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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
November 08 2016 16:32 GMT
#41
no announcement at Blizzcon means to me it won't come. You don't spread these rumors about announcements when you can't deliver. BW HD remake wasn't mentioned with 1 word at blizzcon. To me, the topic is more then over, should be closed like said above.
Broodwar for life!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6795 Posts
November 08 2016 16:37 GMT
#42
Here we go ...
Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
November 08 2016 16:43 GMT
#43
On November 09 2016 01:32 Cele wrote:
no announcement at Blizzcon means to me it won't come. You don't spread these rumors about announcements when you can't deliver. BW HD remake wasn't mentioned with 1 word at blizzcon. To me, the topic is more then over, should be closed like said above.

So even after we get a guy with personal insider knowledge AND Blizzard posts official job postings of a remake you won't believe it? I will bet you literally anything that the remake is coming. You seem to be under the false assumption that Blizzard is obliged to reveal everything they're working on at every Blizzcon.
Tyrant.
biryusky
Profile Joined September 2012
70 Posts
November 08 2016 16:48 GMT
#44
On November 09 2016 01:08 Djabanete wrote:
(ii) They are doing it in the SC2 engine, which is apparently very extensible and you can do "almost anything" in it;

why in the world..bw needs a battle.net rework, not a unit model rework. If their finished product is anything like sc2's lobby system it'll just anger the bw fans.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
November 08 2016 16:59 GMT
#45
On November 09 2016 01:43 Jae Zedong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 01:32 Cele wrote:
no announcement at Blizzcon means to me it won't come. You don't spread these rumors about announcements when you can't deliver. BW HD remake wasn't mentioned with 1 word at blizzcon. To me, the topic is more then over, should be closed like said above.

So even after we get a guy with personal insider knowledge AND Blizzard posts official job postings of a remake you won't believe it? I will bet you literally anything that the remake is coming. You seem to be under the false assumption that Blizzard is obliged to reveal everything they're working on at every Blizzcon.


ye my friends friends step grandsons daughter works at Blizzard too. From that source i can 1,5 million % guarantee you that they are not working on BW HD.

Im simply ignoring people who claim to have insider knowledge but can't provide any evidence.

To the job posting: could as well be a minor patch, could already be cancelled, could be anything.
Broodwar for life!
notgayDragon
Profile Joined November 2016
142 Posts
November 08 2016 17:08 GMT
#46
If that guy is telling the truth, there goes any hope of a serious BW revival outside of Korea. The ONE thing people didn't want, the ONEEEE thing people asked Blizzard to NEVER do was make BW in SC2 no matter their technology or whatever bullshit, and they supposedly want to do it anyway.

This is why Blizzard fucks everything up these days. They refuse to admit they just can't do some things, and when they do admit they don't have the technology it's some bullshit excuse for something they could easily do.
"I not gay, sorry."
Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 17:17:11
November 08 2016 17:14 GMT
#47
On November 09 2016 02:08 notgayDragon wrote:
If that guy is telling the truth, there goes any hope of a serious BW revival outside of Korea. The ONE thing people didn't want, the ONEEEE thing people asked Blizzard to NEVER do was make BW in SC2 no matter their technology or whatever bullshit, and they supposedly want to do it anyway.

This is why Blizzard fucks everything up these days. They refuse to admit they just can't do some things, and when they do admit they don't have the technology it's some bullshit excuse for something they could easily do.

EXACTLY.

It's SO arrogant to do it in SC2's engine, and it's silly that they have any hope that balance will be preserved. The slightest alteration of unit behavior caused by this shift could have fatal consequenses for balance.

And when the inevitable balance problems occur? Then it's time for Blizzard's endless carousel of balance tweaks a la SC2. Thanks, but no thanks.

In the previous speculation thread that was dozens of pages long, no one even contemplated the possibility that it might be in SC2's engine. It's that ridiculous.
Tyrant.
notgayDragon
Profile Joined November 2016
142 Posts
November 08 2016 17:24 GMT
#48
We wouldn't get that endless carousel of balance tweaks like SC2 does, we'd be left in the dirt because more likely than not it'll be something in the arcade nobody will ever touch because the arcade doesn't even fucking load.

