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Arctichydra7
Profile Joined August 2016
8 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 22:08:17
November 07 2016 22:04 GMT
#1
As many will recall, there was a huge hype around the ideal of a remasters Brood War game getting announced at last weekend's Blizzcon event held in California. Additionally there was suggestions that other Blizzard titles where up for a remake too.

I am made sad by the passing of this years blizzcon event with out the aforementioned announcement. This resonates a deep feeling of longing for the ageing title. Brood War is strong still and some would say is out pacing SC2 in growth at a Pro level.

Brood War's success has spurn communities to create there own version "brood war HD". SC2 has seen Arcade mods such as SC2BW and Starbow. Both of which as seen years of development. All in a effort to recreate the micro and unit interactions found in Brood war's game engine.


Now, As we seek to sate our collective hunger for an updated Brood War, more people peek into the strange world of SC2 Arcade remakes of our beloved Brood War. There exist many options. For example SC2BW allows for almost all of Brood war's UI and unit AI to be experienced. Where as Starbow attempts to balance a Brood War retrofitted into SC2 like fetchers of unlimited unit selection and smart casting. Starbow seems to take this a step further. The Mod calls its self and expiation to brood war with each race seeing 1 or 2 new [niche] units.


Overall, Though I will keep my self occupied with SC2 mods and Brood War ladders, part of my still hopes Blizzard is quietly developing the New Brood War HD.
Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
November 07 2016 22:20 GMT
#2
Blizzard have essentially already announced that they will remake BW, but it will take a while.

On November 06 2016 15:13 Orite wrote:
From Blizzard.com:

Show nested quote +
Compelling stories. Intense multiplayer. Endless replayability. Qualities that made StarCraft, Warcraft III, and Diablo II the titans of their day. [...] We’re restoring them to glory [...]


Software engineer job offering at blizzard for classic games. Also one job offering each for Anti-Cheat, Tools and Server.

This was posted before and most likely also led to the blog articles; Blizzard basically already announced that they're remaking BW.

But since these job offerings aren't there for very long and still open, this really will take a while. Lets hope until next Blizzcon they will have something to show and talk about.
Tyrant.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 07 2016 22:42 GMT
#3
I fail to see the purpose of this thread tbh. Community has known about the SCII options but try as they might, it's not BW HD. Also, rumours are just that, rumors. Once blizzard or a reputable source state that BW HD is coming, then I'll believe it.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
November 07 2016 22:56 GMT
#4
On November 08 2016 07:42 BigFan wrote:
I fail to see the purpose of this thread tbh. Community has known about the SCII options but try as they might, it's not BW HD. Also, rumours are just that, rumors. Once blizzard or a reputable source state that BW HD is coming, then I'll believe it.

You don't believe in Blizzard's own words?

On November 08 2016 07:42 Blizzard wrote:
Compelling stories. Intense multiplayer. Endless replayability. Qualities that made StarCraft, Warcraft III, and Diablo II the titans of their day. [...] We’re restoring them to glory [...]
Tyrant.
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
November 07 2016 23:11 GMT
#5
The rumors of them coming in September and Blizzcon were unfortunately just rumors and flops. Probably a good chance we see them later though.
imp42
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
398 Posts
November 07 2016 23:34 GMT
#6
On November 08 2016 07:42 BigFan wrote:
I fail to see the purpose of this thread tbh. Community has known about the SCII options but try as they might, it's not BW HD. Also, rumours are just that, rumors. Once blizzard or a reputable source state that BW HD is coming, then I'll believe it.


I don't know if you would consider me a reputable source, but I am pretty sure BW HD is coming.
And it's not coming from Blizzard...
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 07 2016 23:41 GMT
#7
I know they straight-up went on the record at Blizzcon to say that they're NOT remaking Warcraft 1 and Warcraft 2, but hopefully Diablo 2, Brood War, and Warcraft 3 remasters aren't off the table just yet.
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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 23:49:37
November 07 2016 23:41 GMT
#8
I said it in the beginning and ill say it again as i think people shouldnt get their hopes up for some recent announcement or release and that is that its going to ATLEAST be another 2-3 years before we get any official announcement. They are working on 3 titles side by side and developing/modernizing the games is only one aspect to the revitilization of their older titles. It wouldnt suprise me if they are still in planning mode.
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 08 2016 00:07 GMT
#9
That is bullshit, if they need 2-3 years to do D2HD or BWHD they might as well make D4 or SC3.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
November 08 2016 00:10 GMT
#10
On November 08 2016 09:07 -Archangel- wrote:
That is bullshit, if they need 2-3 years to do D2HD or BWHD they might as well make D4 or SC3.


