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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 03 2016 22:14 GMT
#461
On August 04 2016 01:56 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2016 01:49 B-royal wrote:
It shouldn't be one or the other. Ideally they'd incorporate both. I love watching both types of play.


Only if its not a one sided stomp fest in favor of terran

To be honest, to many scrub terrans can beat the best zergs with this style

care to give examples? -_-
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 22:59:47
August 03 2016 22:59 GMT
#462
All the terrans who are "TvZ specialist" are actually just bad at anything else, including TvZ. It just doesn't show in the winrate.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Forcewater
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
August 03 2016 23:07 GMT
#463
List of people who have lost a zvt recently:

duke91
"Reddit on the other hand has always just been a box full of retarded blind puppies licking and sniffing everything they come in contact with and leaving it moist and oily" - Gamegene
MaTaAeRuKaNa
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 23:43:43
August 03 2016 23:43 GMT
#464
On August 03 2016 22:46 duke91 wrote:
http://live.afreecatv.com:8079/app/index.cgi?szType=read_ucc_bbs&szBjId=byflash&nStationNo=16373450&nBbsNo=18209797&nTitleNo=39169389&szSkin=

at which minute is Jiko appearing?

edit: nvm, jiko asks flash for 1v1 at 3:45

I think JD figured out how to ZvT vs mech.... play as always but be JD

edit2: it's extremely impressive how JD executes his attacks. Until Flash gg's it was like 3 minutes of never ending swarm sauron zerg. Before that, he dropped some ling defiler lurker on flash's supply depot to erupt some chaos.


I don't understand korean but at the beginning of game 1, it looks like Flash gets a donation or something from username jaedong1097 and Flash starts laughing lol
Luddite wrote: Tentacle monster: Basically a sunken colony with legs, and multiple tentacles to attack with. It gets bonus damage vs. large units and Japanese school girls.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
August 04 2016 01:13 GMT
#465
On August 04 2016 08:07 Forcewater wrote:
List of people who have lost a zvt recently:

duke91


:/

Not saying it's imbalanced. Just saying that when I win a ZvT, I feel it's more deserved than opponent winning a TvZ, since ZvT is less forgiving
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
August 04 2016 02:26 GMT
#466
On August 04 2016 07:14 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2016 01:56 duke91 wrote:
On August 04 2016 01:49 B-royal wrote:
It shouldn't be one or the other. Ideally they'd incorporate both. I love watching both types of play.


Only if its not a one sided stomp fest in favor of terran

To be honest, to many scrub terrans can beat the best zergs with this style

care to give examples? -_-


Its not imba but these mediocre terrans have a somewhat good win rate vs ZERO, EFFORT (literally top3~4 zerg at peak skill bw) on FS.


FS is the problem we are talking about here where it is insane to just sit on your butt and defend everything easily until ur +2 kicks in and destroy zerg's 5th/6th.
Life is just life
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
August 04 2016 02:43 GMT
#467
Its hard to keep up more than 55% win rate in tvz. Everyone has a god like muta micro and knows that they need many defilers and drop upgrades. People start dropping after 15 min mark. Terran has to have 4 base fully running within 15 min and start building turrets.

Not only that. Everyone makes like 7 hatcheries at 3rd base and spam lings. Also they have insane amount of drones like terran. Therefore they can macro as good as terrans late mech switch.

Since zerg wasted all the resources for zerglings, gas will be used for ultra queen switch with air carapace.

Please take a look at my Zerg vs Terran (cash games; $20/game) in my past broadcast video.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
August 04 2016 03:36 GMT
#468
On August 04 2016 11:43 LaStScan wrote:
Its hard to keep up more than 55% win rate in tvz. Everyone has a god like muta micro and knows that they need many defilers and drop upgrades. People start dropping after 15 min mark. Terran has to have 4 base fully running within 15 min and start building turrets.

Not only that. Everyone makes like 7 hatcheries at 3rd base and spam lings. Also they have insane amount of drones like terran. Therefore they can macro as good as terrans late mech switch.

Since zerg wasted all the resources for zerglings, gas will be used for ultra queen switch with air carapace.

