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Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 07:35:37
May 14 2016 07:35 GMT
#261
are you fucking kidding me........... i cant take this anymore.........im so angry.....
phrenzy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom478 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 07:53:23
May 14 2016 07:52 GMT
#262
On May 14 2016 07:32 B-royal wrote:
Jealous puts forth a nice line of reasoning, but what's stopping someone from using a completely different keyboard where all the necessary keys are put together very elegantly?

I'm on the side of not allowing hotkey changes but it's just something I've thought about.


Yea, plus i have a razer keyboard that allows complete key rebinding will that not be allowed?

Also, i would think its pretty easy to tell if someone was left handed no? I know sc2 gears you can analyze the keys used in a replay (its normally used to identify barcode players). For a left handed person it would be super easy to tell.

I hope no one thinks i was advocating the use of macros. Its was purely an accessibility question.

I would just like to know if it is prohibited, if so no worries.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9544 Posts
May 14 2016 08:16 GMT
#263
On May 14 2016 16:11 Bakuryu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 10:33 Falling wrote:
Incidentally, this server was the reason the TLS championships were so delayed. We really wanted to launch this server at the same time as running the TLS Championship, incentivizing people to start using the new server. Unfortunately, our Blizzard style soon TM stretched out too long, and the TLS had to run with little explanation for why it was delayed.


Wait is this actually true? Can somebody confirm this?

Yes, but it wasn't the only reason. Lack of sponsors until Rus_Brain showed up was another major one.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
May 14 2016 08:31 GMT
#264
ah ok, thx 2pac
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
May 14 2016 09:06 GMT
#265
This looks interesting as hell. Good luck with the project! I hope it succeeds.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
May 14 2016 09:08 GMT
#266
well, my weekend got that much better.
can't wait, good luck!
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
May 14 2016 09:15 GMT
#267
Holy shit.

I guess my excuses for not learning BW just ran out, huh...
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
May 14 2016 10:41 GMT
#268
On May 14 2016 10:33 Falling wrote:
Incidentally, this server was the reason the TLS championships were so delayed. We really wanted to launch this server at the same time as running the TLS Championship, incentivizing people to start using the new server. Unfortunately, our Blizzard style soon TM stretched out too long, and the TLS had to run with little explanation for why it was delayed.

Thats even better!
This way we can get another tournament with the new Server.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9544 Posts
May 14 2016 11:05 GMT
#269
On May 14 2016 19:41 RoomOfMush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 10:33 Falling wrote:
Incidentally, this server was the reason the TLS championships were so delayed. We really wanted to launch this server at the same time as running the TLS Championship, incentivizing people to start using the new server. Unfortunately, our Blizzard style soon TM stretched out too long, and the TLS had to run with little explanation for why it was delayed.

Thats even better!
This way we can get another tournament with the new Server.

That's the plan
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
May 14 2016 11:28 GMT
#270
After thinking about it some more, I really hope the Win10 compatibility is a big focus for the beta, since MS is pushing their deadline for the free upgrade and this way no one would feel shredded by the decision!



Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
May 14 2016 11:38 GMT
#271
On May 14 2016 20:28 DarkNetHunter wrote:
After thinking about it some more, I really hope the Win10 compatibility is a big focus for the beta, since MS is pushing their deadline for the free upgrade and this way no one would feel shredded by the decision!

Didn't ms also made a statement they wanted to create something that was backwards compatible with pre windows8 stuff?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
lolcookie
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia17 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 11:48:42
May 14 2016 11:44 GMT
#272
Looks and sounds awesome, some thoughts:

Any chance for OSX compatibility? This would be really convenient for a lot of users.

BW's playability is limited for me as I do not live in Europe/NA or Korea. Any chance the modifications you have made might improve performance?

Allowing hotkeys to be changed will improve BW's accessibility if you have simple 1-to-1 remapping. There is nothing stoping someone having a gaming keyboard and getting the same functionality. Macros should be illegal and thankfully they are easy to spot.