I agree with this so much.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
November 08 2016 00:48 GMT
#11
SC1 HD would undermine SC2, for that reason we won't see it in the foreseeable future.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50603 Posts
November 08 2016 01:31 GMT
#12
why do we have a new BW HD thread?

wait until something is actually announced.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Poly_Optimize
Profile Joined March 2016
Canada156 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 02:26:59
November 08 2016 02:13 GMT
#13
There was a Blizzard event during last weekend and I think it is totally normal to speak about highlights and also disappointments.. Many of us wanted to see something about their all time favorite game, but it did not happen. It still remains fun to chat about possible features of a remastered BW.

2 posts out of 10 said there should not be any posts about bw hd and they were made by TL Writers. Is it forbidden to pronounce the words Brood War HD?
On November 08 2016 07:42 BigFan wrote:
I fail to see the purpose of this thread tbh. Community has known about the SCII options but try as they might, it's not BW HD. Also, rumours are just that, rumors. Once blizzard or a reputable source state that BW HD is coming, then I'll believe it.

On November 08 2016 10:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why do we have a new BW HD thread?

wait until something is actually announced.

Btw, there is a new thread because the other ones are closed. For me it is totally normal to talk about BW HD. For years, Star Wars fans spent a lot of time to create and imagine stuffs for their favorite movies. It is normal for gamers to do the same with their favorite video game.
imp42
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
398 Posts
November 08 2016 02:57 GMT
#14
On November 08 2016 10:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why do we have a new BW HD thread?

wait until something is actually announced.


Ok. Let me try again: "I hereby announce BW HD!"

better?
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50603 Posts
November 08 2016 04:16 GMT
#15
On November 08 2016 11:57 imp42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 10:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why do we have a new BW HD thread?

wait until something is actually announced.


Ok. Let me try again: "I hereby announce BW HD!"

better?


fuck no.

we don't need another BW HD thread, most of the discussion was done to death, unless anything new is announced we'd be going in circle.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 04:29:44
November 08 2016 04:28 GMT
#16
Rumor turned out to be rumor, community disappointed. I still contend that little changes have big effects and even having a modern resolution in competitive play would change the game. We don't want the game to change.

On November 08 2016 08:41 eviltomahawk wrote:
I know they straight-up went on the record at Blizzcon to say that they're NOT remaking Warcraft 1 and Warcraft 2, but hopefully Diablo 2, Brood War, and Warcraft 3 remasters aren't off the table just yet.

Didn't they explicitly say at Blizzcon they're remaking Diablo 1 in the D3 engine?

That kinda puts doubt on D2 remakes.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
imp42
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
398 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 04:40:27
November 08 2016 04:39 GMT
#17
On November 08 2016 13:16 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 11:57 imp42 wrote:
On November 08 2016 10:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why do we have a new BW HD thread?

wait until something is actually announced.


Ok. Let me try again: "I hereby announce BW HD!"

better?


fuck no.

we don't need another BW HD thread, most of the discussion was done to death, unless anything new is announced we'd be going in circle.


Ok, I don't know if I should give up or try one last time, veeeeeeery explicitly:
Brood Wars has been nearly completely reverse-engineered. The game engine basically works (including original path-finding). The image you see at the following link is NOT from Blizzards Brood Wars. It's from a program written by a member of the BW AI Bot community: http://i.imgur.com/rdEcBYM.jpg

Since we have source code available, there are virtually no limitations.
- You can run it in linux
- You could potentially mod it
- ...
- You can provide HD sprites and given I find some talent in the community that's exactly what's going to happen

PS: Yes, the game play is 1:1 BW, including all bugs

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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 08 2016 05:27 GMT
#18
On November 08 2016 07:56 Jae Zedong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 07:42 BigFan wrote:
I fail to see the purpose of this thread tbh. Community has known about the SCII options but try as they might, it's not BW HD. Also, rumours are just that, rumors. Once blizzard or a reputable source state that BW HD is coming, then I'll believe it.