Really, I can't get the arcade to load. My PC locks up and when it does load it takes several minutes. Doesn't matter because nobody plays it anyway.
"I not gay, sorry."
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
November 08 2016 17:24 GMT
#49
I don't understand why people who want to keep discussing can't do it or people who might come around to the forums can't find thread cause its buried...... just because some people think things have been discussed to death doesn't mean others also think that way, if you don't want to keep discussing just don't and let others do? even if it does run around in circles....
notgayDragon
Profile Joined November 2016
142 Posts
November 08 2016 17:32 GMT
#50
The only reason I put any trust in that guy's post is because he's been around a very long time and if he lied there'd be a lynch mob. Once again, Blizzard has crushed my hopes.

It's as if they do this shit on purpose, you know?
"I not gay, sorry."
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 17:47:10
November 08 2016 17:44 GMT
#51
On November 08 2016 09:07 -Archangel- wrote:
That is bullshit, if they need 2-3 years to do D2HD or BWHD they might as well make D4 or SC3.


You shouldnt assume that this project has the same funding or as many people working on it as a next big title has. I feel like its a side thing for them so they can cash in on the younger people who didnt grow up playing these games.
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zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
November 08 2016 17:50 GMT
#52
On November 09 2016 01:31 eviltomahawk wrote:
Now I wonder if they're doing it with 3D assets or going with sprites like the Starcrafts mod.

See this is the make or break of BW Remastered. If they just stick to sprites and replicate the movement/mechanics that make BW what it is, I'm okay with it.

On the other hand if they just make 3D models and just call it "BW HD", I'm not sure how well the community will react (if positive at all).

I mean, we already have this in the arcade in SC2 as fan-made projects. I'm hoping they just stick with sprites
"Pumpkin mut-muts!" ~ Tasteless
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
November 08 2016 18:09 GMT
#53
I mean Blizzard cannot try to kill SCBW actively in Korea anymore, since there are no Kespa sanctioned tournaments. They cannot force any Korean to switch. People won't switch and pay money for an obviously inferior game with supposedly 'better' graphics.

Even if they bring out SCBW HD, it will fail so hard, it will be as dead as LOTV.

I say Blizzard, bring it and crash as you always do. People in Korea will hate you even more after that huge middlefinger towards the Korean scene, who all in unison do not want any Blizzard involvement in the future.
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lelfreg
Profile Joined December 2014
92 Posts
November 08 2016 18:12 GMT
#54
Have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, you won't be the target audience for this?
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 18:13:35
November 08 2016 18:12 GMT
#55
however oddly enough a lot of people in korea are playing overwatch in pc bangs o_o
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 08 2016 18:15 GMT
#56
On November 08 2016 17:06 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 14:27 BigFan wrote:
On November 08 2016 07:56 Jae Zedong wrote:
On November 08 2016 07:42 BigFan wrote:
I fail to see the purpose of this thread tbh. Community has known about the SCII options but try as they might, it's not BW HD. Also, rumours are just that, rumors. Once blizzard or a reputable source state that BW HD is coming, then I'll believe it.

You don't believe in Blizzard's own words?

On November 08 2016 07:42 Blizzard wrote:
Compelling stories. Intense multiplayer. Endless replayability. Qualities that made StarCraft, Warcraft III, and Diablo II the titans of their day. [...] We’re restoring them to glory [...]

You can interpret those words however you like but they certainly don't mean that BW HD is coming.

On November 08 2016 11:13 Poly_Optimize wrote:
There was a Blizzard event during last weekend and I think it is totally normal to speak about highlights and also disappointments.. Many of us wanted to see something about their all time favorite game, but it did not happen. It still remains fun to chat about possible features of a remastered BW.

