
On June 02 2017 22:51 c3rberUs wrote:
I like that they're putting in details on the armor and stuff (sc2-izing aside). Imo, Protoss designs back in the day were too bland in that department. However what's putting me off is that the original image was meant to give the zealot a mysterious image while the new one is more like "Let's get it on, bitches!" Anyone who's read campaign text should surely know how Blizz always dubbed the Protoss as the enigmatic and calculating race.

It's not anywhere near bad, in fact it's cool. But the vibe it gives off is doesn't fit SC Protoss.


The Protoss from SC were known to be a warrior race though, not engimatic to the extent they're completely stoic. All the protoss voice lines make me feel that they would totally be down to say "Let's get it on, bitches!" , as they seem to be ones that get totally pumped for glorious battle. They're not beings devoid of emotion.

I know the quotes but that doesn't need to translate to a weird pose to overtly say "Let's get it on, bitches!" We already know they're ready for glorious death in battle but they don't need to go Hollywood style and further push it up on us.

And now that I think about, this is a victory screen. All the victory screens are depicting the race's warrior/s after the battle was won. Now they've changed it to a heroic last moment (i.e. the Zerg one) except the Zealot here looks like he's in his room all alone, doing silly poses.

I dont understand hows that blatanly hollywood. If you were a zealot on a carrier, a soldier on a ship, and you received news that your faction obtained a decisive victory, I would imagine a huzzah or a hurrah would be completely inappropriate.

Comparatively, the BW pose where it just feels like they loaded the model and didnt bother rigging him a posture. I like how someone above described it, it was completely default, not what you would expect from a victory screen.

I will concede maybe they didnt go far enough with the liberties, it is silly he's on a ship instead of on a battlefield.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-03 03:36:46
June 03 2017 03:36 GMT
#109
On June 03 2017 09:12 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 08:55 FireBlast! wrote:
My 2 cents - in the new images so far the characters have become too anthropomorphised and have lost their mystique i.e. we don't need to see a zealot being all triumphant and fist pumping, brows furrowed to indicate victory. Same with the hydralisk, all menacing and snarling. Just keep it simple and let the stylisation speak for the lore dammit

I don't see why they wouldn't be triumphant and fist bumping, that completely fits the character. I think people are like projecting their idea of protoss as mindless emotionless husks when that couldn't be further from the truth.
They seemed like stoic warrior monks to me. I dont know, I got from the protoss an ancient and arcane race, mysterious and proud, not

"FOR AIUR! *pumps fist in the air dramatically* Yeah!"

It's a little ridiculous even if a human was doing it, to be honest.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
June 03 2017 03:43 GMT
#110
People will say they think it is bad if that's what most others are stating, any oldschool player is grateful.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
June 03 2017 03:44 GMT
#111
On June 03 2017 12:36 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 09:12 lestye wrote:
On June 03 2017 08:55 FireBlast! wrote:
My 2 cents - in the new images so far the characters have become too anthropomorphised and have lost their mystique i.e. we don't need to see a zealot being all triumphant and fist pumping, brows furrowed to indicate victory. Same with the hydralisk, all menacing and snarling. Just keep it simple and let the stylisation speak for the lore dammit

I don't see why they wouldn't be triumphant and fist bumping, that completely fits the character. I think people are like projecting their idea of protoss as mindless emotionless husks when that couldn't be further from the truth.
They seemed like stoic warrior monks to me. I dont know, I got from the protoss an ancient and arcane race, mysterious and proud, not

"FOR AIUR! *pumps fist in the air dramatically* Yeah!"

It's a little ridiculous even if a human was doing it, to be honest.

I think they could be all of things, but like I've said in th is thread, they're ultimately a warrior race, kicking ass is what their whole shit is about. I think that's reflected in the zealot quotes.

"What battle calls?" "My life for Aiur!" "All for the Empire." "Doom to all who threaten the homeworld!" "Honor guide me!"

