EPTCan we expect full BroodWar revival?
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Moridin
Bulgaria167 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51037 Posts
As far as new blood goes I'm sure someone more qualified and knows the fish ladder scene better than I do could explain the situation. | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2106 Posts
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On September 30 2016 17:04 ZiggyPG wrote: BW is now the 4th most popular game in PCBangs. Is that any indication that people might be shifting their attention back to SC1? The question is not what rank it is. It is how % it shares. LOL alone had about 43% and then comes other games and BW had like 3%. It is more logical to create an overwatch team house than BW. I do hope to see KT / SKT... etc all shift back to BW, but lets be realistic. This is not a reverse of 2012 switch. This one is a disband not game change while have players to practice the "new" game. | ||
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Ziggy
South Korea2106 Posts
I can't find the %, can't speak Korean well enough yet :S | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On September 30 2016 17:18 ZiggyPG wrote: The switch to SC2 was "mandatory", to a certain extent. Here the circumstances would be different, perhaps pushed by popular demand. I can't find the %, can't speak Korean well enough yet :S Popular demand: Back to square one. Which has more popular demand? The Rank 1 game on PC Bangs OW? Or BW? | ||
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abuse
Latvia1945 Posts
SC2 was a fatal blow to BW. You don't come back from fatal blows. That's why they're fatal. BW is getting patched up to lessen the pain though, and we're getting more and more bandaids with every month, so yay. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6978 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2042 Posts
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iu1nguoi0iuminh
Vietnam44 Posts
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Linnerstedt
Switzerland22 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2106 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
Brood war is a fun game  | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1716 Posts
But the advantage is that brood war, just like quake, games like that aren't being made anymore, they have no replacement. Which is the fate that awaits sc2, LoL and overwatch. | ||
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iloveav
Poland1482 Posts
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FlArE777
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Orite
Germany143 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
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EndingLife
United States1602 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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On September 30 2016 17:04 ZiggyPG wrote: BW is now the 4th most popular game in PCBangs. Is that any indication that people might be shifting their attention back to SC1? http://gametrics.com/ says it is 6th with a 3% share. I am sure it could be more if BW HD was released, no idea how much though. The truth is that OW and LoL dominate korea atm, so if anything we might see OW getting hugely popular as an esports (which i still don't see because it's boring as fuck to watch, but hey who knows) | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
Is this new or old? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51037 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
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Lazix
Australia378 Posts
In any case, if this is Broodwar's last hurrah in the spotlight, it was quite a run wasn't it? | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 30 2016 22:35 amazingxkcd wrote: if you can breed new talent to compete on par with the current afreeca pros, then yes its a possibility I asked about this a lot, but can anybody with enough knowledge talk a bit about the fish server? How many players/accounts play on it total? How many are online at peak times, etc. IIRC the last ASL had like 500 people trying to qualify for it, that's pretty huge imo. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On September 30 2016 23:11 The_Red_Viper wrote: I asked about this a lot, but can anybody with enough knowledge talk a bit about the fish server? How many players/accounts play on it total? How many are online at peak times, etc. IIRC the last ASL had like 500 people trying to qualify for it, that's pretty huge imo. but how many of those players are actually getting trained by pros or by coaches? There's no team league in which rookies and amateurs can foster themselves in. Thats the main issue that is a roadblock for BW resurgence | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On September 30 2016 16:57 BLinD-RawR wrote: its not as bad today as it was a couple of years ago I'll tell you that, I mean we have proper offline tournaments and high profile players, but even then the way it is now a lot of stars have to align for a true revival to happen. Wasn't ASL the only big offline tournement this year? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51037 Posts
On September 30 2016 23:51 sabas123 wrote: Wasn't ASL the only big offline tournement this year? we have one more season in December. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 30 2016 23:32 amazingxkcd wrote: but how many of those players are actually getting trained by pros or by coaches? There's no team league in which rookies and amateurs can foster themselves in. Thats the main issue that is a roadblock for BW resurgence Well yes sure i get that. But having 500 people who are motivated to try to qualify is pretty nice. If they see that there is actually something to train for that might be good enough atm. Fish server could be good enough to get somewhat competitive? Maybe? At least if some ex pros are willing to "coach" them a bit or play mass games, etc | ||
