On August 03 2016 22:46 duke91 wrote:
http://live.afreecatv.com:8079/app/index.cgi?szType=read_ucc_bbs&szBjId=byflash&nStationNo=16373450&nBbsNo=18209797&nTitleNo=39169389&szSkin=

at which minute is Jiko appearing?

edit: nvm, jiko asks flash for 1v1 at 3:45

I think JD figured out how to ZvT vs mech.... play as always but be JD

edit2: it's extremely impressive how JD executes his attacks. Until Flash gg's it was like 3 minutes of never ending swarm sauron zerg. Before that, he dropped some ling defiler lurker on flash's supply depot to erupt some chaos.

I don't understand korean but at the beginning of game 1, it looks like Flash gets a donation or something from username jaedong1097 and Flash starts laughing lol

duke91

Germany1458 Posts

August 04 2016 01:13 GMT

#465

On August 04 2016 08:07 Forcewater wrote:
List of people who have lost a zvt recently:

duke91

:/

Not saying it's imbalanced. Just saying that when I win a ZvT, I feel it's more deserved than opponent winning a TvZ, since ZvT is less forgiving

Shinokuki

United States923 Posts

August 04 2016 02:26 GMT

#466

On August 04 2016 07:14 BigFan wrote:

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care to give examples? -_-

Its not imba but these mediocre terrans have a somewhat good win rate vs ZERO, EFFORT (literally top3~4 zerg at peak skill bw) on FS.

FS is the problem we are talking about here where it is insane to just sit on your butt and defend everything easily until ur +2 kicks in and destroy zerg's 5th/6th.

LaStScan

Korea (South)1289 Posts

August 04 2016 02:43 GMT

#467

Its hard to keep up more than 55% win rate in tvz. Everyone has a god like muta micro and knows that they need many defilers and drop upgrades. People start dropping after 15 min mark. Terran has to have 4 base fully running within 15 min and start building turrets.

Not only that. Everyone makes like 7 hatcheries at 3rd base and spam lings. Also they have insane amount of drones like terran. Therefore they can macro as good as terrans late mech switch.

Since zerg wasted all the resources for zerglings, gas will be used for ultra queen switch with air carapace.

Please take a look at my Zerg vs Terran (cash games; $20/game) in my past broadcast video.

Shinokuki

United States923 Posts

August 04 2016 03:36 GMT

#468

On August 04 2016 11:43 LaStScan wrote:
Its hard to keep up more than 55% win rate in tvz. Everyone has a god like muta micro and knows that they need many defilers and drop upgrades. People start dropping after 15 min mark. Terran has to have 4 base fully running within 15 min and start building turrets.

Not only that. Everyone makes like 7 hatcheries at 3rd base and spam lings. Also they have insane amount of drones like terran. Therefore they can macro as good as terrans late mech switch.

Since zerg wasted all the resources for zerglings, gas will be used for ultra queen switch with air carapace.

Please take a look at my Zerg vs Terran (cash games; $20/game) in my past broadcast video.

how many zergs are there at your level C/b

classicyellow83

United States2393 Posts

August 04 2016 03:48 GMT

#469

I understand that terran is favored on FS vs zerg, but why does Flash have better win rate on CB than FS in all match ups?

r33k

Italy3402 Posts

August 04 2016 04:01 GMT

#470

On August 04 2016 12:48 classicyellow83 wrote:
I understand that terran is favored on FS vs zerg, but why does Flash have better win rate on CB than FS in all match ups?

Both maps are stupid. This has been the first time in history where terran can easily mantain the same base count as zerg and always be 1 base above protoss.

Wrath

3174 Posts

August 04 2016 04:56 GMT

#471

On August 04 2016 13:01 r33k wrote:

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Both maps are stupid. This has been the first time in history where terran can easily mantain the same base count as zerg and always be 1 base above protoss.

1 base above protoss? Seriously?

MarineCA1

93 Posts

August 04 2016 05:06 GMT

#472

Who Shinee btw ?? Is he an amateur ??

classicyellow83

United States2393 Posts

August 04 2016 05:19 GMT

#473

On August 04 2016 14:06 MarineCA1 wrote:
Who Shinee btw ?? Is he an amateur ??

He was a semi-pro. He's like 7 feet tall.

Shinokuki

United States923 Posts

August 04 2016 06:16 GMT

#474

On August 04 2016 12:48 classicyellow83 wrote:
I understand that terran is favored on FS vs zerg, but why does Flash have better win rate on CB than FS in all match ups?

doesn't he play way more on circuit breaker and started doing so when his form was going god mode starting june

MaTaAeRuKaNa

United States95 Posts

August 04 2016 06:59 GMT

#475

Check out these videos on Flash's channel

I put the title on google translate and it says "He ... Lee Jae-dong ? Lee, Young - Ho VS Jiko leather highlight # 1 Starcraft matches Lee, Young - Ho ;"

Looks like Flash is trolling us, because of course he would know if it was Jaedong

vndestiny

Singapore3457 Posts

August 04 2016 07:22 GMT

#476

On August 04 2016 01:11 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
afterwards Flash played vs Zero who utilized jaedong's style of attacks which made him win a game rather convincingly. Jiko's playstyle already seemingly very fruitful to zergs

Can help me fill in the timestamp of this game ? Each korhal vod is like 2hrs long so it's pretty confusing.

LaStScan

Korea (South)1289 Posts

August 04 2016 07:30 GMT

#477

On August 04 2016 12:36 Shinokuki wrote:

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how many zergs are there at your level C/b

More than terran. Theres a lot of zerg.

outscar

2832 Posts

August 04 2016 09:24 GMT

#478

Jiko is so goddamn aggressive. His muta control + ling engagements are brilliant. And his defiler control: he never ever lets to snipe them. This is JD 1000%.