The website is cool but I feel needs more focus on the game rather than some icons and a drawer on the right. When I first saw the UI I had no idea how to even start a game and the chat taking up 90% of the space seems a little wasteful.

Also there is a bug with autofill on chrome, here is a screenshot:[image loading]

Thanks guys, look forward to seeing the source code

EDIT: fix image
Airwaffle
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden50 Posts
May 14 2016 11:46 GMT
#273
Auto matchmaking is what will make me start to play BW again!
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
May 14 2016 11:48 GMT
#274
On May 14 2016 20:05 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 19:41 RoomOfMush wrote:
On May 14 2016 10:33 Falling wrote:
Incidentally, this server was the reason the TLS championships were so delayed. We really wanted to launch this server at the same time as running the TLS Championship, incentivizing people to start using the new server. Unfortunately, our Blizzard style soon TM stretched out too long, and the TLS had to run with little explanation for why it was delayed.

Thats even better!
This way we can get another tournament with the new Server.

That's the plan


Can we login with our registered accounts even if we did not receive closed beta invitation? Also is it me or is there no password retrieval method yet?
kka34629095
Profile Joined November 2015
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 12:52:01
May 14 2016 12:05 GMT
#275
On May 13 2016 15:24 tec27 wrote:
Will try and answer some questions. Lots of posts, so sorry if I missed yours

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 09:36 9heart wrote:
isnt playing at resolutions other than 640x480 considered an unfair advantage/hacks and generally frowned upon? i know for a fact its not allowed in fishladder or iccup tournaments

Our windowed mode does scaling, it doesn't change how much of the map is visible. It's akin to W-Mode's 2x mode, but unlike that, we can scale to any resolution and do it fully GPU-accelerated (which both makes it much more performant *and* allows for doing a higher quality scale).


Hi, you should get into contact with "madshi" about his no-ringing Lanczos implementation, in my experience it works wonders without overly smooth or anything. Just before you rescale to higher resolution with upscaler, you should also do the motion interpolation, cause modern LCD-s rarely support or 72hz, and even if you can set it to 72hz there's that tiresome frame repeat stuff.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145358
Prob. he can help with motion interpolation , also this could be somewhat of a challange since you can have over/under stuff seperated, for example interpolated unit movements won't mess up the grass texture.

Again it should be 24*5 / 2 for normal LCD/ projector or 24*5 for 120hz.

Besides I tested it already and madshi's no-ring Lanczos rescaler is AWESOME for BW (the best I found to watch replays) , actualy it looks like CRT.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9544 Posts
May 14 2016 12:39 GMT
#276
On May 14 2016 20:44 lolcookie wrote:
Any chance for OSX compatibility? This would be really convenient for a lot of users.

We didn't do any testing yet on this front, but we feel it should work with the windows emulators at least, like Wine on Linux. But definitely need to spend a bit more time testing it and figure out what are our options.

BW's playability is limited for me as I do not live in Europe/NA or Korea. Any chance the modifications you have made might improve performance?

Not sure what you mean by performance exactly, but if you mean that you might be getting lagg by playing people from Europe/NA, we do plan to have your region factored in when doing the matchmaking, so there's a greater chance you'll be playing against players that are close to you, which should help with reducing the lagg/latency.

The website is cool but I feel needs more focus on the game rather than some icons and a drawer on the right. When I first saw the UI I had no idea how to even start a game and the chat taking up 90% of the space seems a little wasteful.

Chat taking 90% of the space is by design and something that we're certain is important to make them relevant and actually useful. All the newer games that make chat more of an afterthought in their design renders it completely underused and underdeveloped in most cases. We want to make chat a center part of our design and develop all of the features people would need/want for it. Also, this goes more in line with how the BW was played over the past 18 years on battle.net, where the chat was a very important part in fostering different communities all around the world.

Also, the good thing about the matchmaking is that you really don't need that much space that focuses on the game itself. You have a button that says "Find Match" that you need to click and you're good to go

On May 14 2016 20:44 lolcookie wrote:
Also there is a bug with autofill on chrome, here is a screenshot:[image loading]

Yeah, we already have an issue opened for this on the github, just didn't get around to fixing it yet :p
Will fix it as soon as possible now that you brought our attention back to it!