You don't believe in Blizzard's own words?

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 07:42 Blizzard wrote:
Compelling stories. Intense multiplayer. Endless replayability. Qualities that made StarCraft, Warcraft III, and Diablo II the titans of their day. [...] We’re restoring them to glory [...]

You can interpret those words however you like but they certainly don't mean that BW HD is coming.

On November 08 2016 11:13 Poly_Optimize wrote:
There was a Blizzard event during last weekend and I think it is totally normal to speak about highlights and also disappointments.. Many of us wanted to see something about their all time favorite game, but it did not happen. It still remains fun to chat about possible features of a remastered BW.

2 posts out of 10 said there should not be any posts about bw hd and they were made by TL Writers. Is it forbidden to pronounce the words Brood War HD?
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 07:42 BigFan wrote:
I fail to see the purpose of this thread tbh. Community has known about the SCII options but try as they might, it's not BW HD. Also, rumours are just that, rumors. Once blizzard or a reputable source state that BW HD is coming, then I'll believe it.

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 10:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why do we have a new BW HD thread?

wait until something is actually announced.

Btw, there is a new thread because the other ones are closed. For me it is totally normal to talk about BW HD. For years, Star Wars fans spent a lot of time to create and imagine stuffs for their favorite movies. It is normal for gamers to do the same with their favorite video game.

Other thread was closed because as BR stated, it was discussed to death. There's nothing more to be discussed at this point. Once we have some actual proof that BW HD is in the works (aka reputable source or Blizzard themselves), then it makes sense to keep it going.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50603 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 05:35:50
November 08 2016 05:34 GMT
#19
Blizzard is also really jumpy about people working with their art assets.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
imp42
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
398 Posts
November 08 2016 05:35 GMT
#20
On November 08 2016 14:27 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 07:56 Jae Zedong wrote:
On November 08 2016 07:42 BigFan wrote:
I fail to see the purpose of this thread tbh. Community has known about the SCII options but try as they might, it's not BW HD. Also, rumours are just that, rumors. Once blizzard or a reputable source state that BW HD is coming, then I'll believe it.

You don't believe in Blizzard's own words?

On November 08 2016 07:42 Blizzard wrote:
Compelling stories. Intense multiplayer. Endless replayability. Qualities that made StarCraft, Warcraft III, and Diablo II the titans of their day. [...] We’re restoring them to glory [...]

You can interpret those words however you like but they certainly don't mean that BW HD is coming.

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2016 11:13 Poly_Optimize wrote:
There was a Blizzard event during last weekend and I think it is totally normal to speak about highlights and also disappointments.. Many of us wanted to see something about their all time favorite game, but it did not happen. It still remains fun to chat about possible features of a remastered BW.

2 posts out of 10 said there should not be any posts about bw hd and they were made by TL Writers. Is it forbidden to pronounce the words Brood War HD?
On November 08 2016 07:42 BigFan wrote:
I fail to see the purpose of this thread tbh. Community has known about the SCII options but try as they might, it's not BW HD. Also, rumours are just that, rumors. Once blizzard or a reputable source state that BW HD is coming, then I'll believe it.

On November 08 2016 10:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why do we have a new BW HD thread?

wait until something is actually announced.

Btw, there is a new thread because the other ones are closed. For me it is totally normal to talk about BW HD. For years, Star Wars fans spent a lot of time to create and imagine stuffs for their favorite movies. It is normal for gamers to do the same with their favorite video game.

Other thread was closed because as BR stated, it was discussed to death. There's nothing more to be discussed at this point. Once we have some actual proof that BW HD is in the works (aka reputable source or Blizzard themselves), then it makes sense to keep it going.


Ok, I surrender.
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