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nbaker
United States1341 Posts
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HerbMon
United States469 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19359 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2342 Posts
On September 30 2016 17:24 abuse wrote: BW is getting patched up to lessen the pain though LESSEN THE PAIN!!!??? You want trigger my wrath with saying that?  I mean, its not like many old fans would even want patch. How its supposed to "lessen the pain"? | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2356 Posts
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lestye
United States4208 Posts
On September 30 2016 17:04 ZiggyPG wrote: BW is now the 4th most popular game in PCBangs. Is that any indication that people might be shifting their attention back to SC1? I don't think that's anythingnew. (dates chosen somewhat random) 2015: https://web.archive.org/web/20150314202351/http://gametrics.com/ 2014: https://web.archive.org/web/20140208050458/http://www.gametrics.com/ 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/20130531083639/http://gametrics.com/ 2012: https://web.archive.org/web/20120411112140/http://www.gametrics.com/ 2011: https://web.archive.org/web/20110303230948/http://www.gametrics.com/ 2010: https://web.archive.org/web/20100306025059/http://gametrics.com/ 2009: https://web.archive.org/web/20090216222121/http://gametrics.com/ 2008: https://web.archive.org/web/20080423045537/http://www.gametrics.com/ 2007: https://web.archive.org/web/20070401080054/http://www.gametrics.com/ From what I could gather Brood War has been top 5, hovering anywhere been 3-8% since 2007. I think a full resurgence is impossible but I think we can have a good scene. As much as we point to stream numbers and pc bang numbers, ultimately there's not really enough tournament support. Hopefully if HD Starcraft happens, Blizzard will start supporting more events, or at the very least, the hype will get these organizers will open up their wallets. | ||
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1078 Posts
Quite difficult imo but we'll see... | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2342 Posts
On October 01 2016 19:17 HaFnium wrote: However in order for scbw to survive in the long run there should be more offline tournaments/progaming team so that the younger generation would have a way of getting into BW.. Without true PL its all just a wishfull thinking. With amatour tournaments only we can expect progresive fall of BW into obscurity - becouse of no new blood, becouse of decreasing skill, becouse of old PGs leaving gaming. | ||
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Nazara
United Kingdom235 Posts
Football isn't only popular because its a good game. I hate playing football myself, I was never any good and didn't want to improve. Football is popular because it's everywhere - you learn it at primary and high school, involuntarily. Because its a sport you grew up with, you go on and watch it in the pub, when you are out with your mates, or with your dad or son. A lot of the popularity has to be attributed to the game, of course, but a lot of it has to do with football just "being there". The same way in US they have their football/rugby, and EU has soccer/football. Different sports being popular, for no apparent reasons. I say lets wait another 5-15 years, for our kids to grow up a bit more, and introduce them to BW. Get them to play the game with their friends. Explain the game to them, coach them, watch a high level game from your favourite player in his prime. Make BW immortal but branding it not an eSport, but a Sport, and pass it to new generation. | ||
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iu1nguoi0iuminh
Vietnam44 Posts
On October 01 2016 20:37 Nazara wrote: To me, BW is not just a game, it's a sport. Just like football - I don't have to play it to enjoy watching it. I can sit on my couch, drinking Carling, watching the game, and I can do that with BW - more then that, I can go to YT or watch a stream any time I like. Football isn't only popular because its a good game. I hate playing football myself, I was never any good and didn't want to improve. Football is popular because it's everywhere - you learn it at primary and high school, involuntarily. Because its a sport you grew up with, you go on and watch it in the pub, when you are out with your mates, or with your dad or son. A lot of the popularity has to be attributed to the game, of course, but a lot of it has to do with football just "being there". The same way in US they have their football/rugby, and EU has soccer/football. Different sports being popular, for no apparent reasons. I say lets wait another 5-15 years, for our kids to grow up a bit more, and introduce them to BW. Get them to play the game with their friends. Explain the game to them, coach them, watch a high level game from your favourite player in his prime. Make BW immortal but branding it not an eSport, but a Sport, and pass it to new generation. You are good guy and good daddy. I like you, I am also enjoy this game by watching streams StarCraft BW. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
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Adelull
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KameZerg
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