2 posts out of 10 said there should not be any posts about bw hd and they were made by TL Writers. Is it forbidden to pronounce the words Brood War HD?
On November 08 2016 07:42 BigFan wrote:
I fail to see the purpose of this thread tbh. Community has known about the SCII options but try as they might, it's not BW HD. Also, rumours are just that, rumors. Once blizzard or a reputable source state that BW HD is coming, then I'll believe it.

On November 08 2016 10:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why do we have a new BW HD thread?

wait until something is actually announced.

Btw, there is a new thread because the other ones are closed. For me it is totally normal to talk about BW HD. For years, Star Wars fans spent a lot of time to create and imagine stuffs for their favorite movies. It is normal for gamers to do the same with their favorite video game.

Other thread was closed because as BR stated, it was discussed to death. There's nothing more to be discussed at this point. Once we have some actual proof that BW HD is in the works (aka reputable source or Blizzard themselves), then it makes sense to keep it going.


I don't think you guys should get to make the call on when to close a thread just because it has been 'discussed to death'.
As long as people still want to discuss it, they should be free to do this. This is the BW forum.
Also your statement is contradictory, because if it were discussed to death then new threads wouldn't pop up.
Stop trying to silence people plz and let them decide when it's actually discussed to death.

Also, if you guys don't have something new to bring to the discussion, please refrain from bringing the negativity.

I didn't close the other thread and never planned on closing this one either. Please re-read my first post. I merely stated that there isn't any evidence aside from a rumour and that blizzcon (implied in my post) was the best chance for us to hear about BW HD. If people want to keep speculating, by all means, go ahead. I'm not planning to stop anyone lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 08 2016 18:22 GMT
#57
On November 09 2016 03:12 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
however oddly enough a lot of people in korea are playing overwatch in pc bangs o_o

They should remake BW in Overwatch
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 19:17:43
November 08 2016 19:13 GMT
#58
On November 09 2016 01:08 Djabanete wrote:
Sorry for being "that guy" who claims inside knowledge and won't name the source, but I spoke with a former Blizzard coder plus friend of family while I was at Blizzcon, and he said that:

(i) They are definitely working on BW HD and have been for a while;
(ii) They are doing it in the SC2 engine, which is apparently very extensible and you can do "almost anything" in it;
(iii) Regarding the bugs and glitches that make BW what it is (I asked about muta stacking/drone drilling/etc.), he said that all of this is game logic and can be replicated. (Whether it will be replicated, he doesn't know.)

So, I think it's going to happen eventually, but it may or may not be soon and it may or may not be an exact reproduction of BW in ways that would matter to a fan of the 2000--2013(?) pro scene.


But what is the point when there is already Starbow and other mods that basically did the very same thing?

could as well be a minor patch


Speaking of patch. The fuck did happen to patch 1.17?
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
November 08 2016 19:21 GMT
#59
lol djabanete is full of shit. BW in the SC2 engine? Even blizzard isn't that stupid. If they are going to do that, they might as well go for SC3. bw in sc2 engine would be like shitting on the sc2 dev team/scene. after their fiasco with kespa, they are going to turn tables and now fully fuck over the sc2 scene? No.

BWHD will come but it won't be in the sc2 engine and it won't change gameplay at all. it will just make it easier for people to play and as a bonus a good matchmaking system would be a god send. custom hotkeys would be nice as well and more cool sprites? there is so much they can do to make it better, and none of that has to do with touching the mechanics or gameplay of bw.
Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
November 08 2016 19:21 GMT
#60
On November 09 2016 03:22 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 03:12 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
however oddly enough a lot of people in korea are playing overwatch in pc bangs o_o

They should remake BW in Overwatch

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We at Blizzard are proud to announce BendoverWatch, or BW for short. We are taking legal action against any future brood war tournaments, we want to erase that game from the face of the earth. Any current BW players are free to switch to the new BW. From now on, BW will always mean BendoverWatch and it is illegal to mention brood war.


I just hope our playerbase won't be split anymore than it currently is. If you look at it that way, it might even be good if the remake is as different from bw as possible, because then there won't be any migration from us.
Tyrant.
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