I could totally see these warriors raising their blades after a glorious battle. That's totally in their character.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
June 03 2017 03:45 GMT
#112
On June 03 2017 11:42 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 11:13 c3rberUs wrote:
On June 02 2017 23:04 lestye wrote:
On June 02 2017 22:51 c3rberUs wrote:
I like that they're putting in details on the armor and stuff (sc2-izing aside). Imo, Protoss designs back in the day were too bland in that department. However what's putting me off is that the original image was meant to give the zealot a mysterious image while the new one is more like "Let's get it on, bitches!" Anyone who's read campaign text should surely know how Blizz always dubbed the Protoss as the enigmatic and calculating race.

It's not anywhere near bad, in fact it's cool. But the vibe it gives off is doesn't fit SC Protoss.


The Protoss from SC were known to be a warrior race though, not engimatic to the extent they're completely stoic. All the protoss voice lines make me feel that they would totally be down to say "Let's get it on, bitches!" , as they seem to be ones that get totally pumped for glorious battle. They're not beings devoid of emotion.

I know the quotes but that doesn't need to translate to a weird pose to overtly say "Let's get it on, bitches!" We already know they're ready for glorious death in battle but they don't need to go Hollywood style and further push it up on us.

And now that I think about, this is a victory screen. All the victory screens are depicting the race's warrior/s after the battle was won. Now they've changed it to a heroic last moment (i.e. the Zerg one) except the Zealot here looks like he's in his room all alone, doing silly poses.

I dont understand hows that blatanly hollywood. If you were a zealot on a carrier, a soldier on a ship, and you received news that your faction obtained a decisive victory, I would imagine a huzzah or a hurrah would be completely inappropriate.

Comparatively, the BW pose where it just feels like they loaded the model and didnt bother rigging him a posture. I like how someone above described it, it was completely default, not what you would expect from a victory screen.

I will concede maybe they didnt go far enough with the liberties, it is silly he's on a ship instead of on a battlefield.

The new pose looks less more like "huzzah we won!" than "photographer: now do the ready for battle pose."

I do concede though that the original pose was what you said. But compare that to the new one, the old pose was more in line with the warrior monk type.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
June 03 2017 04:37 GMT
#113
On June 03 2017 11:42 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 11:13 c3rberUs wrote:
On June 02 2017 23:04 lestye wrote:
On June 02 2017 22:51 c3rberUs wrote:
I like that they're putting in details on the armor and stuff (sc2-izing aside). Imo, Protoss designs back in the day were too bland in that department. However what's putting me off is that the original image was meant to give the zealot a mysterious image while the new one is more like "Let's get it on, bitches!" Anyone who's read campaign text should surely know how Blizz always dubbed the Protoss as the enigmatic and calculating race.

It's not anywhere near bad, in fact it's cool. But the vibe it gives off is doesn't fit SC Protoss.


The Protoss from SC were known to be a warrior race though, not engimatic to the extent they're completely stoic. All the protoss voice lines make me feel that they would totally be down to say "Let's get it on, bitches!" , as they seem to be ones that get totally pumped for glorious battle. They're not beings devoid of emotion.

I know the quotes but that doesn't need to translate to a weird pose to overtly say "Let's get it on, bitches!" We already know they're ready for glorious death in battle but they don't need to go Hollywood style and further push it up on us.

And now that I think about, this is a victory screen. All the victory screens are depicting the race's warrior/s after the battle was won. Now they've changed it to a heroic last moment (i.e. the Zerg one) except the Zealot here looks like he's in his room all alone, doing silly poses.


the BW pose where it just feels like they loaded the model and didnt bother rigging him a posture.