Please take a look at my Zerg vs Terran (cash games; $20/game) in my past broadcast video.


how many zergs are there at your level C/b
Life is just life
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
August 04 2016 03:48 GMT
#469
I understand that terran is favored on FS vs zerg, but why does Flash have better win rate on CB than FS in all match ups?
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-04 04:01:29
August 04 2016 04:01 GMT
#470
On August 04 2016 12:48 classicyellow83 wrote:
I understand that terran is favored on FS vs zerg, but why does Flash have better win rate on CB than FS in all match ups?

Both maps are stupid. This has been the first time in history where terran can easily mantain the same base count as zerg and always be 1 base above protoss.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
August 04 2016 04:56 GMT
#471
On August 04 2016 13:01 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2016 12:48 classicyellow83 wrote:
I understand that terran is favored on FS vs zerg, but why does Flash have better win rate on CB than FS in all match ups?

Both maps are stupid. This has been the first time in history where terran can easily mantain the same base count as zerg and always be 1 base above protoss.


1 base above protoss? Seriously?
MarineCA1
Profile Joined June 2015
93 Posts
August 04 2016 05:06 GMT
#472
Who Shinee btw ?? Is he an amateur ??
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
August 04 2016 05:19 GMT
#473
On August 04 2016 14:06 MarineCA1 wrote:
Who Shinee btw ?? Is he an amateur ??

He was a semi-pro. He's like 7 feet tall.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
August 04 2016 06:16 GMT
#474
On August 04 2016 12:48 classicyellow83 wrote:
I understand that terran is favored on FS vs zerg, but why does Flash have better win rate on CB than FS in all match ups?


doesn't he play way more on circuit breaker and started doing so when his form was going god mode starting june
Life is just life
MaTaAeRuKaNa
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States95 Posts
August 04 2016 06:59 GMT
#475
Check out these videos on Flash's channel





I put the title on google translate and it says "He ... Lee Jae-dong ? Lee, Young - Ho VS Jiko leather highlight # 1 Starcraft matches Lee, Young - Ho ;"

Looks like Flash is trolling us, because of course he would know if it was Jaedong
Luddite wrote: Tentacle monster: Basically a sunken colony with legs, and multiple tentacles to attack with. It gets bonus damage vs. large units and Japanese school girls.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
August 04 2016 07:22 GMT
#476
On August 04 2016 01:11 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
afterwards Flash played vs Zero who utilized jaedong's style of attacks which made him win a game rather convincingly. Jiko's playstyle already seemingly very fruitful to zergs

Can help me fill in the timestamp of this game ? Each korhal vod is like 2hrs long so it's pretty confusing.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
August 04 2016 07:30 GMT
#477
On August 04 2016 12:36 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2016 11:43 LaStScan wrote:
Its hard to keep up more than 55% win rate in tvz. Everyone has a god like muta micro and knows that they need many defilers and drop upgrades. People start dropping after 15 min mark. Terran has to have 4 base fully running within 15 min and start building turrets.

Not only that. Everyone makes like 7 hatcheries at 3rd base and spam lings. Also they have insane amount of drones like terran. Therefore they can macro as good as terrans late mech switch.

Since zerg wasted all the resources for zerglings, gas will be used for ultra queen switch with air carapace.

Please take a look at my Zerg vs Terran (cash games; $20/game) in my past broadcast video.


how many zergs are there at your level C/b


More than terran. Theres a lot of zerg.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-04 09:24:49
August 04 2016 09:24 GMT
#478
Jiko is so goddamn aggressive. His muta control + ling engagements are brilliant. And his defiler control: he never ever lets to snipe them. This is JD 1000%.
sunbeams are never made like me...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51101 Posts
August 04 2016 10:49 GMT
#479
what if its killer playing during his army downtime?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11296 Posts
August 04 2016 11:15 GMT
#480
On August 04 2016 19:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
what if its killer playing during his army downtime?

Jiko = Jaedong Is Killer :O

+ Show Spoiler +
What if it's actually OzSucksBallsWithoutMe?
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
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