On May 14 2016 20:48 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 20:05 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On May 14 2016 19:41 RoomOfMush wrote:
On May 14 2016 10:33 Falling wrote:
Incidentally, this server was the reason the TLS championships were so delayed. We really wanted to launch this server at the same time as running the TLS Championship, incentivizing people to start using the new server. Unfortunately, our Blizzard style soon TM stretched out too long, and the TLS had to run with little explanation for why it was delayed.

Thats even better!
This way we can get another tournament with the new Server.

That's the plan


Can we login with our registered accounts even if we did not receive closed beta invitation? Also is it me or is there no password retrieval method yet?

You can't login or create an account until you receive a closed beta invitation. That is the whole point of a closed beta
And you're right, there's no password retrieval method yet, but there will be before go into the open beta.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 12:45:36
May 14 2016 12:44 GMT
#277
On May 14 2016 21:39 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Chat taking 90% of the space is by design and something that we're certain is important to make them relevant and actually useful. All the newer games that make chat more of an afterthought in their design renders it completely underused and underdeveloped in most cases. We want to make chat a center part of our design and develop all of the features people would need/want for it. Also, this goes more in line with how the BW was played over the past 18 years on battle.net, where the chat was a very important part in fostering different communities all around the world.

duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
May 14 2016 12:54 GMT
#278
On May 14 2016 20:44 lolcookie wrote:
Looks and sounds awesome, some thoughts:

Any chance for OSX compatibility? This would be really convenient for a lot of users.

BW's playability is limited for me as I do not live in Europe/NA or Korea. Any chance the modifications you have made might improve performance?

Allowing hotkeys to be changed will improve BW's accessibility if you have simple 1-to-1 remapping. There is nothing stoping someone having a gaming keyboard and getting the same functionality. Macros should be illegal and thankfully they are easy to spot.

The website is cool but I feel needs more focus on the game rather than some icons and a drawer on the right. When I first saw the UI I had no idea how to even start a game and the chat taking up 90% of the space seems a little wasteful.

Also there is a bug with autofill on chrome, here is a screenshot:[image loading]

Thanks guys, look forward to seeing the source code

EDIT: fix image


I think you should have the option to have matchmaking against opponents who approve rebinding, as well as not.
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-14 13:09:35
May 14 2016 13:06 GMT
#279
On May 14 2016 21:54 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 20:44 lolcookie wrote:
Looks and sounds awesome, some thoughts:

Any chance for OSX compatibility? This would be really convenient for a lot of users.

BW's playability is limited for me as I do not live in Europe/NA or Korea. Any chance the modifications you have made might improve performance?

Allowing hotkeys to be changed will improve BW's accessibility if you have simple 1-to-1 remapping. There is nothing stoping someone having a gaming keyboard and getting the same functionality. Macros should be illegal and thankfully they are easy to spot.

The website is cool but I feel needs more focus on the game rather than some icons and a drawer on the right. When I first saw the UI I had no idea how to even start a game and the chat taking up 90% of the space seems a little wasteful.

Also there is a bug with autofill on chrome, here is a screenshot:[image loading]

Thanks guys, look forward to seeing the source code

EDIT: fix image


I think you should have the option to have matchmaking against opponents who approve rebinding, as well as not.

And that can also go to different resolution users. I wonder will we have ladder on all resolutions and the more important - will possible tournaments should be allowed in different resolutions than the original? I think not.
Luv ya BroodWar!
King_of_Blades
Profile Joined May 2016
1 Post
May 14 2016 13:12 GMT
#280
Awesome news! Just a quick question though, I can see that you're advertising a lot of new window-mode options, however, since launchers like mc64 already offer wide range of fullscreen resolutions, why not implement regular HD fullscreen? Atm, they are considered "hacks" since you can have better overview, however, if you implement them as a norm, I believe that would work perfect. Window-mode is part of that era you're trying to replace and tbh, it should just die already :>
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