obviously what really happened! The technology just wasn't there yet to manipulate and render a 3d model! Look at the terran's defeat screen - just loaded a model! Right?
Michael Probu
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
June 03 2017 04:53 GMT
#114
On June 03 2017 12:43 GGzerG wrote:
People will say they think it is bad if that's what most others are stating, any oldschool player is grateful.
Disliking bad art doesnt mean you arent appreciative of the remastered generally, dont be silly.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 03 2017 05:04 GMT
#115
I don't approve of the new zealot because that's the cool thing to do.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
June 03 2017 05:39 GMT
#116
On June 03 2017 13:37 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 11:42 lestye wrote:
On June 03 2017 11:13 c3rberUs wrote:
On June 02 2017 23:04 lestye wrote:
On June 02 2017 22:51 c3rberUs wrote:
I like that they're putting in details on the armor and stuff (sc2-izing aside). Imo, Protoss designs back in the day were too bland in that department. However what's putting me off is that the original image was meant to give the zealot a mysterious image while the new one is more like "Let's get it on, bitches!" Anyone who's read campaign text should surely know how Blizz always dubbed the Protoss as the enigmatic and calculating race.

It's not anywhere near bad, in fact it's cool. But the vibe it gives off is doesn't fit SC Protoss.


The Protoss from SC were known to be a warrior race though, not engimatic to the extent they're completely stoic. All the protoss voice lines make me feel that they would totally be down to say "Let's get it on, bitches!" , as they seem to be ones that get totally pumped for glorious battle. They're not beings devoid of emotion.

I know the quotes but that doesn't need to translate to a weird pose to overtly say "Let's get it on, bitches!" We already know they're ready for glorious death in battle but they don't need to go Hollywood style and further push it up on us.

And now that I think about, this is a victory screen. All the victory screens are depicting the race's warrior/s after the battle was won. Now they've changed it to a heroic last moment (i.e. the Zerg one) except the Zealot here looks like he's in his room all alone, doing silly poses.


the BW pose where it just feels like they loaded the model and didnt bother rigging him a posture.

obviously what really happened! The technology just wasn't there yet to manipulate and render a 3d model! Look at the terran's defeat screen - just loaded a model! Right?


What? The Terran defeat screen there's actually a pose, emotion on the character's face, deliberate rigging. That's completely different than my critique of the Protoss screen where its just the zealot standing there doing nothing.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51426 Posts
June 03 2017 05:59 GMT
#117
On June 03 2017 08:55 FireBlast! wrote:
My 2 cents - in the new images so far the characters have become too anthropomorphised and have lost their mystique i.e. we don't need to see a zealot being all triumphant and fist pumping, brows furrowed to indicate victory. Same with the hydralisk, all menacing and snarling. Just keep it simple and let the stylisation speak for the lore dammit


jesus christ there's a name i haven't seen in a while
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10117 Posts
June 03 2017 06:26 GMT
#118
On June 03 2017 14:59 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 08:55 FireBlast! wrote:
My 2 cents - in the new images so far the characters have become too anthropomorphised and have lost their mystique i.e. we don't need to see a zealot being all triumphant and fist pumping, brows furrowed to indicate victory. Same with the hydralisk, all menacing and snarling. Just keep it simple and let the stylisation speak for the lore dammit


jesus christ there's a name i haven't seen in a while

Wow, seconded.
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
June 03 2017 06:46 GMT
#119
On June 03 2017 06:32 Moopower wrote:
I don't like the art style direction of sc2, and this new protoss victory screen screams sc2 art style. For that reason I'm out! -Shark Tank.

But seriously, I noticed an artwork style trend difference from the 2010s and the 1990s. In anime, the 1990s to early 2000s they looked more gritty and more realistic, colors were not always so bright or shiny or plastic looking and to me felt more relatable artwork. Now anime artwork is all polished, glazed like barbie dolls and shiny. Same kind of concept here with sc2. Everything is so polished and shiny, for me it detracts and makes it less relatable to me. Call me old fashioned but I am not into lolli artwork or super shiny everything.


This plasticky and shiny look is now everywhere. I completely agree with you that it looks extremely odd, not real. It also breaks immersion. And this trend is everywhere in gaming. Recently saw the remake of System Shock and I was so disappointed to see that go for all this glitter... Same here...


Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
June 03 2017 07:36 GMT
#120
Old one looks way better.
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